EFF Releases "The Tinseltown Club"

Seth Schoen writes: "Sing along, kids! EFF is debuting the EFF Action Center with a song produced by EFF and friends -- the Tinsel Town Club Song (a parody of the "Mickey Mouse Club Song"). "Tinseltown Club" makes fun of Disney for its support of legislation which takes away your rights. There's also an MP3 version (with better sound quality) for those who can't see the Flash animation, and we expect to make several other formats available soon. To help save bandwidth, we are encouraging listeners to share the song on peer-to-peer networks." Update: Seth has written in with some mirrors you can try, I've posted his note in the story.. Seth says:

"Please try P2P networks first, before going to an HTTP site! The song and animation are definitely out there on the P2P networks by now.

For those who have BitTorrent, use http://bittorrent.theory.org:8080/20020528_eff_tinseltown_club.mp3

For those who use http, get The MP3 from here.

Please go easy on action.eff.org (where the Flash animation is posted) and please do set up and publicize your own mirrors.

• Seth"

Comments

The top 6 Reasons Americans Suck

[DonkeyHote]

1. You americans are the biggest terrorist nation that uses your influence to
bully the other nations into accepting your terrorist agenda.

2. You americans are fat and lazy, you use uneducated third world contries to
generate many of your industrial goods, then cry when other countries like china
have minor human right violations.

3. You americans have no sense of class, with news media covering such trivial
topics as the murder of a slut intern it's no wonder the american public is such
a bunch of brainwashed morons.

4. You americans lack any sense of civic duty, you let your government do what it
wants then complain when the shit hits the fan.

5. Americans waste more resources than any other nation.

6. You were stupid enough to let Bush take the presidency.

"The reason we start a war is to fight a war, win a war, thereby causing no more war!"

Re:The top 6 Reasons Americans Suck

[Anonymous Coward]

But we Americans don't post blatant trolls.
A MESSAGE TO TROLLS IN AMERICA: YOU ARE TERRORISTS. MAKE ME A SANDWICH.


attack of the lameness filter. please ignore this message.

Re:The top 6 Reasons Americans Suck

[Anonymous Coward]

OK... #6 is a pretty good point... but those OTHERS are just plain mean *sniff*...

Re:The top 6 Reasons Americans Suck

[ElCagado]

OK... #6 is a pretty good point... but those OTHERS are just plain mean *sniff*... get over it and loose some weight you porky AC bitch

Re:The top 6 Reasons Americans Suck

[Anonymous Coward]

I see. Americans suck because we have it better than most countries. *Nods* I can understand that attitude. I get jealous sometimes too.

Personally, I'm glad that we have to deal with the problems you mentioned, because it's millions of times better than dealing with suicide bombers and a shitty economy.

I sure am glad I'm an American, it sure beats having a funny accent and hating other people for silly reasons. :)

Re:The top 6 Reasons Americans Suck

[Anonymous Coward]

The real irony is that y'all actually believe you've got it better that most countries...

No suicide bombers? Um, no. Just not many, but the ones you have sure don't muck around... Shitty economy? Um, strong financially, but look at the world cost. Oh wait, money IS everything isn't it?

And yeah, the American accent is the non-funny one. Unless you're one of the 5.9 or so Billion people who aren't American.

An mp3 version

[Anonymous Coward]

Not to sound like a total troll, but would it kill them to have an ogg vorbis version? It's quite good, and now even supported by Winamp by default.

Re:An mp3 version

[Anonymous Coward]

why not convert the mp3 yourself??

Re:An mp3 version

[Anonymous Coward]

A. Still need to use mp3 tools.

B. Quality loss going from one lossy format to another

Re:An mp3 version

[Warped-Reality]

why not convert the mp3 yourself??

Hmm... let's see here... converting a lossy format to another lossy format... can anyone say, "Massive Quality Loss"?

Re:An mp3 version

[morgajel]

since when has slashdot been about quality?:)

I hope

[gazbo]

they get sued for copyright infringement.

Re:I hope

[Fester213]

So do I. They'd be just the people to sue and establish more fair use precedent.

Re:I hope

[ryants]

Except that parody is still a fairly well protected "fair use"...

for now.

hard to grab flash

[mr_burns]

I tried to grab the flash file to share on gnutella, but eff.org keeps denying me when I use wget or curl (grabbed url from page source).

Is there a URL where we can grab it so we can spread the word?

Re:hard to grab flash

[ElCagado]

here is something you can grab and spread

Re:hard to grab flash

[Yottabyte84]

`wget http://action.eff.org/tinseltown/tinsel.swf` works for me. REALLY slow (350bps) because of /. but it works...

Re:hard to grab flash

[zerocool^]

For reference, when you do things like this, put them on MP3.com a couple of days before they go through so that they appear on MP3.com (it takes a few days to validate). Then you can stream the mp3 (low or hi bandwidth), and bandwidth becomes their problem, not yours.

~Will

Early Post!

[Anonymous Coward]

This early post for Aura Lee!

When the blackbird in the spring,
On the willow tree,
Sat and rocked, I heard him sing,
Singing Aura Lee
Aura Lee, Aura Lee,
Maid of golden hair;
Sunshine came along with thee,
And swallows in the air.
Chorus

In thy blush the rose was born,
Music when you spake,
Through thine azure eye the morn,
Sparkling seemed to break.
Aura Lee, Aura Lee,
Bird of crimson wing,
Never song have sung to me,
In that sweet spring.
Chorus

Aura Lee! The bird may flee,
The willows golden hair
Swing through winter fitfully,
On the stormy air.
Yet if thy blue eyes I see,
Gloom will soon depart;
For to me, sweet Aura Lee
Is sunshine through the heart.
Chorus

When the mistletoe was green,
Midst the winter's snows,
Sunshine in thy face was seen,
Kissing lips of rose.
Aura Lee, Aura Lee,
Take my golden ring;
Love and light return with thee,
And swallows with the spring.
Chorus

Chorus: Aura Lee, Aura Lee,
Maid of golden hair;
Sunshine came along with three,
And swallows in the air.

at least a download

[Papa Legba]

they thought about the sound aspect but dammnit people want to see the video also.For someone that was concerned about using up to much bandwidth they could have made a format for download so that we could see it offline. I guess that would have taken planning and forsight. Sigh... guess I will sit here and see if it ever loads. 3 minutes to slashdot effect and counting...

Hey here is a thought, I got ten bucks that says we never see this on total request live...

