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Disney Aquires Sen to Chihiro, Lasseter to Dub
peter_gzowski writes "Disney
has finally announced that it will be bringing Miyazaki's anime masterpiece Sen
to Chihiro (Spirited Away) over to North American theaters. Sen to Chihiro is
the most successful non-U.S. produced movie in the world. It has grossed about 30 billion yen ($226 million U.S.), which is more than Titanic (the previous record holder). We can expect it to be here around July."
John Lasseter of Pixar fame is lined up to consult on the dub. No voices
yet confirmed, but John: I'm available and willing.
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I thought the article was about Disney acquiring another senator... Hollings is annoying enough already.
There has definitely been a shortage of good anime in theatres. Aside from Princess Mononoke (sp?), I really haven't seen anything in theatres over the past couple years. From those readers that happen to be informed, what are some anime releases that actually made it to theatres in the US?
This review contains some spoilers, don't read it if you like your movie surprises.
Anybody but Disney.
For gods sake! If this movie dosn't wind up terible it'll be a miracle.
Disney is the most evil company in the world.
I know I'm going to hell, I'm just trying to get good seats.
When we will get all of the other Miyazaki anime that Uncle Walt bought the rights to.
Sorry CmdrTaco, unless you have a SAG card you won't be dubbing anything :P
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Actually, Titanic had a worldwide gross of nearly $2 billion. Sen to Chihiro still has some catching up to do.
Well call me crazy because I'm becoming too passionate about something offtopic to this discussion, but if we're just going to forget it after one day, no wonder they're going to get away with it.
What time is it/will be over there? Check with my iPhone app!
I'm sure it's a better movie, but the statement that $226mil is a bigger gross than Titanic is ridiculous. Here's some actual numbers. Note that Titanic grossed close to $2BILLION worldwide. Almost an order of magnitude more!
Perhaps what the poster meant to say is that it has grossed more in Japan. And as usual, the rest of the world scratches its head in puzzlement over Japan's antics.
. . . I'm pretty sure that Titanic Grossed $601 million in the US.
Your hair look like poop, Bob! - Wanker.
Why the hell is this on Slashdot?
WHY the HELL is this on SLASHDOT?
WHY THE HELL IS THIS ON SLASHDOT?
Slashdot crowd does not care about Disney unless....well.........
The Slashdot crowd does not care about Disney [period]
Or anime...
Anime sucks.
1. You must not speak English better than a native speaker who is 5 years old.
2. The dubbing must be out of sync from the movie by at least 1 second.
3. At least one out every ten words must be a gross mis-translation to add to the humor.
4. Whenever there is a plot-clarification dialog, it must be mangled beyond the point of sanity and include a chicken-crossing-the-road joke.
5. The dubber must drink a shot of vodka for every time the end of the world is threatened. Or, one shot every five minutes, whichever is greater.
6. If there is no humor is in the translation, it must be substituted with a 'momma' joke.
Are Bob Goldweight and Gilbert Godfried going to be the voices for the english release ;-)
Eve Fairbanks says I drive a hybrid!LOL
. . . the only one to have read that at first as "Disney acquires Senator Tochihiro . . ."?
Ga'h! It's aCquires! a**C**quires! ! ! !
Heh, how does the Linux/Geek world look when one of its largest internet hubs misspells something incredibly simple like acquires? Grarr!
:*(
Okay, so Sen to Chihiro is the highest grossing non-U.S. movie ever made. However, I am confused as to why Titanic is listed as the previous record holder. As Titanic is the highest grossing U.S. produced movie.Perhaps the author intended to say that Sen to Chihiro is the highest grossing Japanese film?
Another purely defensive license, before anime washes over the decks and the S.S. Wish Upon a Star founders.
So, how many theaters will this one appear in? Eight? Whaddya say guys? How about we go all out and book 100 theaters this time? Maybe a TV commercial or two?
While you're throwing money around, how about hiring some writers? You know, like the anime companies do? They've got television series for nine-year-olds with better dramatic structure and story quality than some Hollywood theater dramas.
