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Take a Peek Inside the Dane-Elec Memory Plant

Megamuch writes: "The tweakers.net guys got to take a tour inside the Dane-Elec memory factory in Ireland and have posted a pictorial tour of their trip. " They give a nice tour with lots of decent photos of the process that the comany goes through to package up chips. Fascinating stuff.

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  2. heh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    three hours and eleven minutes between posted stories and then it's just some damn RAM factory. woo. yeah, i think i'll subscribe now.

  3. hello by Dr+Kool,+PhD · · Score: -1, Troll

    CLIT sucks, they are a joke. The United Coalition of Trolls for the Abolition of Moderation OWNZ you fools. WE WERE FIRST.

    Oh, and fp.

  4. Trolls suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    90% are racist hicks.

  5. Conjunction of the stars? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Heh... it's been 15 minutes since the story went up, and there are more comments attached to the article than there are on /.

    Go figure.

    1. Re:Conjunction of the stars? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      You're real bright aren't you? Tweakers is a dutch web site, you think the dutch version of the story would have more comments atached?

  6. Mmmmm... by bacontaco · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I'm not listening to a word this guy's saying... I wish I was at home with a big bag of potato chips... Mmmmmmm... Potato chips.

    Oh wait, they make a different kind of chips...

    1. Re:Mmmmm... by dingo · · Score: 1

      Slashdot, news for homer,stuff that's battered..

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    2. Re:Mmmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >>>>The Borg assimilated my race & all I got was this lousey T-shirt

      DID IT SAY: I"M WITH STUPID??

    3. Re:Mmmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Yes. Right next to the one with the "I Heart Jar Jar" t-shirt on.

  7. DO NOT VISIT TWEAKERS.NET by Dr+Kool,+PhD · · Score: -1, Redundant

    Where does Osama Bin Laden get his money?? From DRUGS like HEROIN. Why do people use heroin?? Because losers like TWEAKERS.NET glorify its use. BOYCOTT TWEAKING - IT'S BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH.

    Remember - If you visit tweakers.net then YOU are supporting terrorism. YOU are responsible for the Sept. 11th attacks. YOU are a murderer. REMEMBER THAT.

    1. Re:DO NOT VISIT TWEAKERS.NET by Afrosheen · · Score: 2, Funny

      This isn't funny at all. Tweaker usually refers to someone on speed or methamphetamines. It's someone that involuntarily twitches and acts 'tweaked out'. Heroin users on the other hand tend to be more calm. The exact opposite of a tweaker. Maybe sleepers.net promotes heroin.

    2. Re:DO NOT VISIT TWEAKERS.NET by Mac+Degger · · Score: 1

      And it also refers to some one who makes adjustments to his/her/others equipment, oddly enough...

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    3. Re:DO NOT VISIT TWEAKERS.NET by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The layout from tweakers.net is way better than /.

    4. Re:DO NOT VISIT TWEAKERS.NET by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      see http://tuxbox.by-a.com/

      why is afrosheen bitchin about the word tweakers when he uses the same word on his own crappy "website"?

  8. Really cheap, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    This is cool. I was trying to decide between getting some really, really cheap CAS 2 DDR by Dane-Elec, or some CAS 2.5 from Kingston. I'd never heard of Dane-Elec, but newegg sells their stuff.
    The Dane-Elec "DDR 512MB" CAS 2 seems to be the best deal I've seen anywhere: $102.00.
    Now I can get it without worrying who this "no name" company is ;)

    1. Re:Really cheap, too by niheuvel · · Score: 1

      Dane Elec isn't no name, no brains... :)

  9. I've seen these before by ObviousGuy · · Score: 1

    They had one at the local Pizza Hut!

    I love how space age technologies trickly down into everyday use.

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    1. Re:I've seen these before by ObviousGuy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Today I'm having trouble speeling. Please bare with me.

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    2. Re:I've seen these before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ObviousGuy lives up to his name again!

      Note from SarcasmMan:
      Thank you so much for pointing out spelling errors, we may have never of noticed.

    3. Re:I've seen these before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      ...and you're lucky GrammerBoy isn't around. He may have never of noticed...

