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Disney Aquires Sen to Chihiro, Lasseter to Dub
peter_gzowski writes "Disney
has finally announced that it will be bringing Miyazaki's anime masterpiece Sen
to Chihiro (Spirited Away) over to North American theaters. Sen to Chihiro is
the most successful non-U.S. produced movie in the world. It has grossed about 30 billion yen ($226 million U.S.), which is more than Titanic (the previous record holder). We can expect it to be here around July."
John Lasseter of Pixar fame is lined up to consult on the dub. No voices
yet confirmed, but John: I'm available and willing.
I thought the article was about Disney acquiring another senator... Hollings is annoying enough already.
This review contains some spoilers, don't read it if you like your movie surprises.
Actually, Titanic had a worldwide gross of nearly $2 billion. Sen to Chihiro still has some catching up to do.
Well call me crazy because I'm becoming too passionate about something offtopic to this discussion, but if we're just going to forget it after one day, no wonder they're going to get away with it.
What time is it/will be over there? Check with my iPhone app!
1. You must not speak English better than a native speaker who is 5 years old.
2. The dubbing must be out of sync from the movie by at least 1 second.
3. At least one out every ten words must be a gross mis-translation to add to the humor.
4. Whenever there is a plot-clarification dialog, it must be mangled beyond the point of sanity and include a chicken-crossing-the-road joke.
5. The dubber must drink a shot of vodka for every time the end of the world is threatened. Or, one shot every five minutes, whichever is greater.
6. If there is no humor is in the translation, it must be substituted with a 'momma' joke.
. . . the only one to have read that at first as "Disney acquires Senator Tochihiro . . ."?
Another purely defensive license, before anime washes over the decks and the S.S. Wish Upon a Star founders.
So, how many theaters will this one appear in? Eight? Whaddya say guys? How about we go all out and book 100 theaters this time? Maybe a TV commercial or two?
While you're throwing money around, how about hiring some writers? You know, like the anime companies do? They've got television series for nine-year-olds with better dramatic structure and story quality than some Hollywood theater dramas.
Meanwhile, in other news, plans were just announced for (dalmatians, dalmatians<105, dalmatians++), Cinderella 3: I Just Want my Pumpkin Back, Your Honor, and Tron: The Musical.
..and that Suncoast anime DVD rack just keeps growing...
And as usual, the rest of the world scratches its head in puzzlement over Japan's antics.
Well, we really should cut 'em some slack. They're just in a hurry trying to figure out where to put all that anime licensing money.
Does anyone really want a dub of this?? I would rather have it properly subtitled, and shown with the original voices & music. Dubs almost never capture the mood of the scene, or the subtleties of the dialogue correctly.
Then again, perhaps I'm just bitter because of the horrible dubs made my companies like Funimation to some of my favorite pieces of Anime. Bad translations, awful voice work, and horrible replacement music. Let's hope the same doesn't happen with Sen to Chihiro.
When I first read the title of the article, my mind misread it as "Disney acquires Sen. Chihiro".
It sounds crazy, but Disney buying out a member of Congress seems somehow plausible.
Ergonomica Auctorita Illico!
Please suggest that digital projection theatres have midnight showings with subtitles and the original Japanese voice tracks instead of the celebrity flavor of the month voices (like that X-files chick or the guy from slingblade). I already sat through a Miyazaki film with tacky Hollywood dub.
While I want to see all of Miyazaki/Ghibli's movies released theatrically in North America, I can't help but wonder about the order they are choosing.
Sen deals with Japanese Mythology (which many North Americans won't know/care anything about), and of course, there's the ghost/spirit angle which will drive the biblethumpers down south crazy...
Nevertheless, they perhaps should've stuck to some more genuine "crowd pleasers" to get the ball rolling. Frankly I'm amazed that they didn't already do a full theatrical release of Laputa (or Castle in the Sky as they're calling it). It always generates the biggest and best reaction amongst first-time Ghibli viewers IMHO.
Rob buddy, you'd just better pray that Kathleen didn't read this one.
"I may not have morals, but I have standards."
