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Peekabooty, Camera/Shy Released

An anonymous (how appropriate) writer sends "Peek-a-Booty, a program designed to circumvent mechanisms (such as China's Great Firewall) limiting access to websites, has been open-sourced. It's listed as a "Beta" on SourceForge, but the Peek-a-booty website seems to encourage people to start using it." And Doug writes "PC World reports about a new tool to encrypt text with a click of the mouse and bury the text in an image. After posting an embedded image on a Web site, someone can notify intended recipients by e-mail with code words such as 'Go to this URL to see pictures from my birthday party.'"

156 comments

  1. 1stPost by cyberlotnet · · Score: -1, Troll

    Yea yea

  2. Hello by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Introduction

    The cheese wheel inexorably avoids contact with the paycheck. The steam engine goes deep sea fishing with an often outer ski lodge. When the cyprus mulch over a vacuum cleaner hides, a ball bearing gets stinking drunk.

    The tornado

    For example, a submarine behind a class action suit indicates that the optimal fairy satiates an Alaskan recliner. When a mitochondrial bottle of beer is thoroughly dirt-encrusted, a most difficult blood clot underhandedly writes a love letter to a defendant. An earring pees on the cashier over some globule, but the pathetic crane sells another vacuum cleaner behind a scythe to a false wheelbarrow. If a chess board defined by a grain of sand makes love to a crispy cyprus mulch, then a particle accelerator flies into a rage.

    A Eurasian globule

    The feline minivan earns frequent flier miles, and the buzzard defined by a ball bearing trembles; however, a senator living with the girl scout learns a hard lesson from the inferiority complex. Any chain saw can try to seduce the particle accelerator, but it takes a real salad dressing to play pinochle with the inexorably precise paycheck. Furthermore, another seldom load bearing defendant flies into a rage, and a paycheck around a light bulb seeks a roller coaster around another bartender. If a crank case makes love to the diskette, then the squid toward a mortician meditates. Now and then, an insurance agent thoroughly avoids contact with a pompous turkey.

    A microscope

    Most people believe that an orbiting diskette trades baseball cards with a movie theater, but they need to remember how secretly a statesmanlike short order cook wakes up. A paternal roller coaster is usually financial. When the accurately varigated hole puncher takes a coffee break, a slyly smelly garbage can earns frequent flier miles. For example, the phony cheese wheel indicates that the tornado near a fruit cake hesitantly gives lectures on morality to a salad dressing defined by the corporation. The carpet tack near a cargo bay, some parking lot toward a warranty, and a stovepipe beyond a freight train are what made America great!

    Conclusions

    A judge beyond the briar patch laughs and drinks all night with the snooty chestnut. A raspy burglar conquers a bowling ball. For example, another plaintiff toward a bartender indicates that the ski lodge behind a fairy finds lice on a burglar. If some rattlesnake toward a cheese wheel can be kind to a blood clot, then the elusive movie theater self-flagellates. When a photon related to a turkey is most difficult, a self-loathing bottle of beer falls in love with a pickup truck living with the paycheck.

    - poopbot: who doesn't like scat?

  3. uh yeah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what's so new about embedding text in images, thats been around for years

    1. Re:uh yeah by Peyna · · Score: 2

      It's now available to the masses and very easy to use. This means that almost anyone can make use of it, and not have to know very much about it.

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      What?
    2. Re:uh yeah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      With new AOL Steganographer 8.0, embedding hidden text in images has never been easier! "All my friends and family use AOL Steganographer!" Now you can, too!

  4. What a shame by Spazzz · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It's shame that software like this is even necessary, but with the way things are going, we'll soon need this software here in the good ol' US of A as well.

  5. Something Must Break by The+Lyrics+Guy · · Score: -1

    Joy Division - Something Must Break

    To waste and choose or raise the dead
    With pain behind go straight ahead
    Room full of people grouping
    as one
    I can't break out now
    the time just won't come

    To waste and choose which way to go
    Decide for me please let me know
    Looked in the mirror
    saw I was wrong
    If I could get back to - where I belong

    To waste and choose which way to go
    I paused for one
    whom signs forbode
    If we were immortal we would not bear
    Washed up on the beat here
    Struggle for air
    I see you face still in my window
    Tormented clouds won't set me free
    Something must break now -
    this life isn't mine
    Something must break now -
    wait for the time

  6. Birthday pics? by ocbwilg · · Score: 5, Funny

    After posting an embedded image on a Web site, someone can notify intended recipients by e-mail with code words such as 'Go to this URL to see pictures from my birthday party.'"

    This product must have already been released since I've been getting emails like that for months now. "I just turned 18! Click here for hot pictures from my 18th birthday party! You won't believe how wild my barely 18 year old friends and I got that night!"

  7. er... by david_g · · Score: 4, Funny

    How are the chinese going to circumvent their firewall to be able to get this program that enables them to circumvent their firewall?

    1. Re:er... by Peyna · · Score: 2

      Since it is only 1.2 MB, it'll fit on a floppy, which would be very easy to slip through if needed, since I doubt they're going to destroy all incoming floppy disks in the mail. Or just disguise it like an AOL CD.

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      What?
    2. Re:er... by warmcat · · Score: 2

      Yeah, then the recipient can destroy it.

    3. Re:er... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      How are the chinese going to circumvent their firewall to be able to get this program that enables them to circumvent their firewall?
      That my dear Watson, is a Chinese puzzle.
    4. Re:er... by kilogram · · Score: 1

      It's the normal problem; To define recursion, we must first define recursion

    5. Re:er... by EverDense · · Score: 1

      Those 1.2Mb 5 and quarter inch disks were flakey.
      I'm an 8 inch floppy man, myself.

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      http://jesus.everdense.com/
    6. Re:er... by paulbaranowski · · Score: 2, Informative

      If someone sent you the IP address of a Peekabooty node (or any other proxy) to you, you could proxy through it to download Peekabooty for yourself. One of the main jobs of Peekabooty is to constantly find you new proxies to route through so that you dont have to constantly be getting IP addresses of proxies via email. So the bootstrap process requires a little manual labor, but after that it should require no intervention on your part.

    7. Re:er... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      tuypoinyg weirth vnoase//../...../....dsamnwed fdgingferrrr trrapo

  8. That explains it! by MxTxL · · Score: 3, Funny

    I guess all those x10 ads were just a bunch of Chinese dissidents passing messages ICQ style.

  9. "peek a booty" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    With a name like that, who is more likely to find and use it - Chinese democracy hax0rs or childpornists? I'm serious.

    1. Re:"peek a booty" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Professor: what's another name for Pirate treasure?

      Why I think it's Booty...Booty....B..B..B...Booty

      That's what it is!

  10. Free sites already foil this, IIRC by wirefarm · · Score: 4, Informative

    Long ago, I tried hosting the images for a site on Geocities or Tripod or somewhere and the HTML page on my laptop and Ricochet modem. Worked OK, but I noticed one side effect that would seem to be relevant - these sites were re-compressing the images.
    If you take a jpeg and encode some data steganographically and later the compression is changed, wouldn't that effectively remove the steganographic information? (Correct me if I'm wrong.)

    Now, if I was trying to communicate with terrorists this way, pretty much the only safe way would be to put the 'birthday pics' up on a very popular free site - no way I'd post them anywhere that had my name connected to it.

    I don't know if the compression thing is common, but couldn't something like that be put pretty transparently into "The Great Firewall"?

    Cheers,
    Jim in Tokyo

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    1. Re:Free sites already foil this, IIRC by EggplantMan · · Score: 1

      Jpeg compression is considered to be a lossy compression, so yes your data in your original image would be irrecoverable.

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    2. Re:Free sites already foil this, IIRC by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 2

      Some of the watermarking vendors claim that their watermarks can survive recompression.

      Watermarks are like steganography in that both involve embedding information in a file that isn't immediately visible or audible.

      Of course watermarks are supposed to be easy to find, which is a big difference. Ideal steganoraphy should be undetectable without a secret key.

      Then there's the question of whether the watermarking vendors are, uh, exaggerating.

      Wide use of stego technology could lead to a brand new kind of censorship. Any secret policeman could claim that any file contained contraband. "Attention all citizens! The file 'Los Angeles Police.mpg. contains encoded attack orders from Osama bin Laden! If you know anyone who has it, denounce them to your neighborhood committee immediately!"

    3. Re:Free sites already foil this, IIRC by joshki · · Score: 2, Informative

      They're not exaggerating. Watermarking can survive printing and scanning in addition to many manipulations. I know I tried it once just to see -- it's a weird feeling to put a watermark in something, save it as a jpeg, print it out, wrinkle up the paper, recan it, and still be able to get the watermark out of it. I don't know about steganography, but if the process is similar your information should survive.

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    4. Re:Free sites already foil this, IIRC by Vryl · · Score: 2

      No, this is not neccessarily correct. Stego systems such as drm watermarking are designed to to withstand image manipulation and re-compression.

      Exactly how well is open to much dispute.

    5. Re:Free sites already foil this, IIRC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Save the images with the extension .txt when you upload them to Geocities...hell, any extension other than a known graphic file format. You'll also be able to link to the files from external sites (such as message boards, IRC, emails, etc) and people will be able to view them without getting an [X].

      That is, until geocities starts looking at file headers instead of file extensions.

    6. Re:Free sites already foil this, IIRC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Technical answer: if you insert the data into the least significant bits of the quantized coefficients of a blockwise discrete cosine transform it should survive at least the jpeg compression the file begun with.

      Nontechnical answer: it depends on the software. With clever software - which Camera/Shy is NOT - it will be okay.

      (From a steg researcher)

    7. Re:Free sites already foil this, IIRC by spydir31 · · Score: 1

      there are methods that survive heavy recompression that show extreme resiliance even after being photocopied, scanned, and reprinted, being clipped rotated, etc. here's one though there's probably newer and better methods

    8. Re:Free sites already foil this, IIRC by realdpk · · Score: 2

      FWIW, free sites do this because they're being abused. There are Japanese warez groups that upload fake JPGs and GIFs, with valid headers, that contain nothing but warez. They have some custom program that assembles the pictures and uncompresses them. I've yet to see the actual program, but I've seen the massive amounts of bandwidth this sort of thing costs.

      Really, in a case I know about, warez ends up being about 30% of a "free hosting" site's traffic. (With naked kiddies taking up the rest of the majority).

    9. Re:Free sites already foil this, IIRC by wirelessbuzzers · · Score: 1

      (First question) In that case, can you suggest some clever software to steg stuff into JPEGs? Preferably PGP compatible?

      (Second question) Sure, if we FFT the data (or the like) it will survive the transform of one compression, but what about when it is recompressed at a lower ratio? Is there anything we can do about this (like using the lowest frequency coefficients)? Or should we submit our graphics uncompressed and let Tripod compress them once?

      Err, what? No, I'm just curious, I don't have anything to hide...

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      I hereby place the above post in the public domain.
    10. Re:Free sites already foil this, IIRC by mericet · · Score: 1
      Compression is not the worse 'attack' - as they are commonly called.

      By definition any steganographic technique is removable by some attack (think about random noise in the same domain as the encoding), but some are quite good.

      In any case, compression is not a major problem for any decent steganogram.

      By the way, if you are willing to use one of several pictures, it is trivially easier to make the information unremovable. There are drawbacks though.

    11. Re:Free sites already foil this, IIRC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
      In that case, can you suggest some clever software to steg stuff into JPEGs? Preferably PGP compatible?

      I know of no software available which could truthfully be called "industrial strength". But Outguess is alright, and may evolve into something better as time goes by.

      Sure, if we FFT the data (or the like) it will survive the transform of one compression, but what about when it is recompressed at a lower ratio? Is there anything we can do about this (like using the lowest frequency coefficients)? Or should we submit our graphics uncompressed and let Tripod compress them once?

      You'd have to alter the DCT coefficients by a greater amount. As long as the amount each coefficient is altered is more than the quantization level which Tripod or whatever uses, the data is preserved. I don't know if you can alter this parameter in Outguess.

