We do that all the time, and it is not a problem at all. Our customers get periodic reports, we do ad-hoc reports for them, and they all get read-only access to the database. Because that way, everyone saves time and they get exactly what they want.
They can't bring down the production servers because they only get access to a clone. And each customer query is limited to something like 15 seconds of cpu time, after which it just returns an error code (this is an IBM system but Oracle must have a similar method of enforcing quotas).
OTOH, if your customer's only reason is wanting the ability for ad-hoc queries you probably just need to explain to them how they can load your csv-reports into a database.
The joke is that not only it takes four lines of unintellegible gibberish to do with JCL what we would today write as 'rm my/file/name', but also that, against all odds (and all that is holy), it still works today and is used in the exact same way it was used when somebody's grandfather first wrote it.
I also had to do the ECDL crap. It really is hard to learn again all of the basic things that you took ten minutes to discover 10 years ago. Starting an application. Drag & drop. Maximizing a window in three different ways. How to use Favorites in IE. And to think that there were people who actually failed the test!
All of it broken down into 7 (I think) lectures, each accompanied by a 2-4 hour training session I had to attend. What a horrible, horrible waste of my time and my employer's money. Even just thinking about it makes me a little angry.
Surely there are Germans who can't speak English that wouldn't agree ? As a German, I say screw them. They're the reason why I have to either pay way too much to get everything on DVD or watch it all (relatively illegally) on the internet where video and audio quality is crappy. Selfish bastards!
For a typical desktop system? Try getting the lowest absolute power x86 compatible cpu (speed doesn't matter). It certainly won't idle any slower than any other one, but it might do it more silently. These kind of metrics aren't meant to be interpreted by anyone and their mom.
Now if you're building a datacenter or, possibly a gaming rack, take a look at all of the processors that are actually fast enough for your demands and then pick the one that uses the least power under your actual expected load.
don't you guys indent your code anyway?
Well that's kinda the whole point. Programmers indent according to the block structure, so curly braces and begin/end keywords are pretty superfluous. One of the reasons why I dislike Pascal is that it's got at least four different keywords to mark the beginning an end of a block. It's just confusing. C-style languages are better, but the parenthesis are still redundant.
Why do those people love repeat themselves so much?
You can. But you can not do it on Windows, which is what the OP was talking about. That way, you can't install Firefox on a machine where you don't have admin access. As an example of how this works, try installing pidgin, or python on an unprivileged account.
That being said the reason I think US tourists get such a bad rap with other tourists is because they like to travel around in large groups by tour bus.
Nope. It's because they're loud and always act like they own the place.
I'll give you a dollar if you can find me ONE SINGLE deployment of mainframe COBOL that is being used for business that is not in the process of being phased out and redeveloped.
Where I work, COBOL is pretty much everywhere. Everything that doesn't have a GUI has always, and will in the forseeable future, be a COBOL program or a JCL (calling COBOL programs).
But you do have a point, COBOL is definetly the worst language I have tried, and even though I love programming I would never accept a COBOL-position, however well paid.
And I'm not sure what format you're talking about when you say 'plain email files' He probably means 'plain email files', as in text representation of the actual mail.
With that you'd have to then write software to parse out the individual fields ...like every e-mail client I know...
and import it to another format What for? What exactly do you think would happen to the.pst file when it is imported by most software (except for Outlook)? Your other points are valid, though.
It would certainly be nice to see Microsoft follow those standards. Never understood why they (and other developers) don't. It's not that it's harder to do, it's just another way.
Yes, yes, many applications won't install without admin privileges, but that is not because of the design of the underlying OS, but because the installer or the application itself was not written properly. There is absolutely no good reason for most applications to write to system folders or HKLM.
I wasn't saying that everyone can work without admin privileges, I was saying that they could if their applications supported that.
It is clearly not Windows' fault that most Software needs admin rights to install. In fact, I recently installed two (python and some tex distribution, I think) packages that asked me if I wanted to do a system-wide or only a user install.
And you certainly do not need admin rights for most of software development and testing, as long as you're not developing system apps, or testing the installer.
If you think network play in Generals was bad, you must've never played Red Alert. It was so horrible, but the addiction kept us trying again and again!
The Unix-style linebreaks aren't that bad, compared to the save-file-bug, where it would corrupt parts of your file if you'd, instead of clicking through the pulldown menus to save, use the key combos. This is on my NT 4 box at work, more modern versions of Windows might have an improved Notepad.
KDE has awesome working drag and drop. Drag a link to a playlist into a media player and it starts playing. Drag an email into an address book and the sender gets added. Drag a file onto an IM contact and you send it to them. Etc, etc.
Why would the user care if the program is still running in the background or not? When he clicks the Safari icon on the bottom, the running Safari process opens a new window. It's completely transparent, only it might be faster because the browser does not need to start again.
The computer does not care about how many processes are running. Right now I have 68 processes running on my computer and I don't think I woul notice if it were 680. As long as they aren't doing I/O all the time, that is.
Funny, I never used a version of emacs where cursor down did anything except just scrolling ONE LINE AND ONE LINE ONLY JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER TEXT APPLICATION ON THE PLANET.