Is this the same Disney that wants to destroy your right to enjoy your computer hardware and software technology just so they can methods to prevent you from accessing the content you have already bought and paid for? Is this the same Disney that so many people are now telling friends and family to boycott? Is this the same Disney that has bought and paid for Senator Hollings, D-SC?
now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
The entire audience I saw it with squirmed uncomfortably when they saw what was going on.
"Otaku" does not mean hard-core anime fan. This is a mis-use common amongst American / western anime fans. Otaku is a word used to refer to someone who is REALLY into something, a fanatic, someone obsessed with something.
I have lived in Japan for the last 5 years. I have met people who take pictures of trains. They are otaku. My friend jokes that I was an origami otaku when I spent a few weeks making origami during all my free time at work. My (Japanese) wife says her boss is a computer otaku. This is a lighter joking way to use otaku, but it can be applied to any kind of hobby. The word in no way carries any connotations that are exclusive to manga or anime. An 'otaku' is someone who is a little strange.
Most of the perfectly normal Japanese kids I have known who enjoy reading manga and watching anime are NOT otaku. I have heard of a guy who had finished high school and hadn't looked for a job - he stayed in his room all day with the door closed reading manga, only leaving the house to buy more manga. That WOULD be a manga otaku.
Now about this story... I am really excited to hear that Sen to Chihiro will be available in English. I recal seeing the trailers for this movie for months while in the theatre to see other movies. It looked wierd but wonderful and the author is legendary.
Literally "otaku" is "[your] house". It's a personal pronoun meaning "you," but quite formal, cold, and distant (see note). People who use "otaku" to mean "you" outside its normal usage pattern (essentially certain types of sales situations) are socially challenged individuals who have difficulty connecting with others. Since this social trait frequently coincides with an intense interest in something other than people (like anime or trainspotting), it's a hallmark of nerdiness, and so "otaku" has come to be the name for such people.
Note: This shift in meaning from noun (house) to pronoun (you) to noun (nerd) is not unusual in Japanese pronouns. There are about 80 well-known ways of saying "I", about a dozen in common use, and countless more in literary/historical use.
Let's consider a case in point: young boys refer t themselves as "boku," which originally meant something like "manservent." Since people often refer themselves and others by their roles, "boku" would indeed once have been a word for onesself, in certain circumstances. At some point in the past hundred years or so, it shifted from roughly "squire" to to a general word for the squire-like self, i.e., a young bou. Interestingly enough, the word "boku" can also mean "you," when used by someone else to address a boy; for example, his mother may call him that. (In English, we have the opposite -- parents call themselves what the children call them.)
Another example is "kimi," which originally something like "prince" (I think), but is now a warm and close "you" for certain social standings, perhaps like the French "tu" but with more restrictions on social use, age of participants, etc.
A related word for you is "kisama." But don't use it! Even though the "sama" suffix is an honorifi (a step more monorific than the well-known "san") using the resulting "kisama" to an individual is an invitation to a fistfight.
Japanese is a fascinating language, and has had hundreds of years to evolve nuances of meaning and usage in pronouns, nouns, and verbs expression relationships between people.
Alright. I don't call Hacker Otakus "Otakus". I call them "l33t Hax0rz". I don't call Otaku Ravers "Otakus". I call them "candyravers". I don't call Renn Faire Otakus "Otakus". I call them "Fucking annoying SCA people".
Primarily in English-speaking culture, "Otaku" came from and tends to stick in the domain of anime. The only people that tend to use the word, in North America at least, use it in a reference to Anime fanatics. And anybody who overextends the name understands that its bridge into this culture is from the Anime fans. As a result, on the most part, the only people who complain about Otaku only being used with reference to Anime fans are, in fact, anime otakus.
I'm a Rocky Horror Picture Show Otaku. But I never really refer to myself as that (Usually I stick to "Rocky Horror Freak").
And yes, I realize how ethnocentric that attitude is, but the fact that this board is in the English Language kinda limits the jargon in this case. In the english language, the jargon term "Otaku" refers to a hardcore Anime fanatic.
Except to Otakus.
*runs to see if this is actually in the jargon file anywhere*
Crap. Someone wanna bug ESR about this?
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