      The problem here is that if you modify the DCT coefficient too much, you can start to see the distortion with the naked eye. That's always going to be a problem when lossy compression schemes are used to combat steganography -- the steganography will (probably) have to cause visible distortion of at least the same level that the lossy compression causes.

      Also, inserting the steg into DCT coefficients won't achieve robustness against other compressions, eg JPEG2000. If you want a really robust scheme, you will have to settle for tiny bandwidth - read up on watermarking technologies, as they aim to insert of the order of 10-50 bytes into an image, in such a way that one really has to mangle the image to destroy the data.

    12. Re:Free sites already foil this, IIRC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Produce evidence or be branded a liar

    13. Re:Free sites already foil this, IIRC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Incorrect. Stego systems cannot withstand lossy re-compression. DRM watermarking may be able to somehow withstand minimal lossy recompression (exactly how I have no idea), but that is another beast entirely. For DRM watermarking all you need to be able to do is detect the presence of a watermark. For stego, you need to recover a message with little or no tolerance for error.

  11. hmm by hex1848 · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    PC World reports about a new tool to encrypt text with a click of the mouse and bury the text in an image. After posting an embedded image on a Web site, someone can notify intended recipients by e-mail with code words such as 'Go to this URL to see pictures from my birthday party'.

    uhm yeah, make it easy for the terrorists...

    1. Re:hmm by karm13 · · Score: 1

      don't you think that somebody who finds people to do suicide attacks could find someone who could operate one of the existing stego tools?

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      making up good sigs is a hard thing to do.
    2. Re:hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      >uhm yeah, make it easy for the terrorists...

      Cars make it pretty easy for terrorists to build a car bomb. Ryder trucks make it pretty easy for terrorists to fill one with ANFO. Should we stop making cars? Should we stop renting trucks? Buses make good targets for suicide bombers. Should our metropolitan areas stop offering bus service?

      I don't mean to pick on you personally, but I'm getting damn tired of the argument that we shouldn't do this or that because it might make something easier for a terrorist. Just because there are assholes in the world doesn't mean there aren't people with legitimate uses for new technology.

    3. Re:hmm by 2g3-598hX · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, don't worry. Echelon is going to start downloading images from the internet now. Ha..the NSA is gonna end up with the biggest pr0n collection in the world...now, people, don't take that as a challenge.

    4. Re:hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok, now the entire world must first get American approval for every tecnology, to see if it could not be missused by someone else. Let's turn all airplanes illegal, because they can be misused by terrorists. Let's turn your computer illegal too. For now and forever you must use a DRM approved, key escrow enabled one.

    5. Re:hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      go back into your cave, where no one can harm you. life IS risky and no actions (like outlawing something) or government or whatever can take this risk away from you. just face it...

    6. Re:hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ranger that someone mentioned here on /. in YRO: MPAA Goes After Its Customers is also doing this.

      Take a look at their Government Solutions if you are interested.

      IMO the sum total of all information gathering on the internet by private and corporate bodies may exceed that performed by governments.

    7. Re:hmm by FlemLion · · Score: 1

      And I suppose that since 911 I'm not supposed to close my envelopes shut anymore, because then I could be sending a letter with content that can not be read ?
      Encryption exists and is necessary (think of using your credit card on the net).
      Banning a technology doesn't avoid criminals to use it. I think they still have guns, terrorists make bombs, ...

  12. Am I missing something? by FreeLinux · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From the description at the Peek-a-Booty site it seems to me that it is nothing more than open proxies running SSL. While I understand their stated goals, the whole project seems redundant.

    First, the project assumes that the governments are using a NOT list. This is a big assumtion. I would think that control freaks like the Chinese government would more likely use an ALLOW list. A small list of governmet sanctioned sites. This would, of course, negate Peek-A-Booty.

    If the government is in fact, using a NOT list, there are already countless open proxies continually popping up all over the place. This makes me think that the whole project is redundant.

    1. Re:Am I missing something? by kawaichan · · Score: 2

      Allow list would probably be way too much work, you mean people would just sit there visiting and decides whether these pages are gonna be allowed or not?

      I always thought if you want information bad enough, you can just sign up for an ISP account offshore, sure long distance is gonna cost you, but then again, you can see access all the information you want.

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      kawai
    2. Re:Am I missing something? by helarno · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Last time I checked, they used a NOT list and it was a very small list. For mainstream use, you could pretty much access anything you wanted with the exception of a couple of news sites like CNN and sometimes, NYT. The blocking was erratic though ... some months the sites were reachable, other days, they were perfectly fine. Of course, I'm sure a few dissident sites are blocked, but since I don't view those on a daily basis, I wouldn't know.

      But it's really a non-issue. Even 4 years ago, all the internet cafes I visited by default went through a proxy that pretty much allowed you to view whatever you wanted. Knowledge of how to circumvent the blocks were very common among the younger audience. I'm sure it's even more prevalent today. For China, at least, this project isn't really relevant.

    3. Re:Am I missing something? by nemesisj · · Score: 3, Informative

      Their implementation of their current firewall is very loosely implemented as it is up to each carrier in each city to do the blocking. They are currently rolling out a much improved system that will enable them to completely control and/or replace content, as referenced by several stories on slashdot. The attractive thing about SSL proxies is that they either allow SSL or deny it completely - making this arrangement very attractive. Of course, there's nothing that will prevent them from declaring this product illegal, which, unlike the US has serious ramifications if you're found violating a state security law. Additionally, they could just deny all traffic that doesn't run through their proxies. China currently mandates that a site must have approval for a site to be hosted in China. It's a small step to require companies to buy an SSL cert from China in order to reach a quarter of the world's market in the coming years. Bottom line - it will be a constantly evolving war between the freedom seekers and the freedom takers.

    4. Re:Am I missing something? by Sverdlov · · Score: 2, Insightful
      From the peekabooty FAQ:

      Do you think that your efforts to create Peekabooty will cause censoring countries to change their filtering policy from 'default-allow' to 'default-deny', that is, instead of blocking 'bad' sites it will instead only allow 'good' ones?

      This is very similar thinking as to what happened prior to WWII. The good guys let Germany invade its neighbors because they didn't want something REALLY bad to happen. If an evil madman tells you that you have to choose which of two people he is going to kill, it is still the madman's fault that someone is dead no matter which one you choose. If a government switches over to an allow-only system, this helps the cause even further. What we want is an end to censorship. The only way that is going to happen is that the government stops censoring its own people. The people have to make that happen. Not only is censorship possible, but total 1984-style control and monitoring is possible, and China in particular is heading in that direction as fast as it can. One of the benefits of Peekabooty is that it is bringing awareness to thousands of people around the world about the issues.

      In any event, a country has to overcome some major obstacles to switch to an allow-only system: 1) It's a lot of work with a lot of administration headaches (there are way more good web sites than bad ones), 2) the 'allow' list is bigger than a 'deny' list, which puts more strain on hardware that already cannot handle the load, 3) economic reasons (the cash doesn't flow if the commercial web sites are blocked), and 4) it will cause unrest.

    5. Re:Am I missing something? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are right..... for China this project isn't relevant. But, for the USA this is VERY relavant. As the RIAA/MPAA are turning more and more to Gestapo tactics, this type of network will help to shape the future of P2P and filesharing. The first major P2P client (ala Napster or KaZaa) to use the Peekabooty protocol will be very popular indeed.

    6. Re:Am I missing something? by IWX222 · · Score: 1

      I have to disagree with one of your points - a)I would say that there are a lot more undesirable sites than there are desirable sites. Think of how many warez/pr0n/crack/capitalist sites there are compared to the number of communist/anti-capitalist sites there are.

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    7. Re:Am I missing something? by paulbaranowski · · Score: 1

      China has made major strides in the censorship war in the past year. There is a report that is about to be issued from RAND (named "You've Got Dissent") that describes the situation way better than I could. A lot of the things you mention still work in China, but they are really putting a lot of effort into clamping down. If we dont do something soon, the good guys will soon be too far behind to catch up.

    8. Re:Am I missing something? by funky+womble · · Score: 1

      SSL can always be unpacked, examined/modified and repacked by the proxy servers. (I know that you can tell it's been done, but that's beside the point).

    9. Re:Am I missing something? by mrbnsn · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I want to reemphasize the point made in the parent: "For China, at least, this project isn't really relevant." The "hactivist" crowd has never been any good at doing their homework, and this is just the latest example.

      The Chinese government DOESN'T EVEN BLOCK THE GOOGLE CACHE. Any site that's blocked, you just look it up in Google, and hit the "cached" link. They did block Google, once, for about a week, until popular outrage made them give it up.

      That should give you an idea of just how "terrified" they are by the so-called threat the Internet poses to their hold on power. What they're really afraid of are the tens of millions of affluent, educated, urban Internet users rising up in revolt if their favorite toy gets taken away from them.

      That, and the hundreds of millions of undereducated, underemployed peasants and factory workers who don't have a future, and barely enough to eat, much less Internet access.

    10. Re:Am I missing something? by uucpbrain · · Score: 1

      Your misconceptions on this subject are common, indeed I shared them fairly recently, until some Chinese folks straightened me out on it.

      There are hundreds of millions of Internet users in China, and the blocking and surveillance there have become much worse over the last year or so. Hacktivismo *did* do its homework, and did talk to people in China (either directly or indirectly) during the design and coding process. I don't mean to be rude, but I suspect that the Chinese know more about conditions there than you do.

    11. Re:Am I missing something? by gorilla · · Score: 2

      5) Sites which are considered 'good' can be quickly changed to be actually 'bad'. In other words, if you allow "pink fuzzy bunny's home page", after spending 6 months making sure it's not got any bad content and none of the images appear to contain messages, then the next day the owner can upload a picture of fuzzy bunny with a secret message.

  13. 'Go to this URL to see pictures from my birthday' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Redundant

    That's way too much of a goatse link setup.

  14. Tina Fey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    She's just hot.

  15. Snake Oil by cperciva · · Score: 5, Informative

    This "steganography tool" is no more than snake oil.

    Rather than using a more advanced method of steganography, this tool packs data into the least significant bits of the image. Simple, easy, and incredibly obvious. This is to steganography what ROT13 is to encryption -- if you use it for anything important, people will laugh at you.

    In fact, this is the worst kind of snake oil, because it is not only ineffective, but also dangerous. The administrators of the Great Firewall Of China (for example) could very easily detect files encoded with this software; using it would then be akin to waving a red flag and shouting "hey, I'm doing something I don't want you to know about". Bad steganography is worse than no steganography, because it highlights the fact that you're trying to hide something.

    1. Re:Snake Oil by phaxkolumbo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This might sound like a stupid question (but then again I'm no steganography expert), but how exactly is packing the data in LSB's obvious?

      Doesn't that become obvious only after the inclusion of headers and such? I mean that the distribution of 1's and 0's in an image should be pretty much the same, regardless of any hidden data.

      The article is pretty light on technical details, so no answers from there.

    2. Re:Snake Oil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Here is a paper on the subject. Not very well written though, IMO.

      (from a steg researcher)

    3. Re:Snake Oil by phaxkolumbo · · Score: 1

      That paper was actually just the kind of explanation i was looking for. Especially the bits about filtered images cleared things up.

      Thank you very much for the link!

    4. Re:Snake Oil by Xenographic · · Score: 1

      Instead, they should probably hide their messages in recycled comments like this one... :) Use minor differences between them & you have a secret message.

      Unfortunately, this one is identical & apparently a KW. *shrug*

  16. nodes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    need a list of nodes to use

    1. Re:nodes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and have you block them? No way!

    2. Re:nodes? by crisco · · Score: 2

      People are posting nodes at the discussion site. Peekabooty apparantly needs some kind of gnutella style peer discovery or peer reflectors. Of course, those would then become blocked...

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      Bleh!

  17. Sounds like.... by tg_schlacht · · Score: 1

    they are anything but camera shy.

