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bluethundr continues: "And while we're at it. I admit it. I am an Okudagram collector. I go nuts and drain my bank account every time I see one of the control panels from the Enterprise (which I believe to be authentic and usually TNG's D, as that's all my bankroll will allow) on eBay and my home server room looks like a federation outpost. If you weren't aware, the Okudagrams from the show come in the form of black-tinted plexi that has a patterned film applied to it with photographic gels to add color and vellum affixed to said plexi with black masking tape. The idea is to backlight them for the effect they achieved on the sets of lighted control panels. Collecting these things, you get a feeling for what's authentic hollywood material and what's a cheap fanboy knockoff. I can't help but wonder if I am the only /.er to engage in this eccentric hobby... By the way, several control panels from the 1701 (including Spock's Science Station computer!) as well as an array of other authentic stuff from the 60s is also to be had for a (very) tidy sum on "the world's online marketplace"....By the way, I am trying to curb this habit of mine, hence this submission. :-|"
You'd've loved the 60s Hammond combo organ we had when I was growing up, mash enough keys at once=instant (TOS) transporter/phaser sounds. And as far as "No longer considered geeky", well, Trek still has a place in the Geek Code, right?
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Something smells like NERD around here.... *checks armpits for odor* Oh crap, it's just me! *droooool* But seriously, after all the pounds that Shatner put on during the series, I'd be worried that the chair has already developed its own ass groove that, while priceless in trek history, just would not work well with my own ass.
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This is pretty cool, although I can think of a number of other things I would prefer to use the minimum $80,000 bid on.
:^D
I wonder about that stain on the base. Looks like coffee. It would be interesting if that was the result of an accident (on set, or after the chair was given to the collector), or was caused by Captain Kirk holding a drink which was dropped due to an incoming photon torpedo.
Do the switches on the armrests remind anyone of an electric organ?
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I thought $80,000 starting bid was bad, but look, Ebay getting an 18% premium of the selling price is even more outrageous.
That's insane!
That makes the min price for the chair $94,400.
I thought seller paid the fees.... geech.
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I hate to say it, but your statement that Star Trek is no longer geeky is actually somewhat true. There is a growing trend amoung 15 to 25 year old hicks who are into country music to watch ST:TNG episodes, and said market has been eagerly captured by TNN, who have rebranded themselves as the "New" TNN. It seems now that whenever there isn't anything good on, I come crawling back to the old episodes that got me through so many lonely nights in junior high... when all the normal, "popular" people were off wasting there money at the movies and at the mall. Fortunately, having not wasted my money on such silly things, I have enough money to buy such an item... oh wait... I forgot... I didn't save it, I bought RAM instead. :(
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As time went on I went to University and lost interest around the time of Deep Space Nine, when Berman took over and made it into a 'franchise'. I think I've seen a total of 10 episodes of Voyager, but it didn't really 'inspire' me. Sure, the films give me a bit of a 'buzz' - I've bought them on DVD - but that was about it.
Now, some 10 years later, I'm moving house and find all my old stuff - the uniforms I made, the books, etc. So I decide to eBay the books (a collection of around 100 Trek books, including original 1960's editions) and it goes for £50. That's about $75 in your money. Pathetic, isn't it? I see the huge amount of Trek crap on eBay, and there's lots of people selling it but nobody really buying it.
Now I'm not even bothering with the rest of the stuff like the comics, etc. because the hassle of me shipping them to a buyer outweighs the benefit of the money in my bank account - may as well just stuff them in the attic and wait until someone comes along who might want them.
I can't seem to find any decent conventions or clubs in the UK either - all the clubs which sprang up (anyone remember Ten Forward, or the National Starfleet Alliance?) have long since disappeared.
Perhaps we've all just grown up. Or the constant milking of the 'franchise' left us all with sour tastes in the mouth. Me, I'm married with a kid now and enjoy watching Enterprise with my wife, and still I can't bring myself to throw out the old uniforms. They'll do for a fancy dress party I suppose ;)
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The chair really belongs in a museum. It would really be a shame if some private collector snatched it up somewhere and put it in his rec room to never see the light of day again.