Re:at least a download

[Phlog]

Yes - you can view this offline. If you can manage to get this to download from their site, you can view the page source, go to the URL of the file (http://action.eff.org/tinseltown/tinsel.swf), then when it finishes downloading, go to File > Save As... (this should work in any browser, I believe..) and then save it to a safe place on your hard disk. Then, when you want to view it, open up your browser, and go to File > Open File...

Of course, if you can't get a connection (as I can't as of this writing), you're out of luck - but that's just how the Internet is structured.. it doesn't matter that this is Flash - if it were any other format, you'd still have to download it initially.

Unfortunately, Flash isn't Free Software (free as in speech and as in GNU). So, I can view Flash animations on this computer (x86, running GNU/Linux), but not on my Powerbook, which also runs GNU/Linux.. Macromedia only releases Flash for *Nix clones as an x86 binary, which cuts out all non-x86 hardware users running an alternate Operating System (or those who don't wish to run non-Free Software).

Hope you enjoyed my mini-rant right there.

-Phlog

sigh

[BilldaCat]

this is just sad. the last thing that's going to convince me disney is evil is a bunch of geeks singing, badly at that.

Re:sigh

[Dread_ed]

Hey man!!! EFF YOU and EFF Disney too!!!

slashdot EFF!

[Anonymous Coward]

What better way for EFF to spend my contribution than paying for the bandwidth bill from the slashdot effect!

EFF is full of wingnuts

[Anonymous Coward]

Personal website of an EFF wingnut

It would have been far mor entertaining if...

[DonkeyHote]

The EFF should have commissioned the work from Wesley Willis, it would have been far more entertaining. And why the hell Isn't it available in .ogg?

Rock over london, Rock on chicago!

Re:It would have been far mor entertaining if...

[Anonymous Coward]

Rock n Roll McDonald's!

Who was it that sang that?

Peer to peer?

[feloneous cat]

What if you have no peer?

You FAT LAZY fucking American

[DonkeyHote]

I hope god shits on your sandwich.

Re:You FAT LAZY fucking American

[Anonymous Coward]

Mmmmmmm... scatwich... Oh wait, that's what those "fat lazy japs" are into, right? My bad.

Re:You FAT LAZY fucking American

[Anonymous Cowrad]

Ezekiel 43:2.6:

"and the Lord did see that AC fuckwads were miserable bags of shite, and the Lord did lay foul turd upon the sammiches of all the AC scum in all the continents, and also those who were out to sea, and the Lord did smile merrily, as Lords are often wont to do."

Re:You FAT LAZY fucking American

[ElCagado]

shitwich goes well with piss broth soup. oh yeah brap brap brap brap blllllarppppp *eyes begin to water* brrrrrap plop

Re:You FAT LAZY fucking American

[Anonymous Coward]

I guess fat is relative. I have no sympathy for all malnourished fucking third worlders.

Whose Floating Head?

[GeekLife.com]

I hate to be picky and point out spelling errors (ok, no I don't), but shouldn't it be fairly easy to cut and paste the contributor's name into the "dept." text area? Especially if there's any chance you might mispell it?

I realize the dept. area is just a throw-away gag, but it still affects the quality of the site when such a simple mistake is made.

This is Hilarious!

[Anonymous Coward]

THis is Hilarious, I just hope that the EFF doesn't loose it's credibility as a result of this hilarious piece of work! They really should be acting more mature when it comes to serious matters such as these. Think about it, do we really want them to represent us with such works of art?

EFF songs - Free software song

[andersbd]

I unable to play Stallman singing " Free Software song ". Does anyone have a link to a music file of *him* singing it in another music format (ogg/mp3)?

Re:EFF songs - Free software song

[Anonymous Coward]

Fuck me, that's bad!

1 spoof advertisment with that noise on it and Windows XP sales will go through the roof.

And if that's a Bulgarian dance tune, please don't ever make me listen to a Bulgarian funeral dirge!

Re:EFF songs - Free software song

[Rob Malda on]

I believe it was at here



links are not allowed


Use the lube, Luke!

Re:EFF songs - Free software song

[Anonymous Coward]

It's posted to alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.

Subject = Free Software Song.

Re:EFF songs - Free software song

[Istealmymusic]

Hint: decode the au into a wav, and use LAME to make an MP3. At least that's what I did.

Re:EFF songs - Free software song

[el_nino]

Try searching for "why cooperation with rms is impossible" on your favourite p2p service.

Re:EFF songs - Free software song

[mirko]

Try here :
http://www.gnuart.net/data/musique/Tompox/AmoureTo ujoure/FreeSoftware.zip...
It's a remix using the original sound file.

A non-profit has money to waste on this?

[TRoLLaXoR]

"Get some priorities."

I know who not to donate money to next time.

A good example of a legitimate use of Peer-to-Peer

[cardshark2001]

The EFF is making a good statement here, without even issuing a statement.

1. Parodies are be protected speech, and the same content that is legal in "traditional" media should be legal on the internet.

2. Disney really sucks

3. Peer-to-Peer file-sharing software is not merely for eypatch wearing, parrot on their shoulder types. People actually use it legitimately.

Why not make another statement?

[Anonymous Coward]

4. We don't need to use a license restricted format (mp3) when there's a better format available freely (ogg)

Re:Why not make another statement?

[Anonymous Coward]

5. Most people on P2P wouldn't know how to play "Tinsel Town Club Song.ogg," so they wouldn't bother downloading it. And that's assuming the P2P client even shows it in the first place (many of them only register results from a few common file formats by default).
6. Making an Ogg from the MP3 instead of the original recording negates any quality benefits.

Re:Why not make another statement?

[Anonymous Coward]

5. Winamp 2.80+ (which all winamp users have been advised to upgrade to due to a security bug) includes ogg vorbis support by default. Other players such as Sonique also support it. People that are searching for "Tinsel Town Club Song" are probably more "in the know" anyway.

6. Who said anything about doing that? Make an ogg from the original, likely how they made an mp3 from the original. It's not hard.

Re:Why not make another statement?

[iomud]

also the latest version of winamp has the ogg plugin out of the box.

Re:Why not make another statement?

[JungleBoy]

This is gonna hurt, I just know it. But here is the oggification of it!

EFF-Tinseltown_Club.ogg

Why do I think that I'm going to regret doing this.
:S

-The JungleBoy

Re:Why not make another statement?

[thesolo]

I've mirrored JungleBoy's Ogg version, to help lessen the load on his server. (Hope you don't mind! If you do for some reason, email me.)