Meanwhile, in other news, plans were just announced for (dalmatians, dalmatians<105, dalmatians++), Cinderella 3: I Just Want my Pumpkin Back, Your Honor, and Tron: The Musical.
..and that Suncoast anime DVD rack just keeps growing...
You know, this may come as a shock to you, but there are many movies out there that are not anime. You might actually have some friends if you went to see something that isn't a crappy tentacle-rape cartoon once in a while.
I know you are so what am I?
INFINITY^n!!!!!!!!
Does anyone really want a dub of this?? I would rather have it properly subtitled, and shown with the original voices & music. Dubs almost never capture the mood of the scene, or the subtleties of the dialogue correctly.
Then again, perhaps I'm just bitter because of the horrible dubs made my companies like Funimation to some of my favorite pieces of Anime. Bad translations, awful voice work, and horrible replacement music. Let's hope the same doesn't happen with Sen to Chihiro.
The greatest day in the history of the world will be when Rob Malda dies. I hope he dies soon and his girlfriend gets raped by a Windows user!
...not that it is any more realistic
So are they going to bring in the tentacle pr0n stuff also?
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Go right out and GIVE MORE MONEY to the evil MPAA, right? You bunch of fucking ASS-WANKS.
STOP ME BEFORE I POST AGAIN!
When I first read the title of the article, my mind misread it as "Disney acquires Sen. Chihiro".
It sounds crazy, but Disney buying out a member of Congress seems somehow plausible.
Ergonomica Auctorita Illico!
Why in the world is miyazaki going with disney again. Disney has absolutely no understanding of japanese anime and only wants to do crappy releases to discredit it. IMNSHO, disney needs to get out of the animation business. Pixar doesn't need disney. Everything from disney the last 10 years has sucked (I don't consider pixar's movie disney produced). Here's to hoping michael isner is fired and some one with an understanding of movies takes his place.
When it's released in the States, the film will invariably have been Disneyfied beyond recognition. Maybe they'll even hire Pixar to add a few cute, computer generated creatures to it. :)
And Slashdot, should we or should we not support Disney? After all, they are the primary advocates of The Root of All Evil (tm), the SSSCA. (I loathe the SSSCA, for your information.)
Do you like German cars?
Please suggest that digital projection theatres have midnight showings with subtitles and the original Japanese voice tracks instead of the celebrity flavor of the month voices (like that X-files chick or the guy from slingblade). I already sat through a Miyazaki film with tacky Hollywood dub.
The word you're searching for is "drivel", not "dribble". Illiterate fucktard.
haha. Malda dual-boots Windows XP and lesbian Linux. Malda, you queer...
While I want to see all of Miyazaki/Ghibli's movies released theatrically in North America, I can't help but wonder about the order they are choosing.
Sen deals with Japanese Mythology (which many North Americans won't know/care anything about), and of course, there's the ghost/spirit angle which will drive the biblethumpers down south crazy...
Nevertheless, they perhaps should've stuck to some more genuine "crowd pleasers" to get the ball rolling. Frankly I'm amazed that they didn't already do a full theatrical release of Laputa (or Castle in the Sky as they're calling it). It always generates the biggest and best reaction amongst first-time Ghibli viewers IMHO.
Meanwhile, in other news, plans were just announced for(dalmatians; dalmatians<105; dalmatians++), Cinderella 3: I Just Want my Pumpkin Back, Your Honor, and Tron: The Musical.
Notably absent is Pinocchio II, possibly because another studio got there first and f*cked it up.
Will I retire or break 10K?
...note his inventive comma usage.
Yeah, I can see it now. They'll get John Goodman, Robin Williams, Whoopi Goldberg...maybe
James Earl Jones for any authority figures.
Working with Pixar, eh? "hey can you digitally
add in some wisecracking animal companions"
...maybe toss in a gut-wrenching Elton John torch song or something.
HAHAHAHAH!
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John Lasseter is also a big UNIX buy, BTW.