    1. Re:Sounds like.... by foniksonik · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      they want to make a little bit of money with no regard to their reputation in a global economy.

      It always disturbs me when I realize the sheer volume of pron and the number of potentially interesting people who may very well have ruined any chance that they will do anything worthwhile... for %5,000.00... a pittance, a trifling amount, one-third of a decent raise, the price of a car 5 ft. in the grave, etc. and in other words --not much---.

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      A fool throws a stone into a well and a thousand sages can not remove it.
    2. Re:Sounds like.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but when you are just entering the job market, $5000 is worth a lot more to you than if you're 30 years old.

    3. Re:Sounds like.... by Myco · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't get it. Are you saying that people who appear in porn are ruining their chances to have worthwhile lives? That's a very sex-negative attitude.

    4. Re:Sounds like.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      You're right. We need to legalize prostitution instead. That way instead of just downloading this stuff and whacking off: we can call the 1-800 number and have a couple of these nympho's stop by for some real sex. WoooHooo! Think about how much money a good-looking girl could make between 17-30? After that, she could become a "madame" and help to manage the younger girls. In order to have a girlfriend/wife in this country you have to spend a shitload of money anyway. Why not just make it so that the money goes towards straight sex? If you have a full-time girlfriend you spend about the same amount of money on her to get laid -- only you only get sex about 1/5 of the time. With a prostitute -- it's just a business transaction. You spend the money, you get the sex: guaranteed! No headaches! No periods! No bullshit!

    5. Re:Sounds like.... by Turing+Machine · · Score: 2

      They wouldn't be "ruining their chance to do anything worthwhile" if prudes didn't have the bizarre notion than sex under anything other than monogamous, heterosexual, church- and government-blessed circumstances tainted a person for life.

    6. Re:Sounds like.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd describe myself as a very liberal minded person; one with 8 gigs of high quality porn, and that's just what I have yet to burn :)

      But really, it is difficult to see someone in the same way after you've seen them choke on dick for the amusement of you and thousands of others. Maybe it is a prudish thing, maybe it is societal indoctrination of sexual values. Maybe it isn't: there is something in most of us that makes us want privacy in our lives, especially in sexual matters.

      I don't have a psych degree, so I can't really comment on the underlying forces that determine our attitudes surrounding sex, but I can say with reasonable certainty that it is considerably more complex than a set of values forced into us by restrictive forces in our lives.

      Would you be comfortable removing all intimacy from the act of sex and displaying it for the entire world to see?

  18. [klerck] Osama & Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    It appears as though Osama Bin Laden, the Saudi terrorist accused of masterminding the Arab attacks on the United States, was a registered Linux user! This is further evidence, as if any more was needed, that Linux and terrorism are inseperable, and that anyone using Linux is supporting the terrorist murder of millions!

    DTABN

    1. Re:[klerck] Osama & Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Sure, and if you're using whindoze, you're supporting microshaft, USA and the ongoing slaughter of countless people and nations. Having compared both damages, I choose to be AGAINST th USA and FOR the oppressed peoples.

  19. Mod up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Mod this up please. A list of nodes would be very useful right now.

    DTABN

  20. WARNING! Hidden message by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Click here to see pictures from my birthday party!

  21. [ wearetakingover ] by Cobalt+Weaponary · · Score: -1

    We are we are!
    The trools of the nation!
    We are we are!
    The trools of the nation!

    --

    Love Always,
    Cobalt

  22. Yeesh... by rdean400 · · Score: 1

    While it's good to have more and more foolproof encryption methods, the problem is there's an evil element out there that will make use of this for their planning.

    Of course, it's not like it does us a lot of good even when we are able to intercept these messages, with the long-term ineptitude of the FBI and CIA.

    1. Re:Yeesh... by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      the problem is there's an evil element out there that will make use of this for their planning.

      That's true of all technology. The best we can do is have the technology in everyone's hands, that way at least it can be used for good and bad, since the "bad guys" could discover it on their own anyway, and are highly motivated to do so.

      --
      I've had enough abrasive sigs. Kittens are cute and fuzzy.
    2. Re:Yeesh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      true of what? your generalizations sound good on the surface but you just love to post your opinion here without facts to back them up.

      tell me, what sort of bad people have taken, say, technology to produce potable water out of saltwater and made it a weapon? see what i mean by generalization...

      go back to goatse.cx where you belong.

  23. Do you Opera users love it wide? I know I do! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
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    -klerck

    DTABN

    1. Re:Do you Opera users love it wide? I know I do! by anonymous+cowfart · · Score: -1

      My page is still a little too narrow, could you make it a couple of screenfuls wider?

      --

      So I'm a pervert. Welcome to the Internet.
  24. slashdot is dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    look at the front page. 50 comments. 18 comments. 70 comments. then look at kuro5hin. they got almost 400 comments about a story about vegetarianism.

    i am not exactly sure why the /. leadership felt that it should ignore all the complaining about corruption and a need for democracy here. . . but they did ignore it, and are now feeling the long term effects.

    how sad.

    1. Re:slashdot is dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      there's a lot more stories on the slashdot frontpage, you big penis.

  25. This stuff needed in USA by WCMI92 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I can see a growing need for this kind of thing in the USA, as we allow the Megacorp cartels like the RIAA/MPAA to chop off and "firewall" so to speak, the individual.

    Remember the Napster trial? The infamous statement by a RIAA honcho "We will firewall them at their PC"? And then go read the story just below this one where AOLTW's RoadRunner is port blocking Kazaa.

    I find it very interesting phinisophically, that the net result of "Big Government (Communist)" and "Big Business (Capitalist)", when left unrestrained by civil law that is supposed to protect and affirm the rights of the individual, produce the SAME RESULTS!

    In the communist system, as China is, the governmment IS the corporation. It makes up "laws" as it goes along, always to benefit those in power. In the USA, we've allowed corporations to achieve similar results by the fact that our Congress and Presidents are passing and signing laws WRITTEN BY THEM, as the DMCA and CBDTPA are.

    Unfortunately for the tyrants, both governmental and corporate, there are a lot of Thomas Paine's in the world, and they tend to be creative people. Hence this program that lets you circumvent firewalls.

    --
    Corporatism != Free Market
    1. Re:This stuff needed in USA by SHEENmaster · · Score: 1

      True.

      The rulers of a society themselves have little or nothing to do with the outcome. Socialism is simply totalitarian democracy. Communism is simple totalitarian Republiscism.

      Assuring freedom for the individual should come paramount in a society. Followed by freedom for corporations and governments. The individual should always come first.

      We should break trade negotiations with China for the simple fact that they are totalitarian. It isn't an issue of race, but an issue of civil liberties. A good friend of mine is Chinese.

      Why do we claim to be an enlightened nation, yet actively trade with China? They need us much more than we need them.

      One of the slogans for communism is that with everyone equal, there is no slavery and no discrimination. If you look at it, all but those in the high levels of government are slaves. If you look at it, all but those in the high levels of government are discriminated against.

      --
      You can't judge a book by the way it wears its hair.
    2. Re:This stuff needed in USA by WCMI92 · · Score: 2

      "Why do we claim to be an enlightened nation, yet actively trade with China? They need us much more than we need them."

      Two reasons:

      1. The extreme on the left in this country, the ones who's religion is government, LIKE China and wish the USA were more like it...

      2. The megacorporations, who's religion is cheap labor.

      Yet another stunning example that the extreme right and extreme left produce the SAME results, ultimately.

      BTW, I don't necessarily agree that Communism is extreme Republicanism, I think socialism/communism are left wing totalitarianism. Right wing totalitarianism would be something more akin to what exists in the middle eastern Islamic fundamentalist states.

      Much as I am devoted to my religion (Christianity), I DO NOT want priests running the country, if you catch my drift.

      But they both produce similar results, an oppressed people whom have no individual rights or choices.

      "One of the slogans for communism is that with everyone equal, there is no slavery and no discrimination. If you look at it, all but those in the high levels of government are slaves. If you look at it, all but those in the high levels of government are discriminated against."

      Communism is state slavery. Where there is no individual liberty, nor right of private property, the State owns everything, and therefore, everybody. Should it surprise anyone that in EVERY so called "egalitarian" system, which Marxist-Lenninism-Maoism purports to be, that some (the few elites) are "more equal than equal".

      Our own system is the same way, looking at the easy access the rich have to legislation, but has the virtue of not having YET opressed the average individual to the extreme of a communist state.

      YET being the operative word. Legislatively, we are headed there. Rapidly. Not at the behest of government, but at the behest of the CORPORATIONS...

      I see things like Peakabooty as 21st century civil disobedience. Sooner or later, a rebellion of the individual against the collective WILL happen, or else we will become nothing more than uniformed drones in the collective.

      --
      Corporatism != Free Market
  26. Where? by PDG · · Score: 1

    Has anyone found where to download Camera/Shy? I'm really interested in trying this software out but can't find it anywhere.

    Help?

    --
    "Where is my mind?"
    1. Re:Where? by tg_schlacht · · Score: 1

      I went looking for it too. Didn't find it at the Hactivismo site. They intended to release it yesterday at H2K2. I expect that within a few days it should be findable.

      Other steg software includes "blindside", "hide in picture", "in plain view", "stash it", "jphide"

      The above are all ones I found several months ago when I started looking at steg software. Google should turn up lots of stuff to look at.

      Look for "stegdetect" for a program that can analyze images to indicate if they may contain steganographic data. Running it on the images from my web cache was interesting.

    2. Re:Where? by O0o0Oblubb!O0o0O · · Score: 1

      i ran into the same problem. this news post is obsolete: first of all, the release of peekabooty was reportet elsewhere earlier and secondly, mentioning camera/shy in the topic and then not providing a link to is pretty much useless

    3. Re:Where? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here you can take it. But hope that you do for the wright behavior

      http://members.cox.net/osioniusx/

  27. Mod this up! # +5; Informative # by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Eating a woman's pussy is about the most wonderful thing you can do for her. It makes her feel loved, admired, sexy, and of course it makes her cum like crazy. Many women prefer it to intercourse, and for most, it is the easiest way to cum with a man. You may have the littlest dick on the planet, but if you give great head, you will be appreciated as a fabulous lover. Yes, it's that important. Besides, lots of women expect it these days - you might as well know what you're doing.

    First off, guys seem to have a strange love/hate relationship with women's genitalia. Guys that can't wait to get their dick into one are often reluctant to put their face "down there". For every guy who says he loves to eat pussy, there's another one who's squeamish. Women know this, and it affects their ability to lay back and enjoy the experience. There is nothing more exciting to a woman than to know that her partner finds her delicious. Don't be coy; tell her. When a guy fingers a lady and then smells, licks, sucks the juice off his finger and sighs as if in heaven, she knows this is her lucky day.

    What if your sweet lady doesn't smell or taste very sweet? Don't suffer. (Don't complain, either.) Take a nice hot shower or bath together. Lather up both of your bodies and slide them together. It's like a whole body fuck. Soap up her vulva, washing between her outer and inner lips. Spread her lips apart and gently wash her clitoris. Hey, don't stop - this feels great! Run your soapy hand down the crack of her ass, and rub a finger all around her anus. You can stick one finger in and wash around inside too, if you anticipate any anal play, and I suggest you do. But don't put those soapy fingers up her vagina. Instead, rinse them off well and stick one or two inside, making a circular motion. Think about washing the inside of a tall glass - same thing. Now wasn't that fun? And now you can feel free to let your tongue wander anywhere it pleases...

    So now what? You've found a comfy spot to play, you've been kissing passionately, your tongues darting around each other's mouths like playful otters. You've moved down to nibble one of her hardening nipples and she's starting to groan, grinding her pelvis against your stomach. STOP. I know it was just starting to get good. But was she really groaning and humping you, or was it your own excitement you were detecting? I strongly prefer to be excited before a guy starts plunging his tongue into my inner recesses. Use your judgement, and kiss, lick, and fondle your way down her stomach, up her thighs, until she's arching up her back trying to get you to eat her. Of course, if she really was groaning and grinding, go for it... I also don't particularly enjoy a guy endlessly nibbling my inner thigh while my clit is quivering in anticipation.

