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Arianne ALPHA 2 Released
Miguel continues: This release of Arianne is a major milestone on our goal to get a working framework for simple online games creation. It features a new working and playable 2D Client with new gfx, music and sfx.
This release features also a working RP system on C++ with the next actions: Move, Chat, Attack, Spell, Get, Put, Consume, Look.
Arianne allows now a hardware limited number of connections to the server so you can have as much players as your hardware allow.
All files on Arianne features XML syntax.
Go to Arianne and get it.
Report problems with Arianne to Sourceforge Bugs Tracker
P.S:
We need binary packages for BeOS and MacOS X.
We need reports about BeOS, MacOSX, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Solaris, IRIX, QNX,
Linux and Windows NT.
We need new GFX ( don't ask what are them, look and do ).
We need new SFX ( _.wav )
Wow,
So that means I can make my own Q3?
How about one based on financial shenanigans?
This story has been posted for 3 minutes. I am the first post as far as I know. BUT.... the link is already slashdotted?!?!? What the hell did you guys do?
what they do?
i mean the grafix suck, the library? is one among many, and who cares about a toolkit for rpg-elements, when you can use it you can as well write your own.
So when are they going to release Arianne 5?
I would love to see it crash and burn...
Haven't these people heard of cropping an image?
Oh yeah, your desktop is very r33t, but I don't care what it looks like. Crop the image to the window or take a screenshot of only the window.
Arianne has been released.
.. I dont wish to go to some ancient slashdot story to find the link to the arianne site.
Wow. Amazing. Kudos.
Umm how aobut a link. And no
We need new GFX ( don't ask what are them, look and do ).
You help have from the Force
You need my help not
You need new SPLCHCK (ask what are them not, look and do !)
When will I end this grieving ? When will my future begin ?
which means of course another troll bath... :(
seems the topic of the day is free game development.... first Freeciv, then the article on "mods" and now a game engine
now every genre has been covered that I like - "civ games", FPS and now RPG. I hope someone makes a RPG of high quality with this engine, perhaps a rewrite of an old console classic *hint* *hint*
- HeXa
I would like to draw everyone's attention to something.
Recently, the slashdot editors changed the rules for people with low karma.
Now, people with negative or "terrible" karma can only post 2 comments per day, which is blatantly censorship.
This has forced all the negative users to post anoynmously, which creates more noise at higher levels, and drowns out legitimate AC's. I find this needlessly foolish, as I cannot listen to genuine anonymous posts due to pwp and random crapfloods. IP banning is pointless, because it is so easy to use proxies.
Please, allow the negative users no restrictions, so they move back to -1.
Thank you.
Think nothing is impossible? Try slamming a revolving door.
I bet that you couldnt do better if u had to right a page in a foreign language.
Go read about Christmas Island. There's your english lesson for today.
Because English was not a prerequisite for employment, a sizeable proportion of todays community is not fluent in English and many residents still converse in their native tongue.
http://www.christmas.net.au/culture.htm
perhaps a rewrite of an old console classic *hint* *hint*
and unless the game is abandonware, get royally sued by the company that owns the "console classic".
Think nothing is impossible? Try slamming a revolving door.
What happened to good old platform games, eh? eh?
Oh, sorry I forgot, 2D isn't cool anymore. Its all about texel shaders and fog effects these days isn't it? Gee, thanks Carmac!
Its really quite easy to rip off any video game/movie. All you have to do is make some small, but humurous, changes and call it a parody. Parodies are protected forms of freedom of speech, at least in the United States.
From the front page...
:) Are we trying to stop people making money from selling free software and related services?
We still need to discuss the LICENSE of Arianne as actually code is only usable for GPL projects and being an engine that perhaps is not good, also we need to avoid the GPL 2.0 blackhole by, perhaps, switching to Affero GPL to disallow service providers to avoid the GPL restrictions to enforce users rights. Our goals should be:
Open Source
Disallow possible ways of close RP, AI or framework of the Engine
Allow creation of close source clients easily
Disallow use of Arianne by Service providers that doesn't collaborate into Open Source
The resulting license and the discussion to reach it should be done on arianne-general. I WON'T allow any kind of Arianne special License. We DON'T forbid commercialization of Arianne, we forbid closing source the application.
Apart from the fact that I can only make sense of one word in three, I smell confusion. If the code is currently released under GPL, then I guess that's because either (a) it contains code borrowed from some other GPL'd program, (b) one or more of the developers has decided to copyleft their contribution, or (c) both of the above. If you want to modify the license in some way, you'd better start re-writing the parts of the code which are under GPL.
Let's look at these goals:
> Open Source
GPL does that.
> Disallow possible ways of close RP, AI or
> framework of the Engine
GPL does that.
> Allow creation of close source clients easily
Why would you want to do that? As RMS would say, "We are not excluding them from our community; they are choosing not to enter".