You can all grab it at:
http://www.realfx.com/EFF-Tinseltown_Club.ogg

It is 1 meg in size; I have enough bandwidth for the /. community, but please don't crosspost the link, thanks. And be sure to tell your friends about it!

Seriously, I am really impressed by this effort, plus the quality of the song is just excellent. Go EFF! Also, if you haven't already, Join or Donate to the EFF!

Re:Why not make another statement?

[aidoneus]

I've added a mirror to it to my site as well. You can grab it from my site.

Here's to the first real test of my site! :)

-Jason

Re:Why not make another statement?

[Ren Bucholz]

Thanks for doing this! We have a very small staff and just didn't have the bandwidth to release multiple formats right out of the gate. We are very happy to have this in as many formats as possible. Thanks again!

Mirror

[Kizzle]

Since most articles are /.ed as soon as they are posted. I think a great feature for subscribers would be a mirror to each article that is hosted on slashdot.

Re:Mirror

[Anonymous Coward]

and how do you propose we set that up? The person who submits the story is responsible for mirroring it, and consequently having all of their bandwidth drained?

What's brown sugar made out of?

[Anonymous Coward]

at .3 KB/s i'm going to guess i'm not the only person trying to download the mp3 right now.

Re:What's brown sugar made out of?

[SWTP]

Not alone! 764 Bytes a second and falling... 746 Bytes a second and falling...

Already in mp3 format, huh?

[guttentag]

So do you think the RIAA would be stupid enough to come after me if I distribute this song on a Napster-like system?

Re:Already in mp3 format, huh?

[Anonymous Coward]

"we are encouraging listeners to share the song on peer-to-peer networks." Wow. Usually people don't read the item, but read the F-ing paragraph about the item.

Re:Already in mp3 format, huh?

[glitch!]

So do you think the RIAA would be stupid enough to come after me if I distribute this song on a Napster-like system?

Why not? After all, everyone knows that MP3's are illegal. And [1] this song is copyrighted, so you would be "guilty of distributing copyrighted material" [2]. So maybe we shouldn't be surprised if the RIAA did want to get involved... [3]

[1] Every creative work has an automatic copyright, and I presume that EFF has not made a point of abandoning their copyright to the public domain. AFAIK, all GNU software is copyrighted, for instance.

[2] Forget that the copyright holder may authorize anyone and everyone to distribute their work... The point is that "people are distributing copyrighted material"! Oh, the humanity! (No, make that stupidity.)

[3] Sometimes I wonder if it will someday be a crime for me to distribute my OWN copyrighted material...

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Yup

[Kevbo]

Would you rather be represented by humorless executives?

Re:Yup

[windex]

That's who we're represented by now...

Why do you hate the children?

[trollbot]

Disney are just trying to protect their income so that they can continue their God given work of creating dreams for the children. Why are geeks so eager to make this a crime? Don't any of you remember watching such Disney classics as 'The Goonies' as a child? Do any of you have children? What do they think of Disney?

Re:Why do you hate the children?

[Anonymous Coward]

If Eisner thought there was money to be made pimping small fragile boys to Catholic priests, there'd be a new division at Disney formed overnight. It's not about the children, it's about the money, stupid.

Re:Why do you hate the children?

[SWTP]

Sorry the Goonies was done by Warner Studios AKA Weard Brohers. ;)

Thank goodness dizzy can only ad english and some music and no edititing to Hayao Miyazaki films or I would be ticked!

And The Purpose Is What?

[org.earth.Citizen]

Does anyone think after hearing this parody, Disney will have some epic crisis of conscience and immediately reverse its support of anti-freedom legislation?

Seems like the time and effort behind this would be better spent mailing/e-mailing/snail-mailing/phoning legislators to voice your opposition.

Re:And The Purpose Is What?

[Anonymous Coward]

It's called culturejamming or cultureh4x0ring, depending on your circle.

Re:And The Purpose Is What?

[Paradise Pete]

The point is to produce something that catches the interest of people who are otherwise completely unaware of its message. Once those people start questioning this stuff it's all over.

Huh?

[A. Lynch]

No Ogg format?

Re:Huh?

[thesolo]

JungleBoy was nice enough to convert the MP3 to Ogg. You can click on that comment link (or scroll up) and grab a version from his server.

Alternatively, you can also grab a copy that I mirrored here:
http://www.realfx.com/EFF-Tinseltown_Club.ogg

Be sure to spread this around on P2P networks!

Ramifications - EFF takes a real stand?

[Anonymous Coward]

Okay - now that the EFF has made their opinions known, rather than hiding behind the shield of anonymity that is associated with a law firm..

What's not to stop the media conglomorates from attacking the release of the song? Wierd Al Yankovic had similar problems in the early eighties, if my memory serves me correctly. Are they (eff) intentionally hoping to bring litigation to bear? They must think they can defeat specific articles of some copyright law if this is the case.. they wouldn't put their own organization in jeopardy, certainly..

WTF are they up to? Self promotion? That I doubt - these folks seem too non-commercial for that. Are they just having fun? Oh my god.

Let's analyze the crud out of it! Yay! Go!

Jesus was a crapflooder

[DonkeyHote]

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[YourMissionForToday]

For more information, please see my bio page. Thanks and may God bless!

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[Anonymous Coward]

I need a shower

BitTorrent

[Anonymous Coward]

If they had used BitTorrent to host the file, their bandwidth problem would be solved (or at least improved).

I thought EFF were against MP3s?

[RatFink100]

Software patents?

Very interesting

[Second_Derivative]

Odd that the EFF would use the proprietary Flash format.

(someone shoot the lameness filter please. Cheers. *fears for all those CPU cycles burned doing gzip compression*)

Re:Very interesting

[TheGreenKnight]

Note: SWF is an open, nonproprietary format....for now

Listen up

[Anonymous Coward]

I know someone has this. I also know that nobody is sharing this. Please get Gnucleus if you are using Win32. Gnucleus is open source, no spyware, gnutella, decentralised, peer-to-peer, free, no ads, works, fast, multi-source downloads, file hashing, not audiogalaxy.

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saving bandwidth?

[Rombuu]

To help save bandwidth, we are encouraging listeners to share the song on peer-to-peer networks

Huh? There is no bandwidth saved. What they mean is, we want to shift the cost of distributing this thing to other people.

Re:saving bandwidth?

[Anonymous Coward]

Well, actually, if you were connected to someone closer, wouldn't you be saving bandwidth? You'd be using less of it anyway. I don't know if any of the current P2P implementations are sophisticated enough to do that yet, though.