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but doesn't anybody else feel uneasy about the celebration of this sort of thing?
No.
I have to say I feel that looking an auction for a studio prop that starts at $80,000 in a world while around one quarter of children go to bed hungry.
Are you suggesting that I pay hungry kids to let me sit on them? You cynical bastard!
Bob Justman's original handwritten notes creating the "Wesley Crusher" character for TNG.
Anyone want to organise a fund so that we can buy them for Wil?. ;-)
If you were blocking sigs, you wouldn't have to read this.
at least it wasnt "enterprise".
T&A star trek isnt real Star Trek.
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wouldn't it be cool to perform some sort of sexual act while sitting in Captain Kirk's chair?
oh come one.. any poor sod can sit in front of his monitor playing Personal Whack-A-Mole without plonking down $80K.
... oh, did you mean with someone else?
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Are you implying that trekkies actually get the opportunity to perform sexual acts?
Unless you mean "alone"...
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People who PRETEND to be concerned about theose hungry children instead of doing something about it are the disgusting ones. Why aren't you out raising funds to feed the children instead of trolling Slashdot?
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Before anyone sells their house for this low-budget TV show prop, give that Hoagy guy a call... if he can build his own cityscape he can probably set you up with a real nice Kirkholder for much less!
Props to Hoagy. He should be working for Hollywood.
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There doesn't seem to be much of a market for hungry children. There's more of a market for computers; you can sell yours, go to Somalia, buy a farm and participate.
Of course you would know it was fake and you could even tell your friends it was fake but they would all think it was really genuine (unless you let them see you build it) and you were really telling lies to avoid the house being targetted by burglars.
Main reason not to do so of course is the seat looks uncomfy as heck.
I have a bunch of 'Jackson Pollocks' , a 'Rothko' and a Mondrian on my walls. If they were genuine they would be worth several million, all they cost me were a few hundred dollars for the canvas, paint and a couple of art books.
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Mark Baard had an exclusive break on this story with WIRED back on May 22:0 . tml
http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,52700,0
He subsequently posted comments from William Shatner to his personal website:
http://www.baard.com/
So yes, you somehow missed it.
I picture it now. The owner with his face in the seat, trying to detect the farts of the original cast, and then inviting his friends over to do the same.
*shudder*
I hate to be one of those "remember when Slashdot [fill in blank]" people, but remember when Slashdot would have run a story on a guy that made his own and posted the pics on how to do it?
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but wouldn't it be cool to perform some sort of sexual act while sitting in Captain Kirk's chair?
Most slashdot readers would think it would be cool to perform some sort of sexual act Full Stop.
No you dont. Voyager was good and Ds9 was great!
The reviewer need not worry as Trek retains a vast amount of geekiness to it. Exploring strange new worlds and feeling up alien green women isn't for the faint of heart.
Actually, as a fair weather fan of the series, it's getting so i can't stand it. It's too clean and everything fits into a nice, one hour box. No sharp edges and the characters remain rather static in their personalities compared to other series of the type.
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Yeah, but wouldn't it be cool to perform some sort of sexual act while sitting in Captain Kirk's chair?
;-)
It appears someone already did- note the stain on the rug. Either that, or someone had a wicked party, and spilled a big glass of synthohol.
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Yes, it is amazing that this prop would sell for $80k or more, but go in the Smithsonian, as someone suggested? OMFG please! Just let it go. Take a step back, and look at your damn self. Stop. Just stop.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
as long as we're on the topic of collecting props, fox is auctioning off a lot of their old x-files props.
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/fox_auction/
Won't somebody please think of the children!
