NFAYRHAGYARAGHARAYHR! EXCUSE ME, MR. "YES, I DID EAT POOP"!
0 jokes, you're retarded. Retarded as in, YOU'RE RETARDED. THE TOPIC THREAD = WHY OUR MOMS DON'T USE LINUX.
Just by breezing through your "I'm looking for" firing squad, IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT YOU'RE A FUCKING JACKASS AND FORGOT THAT THIS PROVERBIAL "MOM" WE SPEAK OF HAS LITTLE TO NO INTEREST IN ANY OF THESE TOPICS.
YEAH, GO ASK YOUR MOM HOW SHE FEELS ABOUT SOURCE CODE AVAILABILITY.
What I'm excited about is the thought of double-sided CDs. If I can now label (well, sort-of label) one side of a CD while still keeping data on it, I can use that top side for EVEN MORE DATA. This is a very exciting idea.
Plug your speakers into the yellow 2.5mm input on the sound card. My setup involves using a converter to go from the mini-din audio connector (from head-unit) into 2.5mm jack on sound card, but I'm not sure if your speakers use that same sort of connection.
Whatever the case, make sure you have "digital output only" selected in the sound controls. (Double-click speaker icon in systray -> Advanced -> Check "Digital Output Only" box -> OK -> OK)
I hope this helps, but I'm not sure exactly what your setup is or how an spdif cable would fit into the equation.
+5, Funny: "LINUX ROX!! Linux powered DVD player... hmm... MICROSOFT BLOWS. LOLOLOLZ."
+4, Informative: "Linux is great! Here's a picture of my DVD player with a penguin sticker I found at the flea market on it."
+3, Insightful: "Linux is very cool... it is free... and so is my right to choose... I live in my brother-in-law's garage and play Dungeons and Dragons against myself every night from 7 pm to 1 am..."
+2, Redundant: "Linux is kewl, does this mean I can run BitchX on my TV?"
+1, Funny: "Linux is okay, my brother installed it on our computer once but then mom made him take it off... I hate you milkman dan HAHAHAHAH GET IT AHAHAHAH"
0: "Linux powered DVD player? Who cares?"
-1, Flamebait: "Why don't they install a real OS on it like, say, Microsoft Windows. 2000 or XP, I don't care. At least I'm not running amateur software on an otherwise professional machine." 1 reply
+5, Insightful: "U SUCK LINUX IS DA GRETEST. REAL OS LOLOLOL. I REBOOT WINDOWS ONCE EVERY FEW DAYS. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE I HAVE NO LIFE."
And if you had paid for one of those extended warranties all you/.ers so abhor, you'd be able to stroll back into that store and get a brand new one. Ahaha, you suck.
I'm not sure why everybody's getting all excited about invasion of privacy issues. I can't think of anything more benign than a retinal scan for identification. What's so private about your eyes? My only issue would be making sure the data isn't easily accessable through a magstrip (like a credit card) and then having the ability to make a retinal copy. Is that what everyone's all hyped up about? I'm honest when I say I don't understand what the big deal is.
How do these folks come up with the money to pay for their gaming habit? If they haven't left the house for years, I'm going to assume that means that they don't have jobs.
I'm sure a lot of people would be quick to interject the fact that EQ items are sold all the time on online auction services, but I think it's a stretch of the imagination to say that they're all doing that. What seems to be the case is that mommy and daddy are paying for their habit.
If mommy and daddy are taking financial responsibility for their habit, what would make sense would be to stop paying for it. How can you blame Sony for offering an addictive service if you're the one who's feeding them money?
I say put one of these so-called addicts in their own apartment, maybe pay for their rent and food, and see how long their addiction lasts. Think about what would happen if you were to kick one of these folks out of the house? Or if you were to destroy the power cable running from the PSU (or indeed soon, PS2) to the wall?
