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Techies and Trekkies Unite!

emmetropia writes: "Startrek.com has announced that there is going going to be an Online Convention in early August. Every attendee will be able to make themselves look like any of your favorite ST species, Borg, Klingon, Vulcan, Terran, Ferengi, etc etc. The servers for the event are supposed to be able to handle up to 100,000 users, which would mean a rather large convention, let's just hope it doesn't suffer the same fate as Final Fantasy. With full 3D conventions here now, can a holodeck really be that far off?"

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  1. VMRL! :) by mlk · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ohh they were fun back in err what 97 :)

    Wonder round a badly made 3D world, where people would try to talk to you, but you all really longed for a chain saw...

    Hmm.... shame it costs to play with, that would be fun.

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  2. No info on the site by Triskaidekaphobia · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Are any of the "real" characters going to be there virtually? And, if so, how does one know whether one is chatting up the real Beverley or an imposter?

  3. techies and trekkies together??? by joe_bruin · · Score: 4, Funny

    mysql> select * from human where (human.trekkie=1 and human.techie=0);
    Empty set (0.00 sec)

    1. Re:techies and trekkies together??? by Thenomain · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My mother (and doesn't this just tag me as a generational geek) has been a Trekkie since the original series originally aired. (She was also a ballerina and beatnik, two nontechie professions.)

      And yet, even to this very day, she has problems programming the VCR or understanding that wacky "folders" concept on computer GUIs.

      Star Trek was originally more about social commentary (a brightly coloured version of the Twilight Zone) than about science. I always got the impression that Star Trek was originally sci-fi almost by accident, just to be different for television.

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    2. Re:techies and trekkies together??? by notsoanonymouscoward · · Score: 2

      I'd always thought ST was Sci-fi because it was ok to tackle really tough social and even political issues in the realm of scifi... it wasn't close enough to reality for people to call roddenbury a commie.

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  4. Oddly Enough by CathedralRulz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oddly enough, treckies chances of getting laid at this convention are identical to those of getting laid at a real convention.

    1. Re:Oddly Enough by Triskaidekaphobia · · Score: 4, Funny

      OpenSource the client and you'll soon change those odds.

      void DrawAvatar()
      {
      DrawBody();
      DrawFace();
      DrawHair();
      // DrawClothes();

      return;
      }

    2. Re:Oddly Enough by doooras · · Score: 2

      I'm sure nobody will believe this, but...

      I had sex while watching Voyager once.

      there was a strange background noise the whole time though... sounded something like "turn that damn thing off" but i didn't pay any attention to it. must have been my imagination...

    3. Re:Oddly Enough by kubrick · · Score: 2

      Oddly enough, treckies chances of getting laid at this convention are identical to those of getting laid at a real convention.

      But at a real convention, at least you can pay someone to.. ummmm... yes. So I've heard, anyway.

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    4. Re:Oddly Enough by Jerf · · Score: 2

      After those modifications, I'm afraid the previously-finite odds will be 2 to the power of Infinity minus one, an irrational number which only has application in Improbability Physics.

      Oops, wrong sci-fi series. We'll be restoring normalacy just as soon we are sure what is normal anyhow. Thank you!

    5. Re:Oddly Enough by streetlawyer · · Score: 2

      I hate to break the news to you that making your computer draw pictures of naked women is not actually the same thing as getting laid.

    6. Re:Oddly Enough by Muad'Dave · · Score: 2

      Not all people who like Star Trek consider themselves 'trekkies', nor do all trekkies necessarily think Star Trek is 'high brow'.

      I watch (and enjoy) Star Trek because it is so campy and overdone. Shatner is hilarious with his 'dramatic' pauses, and McCoy is just horrible by any definition. Add to it the recent revelation that Spock was drunk as a skunk most of the time, and that makes it all the more pathetic (and funny). I watch Star Trek for the same reasons I watch MST3K - campy, silly, and funny to laugh at.