  10. gratz, propz to all dead homiez ta mere a poil ! by Adolf+Hitroll · · Score: -1

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  11. Yee-Haw!! by xdfgf · · Score: -1

    I woke up this morning just in time to feel my big brother's
    thick prick slide up inside my hot little hole, and it wasn't
    more than about five minutes later that I felt Jimmy's prick
    swell in my tummy; as he squirted thick gobs of incestuous sperm
    inside me. God, did that feel good.
    I hunched back at my big brother, as I bucked underneath
    him; trying to squeeze each precious drop of his potent sperm all
    the way up inside my fertile young womb where it belonged. I was
    vaguely aware of my mother watching her two eldest children
    mating like minks on the bed. Having fucked Jimmy the night
    before, Mother was quite willing to let me have my "turn" in the
    morning without interrupting. She just watched to make sure we
    "did it right"; and that every drop of her son's potent seed went
    into her daughter's body where it belonged, and wasn't "wasted"
    by him pulling out and squirting it all over me or the sheets.
    Besides, Mother hated to wash sheets, when she has three healthy
    daughters to help her with the chores. No, not washing sheets,
    Silly. I'm talking about the "chores" of helping our mother with
    the babies.
    You know about babies, don't you? I thought so. Well,
    Ginger, Mary and I all help Mother with the babies. Uhuh. We
    not only watch them like most girls do, but we clean their
    diapers, cuddle them, nurse them, and even help mother produce
    them.
    Yes, you heard what I said. By nursing them, I don't mean
    we give them a bottle, I mean we nurse them, just like Mother
    does, from our own breasts. All three of us have been giving
    milk since we were ten years old, and Grandma figured we were
    each old enough to start helping our mother with the babies. So
    we each started nursing our little brothers and sister, and all
    three of us have been giving milk since before we even started
    bleeding, let alone had babies of our own. Grandma says this
    slows us down so we don't get pregnant too young, and our bodies
    are properly prepared to have children, when we do.
    She must be right, as none of us girls ever got pregnant
    before we were thirteen, even though we had been fucking our
    father, brothers, and grandfather since long before we started
    having periods at about ten. "Old enough to bleed, is old enough
    to breed," is the motto around here; and any girl who doesn't
    help her mother by having as many children by her siblings,
    father or grandparents as she could, was thought to be an
    ungrateful leech.
    On the farm, everybody helped out with the chores, and
    taking care of your male relatives and having their children was
    just one of those chores; like doing the dishes, or milking the
    cows. Only it usually turned out that WE needed milking, when we
    did these "chores" right.
    Not to mention, that we had almost as much fun helping our
    mother produce babies, as our male relatives did. I mean,
    there's nothing like feeling your own father, big brother,
    grandfather or even uncle, sweating and straining over you; as
    his thick prick slides in and out of your vagina before spurting
    hot thick life-giving sperm in your womb where it belongs.
    Just like today. Mother had me stop nursing Sherry about
    two months before, so my body would be ready for another baby.
    We all figured that if I was lucky, I would "catch" sometime in
    the next month or so, and maybe Mother and I could share our
    pregnancies this time, like Ginny and Mary did last time. While
    Mother expects us to help, she's still young enough to produce
    several more children herself, so she doesn't leave all the work
    (or all the fun either) to her daughters.
    This time, Mother has me sleeping with her and my big
    brother, since we figure it was Grandpa who knocked me up last
    time, and that my first baby was by Father. Besides, my little
    sisters are doing a pretty good job of taking care of my father,
    brothers, and Grandpa. Not that I would turn down a good fuck by
    any of them, if offered. Or that my mother would either. It's
    just that we try to mix up our partners as much as possible,
    while still remaining in the family. Grandma says that
    inbreeding is bad enough with us only fucking family members,
    without having all our children by the same bed-partner.
    So, while I've always preferred Grandpa, (Ever since that
    first day when I was about 7, and Mother sent him down to me and
    my little sister's room to teach us "how to make a baby") that's
    why I've been spending the last month or so sleeping with my
    mother and big brother; with him pumping thick gobs of baby-
    making sperm in our bellies every night and morning, and
    sometimes in the middle of the night, as well. Of course, I
    still fuck Father and Grandpa. (Not to mention my little
    brothers, whenever I [or they] feel like it.)
    But still, chances are THIS baby is going to be Jimmy's,
    then the next one will probably be Michael's. By the time I've
    worked my way through the family, my eldest son will probably be
    old enough to "help" me. And by the time I've run out of sons to
    reproduce with, I'll probably be like Grandma, and only be doing
    it for the fun of it, or to help the younger boys learn how. I'm
    sure glad I live in a family like this.
    After all my care to take my brother's seed up inside me
    properly, I almost got it on the bed anyway; as I barely managed
    to get a tissue stuffed in my leaking hole to stop it after Jimmy
    pulled out.
    On the way to the bathroom to clean up, I paused and watched
    my two little sisters "practice" making a baby with Grandpa, as
    the two little scamps did their best to drain the old man of his
    sperm, before one of their older sisters (like me) got to him.
    "Oh Grandpa, that feels good," said Mindy, while her little
    sister looked on and waited for "her turn." The little 8-year-
    old looked too small to be taking such a big cock up inside her
    tiny little slit, but it was obvious that the little kid liked
    feeling her grandfather's thick dong sliding in and out of her
    clasping little hole, almost as much as the old man liked feeling
    it inside her.
    For a second, I was almost jealous of my little sisters for
    being able to sleep with Grandpa, and fuck him, and go to bed
    with his thick prick stuck up inside their tight little cunnies;
    leaking incestuous sperm in their wombs all night long, like I
    used to do.
    Still, I did have at least one baby by Grandpa, and my
    little sisters deserved their turn. It wasn't as though I never
    got to fuck him any more. Heck, even if I was pregnant right
    now, there was a slight chance that the baby was his anyway, as
    my grandfather had left enough sperm in my womb the day before to
    impregnate several girls like me. Of course, by the same
    reasoning, it might be Father's or Mike's, or Uncle Jake's,
    or. . .
    By the time I was finished reminiscing on this, the action
    on the bed had speeded up, as Mindy was sliding up and down on
    our grandfathers' thick prick as fast as she could; while
    Grandpa's breath came in grunts and wheezes. I knew it wouldn't
    be long before the old man filled my little sister's womb with
    his potent seed. I was right.
    You could see the little girl's belly bulge, each time her
    grandfather's thick prick slid home inside her. Mindy is
    slightly on the skinny-side, weighing not much more than her
    little sister Samantha. Without seeing it with your own eyes,
    you would never believe that two such little girls even knew what
    sex was, let alone that both were sleeping with their
    grandfather; taking his thick prick up inside their vaginas each
    night, and getting the old man to squirt his sperm in each of
    their tiny little wombs where it belonged.
    Suddenly, Grandpa stopped thrusting, and Mindy sat down on
    him hard; while both of them shuddered in ecstasy. I knew my
    grandfather was ejaculating his seed in the little girl; and
    after a second or two, a white bubble appeared at the base of the
    old man's prick where it vanished inside Mindy's body to confirm
    my assessment that Grandpa was indeed once again filling his
    little 8-year-old granddaughter's tiny little womb with his
    incestuous sperm.
    Our little sister Samantha watched with eager eyes, as her
    grandfather did his best to impregnate her older sister. I knew
    that Sammy was aware of my presence; but was more interested in
    the spectacle of her grandfather breeding her sister, to do more
    than just acknowledge my presence. Especially, since she figured
    the man would shortly be doing the same thing to her.
    I almost shuddered in sympathetic orgasm myself; and I
    wasn't sitting so close I could see my grandfather's prick bulge,
    each time he sent another thick wad of incestuous cum squirting
    high up inside his granddaughter's belly, like Samantha could.
    Damn! Was that sexy! I could tell that my little sister was
    almost ready to cum herself, just from watching her big sister
    get fucked.