    POSITIONS

    If the woman you are with is somewhat hesitant about your going down on her, start off with her lying on her back, perhaps half-sitting. Lay down between her legs, with her legs over your shoulders. She may enjoy laying or sitting at the edge of the bed with you kneeling. She can also straddle your face, but be prepared to get very wet. There are endless varieties of positions where you can press your face up to her cunt, some of which strike me as more acrobatic than erotic, but feel free to experiment. And then there's 69...

    69 is one of my favorite positions. On the plus side, you both get to enjoy the sublime sensations of getting head, simultaneously. The upside down positioning of a woman's pussy and your mouth is an easy fit and there's more room for your hands. On the negative side, it's a less than ideal position for a woman to give head. Plus, if you need to read this article, you may be better off concentrating your energies on pleasing her, without too much distraction. But even for experienced 69'ers, it's easy to short-change your partner. "It feels soooo good, I'm just gonna stop for a second and concentrate on what you're...aaaarrrgghhh". Get the picture? Some show of will-power is in order.

    69 can be done male on top, female on top, or side by side. The latter two are easier, though it's more restful with both partners laying down. Some women love being licked on all fours, so if female-on-top 69 drives her wild, take the hint and find some other ways to eat her in this position. I happen to enjoy male on top, but for many women this is a sure choking position. If a woman can, or wants to try, to deep throat you, this is THE position. When her head is thrust back you can really slide your cock all the way down her throat. But don't forget what you're supposed to be doing!

    So there you are staring at it - the mysterious hole from whence you came, and into which you hope to cum again... First, an anatomy lesson...

    THE CLITORIS

    Before I go any further, a few words about the clitoris, accent on the first syllable. Most of you know it, but for those who don't, it is THE woman's sex organ, period. It may feel great to be fucked vaginally, anally or otherwise, but if the stimulation is not right there, on the clitoris, you're ignoring the place that's going to make her cum, and presumably that's why you're reading this, right? It's right there at the top juncture of her inner lips, a small knob of pink flesh. This is where it's at boys, and don't forget it. Almost any licking and sucking of the labia or vaginal entrance is going to feel just dandy; just remember that this is pleasurable teasing, not the main event. I can't tell you how many guys have thrust their tongues up my vagina thinking that this was going to make me cum. They were wrong. Of course, with a little manual stimulation....but I'm getting ahead of myself.

    Women feel differently about how much direct stimulation they can take on their clitoris. Some women will adore it if you suck hard on their exposed clits, others will shriek in pain. You may encounter a woman who is completely unable to take direct stimulation of her clit; the goal is still the same, but you'll have to stimulate it indirectly, such as through her labia. IMPORTANT NOTE: Often, what is unacceptably rough at first may be fine after she's very excited. The fact is, most women really need a good bit of stimulation before a targeted attack on their clitoris, but once they're there, that's where you want to devote your attention.

    The key here is go slow, ask questions, and if she's comfortable with it, leave the lights on and really explore. Body language often does tell what feels best, but I promise, she will appreciate your attentiveness if you ask outright. If she seems shy, get her to guide your hands and mouth with her own hand, and pay attention. If she starts bucking up against your mouth and gasping in ragged little breaths, for God's sake, don't use this opportunity to try something different. Just keep doing exactly what you're doing.

    THE TONGUE

    I want to reiterate, there is almost nothing you can do that won't feel terrific, so relax! I promise, you may be confused and uncertain, but she's in heaven. Any licking and sucking of the labia, vaginal entrance, clitoris, or anal area is going to feel just great, and I'd no sooner tell guys to "do it exactly like this" than I would tell every chef to follow the same recipe. But for those who are compelled to RTFM, here are a few techniques that you might like to try:
    • Try lapping her pussy from vaginal entrance up to her clit, leaving your tongue soft and jaw relaxed. This is a good way to start your tonguing.
    • Run your tongue between the inner and outer labia on one side, while holding the two together with your lips. Good job, now do the other side.
    • Fuck her pussy with your tongue - in and out, around and around, etc. This feels nice. Not wonderful or incredible or earth-shaking; nice.
    • Spread her outer lips with your hand. Then, with your tongue pointed and stiff, gently flick here and there. Feel free to roam, but keep coming back to her clit. This drives some women wild, and others can't take it. Some may prefer that you always leave your tongue soft, so when you try this, pay attention to whether those moans are ecstacy or pain.
    The following techniques should not be introduced until your partner is really hot (i.e. she's no longer coherent). These are very intense actions which may be "too much" for some women, even when nearing orgasm.
    • With her clit still exposed, give it a quick little suck - pulling it into your mouth briefly and letting it go. This is a lot like licking a bit of cake batter off of your pinky. This feels incredible, and is a fine thing to do if you feel like torturing her (see PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER below).
    • Take her exposed clit into your mouth and gently (at first, anyway) suck on it, simultaneously flicking your tongue over and around it. This can be done very lightly or very aggressively, and combined with fingering, will usually rapidly produce an intense orgasm.
    • Another choice technique involves rolling your tongue into a tube. If you can't do this with your tongue, you can't learn it - it's genetic. For those who can, this works best in an inverted or 69 position. Roll your tongue into a tube around the shaft of her clitoris. Slide it up and down; in effect, your tongue makes a tiny pussy for her clit to fuck. This also is likely to bring her over the edge.
    FINGERS

    Fingers are a valuable adjunct to eating pussy. Most women masturbate by pressing a finger or fingers over their clit, possibly "thru" the skin of their inner or outer lips, and vigorously rubbing in a circular or back-and-forth direction. You can do this too, and it is most helpful to ask, or better yet, have her show you how she likes it done. You will never be a good lover until you can bring your woman to climax with your hands. When you fuck her from behind, or up her ass, or really in any position which doesn't allow her to simultaneously rub her vulva against your body, reach down or around and rub her clit. I know it's distracting, but just do it anyway. One important point to note: make sure that your fingers are well lubricated. There is nothing more uncomfortable (and sometimes downright painful) than a dry finger roughly rubbed across one's clitoris.

    Of course, that's not all you can do with your fingers. One technique which is very exciting is to spread her lips wide apart with one hand, and with your index finger straight like a pencil, flick the side of it rapidly across her clit. This motion alone will often bring a woman to orgasm. Combining this with the addition of some tongue action elsewhere is nothing short of bliss.

    Sticking one or more fingers inside her vagina is also wonderful. You can simply move them in and out (this feels best with at least two or three fingers, pushed in hard), or wriggling them around. A particularly intense motion is to face your hand so that you have two fingers inside her with your palm facing the front of her body. Now move your fingers rapidly, as if waving hello. You are aiming to stimulate a particular part of the woman's vagina - namely the lower anterior (front) part. When combined with sucking her clit, this is nearly certain to bring her to a fast and intense climax.

    An excellent way to begin manual stimulation is to stick one (and later two) fingers inside her, with your palm cupped over the mons area. I'm talking about that fleshy "mound" over her pubic bone. Your finger goes in and out and the ball of your hand is pressed hard against her vulva. You may want to rub or even shake the entire area with your palm.

    Fingers also do nice things to tight little butt holes, but that's a whole other story...

    ANAL PLAY

    This stuff is purely optional. If anal play doesn't turn you on, don't do it. If you're uncomfortable, she'll pick up on your feelings and start wondering if it's her pussy that's turning you off. Don't feel that you can't be a good lover without anal play; you can.

    Cleanliness is of the essence. (remember that nice soapy shower?) Scoop out some luscious juices (from a very wet pussy) with your finger and rub it around her anus. (If she isn't well lubricated, saliva works too.) If that's all you or she feels comfortable with, fine - it still feels great. But I think most women enjoy the feel of a finger pushed up their ass while they're being fucked or eaten. You need to be gentle, possibly even leaving your finger still. Try moving it in and out a little, or around in a circle. If she starts moaning, you know you're doing something right.

    It's really fun to feel a woman's anus rhythmically squeezing your finger as she cums. (And it's great for her, too) You're probably thinking about what that would feel like around your dick, and it's something you should certainly explore. Ass-fucking is somewhat out of the scope of this article, but suffice to say, if she doesn't like a finger up her butt, she sure as hell won't want your big dick up there. Even if she does enjoy this sort of play, she may still be somewhat apprehensive about putting something so large up there. The keys to success are sufficient (i.e. copious amounts of) lubrication (a water-soluble type such as K-Y, which is safe for condoms), relaxation on her part, and a slow, gentle, approach. She'll certainly tell you if she wants you to thrust harder or deeper. And remember, if you want to feel that delicious squeezing around your cock, reach around and diddle that clit!

    As for anallingus - why not? Don't feel like you HAVE to do it to satisfy your woman. But if the idea turns you on, great. Let your tongue rove as it pleases. It's not necessary to actually put your tongue inside her butt to stimulate the area. Back and forth, around and around, you get the picture.

    One hygiene note: once that finger (or your penis) has been inside her ass, don't even think about putting it anywhere else. Carelessness in this regard can cause a horrendous infection.

    MENSTRUATION

    I haven't met a lot of men who are completely comfortable going down on a woman when she has her period. But some are. Most women are at their horniest before and sometimes during their period. You should definitely find a way to make her cum when she's bleeding, be it thru intercourse, manual, or oral stimulation. If you feel comfortable going down on her, great. It's perfectly safe. You may suggest that she insert a tampon, and then wash up. (As you now know, you don't need to get anywhere near her vagina to make her cum.) Or you could lay down a few old towels, turn out the lights, and forget about it.

    PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER

    I think variety is crucial. Some guy posted an article detailing a road map of kissing and licking (first here, then here, etc.) Much better to do the unexpected; sometimes a hungry, aggressive approach, other times a laid-back, leisurely one. You can even even include your nose, or your chin into the act. Start slow, that's the key, and let your lover guide the speed of the crescendo. In all cases, start gently. Roughness and clumsiness are big turn-offs. As she gets more and more excited, pay more attention to her clitoris. When she's three breathes away from cumming, moving your mouth off or away from her clit is agony. That's fine if you're intentionally torturing her, just understand that this is what you are doing. The only prohibition is to be reasonably gentle with her clit. Nibbling or biting is fine elsewhere, but we're talking about a sensitive spot.

    Speaking of prolonging the agony... I think this is great fun. Bring your partner just to the edge of orgasm, and stop. This is not easy unless you really know your lover well. Instead, just have her help you. Say, "Grab my head and stop me just before you think you're gonna cum." Then take your sweet time. Blow on her clit, take it into your mouth just briefly, flick it just the very slightest bit. You will have this woman squirming and moaning like she's dying. Finger her deeply, enjoy the ecstasy you are imparting, and finally, have pity. Let the poor woman cum.

    UUUUNNNNGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!! (or, I'M COMING!!!)

    Okay, she's practically suffocating you, she's pressed so hard against your face; she's screaming and bucking up in the air; you feel her pussy contracting wildly - how long should you keep it up?? The simple answer is, until she makes you stop. Some women may stop you after five seconds from the start of their climax, others may be able to roll right into another orgasm if you keep going. Do come up for air, but remember, her excitement does not drop off as sharply as yours does. Play it safe by continuing the stimulation.

    How many times does she need to cum? Some women are very content to have one orgasm. A whole lot of women would really like to cum again, but need about five minutes to recoup. Many women are so sensitive right after they cum that they may push your head violently away. This doesn't necessarily mean they've had enough, only that you need to stop for a few minutes. In fact most women, given a short rest between, are capable of cumming again and again. A smaller percentage of women are able to cum repeatedly with continued stimulation. This is the much-touted multiple-orgasm that is experienced by a minority of women. I know this makes it difficult to know when enough is enough, but there's a simple answer: ask her.