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bluethundr,
/. : I want to see pics of your collection. The items may be haphazardly strewn but DAMN I want to see what whiz-bang trek gadgets (expecially SCREENS or CONSOLES) you have so far. Amateur fotos will also be appreciated :-) /. mention itself, just like the guy that put a cityscape outside his window! Yours is a server room for chrissakes!
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IOW, show me the Federation Outpost that you have! That should be worthy of a
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6 bucks an hour in 1964 would be one a hell of a wage for a studio carpenter. And I bet he is probably crapping in his drawers!
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It is not inconcievable that there were more than one "Captain's Chair". Considering the number of practical jokes that were played on various cast members, like Shatner...it seems that he had an ongoing weight-gain problem as the average season went on...and they would purposely take camera angles to emphesize this...it wouldn't suprise me that they once made a captain's chair that was slightly smaller as a practical joke.
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I doubt it. My bet is your sister just has better thingies.
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Please note the stain on the carpet by where the Cap.s right foot would be. Think maybe he got too scared in a Klingon battle?
"Mounted into the base of the chair is a power cord wired to the sockets and, when powered, would illuminate the colored epoxy resin buttons and switches (one of the epoxy resin "lights" is missing). "
Hmmm... uh... one of the lights is missing here... and Naugahide... not real crazy about that material... I'm going to have to ask for $3000 off your asking price, what with all the repairs I'm going to have to make....
well duh, we just randomly gave them more money than they have ever even imagined before, for a crisis that definatly didn't require that much money.
I'd expect them to manage it with thought, and using it in other red-cross programs is the apropriate action once an apropriate amount is spent on WTC.
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Moron.
Since when have geeks been good at politics?
Too bad all the dot-coms are gone. One of them would have paid a bundle for it as part of their "branding strategy", and then some lucky employee would have gotten to take it home when they folded.
I've got some karma to burn so here goes. I am required to use Politically Correct terminology for various disabled, diseased, and ethnic conditions. Now I suppose an extreme Trekkie could be said to have a disability of perspective but that is taking a ridiculous thing (PC) too far.
There is no such thing as a `Trekker'. It is a pathetic attempt to regain the last shard of self respect they lost when Shatner told them to move out of their parents' basement and get lives. There's the trekkie who girlfriend is going to dump him if he doesn't give up being the head of his college Vulcan council, he gave up the pussy for the pointed ears. Another trekkie showed up for OJ trial jury duty in her Starfleet uniform.
In case the point isn't clear, Trekker is a pathetic attempt of people who take a tv show waaaay too seriously to wrap the mantle of Political Correctness around themselves. So Trekkies, move out of your parents' basement! Get a girlfriend! Get a job! Show up for jury duty in sensible clothes! Get a life!
Wonder how long before THAT one shows up on Ebay ...
But only for a second.
See, there's no cup holders.
Wouldn't fit with my lifestyle.
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bluethundr, do you have a girlfriend?
If I were you, I'd abbrev. the long words.
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Actually, it was in the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum for a while in a Star Trek Exhibit. I'm even pretty sure it was the authentic one from the set (I've got a couple pictures of me sitting in it around here somewhere). I think this would have been about eight years ago.
Get the people building their own aircraft cockpits (on slashdot recently) together with the people with the Star Trek bridge parts, and make a working simulator.
The one which caught my eye says:
Star Trek is not geeky it's Nerdy.
The old one is cheesy. They *all* have bad acting (with a few exceptions like Patrick Stewart). They all have bad writing.
In Star Trek if somebody has a bump on his nose, or slightly different ears, but otherwise looks human, he's an alien. What's that about?
I saw one episode of DS9 (the first), where Cisco had to teach an entity that lived outside of our time stream. If the thing is simultaneously at all points on our timeline, how can it learn? It should know now, what it knew 100000000 years ago, and will know 1000000000 year from now, because to it all three points are the same.
(Not a troll, I just *really* don't like Star Trek, or people assuming I do, cuz I like Star Wars, anime, etc.).
