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Self-Warming Jackets

jeffy124 writes: "Those of you in the frigid north who find their coats unfulfilling of their duties may be interested in a self-warming jacket. By using steel microfibres woven into the fabric plus a lithium battery, heat is actually generated to as much as 114 degrees fahrenheit. The jackets, sadly, come with a nasty price -- US$500. Among those interested in purchasing are skiers (including some Olympians), and the Military."

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  1. microfibers, ok by twitter · · Score: 5, Funny
    for a second I thought that was steel wool. There's the poor man's version of this. Wrap yourself in steel wool and apply a lead acid battery. "Oh, ow! put it out! put it out!"

    -Do NOT do that.

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  2. I dunno about the submitter's jacket... by Akardam · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... but most jackets are designed to be "self heating". At least, any good REI type jacket is. They should create multiple layers of air around your body that your body heat will warm, with a protective layer outside that blocks most wind and water.

    Not to say that this isn't cool, but it seems a bit impractical. One wonders if it can sufficently operate as a normal jacket once its battery's worn out.

  3. military battery safety by steve_l · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was told by some DARPA person that one of the problems the military had with wearable tech was that a bullet which has just travelled through a lithium battery was more toxic than one which hadnt; wearing a coat with Li-ion elements is not the kind of thing you'd want to do on the battlefield. is that correct?

    1. Re:military battery safety by pongo000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why not just wrap the battery pack up in Kevlar? If a round gets through the Kevlar, you probably have bigger things to worry about then a few stray Li ions...

    2. Re:military battery safety by Ryan+Amos · · Score: 3

      This could be countered by placing the battery somewhere where it most likely wouldn't get shot, say, the sole of a boot. Also, a bullet through a lithium battery is probably no more hazardous than a bullet through a full magazine.

    3. Re:military battery safety by PD · · Score: 5, Funny

      So put the battery in the helmet. Lead poisoning of the head is almost always fatal, so a little lithium won't hurt.

    4. Re:military battery safety by dsb3 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Keep the battery in your boxer shorts. Not only will it keep nice and warm, but if it gets shot you certainly won't be concerned with a little extra toxicity.

      <cringe>

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  4. $500 isn't anything for many skiers by glrotate · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm a semi avid skier and I'm amazed at how much people spend on ski crap. $150 bucks for a pair of flimsy nylon pants (like th kind I got at Kmart for $12) isn't uncommon. So I would imagine a selfwarming jacket (if it has stylish logos) at $500 will have no problem selling.

  5. North Face : Old News : Check Here by Hates · · Score: 4, Informative


    Wow! These were shown in Mens Health magazine here in the UK before Christmas...

    Slashdot/CNN need to get with the times or get more healthy! Check it out!

    MET 5 Jacket

    1. Re:North Face : Old News : Check Here by RestiffBard · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm thinking Men's Health is not your typical slashdotter magazine. :)

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  6. Murphy by trustno_one · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think this is a not so good idea.

    - Batteries work very bad/not at all in cold conditions, you world have to keep the entire resupply of batteries inside the jacket.

    - Adds complexity, will probably not work when it is really needed (Murphys laws of combat)

    - Cotton still works very well from -15 deg C
    to -30 -15 deg C, in fact t-shirt, jacket and winter camo works quite well if walking.

    - May be usable as a emergency blanket, if you need to reheat someone suffering from mild hypothermia. Having tried that once, it was not very pleasant.

    1. Re:Murphy by Performer+Guy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So put the battery INSIDE the jacket. It'll be snug as a bug in there and be operating at ideal temperatures.

    2. Re:Murphy by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      this was the point of the military application..

      the armymen are not going to be jogging, doing jumping jacks, etc.. they are going to be sitting in a ditch full of ice and snow, while a blizzard of snow and small bullet shaped pieces of lead fly overhead. you are not moving while you wait it out in a foxhole... so you dont generate heat and you get hypothermia even with 32" of polar fleece wrapped around you. All military footsoldiers have never fought a hard war. in reality, if you are fighting a ground war in a very cold region (because the enemy has been shooting every plane we have out of the sky, and the country is too far inland for the Iowa to lob Volkswagen Bug sized projectiles all over. so far we've fought countries that have no abilities, so in the event we actually have to fight a real ground war this technology would be a life saver. plus it would be a morale booster, which is more important that health during combat.. A warm soldier is a fighting soldier. I pray that we never again fight a war that is anything like the conditions were during WW-II,Vietmnam,Korea..as I am certian that our ground troops are not ready for such conditions.

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  7. Re:$500 is not awful by dattaway · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://www.gerbing.com/

    Nothing but highest recommendations. It appears it will last a lifetime. I have had this suit for this winter season and the quality appears to exceed BMW's heated vest which I have abused for two years without fail. After tearing up a widder in less than a month and fixing it several times until it could be used no more, I would go with nothing else besides BMW or Gerbing. And the heat output is incredible. Most importantly I know it will not fail on long trips. In the cold weather on a motorcycle in the middle of nowhere, quality is the difference between life and death.

    My suit has electric heated socks (which are uncomfortable by themselves,) the two piece suit which can be comfortably worn over street clothes, electric gloves (never leave home without them,) and a the collar in the jacket has extra heating and sticks inside the helmet to keep my sinuses warm. It works and is worth the investment if you like the snow.

  8. Benefits of Electric Clothing by Christopher+Bibbs · · Score: 3, Informative

    First off let me say that I wear electric clothing on a regular basis. Of course, mine is the somewhat low-tech variety. More cheap electric blanket, less lithium-ion.

    The main reason I wear them, is for when you need to be stationary in the elements for an extended period of time. Sure, I'd be warm if I were moving about, but if you have to sit still for 60 minutes it's going to take a *LOT* of insulation to equal the warmth of a good electric vest.

    There's another subtle difference between heavy insulation and active heating. Alterness. You'd be amazed at how fast your reaction time sinks when you get a little cold. That's not so bad when your hiking along a trail, but if you're driving a motorcycle (like me) or holding a gun (soliders) then a half second can be critical.

  9. Nothing new for motorcyclists by dstone · · Score: 3, Informative

    I ride year round and it's frequently cold enough to put on my electric vest under my motorcycle jacket. These things are a life-saver and they're pretty low-tech, with fine wires laid out in an electric blanket configuration surrounding your torso. Of course, I guess this approach to keeping warm is much easier to pull off when you're riding a high-current, 400+ pound battery on wheels...

  10. Integrate it with laptops. by torpor · · Score: 3, Funny

    My titanium puts out a lot of heat - and I'm moving to Europe soon (Germany) - so I know it'll function quite nicely as a bed-warmer during those long nights.

    Plus it plays DVD's, so in all it's pretty much like snuggling up in front of the fire and watching a movie ... in a tight little package.

    If they could one day *use* the heat that these sorts of devices put out, instead of trying hard to reduce it, things might become a little more efficient ...

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  11. People are missing the point by fmaxwell · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How many of you have ridden motorcycles in a cold winter climate? I don't care how many layers you have on, what nifty fibers they contain, etc. If you wear something that doesn't breathe, you end up covered in sweat. If you wear something that does breathe, you freeze at highway speeds. That's why heated electric vests are so popular.

    I've only been riding motorcycles for about 28 years, so I expect there will be some people that weren't born when I started riding that are sure that they know far more than I. You will find their responses following this.