    GODI'MSOEXCITEDITFEELSGREATBUTIJUSTCAN'TCOME

    It happens to all of us sometimes - distraction, embarrassment, anxiety, or just an inability to "let go". What do you do about it? The first question is, can she easily bring herself to a climax in the privacy of her own home. If the answer is no - then she needs to do some homework. There are two books on the subject that I know of: For Yourself: The Fulfillment of Female Sexuality by Lonnie Barbach, and Sex for One: The Joy of Selfloving by Betty Dodson; pick up one. Then tell her to read it, study it, and practice, practice, practice!

    Now if your partner is orgasmic only when alone - ask her point blank: "Is there something different I can do?" Many women are shy about criticizing their lovers, but if asked outright will surprise you with a very specific answer. It may be a simple matter of mechanics, like a little to right please, or not so rough, or more pressure and faster. Ah... perfect.

    But suppose everything is wonderful. She says you're doing everything right but she just can't cum. There are two probable causes: selfconsciousness and/or self-loathing. For women who can't help watching themselves, the best approach is to eliminate anything that focuses her attention on what the two of you are doing. This is a "be here now" kind of thing - definitely not an introspective activity. Get that mirror off the ceiling. Dim the lights or turn them off completely. Put on some soft music. Share a glass of port. (I said A glass - getting drunk will definitely not help). Have her lay on her back, or propped up comfortably with some pillows. This is not the time for her to sit on your face, or the edge of the bed, or standing up against a wall. Arrange a time when you can devote a long period to eating her pussy, and then just keep it up. Forget everything I said about asking her questions - just close your eyes and get into it. I know this can be a difficult and exhausting exercise, but she will be extravagantly thankful for your efforts. It gets easier each time. If all else fails, get accustomed to masturbating together. Gradually begin to add your stimulation to her own, right before she's about to cum anyway. Over time, you can take over completely.

    For women who themselves feel that their cunts are dirty or distasteful, all of the above methods may be helpful, but the underlying issue must also be addressed. I am amazed at how many women are ambivalent about their own genitals. They don't love "that part" of their body, and they can't believe that you would either. Yes, it is important to be clean. But clean means a daily shower which includes washing the vulva. It doesn't mean vainly attempting to remove every trace of smell or taste. The natural fragrance and secretions of a healthy woman are beautiful and erotic. Hopefully you agree (and if not, try hard to cultivate this attitude). When she learns to love her pussy, she will be infinitely more comfortable with your loving it too.

    Hey, I have a lot of respect for all you guys who like to eat pussy because there are too few of you out there. And I'm not the only woman who says this. Furthermore, some of you guys who are giving it the old college try are not doing too well, so maybe this little lesson will help you out. When a woman finds a man who gives good head, she's found a treasure she's not going to let go of too quickly. This is one rare customer and she knows it. She won't even tell her girlfriends about it or that guy will become the most popular man in town. So, remember, most guys can fuck, and those who can usually do it satisfactorily, but the guy who gives good head, he's got it made.

    Most women are shy about their bodies. Even if you've got the world's most gorgeous woman in bed with you, she's going to worry about how you like her body. Tell her it's beautiful, tell her which parts you like best, tell her anything, but get her to trust you enough to let you down between her legs.

    Now stop and look at what you see. Beautiful, isn't it? There is nothing that makes a woman more unique than her pussy. I know. I've seen plenty of them. They come in all different sizes, colors and shapes; some are tucked inside like a little girl's cunnie and some have thick luscious lips that come out to greet you. Some are nested in brushes of fur and others are covered with transparent fuzz. Appreciate your woman's unique qualities and tell her what makes her special.

    Women are a good deal more verbal than men, especially during love-making. They also respond more to verbal love, which means, the more you talk to her, the easier it will be to get her off. So all the time you're petting and stroking her beautiful pussy, talk to her about it.

    Now look at it again. Gently pull the lips apart and look at her inner lips, even lick them if you want to. Now spread the tops of her pussy up until you can find her clit. Women have clits in all different sizes, just like you guys have different sized cocks. It doesn't mean a thing as far as her capacity for orgasm. All it means is more of her is hidden underneath her foreskin.

    Whenever you touch a woman's pussy, make sure your finger is wet. You can lick it or moisten it with juices from inside her. Be sure, by all means, to wet it before you touch her clit because it doesn't have any juices of it's own and it's extremely sensitive. Your finger will stick to it if it's dry and that hurts. But you don't want to touch her clit anyway. You have to work up to that. Before she becomes aroused, her clit is too delicate to be handled.

    Approach her pussy slowly. Women, even more so than men, love to be teased. The inner part of her thigh is her most tender spot. Lick it, kiss it, make designs on it with the tip of your tongue. Come dangerously close to her pussy, then float away. Make her anticipate it.

    Now lick the crease where her leg joins her pussy. Nuzzle your face into her bush. Brush your lips over her slit without pressing down on it to further excite her. After you've done this to the point where your lady is bucking up from her seat and she's straining to get more of you closer to her, then put your lips right on top of her slit.

    Kiss her, gently, then harder. Now use your tongue to separate her pussy lips and when she opens up, run your tongue up and down between the layers of pussy flesh. Gently spread her legs more with your hands. Everything you do with a woman you're about to eat must be done gently.

    Tongue-fuck her. This feels define. It also teases the hell out of her because by now she wants some attention given to her clit. Check it out. See if her clit has gotten hard enough to peek out of it's covering. If so, lick it. If you can't see it, it might still be waiting for you underneath. So bring your tongue up tot he top of her slit and feel for her clit. You may barely experience it's presence. But even if you can't feel the tiny pearl, you can make it rise by licking the skin that covers it. Lick hard now and press into her skin.

    Gently pull the pussy lips away and flick your tongue against the clit, hood covered or not. Do this quickly. This should cause her legs to shudder. When you sense she's getting up there toward orgasm, make your lips into an O and take the clit into your mouth. Start to suck gently and watch your lady's face for her reaction. If she can handle it, begin to suck harder. If she digs it, suck even harder. Go with her. If she lifts her pelvis into the air with the tension of her rising orgasm, move with her, don't fight her. Hang on, and keep your hot mouth on her clit. Don't let go. That's what she'll be saying too: 'Don't stop. Don't ever stop!'

    There's a reason for that, most men stop too soon. Just like with cock sucking, this is something worth learning about and worth learning to do well. I know a man who's a lousy fuck, simply lousy, but he can eat pussy like nobody I know and he never has trouble getting a date. Girls are falling all over him.

    But back to your pussy eating session...There's another thing you can do to intensify your woman's pleasure. You can finger-fuck her while she's enjoying your clit-licking talents. Before, curing or after. She'll really like it. In addition to the erogenous zones surrounding her clit, a woman has another extremely sensitive area at the roof of her vagina. This is what you rub up against when you're fucking her. Well, since your cock is pretty far away from your mouth, your fingers will have to do the fucking.

    Take two fingers. One is too skinny and three is too wide and therefore can't get deep enough. Make sure they're wet so you don't irritate her skin. Slide them inside, slowly at first, then a little faster. Fuck her with them rhythmically. Speed up only when she does. Listen to her breathing.

    She'll let you know what to do. If you're sucking her clit and finger-fucking her at the same time, you're giving her far more stimulation than you would be giving her with your cock alone. So you can count on it that she's getting high on this. If there's any doubt, check her out for symptoms. Each woman is unique. You may have one who's nipples get hard when she's excited or only when she's having an orgasm. Your girl might flush red or begin to tremble. Get to know her symptoms and you'll be a more sensitive lover.

    When she starts to have an orgasm, for heaven's sakes, don't let go of that clit. Hang in there for the duration. When she starts to come down from the first orgasm, press your tongue along the underside of the clit, leaving your lips covering the top. Move your tongue in and out of her cunt. If your fingers are inside, move them a little too, gently though, things are extremely sensitive just now.

    If you play your cards right, you'll get some multiple orgasms this way. A woman stays excited for a full hour after she's had an orgasm. Do you realize the full impact of that information? The potential? One woman was clocked at 56 orgasms at one sitting. Do you know what effect you would have on a woman you gave 56 orgasms to? She'd be yours as long as you wanted her.

    The last advice I have for you is this: After you've made her come, make her your slave by giving her the best head she's ever had, don't leave her alone just yet. Talk to her, stroke her body, caress her breasts. Keep making love to her quietly until she's come all the way down. A man can get off and go to sleep in the same breath and feel no remorse, no sense of loss. But a woman by nature requires some sensitivity from her lover in those first few moments after sex.

    Oral sex can be the most exciting sexual experiences you can have. But it's what you make it. Take your time, practice often, pay attention to your lover's signals, and most of all, enjoy yourself.

    TASTE:

    In my experience, one of the main reasons that partners avoid female oral sex is due to a percieved or even experienced poor taste. While it is true that women run the range from pleasant (tasty!) to sour or uric tasting, there are easy steps to ensure that your partner will be tasting her sweetest.

    First and most obviously, a good vigorous shower will do much to neutralize the taste of your partner. In fact, oral sex in the shower, while not a favorite method of mine, has a completely neutral taste if you stick to the upper regions of your partner's sex. If your partner has not showered recently, or has physically exerted herself recently, her taste will be much stronger. This, however, can be a good thing!

    Secondly, foreplay will improve upon both the taste and the experience in general if your can get her juices flowing. I have never found an extremely aroused, wet woman to taste unpleasant. Quite the contrary!

    FOREPLAY:

    Do it! Take your time! Have fun! Experiment! A common male misunderstanding is that females are aroused most through physical contact. Not true. I have aroused women greatly simply by acting sexy. Tension is a wonderful tool, use it. If you can build tension to the point where the barest touch sends electric shivers through both of you, you can't lose! Similarly, even the best love techniques will not turn on a woman who isn't in the mood. (If you can get her in the mood, well then you're talking.)

    Take your time, explore your partner (there's a lot more there than nipples and a clitoris!), build tension, have fun.

    POSITIONS:

    There are two basic positions that I have found very versitile and succesful. For a very comfortable session, have her lie on her back with legs spread and knees bent slightly. Lie on your stomach between her legs, put your right arm under her left leg and your left arm under her right - somewhat of an intimate hug. Now you should find your head situated conveniently and comfortably near the center of your attention.

    Less comfortable, but a bit wilder is the following. Lie on your back, prop a couple of pillows (or fold one over) under your head. Have your partner kneel facing you with one knee on each side of your head, above your shoulders. The sexy part of this position (IMHO) is that your partner can look down at you and watch you eating her out. (Yum) Versatility and comfort are reduced for the giver, so I only occasionally partake in this position.

    These are by no means the only positions. Again, experiment, have fun. If you can find a bed where your partner can lie down with her legs dangling off the bed and resting flat on the floor, you're in luck. Now you can have her sit just at the edge of the bed, lie back, and give you plenty of access while you kneel/sit in front of her sex.

    GEOGRAPHY:

    Woman are very different in some respects of their genitalia, but the major parts are the same. A woman's sex from the oral sex point of view consists of two sets of lips (outer and inner) that meet just below the vaginal opening and some variable distance above the clitoris; the vaginal opening (immediately above the nether meeting of above-mentioned lips), a smooth section of skin between the vaginal opening and the clitoris (I have no clue as to its technical name, hereafter it will be refered to as the "scav") and the clitoris and its surrounding folds.

    If you get the chance, explore your partner in a location with decent lighting. Use your hand to spread her sex and explore her, find out what's where and what's what. Like I said earlier, women are different. Especially the location and shape of the clitoris. It can be buried, protruding, surrounded by many folds of flesh, or hanging out it the open. The best method I have found for finding your partner's clitoris (If all else fails, ask!), is to place a finger at the very base of her sex and gently run it up her scav until you feel a slight bump. That's it.

    OK, ENOUGH OF THE DETAILS, NOW THE NITTY-GRITTY:

    So your partner is showered, excited and feeling sexy. It's the big moment, what to do? Don't simply dive in. Take your time, excite her. In my opinion, I can usually tell how good my partner is at oral sex by how she "goes down" on me. By "going down" I mean the process by which she goes from kising my lips to sucking oh-so-wonderfully on my sex.