I'm not going to say that I don't play more than my share of Q3A or UT, but for Christ's sake, what's going to happen if you do some kind of drastic action that forces them to quit cold turkey? Are they going to get a case of "the shakes" or something?
I appreciate the enthusiasm with which you seem to hold these personal organizers, but I'm curious about a few of your statements.
How big the operating system is not an issue with the flash rom. Windows ("whatever random flavor of the month"? I can only think of one wide-spread operating system that has daily builds available) can be as large as it wants, and if it has more built-in software and sacrifices storage to it, I wouldn't mind. But I'm getting the best of both worlds here. Not only does it have a wide variety of built-in software, I also am not taking it out of my storage.
Regarding the keyboard options, for a product running Linux, there's no way I'm going to use that ridiculous built-in keyboard. Again, I find it ironic that a device running command-line Linux does not have a full-sized keyboard available for it. At least with the iPAQ, I have the option to elect to use a full-sized keyboard. With the Zaurus, I'm locked into coding with a toothpick. Maybe you've got skinny fingers?
I am surprised at your comments on the Maestro. Much less hardware? It has 32 MBs less of memory. I can buy a tiny piece of 32MB MMC memory for $30 full retail. I get the feeling I'm missing something when you say "much less." Even after spending the extra $30, I'm spending less and getting a more powerful system.
And on the Journada, I'll agree with the fact that it's more expensive, but again, I'm not sure what this "less hardware" you speak of is.
And whatever a "dump MS weenies" is, the only front we're discussing here is personal organizers, a very small part of Microsoft's (MS weenies = Microsoft weenies?) market. And even taking that into consideration, the Zaurus is scarecly competition, and more of a Linux fanboy toy. imho, of course.
In your scattershot approach to explaining why the iPAQ (one of many Microsoft Pocket PC organizers) is inferior to the Zaurus, you've managed to glaze over many details.
The baseline iPAQ unit is $399, not $499. More robust models are available for people who want extra. The prices are $499 and $599 for the 3765 and 3835 respectively. If you want to purchase a Zaurus unit, you're stuck at the $499 pricepoint and cannot get any more or less advanced units, no matter what.
The Zaurus's display has 16-bit color and iPAQ's unit at the same price has 12-bit color. I defy anyone to show me a difference between the screens that I can clearly and distinctly notice.
You listed the iPAQ as having 64 MBs of memory. You neglected to mention that it also has a 32 MB flash rom.
When you said the iPAQ has SD memory expansion, you were thinking of a different model than the rest. The iPAQ's $499 model (the unit you chose to use for all the other comparisons) has no expansion built in. The extra sleeves available for it enable you to use CompactFlash cards as well as PCMCIA (laptop) cards. There is also an expansion sleeve available for holding two PCMCIA cards. With the Zaurus, you are locked into CompactFlash and the comparitively useless SD card. Sure, it's a little bit extra, but I'll stick with my PC card expandibility.
I cannot fathom how you came up with the idea that the iPAQ has weak input options. For input options, you can write in your regular handwriting, full sentences at a time. Through a single tap you can access an absurdly powerful handwriting configurator, which allows you to set up how you write each letter. Just for the letter A alone, it supports three different ways to write it in uppercase as well as five different ways to write it in lowercase. This is available for all letters and numbers and all the types of punctuation you see on your qwerty keyboard. If you're not comfortable with that, you can use graffiti strokes to enter your text (supporting ALL popular Palm strokes), or -- if you're so inclined -- an onscreen qwerty keyboard. Microsoft put a lot of effort into their text input options, and I am amazed that all you could say about it was "Not trainable."
"SWEET gui"? I'm supposed to be excited about it because it's... "SWEET"? Is it also TUBULAR? The fact that "many applications" are available is true for both units, if not moreso for the Pocket PC, considering it's been around for about 3 years and is currently available on seven devices that I can immediately think of. I see you also mentioned that it comes with Microsoft Pocket PC and that it is difficult to install Linux on it. I would dare say that Pocket PC handhelds are a lot more accepting of Linux than this Linux handheld is of Pocket PC. Now who's strictly controlling what software is run on their hardware?