The list of items on the block is here. It includes such things as:
- Star Trek - "Mirror Mirror" crewman sash - $400.00
- Star Trek - Amok Time - Vulcan wristbands - $400.00
- Prop tribble from Star Trek - $475.00
- "Star Trek" playback disc of the song "Hey Out There" from the episode "The Way to Eden". - $400.00
- Star Trek - Frank Gorshin pants ("Let That Be Your Last Battlefield". ) - $400.00
I think I might bid on this one: Gorn head mask - Star Trek - Arena - $1000.00Yeah!
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The right hand side should have lights on it as well, it only has push buttons. Haven't any of you watched the show?
You can sort of see it in the still from the show. But there several close ups of the right control panel, and that is NOT the real chair.
That might be the one they build for "Relics" (STTNG), but that is not the original chair.
I'm digusted that you can justify using time to post on /. that could be used cooking for those hungry children and using money that could go to feeding them to buy net time to post on /. and using electricity that could be used to cook food for them to post on /.
Or does your luxury (time on the computer) somehow not have to follow the same rules as the luxury of some collector?
Herb
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Dude what? Your top baseball, tennis, and snowboarding athletes get along with the geeks? Those are GEEK sports!
Go ask the football and basketball teams if they want to play some Civ III.
I hear you.No one's forcing YOU to collect them. So step off, yo. Lots of people like football. I am not one of those people. I don't, however, think they are *wrong* for liking it. And, while wer're at it...it *MUST* be an old trick. What they did on TNG to achieve this effect is pretty much a slight variant on what they used to do on the 60's trek. Duh! That being said, one can never be absolutely certain that what you buy is authentic. But there are several things to consider which I believe will help point you in the right direction. Again, its not fool-proof, but often I'll 1) Consider the seller. If you've been watching this category on eBay you get an idea of who can MAKE these things. Once you know who makes them, (and a few of them are out there) you get a sense of who is good at it and who is not. There is one guy (flagboy20@aol.com) whom I believe to make truly first rate stuff that would look good in any collection. However, I believe him to be disingenuous in his claims of authenticity. I have personally witnessed him selling the "Ops" and "Tactical" and "Transporter" stations from the Enterprise D. (for but a couple of examples) many times over. I believe he tries to create the impression that these were parts of the Hollywood set through what I believe to be intentionally nebulous and misleading language in his eBay ads. He sells parts of the Enterprise as if he were a one man Okuda Factory! Some of the other people on eBay who make these things are just lousy at it. And there is a range in-beween. You get a sense of who is who. The person whom I'll genuinely believe to be honest will have only one or at the most 3 to sell. They tend not to put a lot of effort into the ad. I will speak to them (if possible) and e-mail them to get a sense of whom I'm dealing with. And you get a feel for the process. Some of them have bought them at auctions (the non-internet, for charity kind at which mostly non-trek stuff was sold) and others that I've dealt with have webpages about themselves with pictures of themselves behind a camera and actually *on* the trek sets, as well as t.v. commercial and sit-com sets. This could be faked of course, but why bother? To sell one or two panels with an ad on eBay that they didn't even put any effort into making? 2) BWARE of ANYONE who is selling these panels in "PERFECT" condition. Perfect is actually BAD, because the only way these actually come into a private person's posession is through the "Striking" of a set. At that point, cast members and crew get first dibs on the panels they want. But, one thing you'll notice when you watch an ep of TNG is how damn plentiful they are! So obviously even after cast and crew claim their booty there is PLENTY left over. So they all get tossed in the trash. As I understand it, there are many folk on the Paramount lot who love Trek, but don't work on the show. These people then go "dumpster diving" to find the ones they like. These are the type that most frequently turn up on eBay. Also, just in the day to day use on the show, these panels get damaged. When they are removed through the strike process, especially no stage hand is ever going to give it the TLC a Trek geekoid would. So you actually WANT panels to be a little scratched and scuffed and little chunks missing out of them. 3) Look for the number 4027x on the panels. 