    Depending on your partner, different methods of going down will work more effectively. If you've gotten to this point with your partner, you should have a fair idea of what she likes. Take advantage of that knowledge. One thing that I highly recommend however, is a sexy look. Sexy looks can make all the difference, and the best place to throw one in is as you're licking, sucking and kissing your way down her stomach stop, look up and smile devilishly.

    Unbutton your partners jean's, pull the tabs back and kiss her newly exposed flesh. Unzip her pants, pull the tabs back as far as they can go and place light, tender kisses on her abdomen and around the top of her panties. Watch it, some women are very ticklish here!

    (Note the above doesn't work so well if she doesn't have jeans on but you're all smart enough to figure it out...) Once you've removed everything but her panties, stop. You have a unique opportunity for further arousal. Kiss her legs and inner thighs with gentle kisses. Work your way up each leg and make a point of stopping at the line of her underwear. Kiss again along the top of her underwear, and along the other two borders.

    Now move to her cotton (silk? lace? latex?) covered sex. Plant firm, dry kisses through her underwear on her sex, low and right around the vaginal entrance works best for me. If your partner is really excited, often her underwear will be damp and will smell (pleasantly) of her sex.

    Removing the underwear is again a matter of choice. You know your partner best, I prefer either gently sliding it all the way off with my fingers, or pulling it part way down with my teeth first.

    DIRECT KISSING:

    It is not unusual for your partner's lips to be closed together. A very excited woman's lips may be slightly spread allready ("pouting"). Again, building tension can be accomplished by light kisses on either side of her sex as well as light blowing. (Do not inflate your partner! This can be very dangerous!!) Spreading her lips can be accomplished by placing your tongue first at the base of her sex, and then firmly running your tongue all the way up. Continue with a few long licks from the base of her sex all the way to the top past her clitoris. Vary the firmness of your tongue from hard and pointed to broad and soft.

    THE BIG "O":

    The best and most proven method of making your partner cum through oral sex is by repeated, rythmic stroking of her clitoris with your tongue. The tongue is uniquely suited for this purpose because of it's texture, versatility, and pliability. It is difficult (and tiring) to apply too much pressure to your partner's clitoris. Some women are much more sensitive than others however. Be receptive to any sharp gasps, you could be being too affectionate. If this is the case, move away from direct contact or adopt a gentler technique.

    Repeated, rythmic stroking can be accomplished in a variety of ways. I prefer either rapid, repeated verticle licks with a firm, pointed tongue, or planting your tongue firmly against your partner's clitoris and vigorously shaking your head back and forth. (Tiring, maybe. But it's worth it!) If you are having trouble finding the correct angle or method for rhythmically lingually carresing her clitoris, or if you want to try something fun and new:

    Toungue the abc's. No seriously! This is a great oral excercise on any part of the body. Toungue the abc's starting with lower case, and moving though upper case. (Heck, you could do the whole ANSI ASCII set if you'd like!) Be especially perceptive while you do this, vary your speed and watch for sharp intakes of breath - chances are you've hit the right angle. The abc's give a large variety of different strokes, so come back to this excersize as often as you'd like.

    A general rule of thumb (tongue?) is to start slow and pick up the pace as you go along. This is definately a general rule though, feel free to break it by varying your rhythm, both slowly and predictably as well as quickly and startlingly.

    OTHER FUN THINGS TO DO:

    Lick between the inner and outer lips; penetrate the vagina deeply (a much stronger, iron-like taste here); "tease" the entrance to her vagina with rapid pokes of your toungue at varying depths; don't forget your hands, often a woman will feel a need or ache for something inside of her while very aroused, oblige her with a finger or two. Both kissing and manually manipulating your partner is tough, anyone with succesful methods is welcome to pipe in.

    Talk to your partner, ask her what she likes. Experiment (if you can) with many different partners. What excites one woman a lot may not excite another as much, but may still be well worth trying. On the other hand, you may not notice a subtle pleasurable technique on one woman that can be easily learned on another. The better you know your parnter, the more effectively you can please her. Have fun!

    A FINAL NOTE:

    I tried to be a lot less pretentious than the male version of this article for a few reasons. The major one is that women are very different, the above suggestions may work wonderfully with one woman and so-so with another. Some women simply aren't responsive to oral sex due to strong moral constraints. Secondly, I am not an expert, though I love oral sex and have had the joy of pleasuring 10-20 women. Third, I am still young (18) and have a lot to learn.

    So feel free to comment on what you've read (men and women) and reply either over the net or to me personally. Thanks. Hope you found this helpfull and enjoy!

    Q. What is cunnilingus?

    Cunnilingus is the fine art of making love to a vagina with your mouth and tongue. It is a delicate skill, requiring patience, practice, and dedication to get it right, but any woman you learn to do it right for will appreciate you all the more for it.

    What applies to the penis applies to the vulva-- every one is different, requiring a different touch to make its owner happy. But few tools can equal the tongue for the amount of pleasure it can deliver to a happy vagina.

    This article assumes that you know what a vulva looks like and can identify with some precision the mons veneris, labia majora, clitoral hood, clitoris, labia minora, urethra, vagina, and perineum, to name them (approximately) from top to bottom.

    Q. How fast should I go?

    This isn't an attack. Don't go after the clitoris like a fireman attacking a fire. Quite often at first, the clitoris is far too sensitive for direct stimulation. Lick around it, stimulating the hood, teasing her inner labia, tasting her. Take your time and listen to her. Some women make noise, and some do not. It will be a while before you learn exactly what your lover prefers as far as oral sex is concerned.

    Some women may like additional stimulation-- a finger or two into the vagina, or perhaps even the anus. She may want your hands to reach up and play with her breasts, or she may want your fingers to hold her labia apart so that your tongue can get at her vulva more directly.

    Q. I've heard cunnilingus doesn't taste good.

    If the taste or smell bothers you or is a concern, ask her to wash first. Most people who enjoy cunnilingus agree that a clean vagina is a good, if acquired, taste.

    As a woman nears her climax, she may want more direct stimulation. In general, fast, rhythmic stimulation is most effective at causing climax-- but there shouldn't be a rush to get there. Take your time and learn to appreciate what you can do for her.

    Q. What about cunnilingus during menstruation?

    Some people are particularly turned off at the suggestion of cunnilingus during menstruation. If it is a concern to you, then wait. A tampon may well hold the blood back, as will a diaphragm, but some men can't stand the taste anyway. If your partner is healthy, however, there is no particular danger in menstrual blood, and some women find that orgasms during their periods allievate cramps.
    1. Re:Mod this up! # +5; Informative # by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jesus... someone mod this asshole down to a -2... this thing is a fucking book! The "War and Peace" of oral sex. I certainly hope this guy cut-n-paste (or maybe 'cunt-n-paste'?) this shit... otherwise he had WAY too much fucking time on his hands. (He probably had his dick in his hands too)

    2. Re:Mod this up! # +5; Informative # by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1) it was obviously a girl posting, not a guy.
      2) anyone know where I can get something this detailed about the penis? ;)

  28. You can also use a program called Camouflage by asavage · · Score: 2

    Camouflage can hide any file(eg mp3) inside any other file like a picture or a word document. The created file will look and act normal but might be a little big.

  29. I propose a new form of steganography by phaxkolumbo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How about putting hidden messages in spam? Nobody bothers with those anymore, anyway.

    Here's an example:
    ***SNORING KEEPING YOU FROM A GOOD NIGHT SLEEP ?***
    tHIs proDuct has been featureD on national tv.doEs sNoring keep you up at night?
    tired of having to sleep in separate rooMs bEcauSe of Snoring?
    just tired of being tired becAuse of someone's snorinG?
    tired of hEaring how your snoring kept someone up all night?
    There is a safe, natural solution to your snoring problem...

    And so on...

    The steganographic schema could be a bit more advanced in the production version, but i think the basic idea is good enuff for a start.

    1. Re:I propose a new form of steganography by Tazzy531 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Already available: http://www.spammimic.com/ and talked about here: Wired

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    2. Re:I propose a new form of steganography by damiam · · Score: 1

      Spam mimic does something like this.

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    3. Re:I propose a new form of steganography by phaxkolumbo · · Score: 1

      Damn, too late again... but thanks for the info anyway.

      But seriously, i'm quite curious about the 'strength' of the steganography used in spam mimic. It looks like a toy, but i think the idea is sound enough, if someone came up with a crypto-schema strong enough.

    4. Re:I propose a new form of steganography by Monkelectric · · Score: 2

      That kind of steganography is called "hidden channel." Although in your case, its not that hidden :)

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    5. Re:I propose a new form of steganography by the+way,+what're+you · · Score: 1

      I found nursery rhymes embedded in some spam I got recently, no joke. In fact, here's the source:

      <html>
      <b><br>St<!--This-->oc<!--is the-->k Expect<!--beginning-->ed to So<!--of the-->ar</br><br>

      Powder River Basin Gas Co<!--we think-->rp. (OT<!--end of-->CB<!--the world-->B:PRVB)</br><br></b>

      Ma<!--Mary had-->jor New<!--a little-->slet<!--lamb-->ter Ann<!--its fleece-->ouncem<!--was white-->ents and Huge New<!--as snow-->sletter
      Cover<!--and everywhere-->age for PRVB<br><br>

      This we<!--that mary-->ek, PRVB will be prof<!--went the-->iled by some major new<!--lamb was-->sletters<br>
      along with the release of sign<!--sure to-->ificant news regarding incr<!--go-->eased<br>
      reve<!--it followed-->nues for the Comp<!--her to-->any. There will be huge vo<!--school one-->lume, and a <br>
      strong increase in price for several days. These are the same<br>
      newsle<!--day which-->tters that profi<!--was against-->led NVEI two weeks ago. They brought<br>
      NVEI from $.68 to $1.79 in ten days. We know for certain that<br>
      the same groups are going to profi<!--the rules-->le PRVB this week.<br><br>

      We are ve<!--humpty-->ry proud that we can sha<!--dumpty-->re this information with yo<!--sat-->u so<br>
      that you may part<!--on a wall-->icipate alongside the many other Newslet<!--humpty-->ter<br>
      subs<!--dumpty-->crib ers that recie<!--had a-->ve this inform<!--great-->ation. It is highly advisa<!--fall all-->ble<br>
      to take a pos<!--the kings-->ition in PRVB as soon as po<!--horses-->ssible, today before the<br>
      ma<!--and all-->rket closes, or to<!--the kings-->morrow.<br><br>

      PRVB is a pros<!--men could-->perous and underva<!--not put-->lued oil and gas exploration <br>
      company with reserves of 43 Billion cubic feet of natural gas<br>
      operating in the Powder River Basin, one of the most prolific<br>
      natural resource areas in the United States. The Company<br>
      presently has a 100% working inte<!--humpty-->rest on 15,000 acres contiguous<br>
      to Williams Coal Seam Gas (NY<!--together-->SE: WTU, $11) and Western Gas<br>
      (N<!--again-->YSE: WGR, $38), the major players in this region. Recent <br>
      news that the Company's wells have been producing millions of<br>
      cubic feet of gas per day combined with several acquisi<!--jack be-->tions is<br>
      having an extremely positive impa<!--nimble-->ct on reven<!--jack be-->ues and <br>ear<!--quick-->nings.<br><br&gt ;

      The s<!--jack jump-->tock is tr<!--over the-->ading near its 52-<!--candlestick-->week low, and should begin m<!--hey diddle-->oving<br>
      up immedia<!--the cat-->tly. We think the sto<!--in the-->ck could easily reach $1.50 in less<br>
      than a month.<br><br>

      <b>Goo<!--fiddle-->d Luck, and watch PRV<!--the dog-->B fly!</b>
      </html>

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    6. Re:I propose a new form of steganography by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was getting stock fruad spam like this too, and assumed that it was an attempt to defeat spam catching. If you look at the placement of the rhymes, they cut many key words and phrases in two like NYSE. (look at the example above)

      I quickly was able to counter it myself (even using OE), and report every instance to the SEC. I suggest you do this too. I'd bet money theyre all "Pump and Dump" scams.