  12. thier thier thier thier by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Spellcheck you fat muthafuckas!

    1. Re:thier thier thier thier by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From dictionary.com:
      No entry found for spellcheck.
      No entry found for muthafucka.

    2. Re:thier thier thier thier by anonymous+cowfart · · Score: -1

      Try
      "Yuo = fag"

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    3. Re:thier thier thier thier by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      i could do that..... or i could ram my fist down your throat until it comes out your anus giving me enough of an opening to ram my giant 1 foot long cock and violate you repeatedly

    4. Re:thier thier thier thier by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      YAAT YHLIL HAND

  13. E! trolls presents.... by k0osh.CEOofCLIT · · Score: -1

    where are they now? The United Coalition of Trolls for the Abolition of Moderation died quickly as CLIT immerge on the scene and gained great praise as master trollers and page wideners. TUCTAM is now just one linux zealot that wishes he could install freebsd and dreams of making it thru his gentoo install without his mom picking up the fone and killing is leet connection.

    You sir are a homosexkulle

    1. Re:E! trolls presents.... by xdfgf · · Score: -1

      You smell like shampoo

  14. because caucasians are just to damn tall. by beckett · · Score: 1

    HardOCP had a illustrated trip of the ABit factory a few years ago, and while they had a lot of surface mount technology that was automated, things like PCI sockets were installed by HAND. While the cool automated, dust-free machines are good for some things, a lot of the components we use are cheaper to assemble with manpower.