Re:saving bandwidth?

[Istealmymusic]

Audiogalaxy claims locate nearest peers:

Bandwidth Reductions: Audiogalaxy servers automatically choose the closest person who has the file you want. This makes life easier for network admins at corporations, colleges, and ISPs by reducing external bandwidth usage

Sadly, RIAA's muscle may force Audiogalaxy's amazing technology (made possible by it's 430 central servers) into oblivion.

Re:saving bandwidth?

[NanoGator]

"What they mean is, we want to shift the cost of distributing this thing to other people."

It's saving bandwidth the limited bandwidth that their site has. The cost isn't shifted, it's dispersed. It doesn't cost me anything to constantly upload a song on that plan that I'm on.

Re:saving bandwidth?

[Anonymous Coward]

Only if you define "closer" as being "fewer hops".

jesus built my hotrod

[ElCagado]

it's a love affair. mainly jesus and my hotrod

Re:jesus built my hotrod

[Roto-Rooter Man]

yeah fuck it

Hypocrisy Alert!

[Aquaman616]

Hmmm... so Flash is a bad evil tool of the devil (as spouted here at Slashdot) but when the EFF uses it, no problem? Come on.

The toon simply proves the point that the SWF format is the best way to do such cartoons and interactivity on the web. Why won't the open source community embrace it and make a good GUI editor for it? While cool and all, I'm simply not able to make such a cartoon with free software. Unless the EFF is hiding some cool new tool from us they are using some non-free proprietary software to make that SWF, period.

Re:Hypocrisy Alert!

[_xeno_]

Oh well, I'll have to use my moderator point elsewhere.

[S]o Flash is a bad evil tool of the devil (as spouted here at Slashdot) but when the EFF uses it, no problem?

Flash is a bad evil tool of the devil when used in place of HTML or used in place of other, more accessible, standards. In this case, Flash is being used to make what is in essence a movie. When knowingly browsing to a movie, I am willing to accept that the movie might require a plugin in order to be successfully viewed.

What I hate and find annoying is when Flash is used in place of HTML or other more accessible means. If Slashdot's front page were a large Flash animation, then it would be an annoying tool of the devil. If Flash were used for the topic icons, it would be another misuse. But if Flash were used for a cute little animation that is the basis for a text story, that's an appopriate use of Flash.

Also, don't forget that there is no entity known as Slashdot. Some people like Flash, others do not.

I personally hate Flash when used where simple html and images would have done since Flash sometimes causes my browser to crash and generally slows down the rendering of the browser page. But when it is used to create an animation with sound, I don't mind it - as long as I am aware of that fact before loading the page.

This is just another right-tool-for-the-job issue, and in this case, the EFF is using the right tool for the job they wish to do.

Re:Hypocrisy Alert!

[tempest303]

Hmmm... so Flash is a bad evil tool of the devil (as spouted here at Slashdot) but when the EFF uses it, no problem? Come on.

It's not as sensational *cough*karmawhore*cough* as you're making it sound. The FS/OSS community tends not to like Flash not because it's "a bad evil tool" but because it's TERRIBLY OVERUSED. 90% of Flash stuff SHOULD NOT be in Flash. The last 10% is what it should be used for: animation! The EFF are in this 10% with this cartoon, and thus it is not hypocritical.

Re:Hypocrisy Alert!

[DLWormwood]

90% of Flash stuff SHOULD NOT be in Flash.

This sounds about right to NOT blame Flash for the misuse. I believe your typical Fortune file says as much...

"90% of anything is crap"

Re:Hypocrisy Alert!

[SWTP]

I have wonder why no tools that use vector graphic animation are avaiable? A lot of it is built into the GUI of windoze and even the 16 bit pile of junk found in 95-98-ME can do a fare job. Draw on a back screen and flip or blit copy it to the front.

Problem is these days just trying to come up with somthing get you hamered with 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 halt or sue letters.

The best so far I have seen of Flash were the Elmo Ardvark series, Thugs on Film and the Looney Toon's Esp the Porkey Pig Tech support and "Bug the Duck" ones.

Re:Hypocrisy Alert!

[damiam]

This is the EFF, not the FSF. As far as I know, the EFF does not have a vendetta against non-free software.

Priority 1, Crapflood

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link to it!

[macsox]

userland's dave winer has an image you can use to link to the animation from your own website.

(i humbly admit that i made it. i am biased.)

Mirror of the MP3

[Turmio]

Kind of stupid to link an MP3 on Slashdot front page. I still managed to grab it after a couple of reconnect attempts.

Download here: http://shakti.tky.hut.fi/slashdot/effmp3

Re:Mirror of the MP3

[unsinged int]

Thanks man. Grabbed it at 100 kbps. NICE.

Glad i've never donated

[Anonymous Coward]

Well all I can say is that i'm glad I came to my senses and didn't send the money to the EFF. I had a feeling they were nothing more than immature people who would foolishly spend away money in a way that only influences people who already believe in the cause.

Try spending money on lobbying, its much more effective than songs that make a 10 year old laugh.

SPEAKING OF MALNOURISHED...

[ElCagado]

have you heard about Evil Knievels latest stunt? he is going to run across ethiopia with a chicken tied on his back. sssss booom bahhh

Direct your anger to TIME WARNER!

[newerbob]

You should be angry at TIME WARNER, a true monopoly that wants to control every inch of the "entertainment food chain" from the movie studios to the set-top-box.

People who are "served" by Warner digital cable are paying more $$$ than ever before for poorer service. (And each TV now needs its own Set Top Box.)

AOL TIME Warner owns the magazines you read, the movie studios, movie theatres, 50% of internet users and nearly half of the cable TV customers.

It seems like AOL Time Warner has the EFF in their pocket, too! They convinced the EFF to attack poor Disney, which is struggling to compete in the shadow of the massivce AOL Time Warner monopoly.

Re:Direct your anger to TIME WARNER!

[Anonymous Coward]

I work at AOL-TW as a Cable Tech. YOu only need a set-top box for each TV if you're paying for Premium Movie Channels, and if you're not, then it's only an extra $5/month.

Re:Direct your anger to TIME WARNER!

[newerbob]

Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire!

If you want to receive a digital signal, you need a box for each TV set.

Re:Direct your anger to TIME WARNER!

[windex]

You, sir, are a moron.

A standard television is analog. The digital signal must be processed back into analog.

Thus, you must have the box for each TV set receiving a digital signal because your TV can't translate it itself.