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  5. No Linux/Mac interface!!! by strredwolf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    UGH! No Linux/Mac interface. Geesh, they should of just used the Quake 2 engine instead. You know that was portable.

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    # Canmephians for a better Linux Kernel
    $Stalag99{"URL"}="http://stalag99.net";
    1. Re:No Linux/Mac interface!!! by Bagheera · · Score: 2

      Exactly.... Funny that SciFi fans are often the "Early Adopters" of new technology - but organizations like Creation don't seem to grock anything but the Mass Market.

      Ah well. Another decent idea shot to hell by Greedy Bastids locked in the Wintendo world. I'll hold out for "The Real Thing" at World Con in San Jose...

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  6. Great! by fmaxwell · · Score: 3, Funny


    Rather than going to a traditional sci-fi convention where I would fail to get laid, I can attend an online convention and fail to get cybersex. Computers really have improved my life...

  7. This kinda takes the fun out of... by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 5, Funny

    One of my favorite ways to have fun. I dress up in my Jedi robes with my lightsaber, and crash the real convetions. Had a friend who would dress up as Solo too. Damn the trekkies would go apeshit. But then we took it too far, and my friend started in on someone dressed up as Scotty about how the Falcon could outrun that ugly looking enterprise... The second largest ST convetion riot in North America.

    Ouch.

    1. Re:This kinda takes the fun out of... by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 2

      I am unfamiliar with that phrase actually. I didn't have alot of friends in high school either (except for "Han").

      We also went to a few rennaisance festivals in our star trek costumes. Was fun to go up to the "elves" (WTF do elves have to do with a ren festival?) and do the "Live long and prosper" gesture. Then my friend would whip out the "tricorder" and start talking star trek mumbo jumbo. Was funny as hell. We were politely asked to leave, though we did manage to get them to refund our entrance fee.

    2. Re:This kinda takes the fun out of... by Tumbleweed · · Score: 2

      Well, yeah, and then you piss off _that_ guy by pointing out how the TARDIS can beat everything else. *shrug* What're ya gonna do? The grass is always greener...

    3. Re:This kinda takes the fun out of... by TheOnlyCoolTim · · Score: 2

      The Renaissance faire I work at (New York) has supposedly had an "away party" of Trekkies come to visit once a year, although in my 2 years I missed them the first year and they never showed the second year.

      One guy told me the story about how he went up to them and started screaming at them for violating the Prime Directive when he had worked so hard to establish himself as one of the natives and asking for their serial numbers to report them to Starfleet.

      I don't think they were ever kicked out or anything so it's probably a different faire.

      Tim

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    4. Re:This kinda takes the fun out of... by armb · · Score: 2

      > Well, yeah, and then you piss off _that_ guy by pointing out how the TARDIS can beat everything else.

      The Doctor's TARDIS had constant problems. Now if you're talking about a fully working Gallifreian TARDIS, yep - because anyone building anything that can compete is likely to find their planet timelooped before they start :-).

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    5. Re:This kinda takes the fun out of... by Tumbleweed · · Score: 2

      > The Doctor's TARDIS had constant problems.

      Mmm, yeah, like the Falcon was always in perfect working condition. :)

  8. My fondest dream by tbarrie · · Score: 3, Funny
    Every attendee will be able to make themselves look like any of your favorite ST species, Borg, Klingon, Vulcan, Terran, Ferengi,

    Finally, I can look like a Terran!

    1. Re:My fondest dream by Slashamatic · · Score: 2

      Hey, can I come as Captain Kirk's Hairpiece? It was certainly more sentient than what was under it.

  9. Woah. by Knoxvill3 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Was it just strange coincidence that I have caught this thread at 7 of 9 comments? I think not. =)

    And what about the the ability to handle 100,000 clients, is that really going to be enough? I mean, there are a lot of admitted trekkies in the world, but there are several more out there in the 'closet' which would see something this as a welcomed invite to attend a trekkie convention whereas they wouldn't have in RealLife(tm).