Zaurus's built-in keyboard is nothing amazing. I would strain myself to describe it as being "very cool." There is a full-sized keyboard available for the iPAQ for $100. There are others, too. I have not seen any such accessories for the Zaurus. I personally cannot bear to use a keyboard that is anything less than full-sized, and for hardcore data entry and command line usage, I find it ironic that a product running on Linux cannot accomodate me.
You are also correct in mentioning that the Zaurus does not come with a microphone or speaker, and the iPAQ comes equipped with both. And in what universe is having Opera built in as the main browser a selling point?
You are comparing apples to oranges. The iPAQ is just one of many Pocket PC solutions available. If you're really looking for some stiff competition, take a look at Audiovox's Maestro, which blows the doors off anything near it its price point. Or maybe even the HP Journada 568.
We now return to your regularly scheduled group Linux masturbation.
I find that product placement in games is terrific. To play off of another post I saw here, a gentleman was commenting on how he didn't enjoy seeing advertisements for the company that produces the game, or family photos, etc. Ten times out of ten, I'll want to see "Pepsi" on the side of a can in the game than I would "SUPERCOLA." Intelligent product placement makes the game much more believable, and doesn't launch me out of the otherwise serious nature of the game with "Supercola? wtf?"
Take Max Payne for instance; a game that I find fairly realistic. If the painkillers were all "Advil" or "Tylenol" or something, I would find that tasteful and I would prefer it over "Painkillers."
I'd say that everybody wins in that situation. The advertising company gets some cheap (and probably well-noticed) advertising, the software company gets some extra cash in their pockets, and the end player gets some added realism.
I think tastefulness is the key issue here, and I think it's important not to lose sight of the fact that "SUPERCOLA" takes me way out of the illusion that the game publishers are trying to embed me in.
First of all, anyone who defends "Magic Lantern" by claiming they have nothing to hide is kidding themselves. We all have something to hide. Our pirated software, our porn stash, our unpaid speeding tickets. Most people nowadays let their lives flow through their keyboard, so why not just install cameras in everyone's house? Because you wouldn't get nearly the same level of information.
Keylog yourself for a week and look at the results afterwards. If you take five people, four of them will have something to hide, and fifth one will next week.
This is a blatent violation of privacy and completely disgusts me. Next time you want to raid my life, get a fucking warrant.
What about strategic first person shooter variants like Quake TF? Go ahead, try and tell me that a clan vs clan Team Fortress game doesn't involve any strategy.
It might not have the same tempo as a game like Starcraft or even Age of Kings, a good game of Quake Team Fortress (or even HL Counterstrike) is very refreshing.
While I'm not going to pretend that it's an RTS, I can't help but point out that it has a lot of important elements of a genuine battle (all ping times being equal.)
Your teammates have morale, they have skill, and it's important to use communication and cooperation to get a decent job done in a genuine match.
You may not agree with me, but it's a valid point nonetheless.
Actually, I'm pretty sure I saw this technique first on a "millertime" commercial, funnily enough. I distinctly recall a bottle being poured into a glass, and watching the wildly scintillating action in 360 degrees.
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"Probably saved my life"? And nearly ended mine!
NFAYRHAGYARAGHARAYHR! EXCUSE ME, MR. "YES, I DID EAT POOP"!
0 jokes, you're retarded. Retarded as in, YOU'RE RETARDED. THE TOPIC THREAD = WHY OUR MOMS DON'T USE LINUX.
Just by breezing through your "I'm looking for" firing squad, IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT YOU'RE A FUCKING JACKASS AND FORGOT THAT THIS PROVERBIAL "MOM" WE SPEAK OF HAS LITTLE TO NO INTEREST IN ANY OF THESE TOPICS.
YEAH, GO ASK YOUR MOM HOW SHE FEELS ABOUT SOURCE CODE AVAILABILITY.