Agree with your other points though.
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We do that all the time, and it is not a problem at all. Our customers get periodic reports, we do ad-hoc reports for them, and they all get read-only access to the database. Because that way, everyone saves time and they get exactly what they want.
They can't bring down the production servers because they only get access to a clone. And each customer query is limited to something like 15 seconds of cpu time, after which it just returns an error code (this is an IBM system but Oracle must have a similar method of enforcing quotas).
OTOH, if your customer's only reason is wanting the ability for ad-hoc queries you probably just need to explain to them how they can load your csv-reports into a database.
is there actually a joke in there?
The joke is that not only it takes four lines of unintellegible gibberish to do with JCL what we would today write as 'rm my/file/name', but also that, against all odds (and all that is holy), it still works today and is used in the exact same way it was used when somebody's grandfather first wrote it.
All of it broken down into 7 (I think) lectures, each accompanied by a 2-4 hour training session I had to attend. What a horrible, horrible waste of my time and my employer's money. Even just thinking about it makes me a little angry.
Surely there are Germans who can't speak English that wouldn't agree ?
As a German, I say screw them. They're the reason why I have to either pay way too much to get everything on DVD or watch it all (relatively illegally) on the internet where video and audio quality is crappy.
Selfish bastards!
For a typical desktop system? Try getting the lowest absolute power x86 compatible cpu (speed doesn't matter). It certainly won't idle any slower than any other one, but it might do it more silently. These kind of metrics aren't meant to be interpreted by anyone and their mom.
Now if you're building a datacenter or, possibly a gaming rack, take a look at all of the processors that are actually fast enough for your demands and then pick the one that uses the least power under your actual expected load.
don't you guys indent your code anyway?
Well that's kinda the whole point. Programmers indent according to the block structure, so curly braces and begin/end keywords are pretty superfluous. One of the reasons why I dislike Pascal is that it's got at least four different keywords to mark the beginning an end of a block. It's just confusing. C-style languages are better, but the parenthesis are still redundant. Why do those people love repeat themselves so much?
You can. But you can not do it on Windows, which is what the OP was talking about. That way, you can't install Firefox on a machine where you don't have admin access. As an example of how this works, try installing pidgin, or python on an unprivileged account.
Nope. It's because they're loud and always act like they own the place.
Where I work, COBOL is pretty much everywhere. Everything that doesn't have a GUI has always, and will in the forseeable future, be a COBOL program or a JCL (calling COBOL programs).
But you do have a point, COBOL is definetly the worst language I have tried, and even though I love programming I would never accept a COBOL-position, however well paid.
So what's the big deal? It's not like they're selling anthrax or killing puppies.
When since have kitchen appliances been considered an adult theme?
And I'm not sure what format you're talking about when you say 'plain email files'
.pst file when it is imported by most software (except for Outlook)? Your other points are valid, though.
He probably means 'plain email files', as in text representation of the actual mail.
With that you'd have to then write software to parse out the individual fields
...like every e-mail client I know...
and import it to another format
What for? What exactly do you think would happen to the
It would certainly be nice to see Microsoft follow those standards. Never understood why they (and other developers) don't. It's not that it's harder to do, it's just another way.
Yes, yes, many applications won't install without admin privileges, but that is not because of the design of the underlying OS, but because the installer or the application itself was not written properly. There is absolutely no good reason for most applications to write to system folders or HKLM.
I wasn't saying that everyone can work without admin privileges, I was saying that they could if their applications supported that.
It is clearly not Windows' fault that most Software needs admin rights to install. In fact, I recently installed two (python and some tex distribution, I think) packages that asked me if I wanted to do a system-wide or only a user install. And you certainly do not need admin rights for most of software development and testing, as long as you're not developing system apps, or testing the installer.
wouldnt it be funny if in a future everyone only commicated with email and im, so when they're actually in person they say the emoticons
I actually know a lot of people who use lol, rofl, *wink* etc. like they are real words. It's quite sad, really.
If you think network play in Generals was bad, you must've never played Red Alert. It was so horrible, but the addiction kept us trying again and again!
Please, understand what you are fighting for.
Please, understand that some people aren't fighting.
"Web Diplomacy"?
The Unix-style linebreaks aren't that bad, compared to the save-file-bug, where it would corrupt parts of your file if you'd, instead of clicking through the pulldown menus to save, use the key combos. This is on my NT 4 box at work, more modern versions of Windows might have an improved Notepad.
Reboot in the morning? Sounds stupid. Why not turn it off in the evening?
Why would the user care if the program is still running in the background or not? When he clicks the Safari icon on the bottom, the running Safari process opens a new window. It's completely transparent, only it might be faster because the browser does not need to start again.
The computer does not care about how many processes are running. Right now I have 68 processes running on my computer and I don't think I woul notice if it were 680. As long as they aren't doing I/O all the time, that is.
Now the normal slashdot is very readable in lynx.
Funny, I never used a version of emacs where cursor down did anything except just scrolling ONE LINE AND ONE LINE ONLY JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER TEXT APPLICATION ON THE PLANET. Agree with your other points though.