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Apple Releases Mac OS X 10.1.3

nbvb submitted what I'm pleased to say is our first apple.slashdot.org story. We'll be posting more news for our sizable Apple population there in the future. Anyway, He says "Apple today released Mac OS X 10.1.3. Be sure to click your "Software Update" and "Install" buttons! (Hey, if we can get an announcement every time a new point rev of a development kernel hits the FTP sites, can't we hear about Mac OS X?)" As usual, user reports of the new release have been both positive and negative.

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  1. DVD player by Jeffrey+Baker · · Score: 5, Informative

    The new DVD player can show movies on the external monitor attached to my PowerBook G4. That was the only remaining regression OS X had versus OS 9 on my machine. I'm a happy sometimes-OSX user now :)

  2. Re:Oooh....pretty theme! by jamie · · Score: 5, Informative
    "That said, i'm not sure why apple.slashdot.org exists. Unless bsd.slash...

    http://bsd.slashdot.org

  3. Re:Not really by red-tail-hawk · · Score: 2, Informative

    hmm... Finally OS X achieves what a portion of the linux community was dreaming for, a stable, configurable unix-based OS with a user-friendly GUI. OS X will make my job a lot easier, users get access to MS Office and I get NIS, vi, ipfw, etc.

  4. OSX finder issues by linuxpng · · Score: 4, Informative

    Anyone know if, by chance, they have fixed the annoying finder issue where folder views are not kept?

    This is an issue with me that's actually addressed in the KB. They state it will be fixed in a future OS revision. Anyone else think that's kind of lame?

    1. Re:OSX finder issues by rjrjr · · Score: 2, Informative

      Maybe you're not a troll, but you're ill-informed. That nasty finder is a ground up Carbon rewrite, which measures up to neither the Finder nor the old NeXTstep WorkSpace.

    2. Re:OSX finder issues by zephc · · Score: 5, Informative

      most likely its because you dont have write permissions to said folder (directory) and your account cant write the .DS_Store file to said folder. Otherwise I have had no problem with folders keeping their views.

      In Terminal.app, try `chown -R [yourusername]:staff ~/' and to any other folders you frequent (like on other drives, etc).

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  5. Apple Thinks it's 2001 by Schlemphfer · · Score: 5, Informative

    I happened to be in the process of downloading 10.1.3 when I came across this discussion on Slashdot. The installation was effortless, and it's great to have system software that's less than 24 hours old. But when I rebooted and selected "About This Mac," the box came up saying 10.1.3 is installed, "Copyright 1983-2001 Apple Computer."

    Oops! Fortunately, other than that little oversight, 10.1.3 seems amazing so far. Rock solid and gorgeous.

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    I'm generally "Interesting," "Insightful," and even "Funny" here. What the hell happens to me at parties?
  6. Put it on last night - some findings by Dark+Paladin · · Score: 4, Informative

    At home, I run fetchmail, UW Imap/pop3, and postfix. (Some excellent instructions for installing it are here at Stepwise), Image Magick, Gimp, and some other Open Source programs on OS X. I also use BBedit and Microsoft Office X. (And I can say that Entourage is a far superior program to the one I have to use with Windows.)

    The good news: Nothing broke. 10.1.3 didn't rewrite any mail settings, so all of my mail continued to come in/get sent out just fine.

    The bad: Still no focus-follows-mouse, multiple desktops, or the ability to connect to my wife's printer on her Windows 98 box.

    I did have a problem with Samba for a little bit (I have another computer running Win98 I use just for games playing). Once I turned off the SMB service and turned it back on, it worked fine.

    Some of these things comes from a former KDE user (ie: focus-follows-mouse, etc), but overall, since it didn't break anything, I'm assuming all went well. As person who used Linux 90% of the time up until last week, OS X is still surprising me by all the little nice things they put in.

  7. 10.1.3 Upgrade Results - TiBook 667 by greygent · · Score: 3, Informative

    Locked up during the "Optimizing OS X" portion of the install. Cursor moved, but no apps responded. I almost expected this, as I read about install lockups with tibook users. I was not immune.

    Powered off, and rebooted. Ran 'sudo update_prebinding -root', which is what "Optimizing OS X" usually means. Seems to work like a champ, now. I notice a little speed increase.

    % uname -a
    Darwin neptune.sps.lane.edu 5.3 Darwin Kernel Version 5.3: Thu Jan 24 22:06:02 PST 2002; root:xnu/xnu-201.19.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc

  8. Re:apple.slashdot.org? by rapid+prototype · · Score: 2, Informative

    because the corporate headquarters for apple is located at the street address '1 infinite loop' ?

