QuickTime 6 Is Out
flamingnight writes "If you go to Apple's QuickTime page, you'll notice that QuickTime 6 has been released. No mention of QT 5 anywhere on the site. Features include the long-awaited MPEG-4 support, 50+ input/output formats, and plenty of A/V codecs and video effects (see Apple - QuickTime - Specifications for a full list)." It's available for Mac OS 8/9, Mac OS X 10.1.3+, and Windows 98/2000/NT/Me/XP (does anyone actually use Windows Me?). Just remember that your QuickTime 5 key won't work with QuickTime 6.
Let the file association war continue....
Considering MacWorld begins in less than 48 hours, why release now? I would have thought this would have been the big thing during the keynote along with Jaguar.
Are they trying to one-up the Corona announcement from MS?
QT5? What Quicktime 5?
There was no Quicktime 5. All of you must be remembering wrong. There is only Quicktime 6.
Never confuse volume with power.
Now will someone point me to a decent howto on how to get .mov, .qt or .mpeg/.avi/MPEG4/Divix :-) to play on my kde desktop? I've tried this in the past and all I ever get are tons of headaches and eventually I just give up.
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MS Talks... Apple ships.
Nice job Apple (for once.)
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QuickTime is one of the few reasons I reboot under Windows from time to time. Gotta watch that Two Towers trailer... :)
Still can't import an mpeg-2 video. My capture card has a hardware mpeg-2 encoder. Figures... :-(
wow this is a new low, slashdotters not only dont read the linked material they also refuse to read the three sentences that are describing the story.
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"Whether you use a Macintosh or Windows-based PC, you can harness the power of QuickTime Pro for media authoring and play back of high-quality audio and video. All for just $29.99."
More Info: http://www.apple.com/quicktime/upgrade/
I don't know why they don't give Pro away on new desktops. You drop $1500 on a powermac and they want $30 more?
Even Win95 users are laughing at you for that. ME should have been called "Mistaken Edition" for combining the worst aspects of Win98 and Win2K into one horrible mishmash that makes Win3.1 users feel superior.
To celebrate the occasion of my 1000th post, I will post no more forever on Slashdot. Goodbye.
Crossover plugin seems to still be downloading QT5 installer. Has anyone got QT6 running under crossover?
interesting idea. that's one way to limit the server load.
I don't understand...the 30$ I paid the first time doesn't cover the royalties? Bull Oney, I say!
does anyone actually use Windows Me?
Yes, a whole bunch of people, but they think they are running Windows 2000. I've had to break the bad news to four people so far when I helped them fix their computers. Great MS marketing. Millenium? 2000? whats the difference.
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon, Marshal of France - speaking truth to power
You've just proven that you lie in your signature.
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Here's how to get rid of the QT nag screens. QT will nag you the first time it's launched each day (or some increment of time). When you choose "Later" it sets a value in the registry to remind you tomorrow.
So, set your clock forward about twenty years (make sure you close any meeting reminder software first) and then launch QT. Tell it "Later" and then set your clock back. Haven't tested this with QT6, but it worked with 5.
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Does anyone know if Quicktime 6 supports AVI and DV files over 2GB? Quicktime 5 cuts off all video beyond the 2GB mark on AVI and DV files.
Yes! The ultimate codec! You have no idea how long I've been looking for one of those.
IWARS.
People, in general, disappoint me. Politicians even more so.
Hm, I can't help but fear that this may have a negative impact on the acceptance of Linux among the all-important college student and single IT worker demographics.
Basically, Linux has caught on with people who, due to constant exposure to Windows, hate Microsoft. These people happen to be largely male, largely affluent, and largely large (ha ha).
These days, if you're going non-Windows, you don't have many choices. Basically, it's down to Linux and Mac. And when these anti-MS geeks choose their OS, they will choose the one of these that best suits their needs. QuickTime 6 will give them the ability to watch their multi-gig porn collections and pirated DIVX files, without all of the messy command line mucking about that is necessary for multimedia under Linux.
As a Linux user, I wish Apple hadn't released this. Or at the very least, that Slashdot (a pro-Linux site) hadn't reported it. *sigh*
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Obviously, you don't understand that QuickTime isn't a codec, but an architecture with which to manipulate video and audio.