Digital cable is actually poorer quality than normal cable, there is a loss (mostly in audio, ever notice how high your volume has to be with a digital convertor compared to analog?). Because of the poorer quality, and the fact its basically just a movie stream, it has to be decoded to be displayed.

AOL Time Warner is not charging me too much for service, anyway. I'm quite happy with their service in the specific market of Cable Television. I'm not so happy that they sell complete crap as Movies, Music, and Dialup internet access, but hey.. What else do I do, switch from one monopoly (cable television) to another (direct tv)? Have you ever used the program guide on DTV? Jesus, at that point you tossing more cash out the window for TV guide in addition to the service.

Re:Direct your anger to TIME WARNER!

[Com2Kid]

If you want to receive a digital signal, you need a box for each TV set.



No shit, called your TV not being able to proccess MPEG2 signals, it needs to be decoded somehow. Yeesh. It is called Digital Cable for a reason (and not just because the video quality stinks. . . .).

Re:Direct your anger to TIME WARNER!

[uncoveror]

I agree that Time-Warner AOL blows, but "poor Disney"?
They are a bunch of thugs that harass day care centers and schools for painting Mickey on the wall without coughing up the moolah! I sure hope the supreme court overturns the Sonny Bono copyright extension so Mickey Mouse does go public domain. Then Michael Eisner can't harass day care centers or schools anymore.

Well, um . . . Re:And The Purpose Is What?

[StefanJ]

. . . unless it's changed since this morning, doesn't the last frame invite viewers to find out what they can do?

The cartoon is motivating people to act.

It's propaganda

[Paul the Bold]

"WTF are they up to?" It's propaganda; they are making a complex and boring issue palatable to the average person. This kind of campaign is common (I hate to bring it up, but we've all received a Chick tract). It's not an in-depth coverage of the topic, it's an attention grabber.

I sent this link to my sisters, who have taken no interest in this issue at all. I am know that the stupid cartoon and song will make them laugh, but the confrontational lyrics should make them think. (I'm just glad I sent it to them yesterday.)

For eDonkey

[Noobie]

eDonkey users try this: ed2k://|file|20020528_eff_tinseltown_club.mp3|1875 400|7d4c0b5d11e81ef532048116e7c6077d|">20020528 _eff_tinseltown_club.mp3 .

Irony

[AirLace]

The EFF, a foundation created to defend the technological freedoms and rights of individuals around the world, is promoting the use of Macromedia Flash, the success of which will fill the coffers of a pro-DMCA company at the expense of open W3C standards. The irony is sweet and poignant.

I mean, they don't have to be Free Software fanatics or anything, but I do expect the EFF to at least make a token effort at not squandering money, and keeping true to their beliefs. Surely the $1000 licensing fee for Macromedia Flash plus time spend developing the animation could have been better employed to defend peoples' rights in the real world, rather than promoting a proprietary plugin that I can't even see. I mean, the total amount I have donated to the EFF in the past is probably less than $1000, and I'd consider myself one of their more pecunative sponsorors.

Self-declared "pragmatists" may claim that Flash is the most widespread, or that it is the 'best', but he is a fool who denies that freedom from vendor lock-in and the goals of the EFF do not go hand in hand. I'll be contacting them directly over the next few days; the only right thing for them to do is to remove the proprietary Flash animation from their site.

Re:Irony

[damiam]

I seriously doubt the EFF actually bought a copy of Flash (which, by the way, doesn't cost $1,000). Most likely someone with way too much free time who already owned their own copy of Flash made this, and it didn't cost the EFF anything. And no, the "only right thing for them to do" is not to take it down. Having that animation on their site harms no one and there's no reason to take it down just because there are some fanatics out there who can't install a Flash player.

And please tell us, what format would you have done this animation in? SVG has no audio support and isn't supported by any major browser (no, the rare svg-enabled Mozilla build does not count as a major browser). Java is bloated, slow, difficult to do animations with, and also somewhat proprietary. AVI and MPEG aren't at all suited for animation, and would result in huge file sizes and lower quality. There are no suitable open source formats available, so sometimes one must use a proprietary program.

Re:Irony

[bwalling]

The EFF, a foundation created to defend the technological freedoms and rights of individuals around the world, is promoting the use of Macromedia Flash, the success of which will fill the coffers of a pro-DMCA company at the expense of open W3C [w3.org] standards. The irony is sweet and poignant.


Please point me to the place on the W3C site where it talks about an open standard for what flash does. Are you going to try to refer me to SVG? I don't think that will fit the bill. Don't see anything about sound or interactivity.

Perhaps you could stop your whining and generate your Flash from PHP, or you could head over here and read the spec for Flash, published by Macromedia in 1998.

Oh, that's mature...

[po8]

Yeah, for earning the respect of the general public for an august organization like the EFF, there's nothing quite like making up a song that mocks those who disagree.

If that doesn't work, maybe we can shoot Disney execs with spitwads or give them atomic wedgies.

Re:Oh, that's mature...

[juju2112]

Dude, lighten up. They're people, just like you. Are you serious all the time?

Everyone likes to have fun now and then. Even lawyers. :)

Re:

[Anonymous Coward]

This is Slashdot. We all use noisy multi-fanned Athlon boxes running linux and X Windows. Nobody cares about quality here.

No need for an audio-player

[Anonymous Coward]

Decoding of .au files (SUN audio?) is in the kernel.
Just do a cat song.au > /dev/audio.

Re:No need for an audio-player

[Anonymous Coward]

in the kernel? And you bash MS for having InternetConnect() in the Win32 layer!

Re:No need for an audio-player

[Anonymous Coward]

Its not *in* the kernel, .au is simply raw, 8bit, 8kHz, ulaw encoded pcm. Writing it directly to the soundcard without configuring the sound card first happens to work on some soundcards (but not all).

Lyrics

[3.1415926535]

I can't get to their main page now, so I'm trying to figure out the lyrics. This is the best I can come up with so far. Anyone know what these words I couldn't figure out are?

Ooh, sing along kids!

Tinsel town glow[?]
Tinsel town glow
Tinsel town glow
Tinsel town glow

Who believes the average chains a criminal on the ???
Disney and his show biz friends
Who have a lot at stake
Who with their laws turn back the clocks
The rights we have today
The entertainment moguls and CBDTPA

And they stell us stuff (it's overpriced!)
They lock it up (and that's not nice!)
So they can keep their profits in the sky (sky high!)
So join the fight, defend your rights
Before they're whisked away
Speak up fast! Don't let them pass CBDTPA

Numbers count (they make Congress pay attention!)
Tell all your friends about that old CBDTPA

Re:Lyrics

[Denium]

"Tinsel town glow[?]" to "Tinsel town club"

"The rights we have today" to "on rights we have today"

:-)

Re:Lyrics

[Denium]

"Who with their laws turn back the clocks"

I *think* I heard "locks", but I'm not sure.