    1. Re:because caucasians are just to damn tall. by Afrosheen · · Score: 2

      a lot of the components we use are cheaper to assemble with manpower.

      Or more specifically from what I've seen, asian womanpower. They're damn good with their hands. Even at the York (heating/air conditioning manf) company there were only asian women handling the delicate stuff like wiring up switchboxes.

    2. Re:because caucasians are just to damn tall. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      racist

    3. Re:because caucasians are just to damn tall. by Afrosheen · · Score: 2

      "by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 07, @02:58AM (#3658269)
      racist "

      Not to feed the trolls but my wife is from Thailand, so I think I can call asian people asian people. Go back to trolling little man.

    4. Re:because caucasians are just to damn tall. by seanadams.com · · Score: 3, Interesting
      things like PCI sockets were installed by HAND.

      Automated placement of large through-hole parts is generally not feasible because:
      • due to the size of these parts, they can't be handled efficiently by machines. It would take tons of packing material to put them in reels, and the placement arm would need a very large gripper in order to pick them up. Humans do quite well at pulling them out of a big bucket.
      • if the part has lots of pins, it's difficult for the machine to aling. These parts are often shipped in bags, and many of them will have bent pins. People are pretty good at fixing those one the spot...
      • there are usually very few such parts on a board, so its not even worth optimizing it if you could. You might have a couple PCI slots, a transformer, and giant cap, etc. It's not like inserting hundreds of little resitors by hand...


      Even some surface mount parts are installed by hand - you'd be amazed. Any kind of custom connector or non-standard package is probably installed by hand, even for volume production. SO-DIMM sockets, for example, are installed by hand - they have little plastic guide pins to align them.
    5. Re:because caucasians are just to damn tall. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      pedophile

    6. Re:because caucasians are just to damn tall. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Fucking asiaphile.
      I bet your wife is a fucking ugly bitch. Most of you asiaphiles seem to have the philosophy, "anyone will do, as long as they are asian and don't realize I am a dork who can't get a woman from my own culture".

      Don't get me wrong, fine asian women are fine, and I've been known to imbibe of the pleasures of asian flesh myself, but most of you double-chinned, fat bellied losers do seem to choose the butt-ugly skanks.

  15. Advanced testing methods by oever · · Score: 2, Funny

    from the article:

    Old 486 machines, laptops and dual CPU servers are sometimes running Quake III for days and days. All this to be sure that things don't crash due to a faulty memory module.

    Do they have job openings? :^p

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  16. Do they manufacture spell checkers? by Jailbrekr · · Score: 1

    pictorial tour of thier trip

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    1. Re:Do they manufacture spell checkers? by dingo · · Score: 1

      Isn't that phoenetically correct if your Irish though...

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    2. Re:Do they manufacture spell checkers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you'd bothered to read the article completely, you might have noticed that the authors are Dutch, and you know, English isn't the language that Dutch people speak natively... Suprisingly enough, that language is called Dutch and is fairly different from English even though they are both members of the Indo-European language family... For being non-native speakers, the tweakers did pretty good. Bold added for the benefit of the awareness-impaired.

    3. Re:Do they manufacture spell checkers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      pictorial tour of their trip

      Posted by Jailbrekr ; Should you really be pointing out spelling errors?

      But in answer to your question: Manufactured Spellcheckers

    4. Re:Do they manufacture spell checkers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And THIS is why I never participate in discussion at /. anymore.

      What a waste of my fucking time.

  17. Also ... by Niadh · · Score: 1, Funny

    They got the whole factory to run off peat! Very good for the environment; not to mention the last sunday of each month when they burn the âoespecial mossâ and get the bulk of England high.

    1. Re:Also ... by Fucky+the+troll · · Score: -1

      People tell me I used to live next to one, but I really can't remember. 4 years of my life are missing, but I know that they were great.

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      Roadkill is yummy.
    2. Re:Also ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      They're in the Republic of Ireland. Not England - the Dan-Elec plant is in Galway, Ireland - hundreds of miles away from England, in a (very) different country, on a different island.

      It can be akin to calling Cuba the "U.S.A." or Israel "Saudi Arabia" in terms of social faux pas...

  18. What the ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All I'm getting from the link are
    &lt html &gt&lt body &gt&lt/body&gt&lt/html&gt

    for
    http://www.tweakers.net/reviews/308
    http:/ /www.tweakers.net/reviews/
    AND
    http://www.tweake rs.net/

    Cascading /. effect?