    -rp

  9. Re:Ooohhh... Aqua by PhoenixK7 · · Score: 2, Informative

    its:

    #include
    int main(void)
    {
    printf("\t\b\b");
    return 0;
    }

    I just BSOD'ed my machine with it... :)

    enjoy

    -jsnyder

  10. SCSI CD-RW support by nullard · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm just glad that my old SCSI Yamaha 8x4x24 actually works in OS X using the built in Disc Burner and iTunes. Burning CDs was just about the last thing justifying keeping OS 9 on my G4.

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  11. Multiple desktops by GeorgeH · · Score: 4, Informative

    Check out Space for multiple desktops. Not quite true multiple desktops but I can't imagine OS X without it.

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    Why can't I moderate something "Wrong" or at least "Grossly Misinformed"?
  12. update locks up *all* of my G4-based machines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Thus far, 10.1.3 has locked up *every* G4 system I have tried it on... first gen "Yikes" G4, Sawtooth G4, and PowerBook G4.

    Beware! It seems Apple has not tested this release and we the users are going to pay dearly for it. This is not acceptable.

  13. Faster by ruiner13 · · Score: 2, Informative

    It really seems much snappier. I updated a G4/450 and a G3/350 without problem, and all window functions and menu functions are really faster. It is most apparent on the G3. THe G4 has a gig of ram, and the g3 has 128, but without classic on the machine, it runs very well and can convert MP3's to an audio CD in iTunes at 8x speed. Not bad for old hardware.

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  14. Re:DVD player also works on Pismo Powerbook G3 ! by tarkin · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm very pleased to say it also works great on the Powerbook G3 (Pismo/Firewire)
    Just tested it on my TV and on an external monitor, all I can say is SWEEEEEET
    Together with an Cordless Optical Mouse from Logitech it's the ideal makedue DVD platform ;-)

    Now al we need is support for VCD and SVCD under OSX. And maybe mp3 audio support in quicktime so we can play Divx without all that conversion stuff.

    Apple really dropped the proverbial ball on that one if you ask me. I thought it was THE multimedia OS ?

    Oh, well I'm already happy I can play my copy "Hackers" when I'm in need of my regular fix of pure Bullshit.

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  15. Re:apple.slashdot.org? by green+pizza · · Score: 3, Informative
    Windows isn't open source Neither is Apple.

    Somewhat open Apple goodies:

    Quicktime Streaming Server

    Darwin, the base guts of Mac OS X

    Apple/Genentech BLAST

    OpenPlay (game sprockets)

    Not to mention that SourceForge now has Mac OS X boxes on their compile farm...

  16. also in german! by skymester · · Score: 2, Informative

    What impressed me, was that the update was instantly availible in the german language version also. I (Mac user since two weeks) expected to have to wait at least a few days.

    Does apple always release all language versions at the same time?
    Would be nice.

    BTW: hasnt anybody sayed recently that Star Wars Episode II will premire in europe on the same day as in US. Do i see the trend here that US companies stop treating ther non US customers as second class people, or is it just apple.

  17. Also... by Evro · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you look to your left, you'll see that there's also ask.slashdot.org, features.slashdot.org, books.slashdot.org, interviews.slashdot.org, etc.

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  18. Re:Quicktime by tarkin · · Score: 2, Informative
    For the record :

    We do not have to convert Divx to cinepak or something !
    Just install the Divx quicktime component, and then we have 2 choices :

    use Avi2Mov that simply converts all the stuff for you and creates a working .mov

    Extract the mp3 track from the avi , and merge it with Quicktime (Pro). It saves the same avi again but with playable audio.

    Here's the link with all the info for those who need more info

    I really don't see how a rant about proprietary software is in order, but hey - this is slashdot ;-)

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  19. My favorite new feature... by MidKnight · · Score: 4, Informative

    ... is in the Detect Displays button on the Displays System Preferences pane. Previously, to get my laptop to recognize an external display, you'd have to put it to sleep & wake it back up. This wasn't a big deal, since OS X can go to sleep & wake back up in about 4 seconds total. But, it's nice to have a button to detect other monitor(s) on the fly.

    And on a random external-monitor point, it blows people away when you're doing an Powerpoint presentation, then you pull up a pretty translucent terminal for a Unix-y CLI demo, then you start up an X-served app, all from a little Mac laptop. It amazes me that so many *nix folk still don't appreciate the phenomenal job Apple has done w/ OS X.