He drew the BSD Daemon on the cover of my "design and implementation of the BSD OS" book.
Not only in the US--they control the distribution world-wide, including in Japan. That was what they really wanted when they went after the Ghibli library a few years back--the lucrative Japanese market. America was just an afterthought, and we can see the results of that now.
That was why the Mononoke DVD almost didn't have Japanese audio--Buena Vista Japan objected, fearing that the Japanese would import the DVD back into Japan, and DVD pirates would make cheap knockoffs, and it would hurt their bottom line.
The thought over on the Miyazaki Mailing List is, in part, that Spirited Away might just be Miyazaki's second chance in the USA. If it turns out to be a big hit, then that might kick Disney into gear cranking out the DVDs, if they can put "From the director of Spirited Away" on the cover in big letters. See this message from Marc Hairston for the reasoning.
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I'm sure Sen to Chichiro is very good but let's not get too fan-boyish about it, eh?
Please. A half second of fact checking over at IMDB http://us.imdb.com/Business?0120338 puts the lie into yet another fanboys submission. At least $1.2 BILLION non US. $600 million us ALONE.
Thank god slashdot ain't a newspaper, or corrections would be a section of its own, the editors fired, and the writers looking for work at some place that likes creative fiction.
Anime is cool, but making up BS about just iritates me.
Rob buddy, you'd just better pray that Kathleen didn't read this one.
"I may not have morals, but I have standards."
You seem tense. Share your feelings with the group. We feel your pain.
why is this on slashdot at all?
>I already sat through a Miyazaki film with tacky Hollywood dub.
while i wholeheartedly agree that subtitles are way better than dubbing (i don't mind having to do a little work to experience the film in its most genuine form while still understanding it), perhaps it's not just "tacky Hollywood dub" but tacky Japanese dialogue. be it a poorly written script or maybe literal translations of Japanese sound "tacky" to American english ears.
either way subtitles are preferred. hell, kids or adults may even learn something from being forced to read for a change.
Shouldn't You expect more from your DJ?
Do as I say you skanks, or I will slut my way into editorial powers and BITCH SLAP YOU ALL!
Is this the same Disney that wants to destroy your right to enjoy your computer hardware and software technology just so they can methods to prevent you from accessing the content you have already bought and paid for? Is this the same Disney that so many people are now telling friends and family to boycott? Is this the same Disney that has bought and paid for Senator Hollings, D-SC?
now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
Lassiter lives in Sonoma, where I live. Maybe I can get a job.
Oooh, oooh, Mr. Kotter, I can do voice overs!
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So... doesn't this put this in a bad position.
From one perspective we have a great movie translated and dubbed into English.
On the other hand, profits from this movie will go right to back the SSSCA.
The SSSCA will basically mean the destruction of the Open Source community. Microsoft has a patent on DRM based Operating Systems and even if Linux, at some point, does become compliant with the SSSCA, I am sure MS will not license the patent to the OSS community.
What am I going to do? I am not going to be watching or buying any more Disney movies.
I don't think I could look at myself in the mirror.
I don't know what you guys are going to do but I think you should think long and hard about the situation.
Just as long as the dub is reasonably well-done, I think the movie will do well here in the USA. I thought the dub of Mononoke Hime actually quite good considering the translation from the original Japanese.
:-)
However, given the finicky demands of DVD owners, I expect the DVD version of Spirited Away to have both the English-dubbed version and the Japanese language original complete with literal English translation subtitles of the original Japanese. That's why I really liked the DVD version of Princess Mononoke.
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I am into the copy and paste.
Although this movie has made more than Titanic In Japan, Titanic has grossed 1.8 trillion dollars worldwide. That's a lot. Cartoons do not have the same wide appeal in the United States (or the rest of the world) as they do in Japan. The highest grossing cartoon ever, The Lion King, made less than half of Titanic worldwide.
"Otaku" does not mean hard-core anime fan. This is a mis-use common amongst American / western anime fans. Otaku is a word used to refer to someone who is REALLY into something, a fanatic, someone obsessed with something.