    1. Re:What the ... by anonymous+cowfart · · Score: -1

      Try the Google cache

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  19. Here are the remsaining 10% by Adolf+Hitroll · · Score: -1

    LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- Dee Dee Ramone, bassist and one of the founding members of the seminal punk band the Ramones, was found dead in his Hollywood home, the Los Angeles coroner's office said Thursday. He was 50.
    th1s e4rly ps0t 1s d3d1c4t3d t0:
    0n by, CLITs O th3 sp0rks,
    "kl3rck" o o 4nd 4ll
    n0n o. .o 4Cs
    o . . o
    4nd o. .o p4g3
    w1d3n3rs o o 4nd 4ls0
    l3ngth3n3rs O 4V3RYWH3R3!
    tr0llz r0x0r !!! cr4pfl00d r3wlz!

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  20. OT: Dan electro by Phibz · · Score: 1

    Is it just me or did anyone else read Dane-Elec as Dan Electro?

    T

    1. Re:OT: Dan electro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      It's just you.

    2. Re:OT: Dan electro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I did too.

  21. for lazy people by dcstimm · · Score: 1
  22. REDUNDANT COMMENT, MOD PARENT DOWN! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    sorry, but the parent comment is redundant and must be modded down. there is already a comment like the above one that i posted earlier here

    notice the time differences between your comment and mine:

    mine: by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 07, @03:27AM
    yours: by Jailbrekr on Friday June 07, @03:35AM

    have a nice day you unoriginal cocksucking faggot!

    1. Re:REDUNDANT COMMENT, MOD PARENT DOWN! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Someone needs to SIMMA DOWN NOW!

    2. Re:REDUNDANT COMMENT, MOD PARENT DOWN! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      Someone needs a COCK in thier PUCKERING ASSHOLE!

    3. Re:REDUNDANT COMMENT, MOD PARENT DOWN! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      notice the vulgarity differences between his comment and yours: his: none yours: "fat mothafuckas" Hmmmm... I wonder which one will get modded up...

    4. Re:REDUNDANT COMMENT, MOD PARENT DOWN! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Don't come to us with your problems/requests.

  23. fuck you .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    .. ... and go smoke some man juice from your daddie and OD you worthless jobless faggot nigger, and shave that fro ya GNU/LUNIX hippie!

    1. Re:fuck you .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Awesome troll, I owe you a debt of gratitude for taking precious seconds out of your productive life.

  24. Man Travels 500 Miles for Haircut by Yahoo!+Messenger · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    NEW BLOOMFIELD, Pa. (AP) - Dave Gaskell is so finicky about how his hair is cut that he commutes 500 miles to his barber.

    About once a month since he started working for US Airways in September, Gaskell boards a plane in Cincinnati, rents a car and gets a haircut from Donald Stoops Jr. in New Bloomfield in central Pennsylvania.

    "Why not?" said Gaskell, 54. "He gives a great haircut. I'm kind of particular about haircuts."

    Gaskell, who retired from a 30-year teaching career last year, left Cincinnati around 6 a.m. Tuesday. Four hours later, his gray locks were being snipped at Stoops Barber Shop.

    He's been going to Stoops for decades. Stoops' father, Donald Sr., cut Gaskell's hair when Gaskell was a cadet at Carson Long Military Institute in New Bloomfield.

    "I have yet to find another place that cuts hair like I like it," said Gaskell, who served 17 years in the military and likes his hair cropped just a certain way.

    As a US Airways ramp agent, Gaskell's plane travel is cheap -- he pays just 80 a year for unlimited flights. He said he's flown to Orlando, Fla., and Seattle just for lunch.

    To Stoops, who has been cutting hair since 1955, Gaskell's trips aren't unusual. Customers return from South Carolina and California for haircuts and good conversation -- all for 5, he said.

    "You'd be surprised where people come from," Stoops said.

  25. spellchecker inside goatse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    i wonder if there's a spell checker inside goatse

    1. Re:spellchecker inside goatse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      If anyone would know, it's going to be you.

  26. Ah, finally.... by Idaho · · Score: 3, Funny
    Ah, finally a site that will be pretty hard to bring down using the SlashDot effect :)

    tweakers.net routinely handles about one million hits a day, go check their Statistics page, or check out some pictures of their servers and server room.

    Ofcourse the text is in Dutch, but I think you can read stats and view pictures in Dutch right :)

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    1. Re:Ah, finally.... by megabeck42 · · Score: 1

      woah, if you look at the pictures, and try to make sense of the text...'TrueServer heeft een gigabit lijntje met de AMS-IX en 100Mbit transit uplinks met Level3, Ebone, Telia en AboveNet.' - are they using a Juniper M20 to route 3 100meg uplinks into a gig patch to their switch? Isn't that just a teensy bit excessive?