4027 was Paramount's production number for the show. So, 40273 would indicate a 3rd season episode, 40274 would be a 4th, 40725 is 5th, yadda yadda, I'm sure you already got it with the first example. Even if you are just watching the show you will notice this numbering scheme over and over again. Most knock-off artists aren't perspicacious enough to know this and you will see some pretty weird number cominations that come CLOSE (like I'm pretty sure I saw something like 42071 on one of flagboy's panels. I let him know this was wrong and "coincidentally" all of his panels had the right number from then on...) but NO cigar. Also the number "47" turns up rather frequently. This has something to do with (I think) Pomona University in Califrnia which many of the Trek writers attended. Its some kind of school in-joke,apparently. 4) JOKES. This is a point that the counterfitters often screw up on. People who make the panels themselves rarely throw "in-jokes" into their work. The buttons on the panels are often the names of cast and crew. One panel I got (which I belive to be "real" and was from a person who was a camera person) has buttons that read PA STE (Patrick Stewart, no doubt) LE BUR (LeVar Burton) GE ROD (Gene Roddenberry), etc. You almost NEVER see this on a knockoff! One guy had a BIG graphic of the Enterprise D. In it the depiction had hidden amongst the decks Smiley Faces, Mickey Mouse heads and a VW Beatle.One of my panels has a sticker on it that reads "500,000 km per second. It's not just a good idea. It's the law!" Again, these are just general guidlines. And generally, you can never be TOTALLY sure. But I admit I get a little charge out of something that I strongly suspect is a piece of hollywood in my home. And even if they are not authentic, they still look nice. Even if it weren't sci-fi hollywood prop related I would pay what I've paid (between $150 up to $600 for some really quite large pieces) to have a piece of authentic art that I wouldn't be skilled enough or have enough time on my hands to produce. In my prowlings on eBay (I've been doing this for about 2 years now) I will go to the main page and type in "trek panel -shorts" (to weed out the "Trek Cycling Shorts" that inevitably turn up in these searches. Totally different thing!) Satisfied? I don't tell YOU how to suck the chrome off a trailer hitch, do I? ;P
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" Yes, that's right. When you express an issue of political concern that you don't like, it's a troll."
Feel Better?
That is all the people who post drivel like this are looking for. A Quick dose of feel-goodism, WITHOUT the effort of actually doing something about those poor kids they pretend to feel soooo much pity for.
Hey you got your freebie good feeling in, how many of those kids got full bellies out of your worthless post?
IF you really care about those damn kids, then get off your lazy ass and do something to raise money to feed them instead of expressing hollow empty messages of "political concern" that are nothing but covers for envy that someone has the money to blow on something as stupid as an old TV prop.
Quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est
... oh, did you mean with someone else?
:)
I wonder if the kind of person who would lust after this chair would even be aware that sex can be a multi-participant activity?
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It was Whitewater, not OJ.
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"Another trekkie showed up for OJ trial jury duty in her Starfleet uniform." Actually it was the Whitewater trial, Jackass! "waaaay too seriously to wrap the mantle of Political Correctness around themselves." ...Then again. The origin of the term "Politically Correct" is Chairman Mao's Great Leap Forward.
Face it "political correctness" is no sort of mantel that any intellectually competent person who respects the free interchange of ideas and information would ever have an ounce of respect for. How on Earth can you derride enthusiam for a myth system as brainwashing while at the same endorsing that purile form of mind control you malodorous offal!
Quod scripsi, scripsi.
Most slashdot readers would think it would be cool to perform some sort of sexual act Full Stop."
That probably would have gotten a +1 funny if it hadn't been the same thought on everybody's minds. Heh.
"Derp de derp."
What would you do, send the money to Zimbabwe? So the government can appropriate it for a civil war?
/., that is.