    --Mid

  20. Re:mac ghettos by iso · · Score: 3, Informative

    Mac-using hordes: BUY A GODDAMN $10 3-BUTTON MOUSE ALREADY!

    I'm just as sick of the one-button mouse complaint as everybody else, but for the record, the vast majority of complaints are about the one-button trackpad that can't simply be replaced.

    - j

  21. What's really changed (Bullet points, hah!) by ronabop · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you're kind of person who really wants to know how much is in an "update" (Measly bullet points doesn't do it justice):
    "lsbom /Library/Receipts/MacOSXUpdate10.1.3.pkg/Contents/ Resources/MacOSXUpdate10.1.3.bom"
    Will produce a file listing... piped to WC, there's 1832 files/folders involved in this "litte" fix.

  22. Install Froze, No SMTP+SSL by dew · · Score: 3, Informative

    I just installed 10.1.3: the install froze on my titanium g4 about 1/3 of the way through the "optimization" phase. I rebooted after the system became unresponsive and it looks like all the updates are in place, although 10.1.3 isn't listed as having been installed on my Software Update Log.

    Getting IMAP+SSL support in Mail is huge for me since that's the only way into my mail server (short of pine over SSH!). Unfortunately, Mail doesn't seem to support SMTP+SSL, so I have to rely on local relays which change depending on my connection. What a simple feature to add and what a joy that would bring to me!

    It's a good update, but some loose ends remain.

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    Code / Think / Teach / Learn
    h4x0r for

  23. It's not like they set up seperate servers... by moogla · · Score: 2, Informative

    [root@loki /root]# nslookup www.slashdot.org
    -snip-
    Name: slashdot.org
    Address: 64.28.67.150
    Aliases: www.slashdot.org

    [root@loki /root]# nslookup apple.slashdot.org
    -snip-
    Name: slashdot.org
    Address: 64.28.67.150
    Aliases: apple.slashdot.org

    [root@loki /root]# nslookup bsd.slashdot.org
    -snip-
    Name: slashdot.org
    Address: 64.28.67.150
    Aliases: bsd.slashdot.org

    They're just aliases, a neat way to filter out topics without doing any extra work.

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  24. So?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Those dates merely establish the start date for copyright protection in the author's opinion. I doubt anyone's gonna care about OS X 10.1.3 in seventy odd years.

  25. "Oooh... shiny!" - Kiki, "Sluggy Freelance" by Grail · · Score: 2, Informative

    I am not Kiki. I am, however, a Mac OS X fan.

    Here are some of the things I like about Mac OS X:

    • I can run my Mac OS 9 applications (albeit a tad slower than native Mac OS 9)
    • I can run GNU tools on the command line
    • I can use SSH to remotely control my Macintosh
    • I can run X Windows Applications locally or remotely
    • I can do Java development using command line tools like "vim", "javac"

    That's just the things that matter most to me right now, out of the box.

    Oh... one final point I almost forgot - the Aqua interface looks pretty cool. For a while. Failing all else, you can pick up "themes" through MetamorphX from CharonSoft.

    Mac OS X is very functional. It's as functional for my purposes than Linux on my PC running WindowMaker or Enlightenment.

    As for your last statement - can you provide evidence to support this claim? I don't think Sony approaches the topic the same way you do. I don't think the Ubiquitous Computing folks approach this topic the same way you do either.

  26. Re:mac ghettos by TRACK-YOUR-POSITION · · Score: 2, Informative

    Sensible Mac-and-Windows-and-Linux owning hordes: But application/OS support for right-clicks/option-clicks isn't as common as it is on the PC, where everyone is forced to have that second button, therefore developers spend the time to code it.

    On the other hand, support for things like secondary-clicks and keyboard shortcuts seems to have improved a lot with 10.1, so maybe my objection is no longer valid...

  27. simple explanation by SethJohnson · · Score: 2, Informative


    The other button you are looking for is just up and to the left of the trackpad. It is labelled ' ctrl' and is used in conjunction with the main button associated with the trackpad.

  28. Just another section by doja · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is not a forking of slashdot, it's merely a section just like apache.slashdot.org, ask.slashdot.org, or interviews.slashdot.org. I believe this is a new configuration for URLs of sections. So, all this is is a new section -- which is probably warranted, especially now that such a large segment of the current UNIX users are using OS X.