> Disallow use of Arianne by Service providers
> that doesn't collaborate into Open Source
Why would you want to do that? If they're not producing a "derivative work", then they cannot infringe on anyone's copyright. I'm not entirely sure what's meant by "collaborate into"; if it means "contribute", then it's blatantly unfair (why should a distributer/service provider have to also write code for the priviledge?); if it means "co-operate with", well it still doesn't make sense
> We DON'T forbid commercialization of Arianne
GPL doesn't do that either.
> we forbid closing source the application.
GPL does that.
I don't understand where this compulsion to avoid the GPL is coming from. I mean, we're writing *free* software here, yes? Seems to be the perfect candidate from where I'm sitting.
(For the full story on "commercialisation" vs GPL see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/pragmatic.html)
These sigs are more interesting tha
ALpha 2? And it was noted here two years ago?
When's it going to be finished. The next apocalypse?
Actually, Larry Wall has been releasing those at a pretty steady clip.
or does anyone else tremble in fear at the thought of clicking on any link in the
You are the man H3xa. One of the first posts that actually deal with the story. I just wanted to say that we are old now, growing up on Nintendo and SNES, where the games actually had stories(sometimes). I feel sorry for the kids of today, who's attention span is too short to actually read/listen to the story line. Must shoot zombies/terrorists/nazis/other enemy of the week. The only positive I suppose would be that it lets you truly appreciate games like Deus Ex.
Hey, who said anything about the UK here?!
We in the UK are well aware that we are not the center of the Universe, thanks. As it is, we have two offical languages (English, and Welsh). Three if you also count Scottish Galaic (sp?).
Theres no need to rant at the British people here on Slashdot, thanks.
You don't need to go that far.
;)
Hell, Square gets away with it without parodying anything.
Yay for lack of originality.
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Oooh err, we get to "know" Arianne as well? Anybody else find those biblical connotations amusing?
The design of Arianne takes care of that.
The server don't trust client information, and does not reveal expoitable information to the client.
This increases server work, but prohibits cheating as much as possible.
As far as the licensing issue, the Arianne team has nothing against closed-source clients, but will always provide an Open Source one.
my
to the Arianne folks on all their hard work!
I should have picked out the nickname Demosthenes!Tecumseh.
There's this company called Nevrax founded by Slashdot reader Lejade that makes a MUCH better engine: NeL AND it's released under the GPL, AND they are using it to make a very unique looking MMORPG called Ryzom. :(
Check out the screenshots in the "download" section! Although beware: the site is not very Mozilla friendly and uses Quicktime and Realmedia. Bleurgh!
Almost offtopic, but it relates:
So I'm browsing around last night for an RPG, or really any game which looks especially interesting. I run across many RPG engines... more engines than games. While this and other engines of course are interesting, I'm looking to play on them. Can someone tell me (us) where to get the good RPGs and other games?
Developers: We can use your help.
How is it that the nice people in the OSS community, who is comprised of some very intelligent people, actually believe that releasing a great game engine to other programmers will suddenly result in great games?
A game is successful because of content (graphics, gameplay, etc).
Programmers are notorious for making bad graphics, and being unable (in general, there are always a few at the outsides of the bell curves) to create good content.
We need some more artistic geeks for this stuff to really reveal its power.
Who's gonna bother writing a game for some obscure engine when you can do it all with flash or shockwave?
HEH....
How many word processors are there? How many people write the Great Amercian Novel?
An RPG, even a console-style one, takes a ton of work, not only programming, but lots and lots of art, scripting, CGI and other specialized tasks. One person can't bang it out and have something that meets professional standards, at least on the PC.
So far, we're not seeing a lot of successful community game projects. Maybe that will change, I'd like to think so, but I don't see it happening.
Jon Acheson
All opinions expressed herein are my own, and not those of my employers, who are appalled.
yet I got modded "Off Topic"......... oh well :(
- HeXa
Should somebody tell these guys that you can run the original nintendo zelda via an emulator?
Sounds [from an outsiders point of view] like its similar to wildtangent. Wildtangent has a pretty nice engine, very well documented. Of course, I don't think its GPLd, but just to point out that there are other 'internet engines' out there.
On an aside, try some of the games if you can. They're good-looking, and some of them are real fun.
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Don't worry, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep in a giant blender.
I recommend they skip .
"Cheating is not going to be allowed nor tolerated; if you are caught cheating you are going to be kicked off of the server and your possessions given to the local lord."
Wow! Too bad the US government wasn't running Arianne prior to Enron et al...
Science, like Nature, must also be tamed, with a view turned towards its preservation.
I recommend that they skip version 5.
Alternatively, you could stop taking the piss out of the guys' C++. I'm betting its a second language for him. Unless you can program in his first language (Logo?) at least as well as he programs in C++ your best bet is prolly to hush up.
As in the case of a ski lodge in which young women look for husbands and husbands look for young women, the situation is not as symmetric as it first appears.