I have lived in Japan for the last 5 years. I have met people who take pictures of trains. They are otaku. My friend jokes that I was an origami otaku when I spent a few weeks making origami during all my free time at work. My (Japanese) wife says her boss is a computer otaku. This is a lighter joking way to use otaku, but it can be applied to any kind of hobby. The word in no way carries any connotations that are exclusive to manga or anime. An 'otaku' is someone who is a little strange.
Most of the perfectly normal Japanese kids I have known who enjoy reading manga and watching anime are NOT otaku. I have heard of a guy who had finished high school and hadn't looked for a job - he stayed in his room all day with the door closed reading manga, only leaving the house to buy more manga. That WOULD be a manga otaku.
Now about this story... I am really excited to hear that Sen to Chihiro will be available in English. I recal seeing the trailers for this movie for months while in the theatre to see other movies. It looked wierd but wonderful and the author is legendary.
I finally escaped from the "Love Dungeon" that Rob and Taco had imprisoned me in. While there the most foul acts of sodomy one can imagine where forced upon me. Let me tell you that there is nothing on God's beautiful earth as disturbing as Taco, wearing only a feather boa and an East German gas mask prancing around you giggling, "It rubs the lotion all over its skin..." while thrusting his pus-ridden member deep into your backside.
Fortunately I am free. The details of my escape will await a future post.
However, I would like to take this opportunity to point out that while imprisoned, I observed that none of the PCs at the Slashdot compound actually ran Linux. The bulk of them ran Windows XP, with a few Macintoshes thrown in (the Slashdot webserver is an old Quadra 610.)
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Pixar needs disney, and It's pretty simple. Think how much money Square dropped into producing Final Fantasy The Spirits within. Now think about how Disney owns all the hardware that pixar is using to make it's movies, and is the one risking that pixar's movies will bomb. Disney is also promoting all the movies that Pixar brings out.
True, Pixar does have compitition that isn't run by disney. However DreamWorks was started by Steven Spielburg. You know the guy that turned Jaws from a little film about shark attacks into a Blockbuster film. Pixar would have a hard time leaving disney, however the talent that is making pixar so great could easily find a way out of any contracts they have with disney and work for another studio. Perhaps if a studio buys out Square pictures they'll decide to talent farm at pixar to turn it into a profitable picture group.
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I just hope they keep the original music and soundtrack and not change anything that will make it bad.
He has a valid point. Especially in a tech oriented website like slahsdot where most of us are IT professionals.
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...Laputa (or Castle in the Sky as they're calling it). It always generates the biggest and best reaction amongst first-time Ghibli viewers IMHO.
I've heard that from others too. I was underwhelmed by the ending, but it's been a while since I've seen it. Perhaps I missed something. I found Nausicaa to be a much better movie. That's still my favorite of all the ghibli films I've seen.
Either way, I'd love to have Nausicaa, Laputa, Porco Rosso, and Kiki's on DVD.
IMHO,
Michael
Part of the tackiness comes from having to fit the english dialog to the japanese lip movements. It gets very stilted when you have long pauses and then rushed strings of words to get the lips to match. It sounds like every character is doing a Captain Kirk impression.
Subtitles all the way for me...
I really hope Lasseter dubs one of the lines in the movie as "rip, mix, burn."
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Living in Tokyo and loving Ghibi movies I've seen "Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi" 5 times in the theaters. In otherwords, I like it quite a bit.
On the other hand I suspect it will not do well in the states. Although it is probably more approachable than Mononoke Hime it is never the less not what most Americans are looking for.
There is no real climax to the movie. A few issues are pulled out of nowhere. So while over all it's great. Interesting characters, interesting situations, interesting settings I suspect most Americans will leave the theater thinking it's lacking something.
Note: I am in no way suggesting that it's bad or that American taste is good (or bad) just that the movie won't fit the general American audience.
Especially with a work as cinematic as Miyazaki's, I want my eyes to be free to wander the screen and enjoy the animation. With subtitles, half the time I miss important graphical elements because i'm too busy reading the text. Personally, I'm hoping they'll hire unfamous voice-actors and use the money they saved to hire talented translators.