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  10. Hope for the best by Christopher+Bibbs · · Score: 4, Funny

    What's worse? Not getting cybersex or finding out you just did it with some guy pretending to be a Ferengi female. *shudder*

  11. Ask a silly question by yoz · · Score: 5, Funny

    With full 3D conventions here now, can a holodeck really be that far off?

    Yes.
    Next question?

  12. Have you ever noticed... by BLAG-blast · · Score: 2

    That out of all the space going races in the star trek universe, the race the American government most resembles is the Ferengi....

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    1. Re:Have you ever noticed... by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 2

      Strange, I always thought they were an even mix of romulans, ferengi and cardassian myself.

    2. Re:Have you ever noticed... by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 2

      Yeh, but that is very unfair to Shatner. He has the Super-Rug 9000, the most amazing piece of hair replacement technology to ever be developed. Most politicians are bald.

  13. Holofuture by TechFaerie · · Score: 3, Funny
    "Oh yes, I met my love at the HoloConference 2012. We both had the same avatar....it was love at first click. She gave me her IP address, and we got married the week later in VirtuVegas."

    Welcome to the future, ladies and gentlemen.

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    "To make apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe." -Carl Sagan
    1. Re:Holofuture by doooras · · Score: 2

      I hope that HoloConference is before December 22...

  14. Defcon & Star Trek Convention dates by sladelink · · Score: 3, Funny

    Anyone else notice that this ST convention is going to be on the same three days (August 2nd - 4th) in Las Vegas as Defcon X is going to be? Drunk techies and trekies in Las Vegas = biggest, nerdiest party ever.

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  15. Re:Utterly unsurprising by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 2

    Whoa! It's the fake Los Alamos PhD troll. I laughed when someone pointed out in a previous comment of yours, that you didn't even know which state Los Alamos was in.

    But anyway, back on topic. Star Trek was incredibly liberal for its day, showing on a primetime show, russians, asians, blacks and women all working together for a common (mostly) peaceful cause. So even if you are full of bullshit, it was a nice troll.

    Maybe if this level of trolling is too much for you, you can practice on something easier, like page-widening.

  16. This crap turns me off by rerunn · · Score: 5, Informative

    As an avid fan, I was interested and decided to sign up. I happened to mistakingly clicked on their privacy policy and I found this buried in the bottom:

    VCLLC may also sell, transfer or otherwise disclose user information, including PII, in connection with a corporate merger, consolidation, the sale of substantially all assets, or other fundamental corporate change.


    So, if they all of sudden become a porn spewing outfit, they have all those email addys and what they call "PII" (personally identifiable information -- like your address and phone number)at their disposal.

    Stupid internet.

  17. I'll take LiveCons Anyday by LittleGuy · · Score: 2

    C'mon, especially those who've attended a con Marriott Hunt Valley in Cockeysville, MD, a Virtual Con can't supply a comfortable seat at the Paddock Bar and the soothing waters of a well-attended jacuzzi.

    And that's probably the best thing about a con -- the afterhours partying and socializing (and, ahem, other activities between/among consenting adults ;P).

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    1. Re:I'll take LiveCons Anyday by mosch · · Score: 2
      Oh man, I was at that con, and it was OFF THE HOOK!

      BOTH of the chicks got laid!

  18. Re:Wow, blacks AND women! by Bnonn · · Score: 2
    • In fact, all leadership roles on Star Trek, old and new, are white males.
    Except for the black Captain Benjamin Sisko in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and the female Captain Kathryn Janeway in Star Trek: Voyager...
  19. I'd give anything... by Ziviyr · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...to see a small groups of Vorlons crash the party and start talking cryptic trash to the trekkies. :-)

    "How do you think this Convention is going to end?"

    "In fire."

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    Someone set us up the bomb, so shine we are!
    1. Re:I'd give anything... by LittleGuy · · Score: 2

      "How do you think this Convention is going to end?"

      "In fire."


      Well, those Vorlons throw one hell of a Dead Dog Party.

      (I'd make some additional "Million Year Picnic" allusion here, but I'm tired.)