Confirm/deny, anyone?

Re:Lyrics

[3.1415926535]

Yeah, I heard that too but that just doesn't make any sense, although I suppose it does rhyme.

Re:Lyrics

[3.1415926535]

Ohh... I'll bet it is locks (as in technological content locks).

Re:Lyrics

[Izanagi]

Who believes the average chains a criminal on the ???

I think chains is really "Janes", as in average jane/joe.

The last word in that line is "run", "Web", or is it "move".

Re:Lyrics

[Anonymous Coward]

This is how it sounds to me anyway...

Ooh, sing along kids!

Tinsel town club
Tinsel town club
Tinsel town club
Tinsel town club

Who believes the average ?janes? a criminal on the make
Disney and his show biz friends
Who have a lot at stake
Who with their locks turn back the clocks
The rights we have today
The entertainment moguls and CBDTPA

And they sell us stuff (it's overpriced!)
They lock it up (and that's not nice!)
So they can keep their profits in the sky (high! high! high!)
So join the fight, defend your rights
Before they're whisked away
Speak up fast! Don't let them pass CBDTPA

Numbers count (they make Congress pay attention!)
Tell all your friends about that old CBDTPA

Re:Lyrics

[grung0r]

the last word is make. a criminal on the make is a phrase that makes sense, and it rhymes with stake.

Re:Lyrics

[Izanagi]

The background singers repeat as far as "on the "maaa" before saying, "Who have a lot at stake"

Re:Lyrics

[Paradise Pete]

Tinsel Town Club
average Jane's a criminal on the make
On rights we have today

I'm guessing about the "on the make," but it makes sense and rhymes with stake. The others I'm pretty sure of.

Re:Lyrics

[Matthaeus]

Clocks. As in, legislate advanced technology out of existence.

Late breaking news

[Anonymous Coward]

And in further late breaking news, the RIAA and MPAA finally destroy the EFF by Slashdotting their servers.

I think you are confusing (Walt) Disney with

[Don'tBAWank!]

...Michael Eisner. The two are not the same, even though Eisner lusts for that.
It's the greed, desire to control beyond appropriate boundries, and self-agrandisment that makes me sick of Eisner and his boot-lickers.

No 'Mickey Mouse' computers

[epeus]

As I said when I submitted this story in vain this morning at 6am, the phrases 'Mickey Mouse Copy Protection' and 'Mickey Mouse Computer' need to enter the language in this context - as in 'Do you want a Mickey Mouse computer that stops you making music?'

Re:No 'Mickey Mouse' computers

[marauder]

Please, the phrase is "copy prevention." You aren't being protected from anything. You're being prevented from exercising your rights.

link for file on edonkey p2p network

[Anonymous Coward]

if you have edonkey installed, this URL will get you the file(I know I'm sharing it, chances are other edonkey users are too); slashdot munges the URL, so you need to hand-paste it(sorry...yell at Slashdot.) Only works with IE, unless you've modified the registry to get edonkey links working inside of Opera.

ed2k://|file|20020528_eff_tinseltown_club.mp3|18 75 400|7d4c0b5d11e81ef532048116e7c6077d

BTW, you really DO need to get it from a P2P network. Their connection is crawling right now...and even if it isn't, each download costs 'em money.

***Attention Baseball Fans***

[bje2]

Show Bud Selig...

Vote Expos-Twins for All-Star Game...

REMOVE THE SPACE BETWEEN 5 and 4

[Anonymous Coward]

#$@$%!

I posted an invalid URL; slash seems to be sticking in an extra space for some dumbass reason. Even using HTML mode, I can't get Slash to stop, but basically, it should be:

1875400

NOT:
1875 400

Remove the space, and eDonkey will not complain about it being an "invalid url" or somesuch.

BT Link Here!

[burris]

Here is a link to the file published with BitTorrent, download away!

http://bittorrent.theory.org:8080/20020528_eff_tin seltown_club.mp3

burris

I like this

[bsDaemon]

It's very catchy. Sort of obnoxiouse, but catchy. And thus, gentlemen, and the, err..3 ladies, I am going to burn this to CDR and mail it to my congresswoman, Joanne Davis (R, VA - 1st district). She a dunce who thinks the DMCA is about Napster no matter what i triend to tell her. As such I hate her, and subjecting her to this will be sweet revenge, as well as maybe getting the point accross -- unless that could be considered domestic terrorsim?

Answered in the FAQ

[Anonymous Coward]

a mirror to each article

For text, you can try Google Cache. Otherwise, it's answered in the FAQ list.

-- Pinocchio

If you live in California, call your state senator

[Anonymous Coward]

and tell him to oppose AB2747. At the same time Gov. Davis is whining about the budget deficit and raising taxes on the little people, the Assembly just voted 68-1 to give Hollywood a handout so they can buy more politicians.

Entity known as Slashdot

[Anonymous Coward]

there is no entity known as Slashdot.

Not even the VA Software board of directors?

Transcription!

[newerbob]

I listened to that MP3 a few times and I still can't understand the words.

Here's a transcription, as best I can figure it out.

Ohh! Sing along kids.
Tinsel Town Club x3
Who believes the average [inaudible] a criminal [inaudiable]
Disney and ??? showbiz friends, hugalguglalguglsg
Who blah blah blah and blah blah the rights we have today
huguaglguglugualg
We're all gay at the EFF
We love to hug our macintoshes and program in Java
DMCA!
DCMA!
See ya real soon

Satire is a protected form of speech

[Ilan Volow]

Satire is a constitutionally protected form of speech, and I believe that's how weird Al got around it (although he might change a note or two here and there). Especially considering the political nature of this EFF satire, use of the basic tune would almost certainly be protected under the first amendment.

Re:Satire is a protected form of speech

[ntk]

Nope. *Parody* (using a song's form to mock it's creator) is fair use in the US, in the sense that you don't need permission. Weird Al has to obtain the rights for any of his songs that don't specifically target their creators (e.g. "Eat It" isn't about Michael Jackson, so he has to pay).

The EFF's Cory Doctorow discusses fair use and parody in more detail here.

Lord F*ckwad

[yerricde]

It's the greed, desire to control beyond appropriate boundries, and self-agrandisment that makes me sick of Eisner and his boot-lickers.