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    2. Re:Ah, finally.... by Idaho · · Score: 2

      The sentence translates into "TrueServer (the hosting company) has a Gigabit connection to AMS-IX (Amsterdam Internet Exchange) and 100 MBit transit uplinks to Level3, EBone, Telia and AboveNet'.

      The sentence below that (about the Juniper router) translates into this:

      "Not many Dutch hosting farms can match such network connectivity. The TrueServer network runs on Juniper M20 routers and core-switches from Extreme Networks"

      So it's not exactly what you thought it meant - it's more like, they have a veeeeeeeeeeeeeery large bandwidth, with several upstream providers (so if, for example, KPNQwest files for chapter 11 - which they did in case you don't know - they don't have any problem at all :)

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    3. Re:Ah, finally.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It'll be even harder now that they've added a server 'just in case': http://www.tweakers.net/plan/154

      Siebrand

    4. Re:Ah, finally.... by Femme+Taken · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually we do about 1.3 to 1.4 million pageviews and more than 25 million hits per day. That's around 20 to 25 pageviews per second during working hours. Slashdot traffic adds up 2,5 p/s - not really noticeable. Fortunately we have plenty of headroom and no stability and performance problems with the database servers like we had before (MySQL 3.23.49-innodb is rock solid).

  27. YHBT YHL HAND by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    YHBT YHL HAND

  28. karma whore accounts, mod down a comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    since i asked FUCKING NICELY in my comment for his to get modded down, his will of course be modded down

    MOD DOWN THIS COMMENT

  29. WTF?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    What the fuck is going on with those abbreviations? What do they mean?

    1. Re:WTF?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I believe:

      You are a troll. You have lost in life. Have a nice day.

  30. why are memory factories in ireland? by httpamphibio.us · · Score: 2, Interesting

    aren't there a lot of hard drive and ram companies in ireland and the surrounding area? just wondering why that is, considering manufacturing seems to be about a billion time cheaper in asia.

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    1. Re:why are memory factories in ireland? by David+Kennedy · · Score: 3, Informative

      Being blunt, it's because we're cheaper too.
      The argument for keeping the work from going to
      Asia is that for R&D and smaller development the
      higer price point is worth it for higher standards
      and the ease of communication afforded by working
      with people whose native language is English.
      Don't read any bias into the above comments, it's
      what I'm told from working in the IT industry,
      and yes, I've seen projects go to Wipro and
      similar places.

      (I'm a software engineer for a Canadian company
      and my housemate works for a memory/disk
      manufacturer. Location: Northern Ireland)

    2. Re:why are memory factories in ireland? by Zathrus · · Score: 3, Informative

      The Irish government has been making it very cost-friendly to build plants there. Additionally, they have a great deal of fresh water available -- which is one of the lifelines of a semiconductor plant (the water is processed to be de-ionized for use in numerous things - cleaning, processing, and reducing that 80 molar HF to something more usable - like 8 molar HF -- fun stuff. Don't spill it on you).

      You also need a fairly well educated populace for a fab -- if you just take people with grade school educations they aren't likely to follow the very strict guidelines on cleanliness, dresscode, and operational procedures because they just don't understand what they're working with, and how easily it is to destroy. One worker can singlehandedly destroy several million dollars in production in a single day. So most fabs want educated workers (I dunno that this is necessarily a plus or minus for Ireland over SE Asia, just something to consider).

      Finally, one huge plus for Ireland over SE Asia is language. Most (all?) Irish speak English, so when a manager from the US comes over they can ask a worker and not have to go through translation (well... ok... depends on how heavy an accent, but I bet you'll have more success than you would in SE Asia).

    3. Re:why are memory factories in ireland? by jdesbonnet · · Score: 2, Informative

      In a nutshell:

      * Inside EU zone
      * Insize Euro currency zone
      * Natives speak English as first language
      * Good coroporate tax rates (10%)
      * Wages less than US and some parts of EU (althogh
      they are rising)
      * Time zone difference to US less than that of rest
      of Europe
      * Education system is well respected.
      * Guinness :-)

    4. Re:why are memory factories in ireland? by uberstool · · Score: 1

      Part of the reason the economy in Ireland is so strong at the moment was giving tech companies like this big tax breaks to move there. After 10 years or so those tax breaks expire.