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And, while I would love to see it in the theatres, I'm not going to put money in their pockets by doing it.
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Section 2 of the statute is limited to particular classes of works, such as collective works, motion pictures, translations and atlases (among others). A lot of works do not fall under the enumerated categories and are therefore not considered "works for hire". Because of this litigation has concentrated on Section 1 of the statute, which states that a work made for hire is "a work prepared by an employee within the scope of his or her employment". It is this statute which explicitly designates the work of an employee as a "work made for hire", and it is this statute which courts have referred to in determining whether works prepared by an employee belong to the employer.
Frankly speaking, I do not believe that either Hollings or Disney have anything but the best of their interests in mind.
I do not think that Disney deserves the time or money that they seek to get from me. I do not think that I should be supporting a company that so callously thinks of me and everybody else in this country- that they presume that all of us are thieves and that they need to get the government to make it such that their stuff is protected from us.
When someone falsely accuses me of something, I generally do not associate or do business with them. And, that's what Disney and all the other businesses and politicians are doing by supporting the SSSCA- they're accusing all of us of being thieves. I'm going to do what I can to not put money in Disney's pockets. I was thinking of going to Disneyworld this summer. Now, I'm not so sure. I don't think I'll be going to their movies at all until they change their tune, and very likely all movies because I suspect the other MPAA members are for this bill as well. I don't think I'll be purchasing anything licensed from their properties either for the same reason. I'll make it a point of mentioning that they were the biggest backer of the SSSCA and what the SSSCA is all about when opportunities present themselves- and I've already done so several times this last week. The results seem favorable as the people that I told didn't know this all was going on and they had issues with the idea and with all of what has gone down about the hearings and all.
I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the State of Texas
You do realize that once a term is "borrowed" into another toungue (don't ask me why linguists use the term "borrowed" as I've never seen a single word ever returned!) it can and usually does shift in meaning? Much of the English language is "loan words" from other languages and most of those words have different meanings, sometimes strikingly different, than the original term in its native toungue. The situation is the same, for terms borrowed into Japanese from English.
"Otaku" will probably never become a widely used English term, simply because very few English speakers care much about otaku, but, in the otaku jargon, it means exactly whatever it is they say it means.
Erik
here.
Your argument might hold water if all members of the slashdot community were required to think alike. However (and fortunately), this is not the case. What you call "Slashdot" consists of thousands of different people with a many different opinions. It is not at all incongruous that some would think one way, and others would think the other way.
Literally "otaku" is "[your] house". It's a personal pronoun meaning "you," but quite formal, cold, and distant (see note). People who use "otaku" to mean "you" outside its normal usage pattern (essentially certain types of sales situations) are socially challenged individuals who have difficulty connecting with others. Since this social trait frequently coincides with an intense interest in something other than people (like anime or trainspotting), it's a hallmark of nerdiness, and so "otaku" has come to be the name for such people.
Note: This shift in meaning from noun (house) to pronoun (you) to noun (nerd) is not unusual in Japanese pronouns. There are about 80 well-known ways of saying "I", about a dozen in common use, and countless more in literary/historical use.
Let's consider a case in point: young boys refer t themselves as "boku," which originally meant something like "manservent." Since people often refer themselves and others by their roles, "boku" would indeed once have been a word for onesself, in certain circumstances. At some point in the past hundred years or so, it shifted from roughly "squire" to to a general word for the squire-like self, i.e., a young bou. Interestingly enough, the word "boku" can also mean "you," when used by someone else to address a boy; for example, his mother may call him that. (In English, we have the opposite -- parents call themselves what the children call them.)
Another example is "kimi," which originally something like "prince" (I think), but is now a warm and close "you" for certain social standings, perhaps like the French "tu" but with more restrictions on social use, age of participants, etc.
A related word for you is "kisama." But don't use it! Even though the "sama" suffix is an honorifi (a step more monorific than the well-known "san") using the resulting "kisama" to an individual is an invitation to a fistfight.