  30. Reinventing "crowds"? by merlyn · · Score: 2

    Peek-a-booty seems to be simply reinventing the Crowds project. Why?

    1. Re:Reinventing "crowds"? by mlinksva · · Score: 2

      Perhaps because the crowds software hasn't been updated since 1998, the server in the default configuration refuses connections and there's no support or development mailing lists nor public cvs. Crowds is "only" 3301 lines of Perl, entirely feasible to reimplement if they disagreed with some crowds design decision, didn't want the Perl dependency, or simply wanted to write it themselves. If crowds had a significant user base they should've thought about implementing its protocol, but it doesn't seem to. Perhaps someone should fork crowds and put it on sourceforge (after pinging the original authors).

    2. Re:Reinventing "crowds"? by mlinksva · · Score: 2

      OTOH if peek-a-booty does take off, somebody should do a Perl implementation of that protocol.

    3. Re:Reinventing "crowds"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This wasn't directed towards Randal, now was it?

      "Nudge, nudge, wink, wink. Say no more!" :)

    4. Re:Reinventing "crowds"? by tacho · · Score: 1

      you of all people to ask this. :-)
      simple - because they can.

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      -tacho
    5. Re:Reinventing "crowds"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      If you look at 'crowds', you'll see that, in addition to being incomplete (things like implementation of proper initialization vectors were not done, stream cipher is untested homebrew, etc.) and unmaintained, it's not available outside the US and Canada, nor is it designed for environments like China.

      Crowds is not anti-censorware, and has no provisions to allow for blocked URLs, nor does it have any way of working with nodes which are in any way blocked. It also assumes that you can trust everyone in your crowd -- messages are decrypted to plaintext at every node. While this might be tolerable within the AT&T workplace, the trust model breaks down when spies might be admitted to the network, or when users and their machines might be captured by hostile parties.

      That's why 'crowds' wouldn't cut it.

  31. Danger - do not use Camera/Shy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Redundant
    I'm a steganography researcher who would prefer to remain anonymous.

    It would appear that Camera/Shy puts the "hidden" message in the least significant bits of an image. This is a terrible way to do steganography - researchers have long known that it is extremely easy to detect this method. For example, go to outguess.org for some software which can detect it, and links to papers describing how this works.*

    Using this sort of software is worse than not using it at all - you are just attracting attention to the fact that you have something to hide! Whereupon you can expect the full might of the Echelon/Carnivore machines to be used against you. Don't be tempted by the easy UI. As someone else has already mentioned, LSB steganography is the equivalent of ROT13 encryption.

    If you want to send truly secret messages, read some steganography literature - which will give you an idea of how difficult real steganography is. Best would be to wait 5 years until we have sorted out which, if any, steganography schemes are secure.

    *The concept of how the detector works is not hard, but IMO these papers are rather badly written and you may find them hard to read. They don't really report their experiments fully. But believe me, LSB steganography is extremely poor.

    1. Re:Danger - do not use Camera/Shy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True... but with the amount of money and resources that Echelon has -- they would bust you anyway. This isn't designed to stop the likes of the NSA. This is designed to stop the lower-level idiots who wouldn't figure this out in a million years. If you are sending messages that the NSA is interested in -- you're pretty much fucked anyway. They know who you are and where you live.

  32. Peekabooty website NOT blocked by the GFOC by H3XA · · Score: 2, Informative

    I am confirming that the GFOC (Great Firewall of China) do not block the Peekabooty websites..... YET
    Not that I really need this - I don't do anything that I need to hide from the Chinese government, Sure they block my access to Geocities and BBC but I don't see that as a bad thing.
    - HeXa

    1. Re:Peekabooty website NOT blocked by the GFOC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Geocities and BBC but I don't see that as a bad thing.
      Me neither. The BBC is one of the most shameless biased media outlets I know of. Even the Chinese government's news agency seems to have fewer hidden agendas.

    2. Re:Peekabooty website NOT blocked by the GFOC by Redoc66 · · Score: 1

      You're absolutely right. It is only a matter of time before they strike.

      Why do you think they encourage children to watch Sesame Street? Brain-washing of course! Have you heard all of the talk about "sharing" and "helping a friend in need" when we all know they are talking about Communism!! I mean they teach kids to always follow instructions (from a future dictator perhaps??), and to never question the social hierarchy of those in charge.

      And oh yeah, C is for Cookie.

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      Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill
    3. Re:Peekabooty website NOT blocked by the GFOC by Badmovies · · Score: 1

      H3XA said:
      "Sure they block my access to Geocities and BBC but I don't see that as a bad thing."

      Yes, but wouldn't you like to make that choice for yourself? Surely, if there is nothing on Geocities or the BBC that you want to read, then there is no need for someone to block your access in the first place.

      I much prefer making decisions for myself; it was one of the big reasons for growing up.

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      Andrew Borntreger
      Champion of cinematic disasters
    4. Re:Peekabooty website NOT blocked by the GFOC by spydir31 · · Score: 1

      They could do something worse then block the website, they could just redirect it to their own server, supplying a trojan

  33. This may shed some light. by tg_schlacht · · Score: 1

    Googling for "steganalysis" will yield several interesting places to look.

    "Steganalysis of Images Created Using Current Steganography Software" gives some good information.

  34. Snake Oil? Maybe... maybe not. by muerte24 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    there are many tools which allow you to hide things in images. there is already "Steganotools" (i forget the website) and programs like "Camoflage" that hide files inside of other files, or append them on the end as junk.

    if you really want secrecy, you can move to things like "DriveCrypt", which makes containers you can mount as new drives. but these containers have no header, and being compressed and encrypted, it's impossible to distinguish them from purely random data unless you know the strong passphrase.

    the idea of hiding data in the LSB of pictures (or mp3's for that matter) is old. just better hope that no one else has a copy of the original file! if you choose specific pictures where the LSB is statistically random enough, there is nothing that says you can't hide data there securely. the simplest way for short messages is to run MD5 (or some other hash) on your passphrase, and XOR the resulting digest on your message to produce your cyphertext. then just replace the LSB's in your image file.

    just make sure you replace all your LSB's or else an attacker can detect that there is something hidden.

    the only thing new about this particular tool is that it uses a browser plugin to decrypt the picture by double clicking on it. that sounds insecure to me.

    drivecrypt lets you install the program entirely on removable media, so you don't have strange stego tools installed on your computer when the Red Police come busting down your door...

    just my $.02.

    muerte

  35. Re:Snake Oil -- ROT13? Old school. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ROT13 is old school, man. Nobody uses that tired old thing! The future is ROT26.

  36. Re:Snake Oil? Maybe... maybe not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    if you choose specific pictures where the LSB is statistically random enough, there is nothing that says you can't hide data there securely

    Wrong. See www.outguess.org.

    (From a steg researcher, who gets rather irritated at everyone thinking they are an expert on this difficult subject.)

  37. Picture encryption by fylloxera · · Score: 2, Informative

    For Mac OS X Pict encrypt for free ......download at www.pariahware.com. It's a easy program, and requires no geeks. Hides text messages in gif and jpegs.

  38. Steganography by Tar-Palantir · · Score: 1

    Steganography is nothing new, I believe a program called Stego has been available for Mac for several years.
    The article is also a bit confusing - first they say it encrypts files, then they 'can be protected with a password.'
    Steganography is great for hiding encrypted stuff, but it only offers 'security through obscurity' alone. Also, if the encryption uses something like a fixed, unencrypted header or a magic number or PGP style header, it ought to be pretty easy to detect even if it cannot be decrypted. And that, of course defeats the whole purpose of stego.

  39. excuse by khold · · Score: 1

    Oh great, now there is actually a proper excuse to post such nonsense as: "go to blablalbla.com to check out some goatsex pictures..... But wait, there is a hidden message in them, honest!"

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    1. Re:excuse by GigsVT · · Score: 2, Funny

      What if goatse.cx has been used for passing stego messages all along? I mean why else would some guy put up a random sick picture on a domain, and people would constantly post links to it.

      I bet there is a secret code in anonymous Slashdot posts that set off notification to pick up the newest version of gap.jpg off of goatse.cx.

      For example:

      Dirty Gnu Hippie: The plan is ready, go get new instructions.

      BSD is dying: Abort mission, pick up new instructions from hick.org.

      Alan Thicke: Mission sucessful, drinks in safe house tonight

      After all, who is going to run checksums on something silly like the goatse guy? :)

      --
      I've had enough abrasive sigs. Kittens are cute and fuzzy.
  40. Boredom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I don't know about you, but I have seen so much damn pr0n on the internet that, well, I am building a tolerance for it. Mundane fucking just doesn't have the jolt it once used to. So I now search out more and more exotic pr0n. The only barrier left is child porn, and if I ever cross *that* barrier, then I think I will kill myself to make the world a better place.

    Beastiality, faties, preggos, oldies, a bit of gay, SM, femdom, chastity belts, strap-on dildo's, latex etc.
    OH, I forgot. I also steer well clear of scatology. Ughh!!!

    1. Re:Boredom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would you really kill yourself? Or would you be like Ted Bundy and let the state eventually execute you for serial rape and murder? I hope you realize what pr0n does to you - you're not getting bored, you're being desensitized. Find help. You don't know what depths you'll reach until you hit them - and that might be far too late.

      Unfortunately, this is slashdot, where 'prudish' views of sex and pr0n are laughed out the door...

  41. Re:Snake Oil -- ROT13? Old school. by Kredal · · Score: 2, Funny

    Heh, You really need to get with the program. This message is encrypted with rot-52... twice as strong as rot-26.

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    Whoever stated that signature sizes should be limited to one hundred and twenty characters can just go ahead and kiss my
  42. Well... by Greyfox · · Score: 3, Funny

    Seeing as how they've been merrily spamming us for a while now, we could just return the favor, spamming everyone in china with copies of this program. Worst case, the Chinese government comes up with a solution to the spam problem...

    --

    I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?

    1. Re:Well... by IWX222 · · Score: 1

      And if the Chinese government comes up with an effective spam blocker, the world will jump with joy, and the chinese make a whole load of dosh selling it off at £10 copy. Wouldn't you like a decent spam blocker than can distinguish between spam and chopped pork?

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      .sig me!
  43. Terrorists have already used this by usmcpanzer · · Score: 0

    I saw in an article that terrorists have been using encrytped messages in pictures to communicate. The most interesting thing is they were (or are still?) putting them on ebay. With the million of auctions just on that site alone I imagine it would be pretty hard to track such a thing.

    1. Re:Terrorists have already used this by Letch · · Score: 1

      Was there ever any *proof* of this? All I remmember was articles saying they *could* have. Big diffrence.

      And all this is very paradoxical. "We want Freedom! We Want to be able to do what we want with our computers" "Oh wait! You cant release that! Terrorosts might use it!" As the author is quoted as saying in the article, you might have to ban table napkins. Bomb plans could be written on them. One day you have to decide what side of the fence youre all gonna come down on.

  44. Re:Snake Oil? Maybe... maybe not. by spydir31 · · Score: 1

    instead of drivecrypt I suggest you have a look at StegFS which does the same but is GPL'd

  45. Not decoding a message, but still detecting it by dmomo · · Score: 1

    With visual steganography, even though we would be unable to decode a message, would it still be possible to detect it?

    I would imagine that changing pixel tones ever so slightly would create at imbalance in the tone distribution, making solid-color areas slightly uneven. This may be undetectable to the naked eye, but software may be able to see it. And, wouldn't compression normalize like colors anyway?

    If this is true (I don't know) I guess a way around it would be to embed smaller messages in larger images, placing only a single character in a given "color zone". Maybe an image with a more robust color scheme could be seen as suspicious.