DICKWAD!
What I'm excited about is the thought of double-sided CDs. If I can now label (well, sort-of label) one side of a CD while still keeping data on it, I can use that top side for EVEN MORE DATA. This is a very exciting idea.
Must run Linux
Must have a 1024 x 768 display
Must be the size of a credit card
Must have built-in voice recognition
Must have broadband wireless internet (768/128 MINIMUM)
Must have 80 GB hard drive
Must have 256 MBs of memory at least
Good speaker!!!!
Mic in
Line out
DVD playback capability
GPS system
Thumbprint ID system
4 megapixel digital camera
MPEG-4 support
60W lightbulb equivalent
Mobile phone
32-bit color display
30 day battery life
Ability to survive 20 foot drop onto concrete without damage
Ability to sync with all operating systems
Built-in USB plug
802.11b, Bluetooth, and IrDA support
Full beaming compatibility with PocketPC and PalmOS
Shiny display to use as mirror
Legible clock
Fast processor (Q3A at 80 FPS at least)
Display as bright as my CRT
Easy to use UI
Stable!!!!!!!
I have a postage stamp that is no bigger than a credit card and fits in my wallet.
Somehow I'm guessing that "'nuff" wasn't said.
OMGOMGOMGOMGGOMGOMGOMGOGMG LARGE CORPORATION TRYING TO CONTROL PRODUCT THEFT. THOSE CUNTRAGS!
Yeah, fuck you EFF, you're a joke. The only reason I give a shit about you is because I respect Wil Wheaton. ASS HOLES.
Whatever the case, make sure you have "digital output only" selected in the sound controls. (Double-click speaker icon in systray -> Advanced -> Check "Digital Output Only" box -> OK -> OK)
I hope this helps, but I'm not sure exactly what your setup is or how an spdif cable would fit into the equation.
+4, Informative: "Linux is great! Here's a picture of my DVD player with a penguin sticker I found at the flea market on it."
+3, Insightful: "Linux is very cool... it is free... and so is my right to choose... I live in my brother-in-law's garage and play Dungeons and Dragons against myself every night from 7 pm to 1 am..."
+2, Redundant: "Linux is kewl, does this mean I can run BitchX on my TV?"
+1, Funny: "Linux is okay, my brother installed it on our computer once but then mom made him take it off... I hate you milkman dan HAHAHAHAH GET IT AHAHAHAH"
0: "Linux powered DVD player? Who cares?"
-1, Flamebait: "Why don't they install a real OS on it like, say, Microsoft Windows. 2000 or XP, I don't care. At least I'm not running amateur software on an otherwise professional machine."
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And if you had paid for one of those extended warranties all you /.ers so abhor, you'd be able to stroll back into that store and get a brand new one. Ahaha, you suck.
[1]Compaq 3870 (the one with INTEGRATED bluetooth)
[2]Casio Casseopia E-200
[3]Sharp Zaurus 5500"
Can any of them count? ;[
OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG THAT IS SOOOOO KEWL: A $500 YAKBAK WITH LEGS. OMGOMGFAGGOT
I'm not sure why everybody's getting all excited about invasion of privacy issues. I can't think of anything more benign than a retinal scan for identification. What's so private about your eyes? My only issue would be making sure the data isn't easily accessable through a magstrip (like a credit card) and then having the ability to make a retinal copy. Is that what everyone's all hyped up about? I'm honest when I say I don't understand what the big deal is.
How do these folks come up with the money to pay for their gaming habit? If they haven't left the house for years, I'm going to assume that means that they don't have jobs.
I'm sure a lot of people would be quick to interject the fact that EQ items are sold all the time on online auction services, but I think it's a stretch of the imagination to say that they're all doing that. What seems to be the case is that mommy and daddy are paying for their habit.
If mommy and daddy are taking financial responsibility for their habit, what would make sense would be to stop paying for it. How can you blame Sony for offering an addictive service if you're the one who's feeding them money?