Anybody seen Shrek? Apparently, the "Lord Farquaad" character (pronounced "lord fuckwad") is supposed to represent Ei$ner.

Another mirror of the MP3

[PureFiction]

I have a copy at:

http://cubicmetercrystal.com/eff_tinseltown_club.m p3

The EFF is getting /.'ed pretty good, so try to use some kind of mirror if possible.

Re:Another mirror of the MP3

[PureFiction]

A copy of the Flash animation is now available as well:

http://cubicmetercrystal.com/eff_tinsel.swf

Re: Free software song -- Tompox version rocks!

[Anonymous Coward]

Some French dude who bills himself as "Tompox" created a techno version of the song a while back... it actually rocks pretty hard.

Check it out.

The page about the song:
here

The song itself:
here

The purpose is probably awareness and support.

[jbn-o]

Does anyone think after hearing this parody, Disney will have some epic crisis of conscience and immediately reverse its support of anti-freedom legislation?

Don't belittle them with sarcastic strawman arguments. It's reasonable to expect they wanted to publish something that would stand a chance of grabbing the average person's attention thus increasing awareness of our loss of freedom to corporate masters.

Seems like the time and effort behind this would be better spent mailing/e-mailing/snail-mailing/phoning legislators to voice your opposition.

There is no need to sequence the events so we do this first, then that. We can do all that and more in any order we wish and benefit from having people do all these things simultaneously.

Fighting theft == taking away freedoms?

[Anonymous Coward]

OK, I've watched dozens of articles go by on slashdot regarding how evil Eisner/Disney is and all the other media companies that are pushing for copyright protection - Mil. Act, etc...

Exactly where's the problem? The recording/media industry owns/controls the rights to the music/movies, etc... and they charge 15-20 bucks for purchasing a DVD, tape or CD that contains that copyrighted material. The cost isn't outrageous (unless your trying to collect a 1000 movies/songs) (hey, that's capitalism, you want socialism - please, not in my backyard) and they do own the copyright - legally - whether people like it or not. So if somebody wants to own a 1000 cars as part of his private collection it shouldn't be illegal to steal cars? and the grand theft auto laws should be renounced??

I hear whining and complaining about all the laws taking away people's freedoms and rights - yes, I would agree the law preventing people from reverse engineering encryptions and other copy protection systems are wrong - but what's up with hammering the media companies - they have every right to protect the material they own - no? I'm a 2600 reader and did my share of software piracy when I was a kid - fun, but can't say that it was right.

Yes, people would like them to wake up smell the coffee and implement new protection technologies instead of creating new laws - unfortunately I haven't heard of any security system yet that is practical or feasible (which doesn't mean it doesn't exist) - Jobs and Grove blame the media companies for not trying hard enough - as far as I can tell there are probably 1000's of guy's out there trying to dream up a system that they can pitch to the media companies because you can bet if it worked the media companies would pounce on it (as demonstrated by the wasted money they spent on some recent protection scheme disasters) and the guy/company who came up with it would make a mint. Jobs and Grove seem to be taking the cowardly way out by blaming the media companies for not coming up with a solution when they themselves don't seem to have the answer either. How about coming up with something to show that it can be done and THEN blaming the media industry if they don't implement it?

I'm not trying to flame anyone for holding their position I just don't seem to see the same picture they do of the situation.

I'd be interested to hear how so many slashdotters hold such a uniform position against the media companies yet, there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of logic behind the position - additionally -directly- addressing my previous observations/questions would also be appreciated.

Re:Fighting theft == taking away freedoms?

[cwsulliv]

Do you want to watch a DVD on your Linux system? Sorry, the media industry says you can't, under penalty of the law they greased through Congress.

Would you like to create a mix of your favorite selections from several different music CDs you've purchased, for playing on your iPod? With the newer copy protected CDs, the media industry say's you can't, under penalty of the law they greased through Congress.

Would you like to cut and paste a couple of paragraphs from an eBook you've purchased and are referencing in your high school or college term paper? Sorry, the media industry says you can't, under penalty of the law they greased through Congress.

Mirror for the flash?

[sconeu]

I got the MP3. Anyone got a mirror for the flash?

mirror on giFT

[ddent]

I'm staying logged into giFT at the moment to share this file (its the only one I'm sharing, actually), and I think it has spread to a few other users. See http://gift.sf.net/. I'm sharing the MP3, don't have the flash right now..

Lyrics

[ay2b]

Listening to the lyrics, there's a few lines that are a little difficult to understand. If anyone can understand them better than I, please let us know. In the mean time, here's a mirror of the song, in text format:

Hello! Sing along kids!

tin-sel town club
tin-sel town club
tin-sel town club
tin-sel town club

Who believes the average Jane's a criminal on the make?

Disney and the showbiz friends,
who have a lot at stake!

Who with their lawyers and their (mumble) what rights we have today

The entertainment mogels and CD-DGBA

They said it'll stop
It's all for right!
They love getop
And that's not nice!
So they can keep their profits in the sky!
High, high, high!

So join the fight! Defend your rights, before they're wisked away!

Speak up fast!
Don't let them pass
the CD DGBA

Congress pass
They make congress pay attention
They are no friend of ours
That old CD DGBA...

Nice, but wrong strategy.

[Dan Crash]

The Flash video was nicely done, but I think trying to paint corporations as villains for trying to "keep their profits high" is a strategy waiting to backfire. Keeping profits high is what corporations are supposed to do. No one in power is going to spank them for doing that.

The whole issue isn't about profits in the first place. It's about control. THEY want to control the things YOU buy AFTER you buy them. And they're using all their corporate powers -- money, lobbying, technology -- to stop you from owning things at all. In their world, you don't own CDs, just licenses to listen to them.

I think we'd all be doing better if we lampooned these corporations as communist dictators instead of capitalists. The analogy fits better, and it's funnier, too.

Re:Nice, but wrong strategy.

[FreeUser]

I think trying to paint corporations as villains for trying to "keep their profits high" is a strategy waiting to backfire. Keeping profits high is what corporations are supposed to do.

Not when they are deliberately and consciously subverting the constitution and working to neuter or outright ban the most democratic technology (the internet) to come along in two centuries to do so.

And not when they are trying to ban the technologies that make it possible for hobbiests to create content equal to or better than what they produce, in order to protect their cartel at the expense of the wider society and culture.

No one in power is going to spank them for doing that.