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  20. Is your select right? by Wee · · Score: 2
    mysql> select * from human where (human.trekkie=1 and human.techie=0);
    Empty set (0.00 sec)

    You want all the people that are trekkies and techies, right? I'm maybe a little rusty, but wouldn't you want something like this:

    mysql> select * from human where (human.trekkie=1 and human.techie=1);

    That is, you want all rows where the records indicate that the subject is both a trekkie and a techie? Or maybe it'd be more clear if you had two columns like this:

    CREATE TABLE human (
    id INT(11) NOT NULL AUTO_INCREMENT,
    name VARCHAR(255) NOT NULL,
    trekkie ENUM('YES','NO') DEFAULT 'NO',
    techie ENUM('YES','NO') DEFAULT 'NO'
    );

    Then you could say:

    mysql> select * from human where (human.trekkie='YES' and human.techie='YES');

    Which is the same thing, I guess. Maybe. I'm not sure. Anyway, this got much too geeky...

    -B

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  21. What the heck?!? by Moridineas · · Score: 4, Funny

    With full 3D conventions here now, can a holodeck really be that far off?

    Is it some unofficial rule that the last sentence in a story (either of the submitter or the posters making) has to be incredibly banal and idiotic?? This one about takes the cake...yeesh.

  22. Re:Utterly unsurprising by Bnonn · · Score: 2
    If you'd like to actually turn this into a debate, Dr Troll Biscuit, I'd be happy to oblige. First let me outline my points:
    • the highest-ranking female seen to date in Star Trek is Captain Kathryn Janeway, the lead character in Star Trek: Voyager
    • if you'd like to complain about "servitude", you should note that everyone is in a position of servitude to the captain
    • "captain" is only a sexually-charged word if you choose to make it so for your own disingenuous purposes; it has been a rank since at least the 1700s
    • Riker is never portrayed as predatory in my recollection. Women on the "new" show you refer to, Star Trek: The Next Generation which began airing in 1988 (from memory; I could be a year or two off), are presented in positions of authority and importance: Dr Beverly Crusher, the ship's chief medical officer; Lt Tasha Yar (since deceased on the show), the chief security officer for the first season or so; and Deanna Troi, the ship's counsellor who is always on the bridge
    • techies comprise only a small percentage of Star Trek's total viewership and fan base
    • you should indeed be modded down, for you are a troll. However, since other people less informed than myself may believe you (and obviously have, since you've been modded insightful (good troll btw)), I am replying to set the facts straight.
    I'd be glad to discuss in greater depth any or all of the Star Trek programs, should you choose to rise to the bait.
  23. Re:Wow, blacks AND women! by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 2

    Um, don't remember seeing any whips, to be honest.

    Cap. Janeway was supposedly a woman, though some are still demanding a chromosome test. The black woman was a commisioned officer, as opposed to the asian and russian who were both ensigns iirc. And despite how you like to troll it up, a communications specialist on a military ship is anything but a "receptionist". Not that you'd know much about that. As for a starship pilot being a "chauffeur"... oh well. You say the show was misogynistic, and yet it appears to be you that is the man-hater. Me, I've always sort of thought that everyone has only ever been as far away from the other sex as a few gene expressions taking place the first couple days after conception. I totally accept the fact that both men and women (like yourself) are totally fucked up. Funny, but you're just another part of the problem you hate so much. Haha.

    The new show:
    Geordi Laforge was black, last time I noticed. Cap. Sisko was black. I seem to remember more than a few female admirals too, one show or another.

  24. 100,000 Losers In One Place.. by Bowie+J.+Poag · · Score: 2



    Sounds like a prime opportunity to test out those miniature tactical nukes our government is whispering about. Whoever it doesn't kill, it sterilizes -- Something that would allow us to forget the past as well as preventing this sort of thing from happening in the future.

    Sounds like a good deal to me.

    Cheers,

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  25. Re:Wow, blacks AND women! by Carmody · · Score: 2

    In fact, all leadership roles on Star Trek, old and new, are white males.