  31. Not that exciting.... by seanadams.com · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This isn't a chip fab - they're just stuffing boards... still, nice photos of the whole process. I had a chance to see a shop like this in person, and took a bunch of photos and even some video (536K MPEG) of the process. The machines are quite mesmerizing (sp?) to watch, and it's amazing the amount of human and automated quality control that goes into manufacturing this stuff.

    1. Re:Not that exciting.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had a chance to see a shop like this in person, and took a bunch of photos and even some video (536K MPEG) of the process.

      Well if it's an MPEG, then why does it have a .mov extension, video/quicktime MIME-type, and I can't play it on any of my Linux players??

      (Yes, this is a troll. And with good reason, too.)

    2. Re:Not that exciting.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used to work at a wafer plant (MEMC). they have an interesting site that explains the wafer manufacturing process. http://www.memc.com

    3. Re:Not that exciting.... by M-G · · Score: 2

      The machines are very fun to watch...ok, maybe not for non-geeks. But when I worked at a company that did electronics manufacturing, it always liked watching the surface-mount machines stick the components on. Oh, and the wave solder machines are really fun. Watching a wave of molten solder welling up is something to behold...

  32. OT: Odd picture on first page by WhaDaYaKnow · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    I know this is grandly off-topic, but how do they manage to take an areal photograph, with the mirrored image being an office, including office-chairs and a person sitting in one?

    If you don't see it, look closer, you'll see what I mean,- the chairs are red.

    Now, I've been in quite a few business jets, actually, but I've never seen one with chairs like that. ;)

    1. Re:OT: Odd picture on first page by Wolfensteijn · · Score: 1, Insightful

      It's probably because that areal picture was hanging in an office of Dane-Elec ;)

  33. Re:gratz, propz to all dead homiez ta mere a poil by Fucky+the+troll · · Score: -1
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  35. Translation by teejie · · Score: 1

    "TrueServer has a gigabit line to the AMS-IX and a 100MBit transit uplink with Level3, Ebone, Telia and AboveNet"

    TrueServer is where they have their servers co-located. I think tweakers.net itself is 'just' on a 100Mbit link.

  36. Who cares? by Xcrap · · Score: -1, Troll

    So what if you seen a memory factory. We don't want to know. Ive been in a server room before but I don't take pictures of it and send it to slashdot! Come on, 99.999999999% of the slashdot readers don't even know how to Install RAM, let alone make it! What next? Photos of CMDRtacos house? Slashdot, News for photographers, stuff thats in jpegs.

  37. Man!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    This artical is funny I worked for IBM in the DRAM final Test and we had 40 2.5 million dollar Teradyne Testers to test the chips and this company uses old 486s and Computers running Quake 3. No wonder why we at IBM got out of DRAM.

    1. Re:Man!!!! by HardCase · · Score: 3, Informative
      This artical is funny I worked for IBM in the DRAM final Test and we had 40 2.5 million dollar Teradyne Testers to test the chips and this company uses old 486s and Computers running Quake 3. No wonder why we at IBM got out of DRAM.


      Did they fire you for being an id10t? IBM used Teradyne testers to test the DRAM because they were manufacturing chips not modules. Besides, the Teradynes have a very high throughput and allow a great deal of control over the testing environment. Somehow I don't think that throwing a module into a computer and running Quake 3 for a while gives much of an opportunity for quantity or quality of testing.


      -h-

    2. Re:Man!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its great for burn-in though.

    3. Re:Man!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still work at IBM, Just not working with DRAM any more, move on to bigger and better stuff. Note that I said "Chips" not modules., I just found this artical really funny because in the end this one company uses fairly cheap testing equiptment.

    4. Re:Man!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      They dont just use those pc's as testing equipment.
      The company owns highly advanced and automatic testing equipment, which is used to test a certain percentage of every order.
      They only use those pc's to check old types of modules for which they dont have testing equipment.
  38. I shot video of me dancing in my house today! by thedanceman · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Take that memory chips. Would you rather see some dance moves or some chips NOT move.
    Also I like the banner up top it says "Bigger Ads are Better!! OSDN's self serve system, NOW WITH BIGGER BANNERS." Yay for bigger ad banners on slashdot!

  39. you Sir are a faglagla by Adolf+Hitroll · · Score: -1

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  40. Cheers Slashdot by heideggier · · Score: 1
    A while ago slashdot posted a story on how intel chips are made, and the thing which really pissed me off about that article was no one seemed interested in actually going out to the factory and seeing how they are made. It was just ten or so pages of some dude talking to designers or management. I think I said "it was a bit like asking how shoes are made and just interviewing the guy how designed nike's gel shoe lace grip".