I say put one of these so-called addicts in their own apartment, maybe pay for their rent and food, and see how long their addiction lasts. Think about what would happen if you were to kick one of these folks out of the house? Or if you were to destroy the power cable running from the PSU (or indeed soon, PS2) to the wall?
I'm not going to say that I don't play more than my share of Q3A or UT, but for Christ's sake, what's going to happen if you do some kind of drastic action that forces them to quit cold turkey? Are they going to get a case of "the shakes" or something?
I appreciate the enthusiasm with which you seem to hold these personal organizers, but I'm curious about a few of your statements.
How big the operating system is not an issue with the flash rom. Windows ("whatever random flavor of the month"? I can only think of one wide-spread operating system that has daily builds available) can be as large as it wants, and if it has more built-in software and sacrifices storage to it, I wouldn't mind. But I'm getting the best of both worlds here. Not only does it have a wide variety of built-in software, I also am not taking it out of my storage.
Regarding the keyboard options, for a product running Linux, there's no way I'm going to use that ridiculous built-in keyboard. Again, I find it ironic that a device running command-line Linux does not have a full-sized keyboard available for it. At least with the iPAQ, I have the option to elect to use a full-sized keyboard. With the Zaurus, I'm locked into coding with a toothpick. Maybe you've got skinny fingers?
I am surprised at your comments on the Maestro. Much less hardware? It has 32 MBs less of memory. I can buy a tiny piece of 32MB MMC memory for $30 full retail. I get the feeling I'm missing something when you say "much less." Even after spending the extra $30, I'm spending less and getting a more powerful system.
And on the Journada, I'll agree with the fact that it's more expensive, but again, I'm not sure what this "less hardware" you speak of is.
And whatever a "dump MS weenies" is, the only front we're discussing here is personal organizers, a very small part of Microsoft's (MS weenies = Microsoft weenies?) market. And even taking that into consideration, the Zaurus is scarecly competition, and more of a Linux fanboy toy. imho, of course.
In your scattershot approach to explaining why the iPAQ (one of many Microsoft Pocket PC organizers) is inferior to the Zaurus, you've managed to glaze over many details.
The baseline iPAQ unit is $399, not $499. More robust models are available for people who want extra. The prices are $499 and $599 for the 3765 and 3835 respectively. If you want to purchase a Zaurus unit, you're stuck at the $499 pricepoint and cannot get any more or less advanced units, no matter what.
The Zaurus's display has 16-bit color and iPAQ's unit at the same price has 12-bit color. I defy anyone to show me a difference between the screens that I can clearly and distinctly notice.
You listed the iPAQ as having 64 MBs of memory. You neglected to mention that it also has a 32 MB flash rom.
When you said the iPAQ has SD memory expansion, you were thinking of a different model than the rest. The iPAQ's $499 model (the unit you chose to use for all the other comparisons) has no expansion built in. The extra sleeves available for it enable you to use CompactFlash cards as well as PCMCIA (laptop) cards. There is also an expansion sleeve available for holding two PCMCIA cards. With the Zaurus, you are locked into CompactFlash and the comparitively useless SD card. Sure, it's a little bit extra, but I'll stick with my PC card expandibility.
I cannot fathom how you came up with the idea that the iPAQ has weak input options. For input options, you can write in your regular handwriting, full sentences at a time. Through a single tap you can access an absurdly powerful handwriting configurator, which allows you to set up how you write each letter. Just for the letter A alone, it supports three different ways to write it in uppercase as well as five different ways to write it in lowercase. This is available for all letters and numbers and all the types of punctuation you see on your qwerty keyboard. If you're not comfortable with that, you can use graffiti strokes to enter your text (supporting ALL popular Palm strokes), or -- if you're so inclined -- an onscreen qwerty keyboard. Microsoft put a lot of effort into their text input options, and I am amazed that all you could say about it was "Not trainable."