    Who is the silly, silly person?
    Besides sisko and janeway, there were lots of female admirals, and Captain Sulu, and lots of others.

    And, a digression: Why do we use the phrase "white women" but for the other gender people say "white males." Like they are some other species?

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  26. Re:Terran? by catsidhe · · Score: 2, Funny

    Actually, the Klingon word for human is tera'ngan, or something similar.

    ...oh god, did I just say that? Did I really just admit to knowing some tlhIngan Hol?

    My life is so sad and empty.

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  27. Re:Utterly unsurprising by t0qer · · Score: 2

    Hehe, while we're on the subject of high ranking female ST officers, a few you missed are..

    7of9, Tactical
    Lt. Torrez, Engineering
    Vulcan Science officer on Enterprise

    And the female Admerial everyone keeps reffering too, she was in the TNG episode with the scorpions that buried in the back of your neck and took over your mind.

  28. Hahaha. by Gannoc · · Score: 2


    They're going to have to make the avatars quite a bit more chubby if they're going to make it seem like a real convention.

  29. no fun by peter303 · · Score: 2

    The pupose of conventions is to bring strange people together. Onine is no fun.

  30. Re:Utterly unsurprising by erpbridge · · Score: 2

    Her name is Nora Satie, and she was also in a later episode, "The Drumhead", where she went on a witch hunt onboard Enterprise.

  31. your math is wrong (basic infinite math) by hawk · · Score: 2
    >I'm afraid the previously-finite odds will be 2
    >to the power of Infinity minus one, an irrational number


    No. Aleph(0) is the infinity of the integers. Aleph(1) is the infinity of the continuum.


    Aleph(i)=2**Aleph(i-1)
    Aleph(i)+Aleph(j)=Aleph( Max(i,j))
    Aleph(i)*Aleph(j)=Aleph(Max(i,j))


    And so forth. So 2^infinity-1 = infinity, where "infinity" is whichever infinity you were talking about in the first place.


    This is basic transfinite arithmetic,


    hawk, who learned this directly from Halmos
    (yes, *that* Halmos)

    1. Re:your math is wrong (basic infinite math) by Jerf · · Score: 2

      You're right in the real world.

      My quote is from "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy". In it, one of the main sci-fi devices the author postulates is an "improbability field", which can make events of various improbabilities occur. This makes for a very, very wacky Universe, which was the main point of the book series. (It took me many years to realize that once you accept the Improbability Field, the wackiness of that universe inevitably follows, meaning that as humourous as The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is, it's actually hard-core sci-fi.)

      To handle the Improbability fields, in particular the Infinite Improbability Field generated by one of the main ships featured in the novels, improbability mathematics exists. In that mathematics, "two to the power of infinity minus one" has some meaning, undefined because A: We probably wouldn't understand it and B: Who really cares? (Personally, I think Douglas Adams just got lucky in meeting the criterion for hard sci-fi; math and tech don't much figure into the stories.)

      So, having thoroughly explained and ruined the joke, that's where my post came from. You seem earnest and honest, so I'll give you a similar explanation. ;-)

    2. Re:your math is wrong (basic infinite math) by hawk · · Score: 2
      I remember that drive . . . but it's been, ummm, well, let's not go there :)


      I'm surprised I didn't catch the math error given when I read it :)


      hawk

  32. Re:Utterly unsurprising by Artifex · · Score: 2

    What you say rings true; however, I just saw a one-off magazine down at Fry's that touted that it was "Timeless Star Trek." There were three captains on the cover.

    Can you guess which three?

    Kirk, Picard, and... Archer?

    Ugh. Not only does the target market appear to be misogynist, there's probably also racism involved. Janeway and Sisko each have more "right" to be on the cover than Archer. No offense to the actor who plays Archer, but the fewest people seem to like his show or his character.

    But God help us if anyone but white guys are on that cover, right? The market segmentation seems clearer if you can assume that publisher tested covers in focus groups before picking one, and that the artist didn't just say "I don't know how to draw those two" or "I don't know who they are."

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