No, that would be silly, you say. You plan to give the money to Save the Children. Surprise! A hefty chunk of your 80 large goes to some white evangelist, under the guise of "administrative expenses." (More like an expensive administrator.) The rest goes to food, sure, but along with the food comes a healthy dose of Christian dogma, with the suggestion that one's indigenous beliefs be espoused in favor of the nice white woman with food who's always filming commercials in the trash dump.
Or you could move to any one of a number of war-torn African countries and try to farm, until you were harassed and possibly killed by either the recognized government or nationalist rebels.
I tell you what I'm going to do, though - I'll spend the pittance of time and money I have from being a wage-slave on helping to solve problems that hit a little closer to home, and that are more in my realm of control (such as the ongoing effort for homosexuals and homosexual unions to be afforded the same social and financial perks that any other committed couple in the USA is entitled to).
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All those memos, like this one, start at $150US a pop. Given these are originals, can the purchaser not publish their contents electronically? I for one would find it interesting, but certainly don't have the budget.
Any geeks out there with dot-com-bubble cash (Mark Cuban?) wanna snap these up an publish for the rest of us?
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Anyone else notice this? A couple pics of the chair, some detailed closeups, and then a pic of the chair on the bridge with everyone lying around dead?
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The problem that you have is that I don't think charity is going to provide anything other than temporary relief. I believe in political change and that is what I work for. Part of political change is about getting people to question the values and ethics of the society they live in.
So suck on that dweeb.
Oh the all wise and all seeing 00_NOP has decided that "political change" is needed because some people dare to spend money they have earned on something that he disaproves of!!
If some fool wants to spend a pile of HIS money on a stupid TV prop he has the RIGHT to waste HIS money without asking some would be slave master like 00_NOP
Can the bullshit about starving kids, they are just an excuse to cover your real agenda, control over other people's lives. Seeing a would be slaver hiding behind "morality" is almost as big a joke as your political ideas. Anyone who is willing to sell himself into slavery as long as he can have a few lesser slaves under him isn't worthy of the title "human"
So go stick your slaver fantasies up your ass, you pathetic excuse for a human being.
Quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est
What sort of a looney tune are you?
One who isn't an Anonymous Coward.
We have plenty of mechanisms to control other people's lives - the law, the cops, the state pen being just a few.
The Control freaks aren't sastified (nor will they ever be sastified) with the current laws, the want "political reform", the buzz word for extending control, and they need an excuse to do it, hince all the BS about starving kids and the enviroment. They don't give a damn about the kids or the furbish lousewort, the only thing that motivates them is controlling other people.
You pay any bills lately? Surely you didn't sell yourself into the slavery of the electric company?
You are full of it. Unlike the state, I can elect NOT to do buissines with my Electric CO-OP if I wish. Having someone else deal with the hassle of generating power is a convinence I don't mind paying for. I get a benifit out of it, which is more than I can say for statist plans to forcibly sieze my money or to control my life.
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>You have no idea how detailed the replica was. >i used to spend hours trying to spot a defect, If you do, indeed suspect that the chair up for bid is on eBay is the one you used to own in Michigan. AND if you studied it as closely as you claim. AND if you did not notice a single thing diferent about the chair... HOW DID YOU MISS THE RIGHT ARM??? Silly rabbit! The original chair (which I believe the eBay chair to be) was on public display and had the right arm damaged. Before it was repaired the arm had lights and switches. That was how it appeared on TV. But when they fixed the arm, they didn't bother duplicating its appearance before the damage. NOw it simply has push buttons, no switched and no lights. So if the chair that your friend made was exact in every detail...then it should've had lights on the arm.
Quod scripsi, scripsi.
I can see your point but I have to disagree. It's more like a mutual fund, you dump your money into the pool and expect it to be used apropriatly. If you find out they aern't doing what you like, you use a diffrent pool.
OTOH if you sent them a check saying "for WTC fund" and they used that for gun control, I would find that mildly disturbing.
I live in a giant bucket.
yeah but voyager and DS9 had decent plotlines
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