    1. Re:Not decoding a message, but still detecting it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but what about images which are truly random?? i don't think even a computer could distinguish that.. have you ever tried to write an algo to find the edges of various objects in images?? what you are suggesting is much more complex than that

  46. Re:Snake Oil - How It's Obvious by Inexile2002 · · Score: 1

    When you hide an image in a pic, most stego tools take the last two bits of of the 8 bit color code and re-write them. Thus, 10010101 could become 10010100 or some other substitution. The net effect of this over the whole picture is usually to reduce the total number of colors. Simple tools can detect this color reduction pretty simply and reliably.

    That doesn't mean you can get the missing data out, anyone going to the trouble using stego will probably encrypt their data.

  47. Great... by kevlar · · Score: 0, Troll


    Lets write some more utilities so that drug runners and crazies can send undetectible messages to eachother with great ease.

    1. Re:Great... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      Not a bad idea. Drugs are way too expensive in this part of the country. We could use new ways to circumvent the BATF and DEA so we can get cheaper dope. Drug laws are assinine. You can drink yourself stupid and kill a family of six. They'll let you out on probation. But, you go to jail for 10 years if they bust you with pot. Murderers and rapists do less jail time than people selling drugs.

    2. Re:Great... by DavittJPotter · · Score: 1

      I hope you've sent off a message to Disney's Senator Fritz warning him of this underground terrorist activity supported by that evil hacker group on Slashdot.

      Fool.

      --
      "If there's hope, it lies in the proles..."
    3. Re:Great... by geekd · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Lets write some more utilities so that drug runners and crazies can send undetectible messages to eachother with great ease.

      What's the difference between criminals and "legitimate" political dissidents? To the governments of the world, nothing.

      I'm sure King George thought Washington and Jefferson were "crazies".

      I'm sure the British government thought Ghandi was a criminal. They put him in jail several times.

      The price of a truly free country is that "drug runners and crazies can send undetectible messages to eachother with great ease". This has to be so that future Ghandis and Mandellas can do so also.

      Or we can just shut everybody up. Yeah, lets do that. Let's start with you.

    4. Re:Great... by uucpbrain · · Score: 1

      It's rather too late to worry about people like drug runners anyway. Eight years ago the Cali cocaine cartel was using an IBM mainframe (with full time operations staff) to manage their information. In the years since, the various cartels have mapped all the radar in the areas important to them, have set up international communications networks with military-grade encryption, and were even reported to have purchased a surplus stealth submarine from a former Soviet state, only to lose it shortly after (due to operation by unqualified staff). They're also said to have a secure website where up to $3B a year in drug funds are laundered with a few easy mouse clicks.

      Guys with piles of tax-free money don't need things like Camera/Shy and Peek-a-booty, which are just simple tools for end users. They have long had IT hardcores working for them, and employees who don't follow best security practices, regardless of inconvenience, probably don't live very long.

      In short, give it up, the baddies are so far ahead of the goodies in this area that they'd laugh at the resources available to the other 99.999% of us. Who needs LSB stego when you already have $5000 phones with 168-bit encryption built in?

  48. Peekabooty 0, Great Firewall of China 1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Currently Sourceforge and its mirrors are
    banned by the Greatfirewall of China.

  49. to see pics of my birthday party... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Redundant

    Go to this URL to see pictures from my birthday party.'"


    My spam filters would kill that message.

  50. As Usual by emkman · · Score: 2, Informative

    People didn't actually read the website ...

    Users in countries where the Internet is censored do not necessarily need to install any software. They merely need to make a simple change to their Internet settings so that their access to the World Wide Web is mediated by the Peekabooty network.

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  51. They won't need any software by emkman · · Score: 1

    People keep saying "How can they get Peek-A-Booty if the firewall is already inplace?"

    Users in countries where the Internet is censored do not necessarily need to install any software. They merely need to make a simple change to their Internet settings so that their access to the World Wide Web is mediated by the Peekabooty network.

    About Peekabooty

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  52. As usual... everyone is missing the point. by GuNgA-DiN · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Sure the Peekabooty website talks about free speech in China, blah, blah, blah.... Everyone here is arguing about whether the Chinese will block Peekabooty and whether it will be an effective tool for freedom of speech. But, the REAL point of this software isn't to help the Chinese -- it's to help us poor saps in the Good Ole US of A! Think about it: since 9/11 our Government has gotten more and more oppressive. They have taken away freedoms that we used to take for granted. But, if the developers of Peekabooty came right out and said: "this is used to circumvent the assholes in Homeland Security" they would get a visit from the NSA/FBI/CIA etc.. They picked an oppressive regime (like China) to talk about this tool. But, substitute the letters USA for CHINA and you will begin to see the truth.

    Another nice benefit of this tool will be the developement of secure, anonymous P2P networks. Look at all the shit in the news lately about how ISP's are cutting off KaZaa. And, how Ranger Online is tracking down Gnutella users. The RIAA/MPAA Gestapo is out to get us and take us down. New tools like Peekabooty and FreeNet will help to insure that these organizations will never, EVER shut down the free-flow of information on the Net. Peekabooty is a dagger that is aimed right at the heart of corporate America! It says: "You think you can take over the Net? Ha! Fuck you and the horse you rode in on!". This just proves to them that we can always defeat them with technology regardless of how much money they have!

    1. Re:As usual... everyone is missing the point. by mysterions · · Score: 1

      GuNgA-DiN makes some excellent points, but the reality of censorship in the USA goes beyond the scope of the Internet and 9/11. I think he/she hit the nail on the head when he/she states that the given example of China is simply a sneaky way of criticising the US government. It reminds me of the Fables by Lafontaine, who, in the 17th century, wrote fables involving animals to surreptitiously criticise the French elite. In fact, while many people reading this story might lament the censorship imposed by the Chinese government, few people realize that the US' own mass media is statistically more protectionist than that of "Red China" (cf. "Manufacturing Consent" by Herman/Chomsky). I fully applaud projects like this one, because they open the door to new and more democratic forms of communications -- newspapers, discussion forums, manifestos, interest groups, etc...

    2. Re:As usual... everyone is missing the point. by krypto246 · · Score: 1

      I think just about everyone on Slashdot is a paranoid nutcase, and the above post is a prime example of that. YOu think this group is pretending to talk about concerns in China, because if they said anything derogatory about the DOHS they would get arrested? That;'s bullshit and you know it. Nobody on this forum is genuinly affraid of being targeted by the government for critisizing the FBI/CIA/DOHS. If you are, your nuts, because thousands of online writers do so every day, and nobody threatens to put them in gulags. I'm sick of every discussion of censorship being dominated by the tinfoil hat crowd. Use some common sense, and realise that there is absolutly no real evidence of any level of internet censorship by the US government, at all. If it happens, i'm first in line for the technology to get around it. But i really doubt that John Ashcroft is going to be firewalling Slashdot any time soon. OF course, if the arguments are going to continue to be so paranoid and baseless, maybe he should.

    3. Re:As usual... everyone is missing the point. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ashcroft might not do it... but, his buddies at the RIAA/MPAA might!

      When the people fear their government == Tyranny
      When the government fears the people == Democracy

    4. Re:As usual... everyone is missing the point. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't recall anyone in this conversation saying that they (or anyone) is currently being targeted for arrest for criticizing the DOHS or any other government agency.

      IMHO, GuNgA-DiN was saying that the creators of Peekabooty were making a subtle comment on the current state of affairs in the US. But then from the vehemence of your attack I guess that subtly is an art that is lost on you.

      I too am disturbed that the "tinfoil hat" crowd seems to dominate the freedom of speech / freedom of thought crowd.

      For instance. I find that discussion of the 'Corporate Personhood' issue and Ashcrofts directive to fight every request for information via the Freedom of Information Act distressing.

      Corporate Personhood:
      During the oral arguments of Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad Supreme Court Cheif Justice Morrison Remick Waite interrupted the arguments and declaired "The court does not wish to hear argument on the question whether the (equil protection) provision... in the Fourteenth Amendment... applies to these corporations. We are all of the opinion that it does."

      http://www.iiipublishing.com/afd/Coperson.htm

      or do a search on Google.

      Ashcroft v. The Freedom Of Information Act
      http://www.usdoj.gov/oip/foiapost/2001foiapos t19.h tm

      But the answer to this is to generate websites and documents discussing these problems while keeping the screeching to a minimum. Attacking those who use subtly, and grouping them in with the "tinfoil hat" crowd only serves to marginalize both them and you.

      But if you truly believe that our government is incapable of arresting people for what they say, I suggest you look at our history, and see they have done worse.

      The Tuskeegee (sp) medical trials of syphilus on black men.

      The experimental exposure of (unknowing) armed forces personel AND CIVILIANS to radiation.

      There are people RIGHT NOW arguing for the creation of 'thought crimes'. Here is an exaple of one procicuted in 1990. A man and a company who's only crime was attempting to write a book:

      SJ Games vs. the Secret Service
      http://www.sjgames.com/SS/

    5. Re:As usual... everyone is missing the point. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Why do you bother? Anyone quoting Chomsky is way out in outer-space to begin with. Let the guy live in his little warm fuzzy corner of the universe.

    6. Re:As usual... everyone is missing the point. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Ef fucking great. You name Tuskeege and SJ Games. I'm really impressed. 1940 and 1990. Haven't you got any newer issues of Pravda, comrade?

      By the way, SJ games were never "procicuted".

  53. Re:Snake Oil - How It's Obvious by GMontag451 · · Score: 2

    Why would this necessarily reduce the number of colors in the picture? Wouldn't that depend on the data stream you are encoding into the picture? I mean if you decide to put each consequtive 2 bits of your data stream into the last two bits of each byte, then number of different colors would depend on the percentages of the 4 different combinations of two bits. All you have to do then is massage your data stream to be sufficiently random. Any good compression scheme should do that.

  54. Re:Snake Oil - How It's Obvious by Inexile2002 · · Score: 1

    I had to go dig up my SANS notes for this one. I'm not a mathematician and I'm not some stego expert. I just attended the seminar.

    According to what it says here, when you embed data in an image, you have to alter the color table and this increases the number of near duplicate colors. A normal bitmap has very few duplicates, a stego'd bitmap has many. In the example, a bitmap of a forest scene jumps from 2 duplicate colors to 1046 after being stego'd. Why? Ask an expert, I just work here. When the number of duplicate or near duplicate colors aproaches 50, usually there is a hidden file in the image.

    Going to what you said, colors in an image are not randomized, and a random bit stream would stand out exactly for that reason.

    This is an article on detecting stego I found on Google, want more info, ask the author.

  55. donations by towaz · · Score: 1

    I donated to peek a booty.

    will my name show up if i grep the source code

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    "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire
  56. An oversimplified example. by The+Creator · · Score: 1
    Imagine having a picture that is all the same color. If you only had one such color in you palette, you could not encode any info in the file. But if you had many duplicates(of near duplicates) of that color you could alternate between those to encode the data. 32 duplicates(or near duplicates) could encode 5 bits in every pixel.

    You could use a wery high color image. And just pair the colors close to each other. That whould make it hard to spot(with encryption maby impossible) but that whould result in a wery low payload density.

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  57. Re:Show me the money by TRACK-YOUR-POSITION · · Score: 2

    Maybe he was just thinking that spamming everyone taints a person for life.

  58. Camera/Shy mirrors by uucpbrain · · Score: 1

    For those who find that the Hacktivismo site is slashdotted, Camera/Shy is also available for anonymous download from:

    http://www.mirrors.wiretapped.net/security/stega no graphy/camerashy/
    or
    ftp://mailprivately.com

  59. Isn't half of... by TibbonZero · · Score: 2

    Isn't half of sourceforge beta products that work pretty well? I am running alot of stuff from CVS that's not even beta, but nightly builds...
    Just a thought

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  60. 6/4 anonymous proxy software (by cDc) by scubacuda · · Score: 2

    is being released soon, according to Wired. It will be interesting to see how this works in conjunction with Peek-a-booty.