Japanese is a fascinating language, and has had hundreds of years to evolve nuances of meaning and usage in pronouns, nouns, and verbs expression relationships between people.
It's a very important fact since it's the first time that an animated movie which, moreover, happens to be a japanes animated movie won such an important prize. I don't know how many of you US based folks (I'm italian and I live in Italy, at the moment) heard of this movie festival but it's a pretty important festival here in Europe and the movies which get the prizes are usually considered to be high quality movies. I hope this will help animated movies to exit from the ghetto where they are (childish movies) and start being considered only movies; moreover I hope the prize will help the anime to be considered normal movies and not porn or low quality movies.
Ok, enough for the rant now,
Andrea
PS some more rant ;) I submitted the Berlin Prize story some weeks ago but it didn't make it to the main page, don't know why though. Sic transit gloria Slashdoti.
Alright. I don't call Hacker Otakus "Otakus". I call them "l33t Hax0rz". I don't call Otaku Ravers "Otakus". I call them "candyravers". I don't call Renn Faire Otakus "Otakus". I call them "Fucking annoying SCA people".
Primarily in English-speaking culture, "Otaku" came from and tends to stick in the domain of anime. The only people that tend to use the word, in North America at least, use it in a reference to Anime fanatics. And anybody who overextends the name understands that its bridge into this culture is from the Anime fans. As a result, on the most part, the only people who complain about Otaku only being used with reference to Anime fans are, in fact, anime otakus.
I'm a Rocky Horror Picture Show Otaku. But I never really refer to myself as that (Usually I stick to "Rocky Horror Freak").
And yes, I realize how ethnocentric that attitude is, but the fact that this board is in the English Language kinda limits the jargon in this case. In the english language, the jargon term "Otaku" refers to a hardcore Anime fanatic.
Except to Otakus.
*runs to see if this is actually in the jargon file anywhere*
Crap. Someone wanna bug ESR about this?
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People like you give Flamebait a bad name...
You should learn to read.
I watched an old Hong Kong Kungfu flick once with sub-titles that went like this:
Distraught hero is discussing his next course of action after taking a drubbing from the bad guy, he is talking with his teacher
Student: should I challenge bad guy to a duel and restore my families honour?
At this point the teacher speaks for about 2 minutes, then the sub-title:
NO!
Cracked me up.
I've also found different sub-titles on the same movie, one was abridged, the other was a fair bit wordier and told the sory much better.
The point is, bad sub-titles can be just as bad as bad dubbing.
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Anyone remember the movie named kids that Disney distributed? It was about a teen girl that gave AIDS to her friends. I thought it was just a fluke that Disney was associated with that trash, but now their distributing Jap porn? I wonder how low they'll go for a buck. I guess we'll see if Hollings keeps getting his way.
I don't give a fsck what the rest of you do, but
I am not going to buy or rent any copy-protected
movies or music.
A quick check of the Titanic's IMDB pages reveals that Titanic grossed on the order of $600 USD.
Having said that let me suggest that movie grosses are often a poor indicator of movie quality.
"Disney Acquires Senator Chihiro, ..."?
Almost totally off-topic question, but I was wondering, does anyone in Germany (or perhaps German-speaking Austria, etc.) produce cartoons of some sort (i.e. a Germanic equivalent to "Anime", rather than dubbed versions of other countries' cartoons)?
(At the moment, German is the one language, other than English, that I can speak/understand more than a handful of words and phrases of...)
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...really?
I know that the storyboard is drawn before the sound is recorded, But the prospect of drawing in every frame of the entire animation before recording the sound is so mind-bogglingly ridiculous to me that I would certainly want to see proof if this is the case.
Moreover, even if the animation is done first, I'd bet my bottom dollar that the animation undergoes editing after the production of the soundtrack, in which case my point remains true, but modified: The original soundtrack is the only one that benefits from post-recording editing of the animation.
I've cited one source which backs me up in my series of posts here. Is it too much to ask you to do the same?