"SWEET gui"? I'm supposed to be excited about it because it's... "SWEET"? Is it also TUBULAR? The fact that "many applications" are available is true for both units, if not moreso for the Pocket PC, considering it's been around for about 3 years and is currently available on seven devices that I can immediately think of. I see you also mentioned that it comes with Microsoft Pocket PC and that it is difficult to install Linux on it. I would dare say that Pocket PC handhelds are a lot more accepting of Linux than this Linux handheld is of Pocket PC. Now who's strictly controlling what software is run on their hardware?
Zaurus's built-in keyboard is nothing amazing. I would strain myself to describe it as being "very cool." There is a full-sized keyboard available for the iPAQ for $100. There are others, too. I have not seen any such accessories for the Zaurus. I personally cannot bear to use a keyboard that is anything less than full-sized, and for hardcore data entry and command line usage, I find it ironic that a product running on Linux cannot accomodate me.
You are also correct in mentioning that the Zaurus does not come with a microphone or speaker, and the iPAQ comes equipped with both. And in what universe is having Opera built in as the main browser a selling point?
You are comparing apples to oranges. The iPAQ is just one of many Pocket PC solutions available. If you're really looking for some stiff competition, take a look at Audiovox's Maestro, which blows the doors off anything near it its price point. Or maybe even the HP Journada 568.
We now return to your regularly scheduled group Linux masturbation.
Countywide LAN parties! X)
Yeah, J.K. Rowling is going to change the way we look at books. Just like Stephen King did!
I find that product placement in games is terrific. To play off of another post I saw here, a gentleman was commenting on how he didn't enjoy seeing advertisements for the company that produces the game, or family photos, etc. Ten times out of ten, I'll want to see "Pepsi" on the side of a can in the game than I would "SUPERCOLA." Intelligent product placement makes the game much more believable, and doesn't launch me out of the otherwise serious nature of the game with "Supercola? wtf?"
Take Max Payne for instance; a game that I find fairly realistic. If the painkillers were all "Advil" or "Tylenol" or something, I would find that tasteful and I would prefer it over "Painkillers."
I'd say that everybody wins in that situation. The advertising company gets some cheap (and probably well-noticed) advertising, the software company gets some extra cash in their pockets, and the end player gets some added realism.
I think tastefulness is the key issue here, and I think it's important not to lose sight of the fact that "SUPERCOLA" takes me way out of the illusion that the game publishers are trying to embed me in.
I think I know what clearance t-shirt he'll be putting on his ThinkGeek wishlist.
First of all, anyone who defends "Magic Lantern" by claiming they have nothing to hide is kidding themselves. We all have something to hide. Our pirated software, our porn stash, our unpaid speeding tickets. Most people nowadays let their lives flow through their keyboard, so why not just install cameras in everyone's house? Because you wouldn't get nearly the same level of information.
Keylog yourself for a week and look at the results afterwards. If you take five people, four of them will have something to hide, and fifth one will next week.
This is a blatent violation of privacy and completely disgusts me. Next time you want to raid my life, get a fucking warrant.
It might not have the same tempo as a game like Starcraft or even Age of Kings, a good game of Quake Team Fortress (or even HL Counterstrike) is very refreshing.
While I'm not going to pretend that it's an RTS, I can't help but point out that it has a lot of important elements of a genuine battle (all ping times being equal.)
Your teammates have morale, they have skill, and it's important to use communication and cooperation to get a decent job done in a genuine match.
You may not agree with me, but it's a valid point nonetheless.
So this RedHat stock really IS worth something!
The obvious question would be "Well, how are they going to be able to do that?" but there's a better question at hand: "Where are my keys?"
What about amateur physics for the naughty amateur?
Actually, I'm pretty sure I saw this technique first on a "millertime" commercial, funnily enough. I distinctly recall a bottle being poured into a glass, and watching the wildly scintillating action in 360 degrees.