Well, that is indicative of another problem ... the legalized bribery that has turned our once proud congress into a collection of cheap whores who routinely sell their votes (for a relative pittence) to their corporate sponsors in hopes financing their campaign to allow themselves to live on the public dole for another two (or six) years.

Re:Nice, but wrong strategy.

[morgue-ann]

How about letting the heads of corporations (and their bootlickers in Congress) portray themselves.

I can't figure out if they are evil or stupid. It's hard to be manipulative & devious if you were shortchanged at the neuron dispenser. I'm drifting towards the opinion that it's all an act to ingratiate know-nothings who are suspicious of technology.

Free software song

[andersbd]

It does!!!
I got the original version to play now (with cat > /dev/audio), but this one is much better!!!
It rocks pretty hard!!!

FUCK YOU EFF

[Toxxy]

OMGOMGOMGOMGGOMGOMGOMGOGMG LARGE CORPORATION TRYING TO CONTROL PRODUCT THEFT. THOSE CUNTRAGS!

Yeah, fuck you EFF, you're a joke. The only reason I give a shit about you is because I respect Wil Wheaton. ASS HOLES.

direct link to BitTorrent installer

[bramcohen]

You can get the BitTorrent installer for windows by running this file. You can then download the url given above by clicking on this link.

And of course, the RIAA song:

[jcsehak]

An Association Named Sue. Now available in ogg!

[ original post ]

giFT

[Robotech_Master]

I see at least one copy of the song on giFT, and I just added my own copy to that.

It's a nice song and all, but...I can't make out the lyrics. Are they posted anywhere?

Is this really the right approach?

[alouts]

I'm all for the root message (that the moves to restrict our rights is a very, very bad thing), but this animation makes me cringe. To me, it seems like a very sensible message is wrapped up in the wrong packaging.

The problem is that our rights as consumers of media are being taken away from us. That by crippling the content we buy, and making it illegal for us to work around that crippling, or to even create something that could be used to get around that crippling, the entertainment industry is hamstringing the public's rights.

The way this cartoon portrays it though, this may as well be a WTO protest. The clip seems to be one that has a strong anti-capitalist tone, the "big bad corporations want to make money" kind of thing. But this will not only NOT get the true severity of the problem across to John Q Public, it will align the EFF with the left wing anti-globalization/anti-capitalist protesters, who are far from acceptance in the mainstream. I live in Berkeley, and it reminds me a lot of the "hey, let's go protest something - it doesn't really matter what" mentality I hear all the time here. This means that they aren't just not quite getting their message across effectively, they're actually detracting from their position.

I know plenty of people familiar with the situation find the clip funny, but the few people I sent it to who are not already involved all thought it was just being critical of Disney for being a big American company. Until I explained it to them, they weren't sure whether to dismiss it as radical propaganda or not.

I fully support the EFF's cause, and I wish they had done something a little less propagandistic, and a little more explanatory.

I think the song may have done more good...

[Erpo]

...than is immediately evident. After listening to it a few times I can actually remember the acronym CBDTPA.

Re:I think the song may have done more good...

[Anonymous Coward]

I use the mnemonic "Cunt Bitch Dick Tit Pussy Ass"

So... is the MP3 released as Open Audio?

[SnakeStu]

It would seem logical for the EFF to specifically release the MP3 under the EFF's Open Audio License, using the (O) notation specified in that license. Admittedly, I've only been able to acquire the MP3 and haven't been able to get through to the EFF's own page or the Flash animation and thus might be missing an (O) notice, but I did check Radio EFF and CAFE and saw nothing of this MP3.

And, of course, once released as Open Audio it would then be appropriate for listing in the Open Music Registry. :-)

And ASP too...

[Shade, The]

Also note their use of ASP. Isn't that proprietary? (It certainly does seem as nice to program in as PHP)

Lyrics anywhere?

[Anonymous Bullard]

Having studied only British English at school and preferring BBC (who use predominantly something resembling "Queen's English", apart from foreign guests and of course Vicky Parker) as my anglophone source of news instead of the US-centric American networks I find it a bit difficult to follow some of the lyrics in "cartoon-American".

I couldn't find the lyrics for this EFF-Disney extragavanza anywhere but with the EFF being involved I must be missing something. Could some kind soul either point me to the right direction or alternatively post the lyrics e.g. here on Slashdot (potential karma goldmine awaits...)?

Yet another mirror

[marcus-e]

...with the Flash movie and the music (in Ogg and MP3) has been set up here:

http://marcus.pixelmagic.nu/tinseltown_club/

I have to comment...

[Stoutlimb]

I quite like that song... A hacker song done to old country/folk music, very well done. I recommend everyone who comes across give it a good listen.

Bork!

Wierd

[jasondlee]

Is it just me, or is it wierd that the EFF uses ASPs on there home page. No a whole lot of freedom with that setup .

jason

Isn't the EFF illegal under the DMCA?

[Anonymous Coward]

Hmm, Since the EFF has taken a stance against the DMCA and the DMCA itself is a copyright protection device. Dosn't that make the EFF illegal since one of it's stated goals is to circumvent the DMCA? ;-)

That was stupid.

[lunky]

Parody or no, this was a waste of my time and whoever made it. It doesn't send a usefull message and it's not "funny" enough to have any value.

A DISNEY Employee speaks (anonymously)

[Anonymous Coward]

You folks should be on Disney's side. They are the true underdog here, trying to eke out a living while giant monopolies like AOLTW try to own everything from the movie studios to your TV set, to your movie theatre, to your internet connection.

While the EFF has every right to complain that they don't like a technological solution proposed to combat theft, they stepped over the line when:

• They claim Disney products are "overpriced" (then don't buy them!)
• They don't speak out against theft of intellectual property

If these folks are so wonderful and smart, then why don't they come up with a better technological solution to combat theft?

The EFF is really a schill for the MP3, Macintosh, and Flash lobbies---all proprietary technology that they choose to endorse. They only hate Microsoft and Disney because it's popular to among this pseudo-intellectual tree-hugging Macintosh-worshipping crowd, but love equally "closed" technologies like Macintosh and remain silent about the monster that is AOLTW.

Re:A DISNEY Employee speaks (anonymously)

[newerbob]

This is NOT a troll.

Whoever marked this intelligent post as a troll is obviously suffering from AIDS RELATED DEMENTIA.

You are in my prayers.

THERE'S A REAL ETHICAL DILEMMA

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm sure the folks at EFF are tearing their hair out over this ETHICAL DILEMMA

Should they go to GAY DAY at WALT DISNEY WORLD or not?