    Now, Im not dissing slashdot for posting the earlier article, Im just saying that some times it can be very interesting to go out and have a look around these places to see just how such and such corp make somthing, ie, big machines going real fast, really demonstrate how capitalism works.

    You can palm me off as just being some loser but IMHO it is the coalface of our society more then wall sheet or some building full of office clerks. And should be given as much consideration as say rumours of Apple buying SGI or whatever.

    So, way to go slashdot, Perhaps you could post a few more articles like this in the future when news is slow. Almost as fun as reading howstuffworks.com.

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  41. Q3 on a 486? by B.J.+Blazkowicz · · Score: 1

    "To test modules for which they do not have automatic equipment, or to test compatibility, they use a whole series of different computers. Old 486 machines, laptops and dual CPU servers are sometimes running Quake III for days and days. All this to be sure that things don't crash due to a faulty memory module."

    lol, I wanna see Q3a on a 486 DX/4 120 with 128MB EDO and a GeForce 4MX PCI! considering Q1 was running at 5fps on a DX/2 66 with a 1MB orchid VLB card...

    1. Re:Q3 on a 486? by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      EDO was mostly around during late pentium days, I'd be very surprised if any 486 motherboard supported it. Also, there were hardly any 486 boards with PCI, nearly all were pure ISA or VLB/ISA.

      I also never saw a 486 motherboard capable of supporting 128 megs of ram, though some specialized server chipsets may be able to.

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    2. Re:Q3 on a 486? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      actually the picture show on the website is not quake 3 but final reality a game that DID run on 486 machines. (and probably still does ;)

      As noted in the article some pictures were not allowed for general public. I hardly doubt that Dane-Elec would forbid showing a picture with Quake 3 running, but I guess this is all you guys have to do with :P

  42. Tweakers.(dot)NET on /. ?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    "Look mom, we're on /. today !"

    Ewww, tweakers.net on /. is way too much credit for this Radio Shack-buyers heaven. Their users are primarily involved in added a 3rd cooling-fan to their dad's PC. This PC runs Windows, as Linux sucks because you can't play games on it. Gimme a break guys...

    1. Re:Tweakers.(dot)NET on /. ?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm a regular visitor of tweakers.net and I can assure you that you are mistaking. First of all, t.net has both *nix users as well as windows users. Secondly, there are even non-hardware tweakers that visit that site. Your prejudice towards t.net are therefore based on nothing but your emotions.

  43. ARticle by mindstrm · · Score: 3, Informative

    mentions how "Overclockers think your chips can get hurt at 100 degrees, but in this plant, they heat them to several times that"

    Yeah. And overclockers re right.

    A solder oven heats the board assembly slowly and uniformly.

    It's large thermal gradiants that kill chips... differnet parts of the chip at different temperatures introduce evil physical stresses that mess up the guts.

    Just like putting a person in hot water.. I believe tests have shown that humans can endure some crazy hot temperatures if they are heated slowly.

    1. Re:ARticle by sp00f · · Score: 1

      offtopic

      I believe it were frogs that were tested , when heating the water slowly they boiled alive and when they were put in hot water they jumped out.

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  44. Tweakers and Netscape by frovingslosh · · Score: 1

    No one else seems to have menioned this, but I can't view the site with Netscape (4.79, 1024x768). It's slapping the photos right over the text, not exactly browser friendly. I guss I could run IE, but then the terrorists win.

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    1. Re:Tweakers and Netscape by jelle_n · · Score: 1

      You can use the printer-friendly version at http://print.tweakers.net/?reviews/308

  45. Not 100% tested? by Animats · · Score: 2

    The article indicated that they don't test 100% of the completed modules. That's surprising. I'd expect at least a quick test that all the bits work and none of the lines are shorted or open.

    1. Re:Not 100% tested? by M-G · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I suspect when they say "tested" in the article, they mean those are subject to long term testing. Usually every device that comes off the line in a place like this is popped on a testing jig to be sure everything works, but only a small sample is hooked up in a lab for extensive tests.

      The quick test tells you if the board stuffing is working correctly (and you want to know this quickly to prevent further waste), and the longer test looks for hidden defects in a statistical sample.

  46. Wow! by sbeast702 · · Score: 1

    That looks alot like my memory plant in my garage! Only I dont see a "Crucial Memory" sticker making machine and any "Made in Mexico" stamps...wtf?