Maybe you're just an old-skool apple basher who is deserately clinging onto any outdated viewpoint you can in order to convince your friends that you made a good computer purchasing decision.
No! WinME is windows without user-space.
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Hell, I have OS 7 running on the Mac SE sitting to my right. If bored, start up it and the shiny, dual-processor G4 servers to my left and compare. LOL
I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
Strangely enough, yes. Mac OS 8.6 was BULLETPROOF. I remember running an ALPHA version of ASIP 6.0 on 8.6 for several months without a reboot. I've also had production machines that have gone well over a year 8.6 w/o anything bad happening to them.
Compared to the bloat and (early) instability of OS 9, OS 8.6 made them lean, mean, classic Mac OS machines. Really the only reason not to use that as a reference release would be if you were short on RAM.
Hire a Linux system administrator, systems engineer,
except that it crashes every 15min XP crashes every 30.
I have WinMe running some dynamic DNS software, Netscape and telnet once in a while. It does not crash. Again, it does not crash. It's been running for a few weeks, the last time it restarted was when my power went out and my UPS ran out.
By itself, Windows never crashes. It just can't handle running programs!
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...and Quicktime 7, though it would be very unstable, is suspected to exist.
Beta only seems to work for Google. Such a shame.
Oh wait, that comment was already written...
But For the longest time I was running 8.5 (*NOT* 8.6, 8.5!) simply becuase I never had to reboot. If it isn't broke, don't fix it! (however when I wanted some more applscript support and usb I had to upgrade to 8.6)
P.S.- not only does that machine still boot into 8.6 and linuxppc, but it also boots into 7.6! Why? I have some old sound apps that only run under it. So be it.
Heck, if I want to use my powermac as a glorified Apple ][gs (running bernie ][ the rescue!) I can do that too! I'm crazy!(plus it also lets me play NEUROMANCER)
In the future, I would want to not be isolated from my friends in the Space Station.
Simple. Once you do this, you will never have to worry about Quicktime ever when using a KDE desktop on your UNIX system.
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.
I for one would want the NT kernel, as it was far more stable than the Windows 98...
Windows ME, more than anything else, is just Windows 98 Third Edition + a little movie maker program for fun.
IMHO, better than 98, worse than 2000, and XP, well, I'm not gonna touch XP w/ a 100000' pole yet.
Ah, nothing like seeing Apple/Akamai stand up to slashdot like noone else can. I had use Internet Explorer instead of Mozilla just so I could see what the download speed was (mozilla doesn't display final speed when download is complete). 10 MB/s (that's Megabytes). Talk about no slashdot effect at all!
What?
It's not as bad because it's nearly impossible to get ME to talk to other machines on the network. I guess they figure you wouldn't put that much effort into sharing stuff with someone you didn't implicitly trust...
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Sell them to VAR's?
Yup. Right after they released the new iBooks a couple months ago, MacZone had tons of the discontinued iBook 500 models for sale. In fact, the most recent MacZone I got still had them. I would imagine that other resellers, like PowerMax, do the same thing.
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Still no Vorbis support listed in the codecs section!
Would it have been SOOOOO hard to build in a Vorbis decoder from xiph.org's BSD-licensed reference decorder? HUH? WOULD IT?
*sigh*... Oh, well. Perhaps some day they'll give in and build in Vorbis support.
Any Mac-aware types care to guess on if/when this'll happen?
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Yeah, it's a teaser, not much to see. I just saw it, it's very cool. I just finished the book, which is really great.
Three simple letters. That's all I wanted. How long must us iTunes whores be slaves to the mp3 format? Maybe the next iTunes release will support it, but I figure that if it's not in QT, it's not gonna be in iTunes.
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Anyone out there have Final Cut Pro and installed QT6 (without getting a new key)?
I would like to be able to use the free parts of QT6 (Downloading trailers for one), but still be able to use FCP at full QT5Pro strength. If anyone out there has already done this, please post your experience. Thanks in advance!
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Yes, it's time once again for file-format(and codec) roulette. Where you install an update to your media player, and wonder, which files that used to not play will play, and which files that used to play will not (as some obscure alpha codec you downloaded last year gets overwritten by it's broken progeny, or removed altogether by the installer looking to "tidy things up").
I swear, with QT 3.0 I could play ANYTHING. Then with 4.0, a bunch of files just wouldn't play anymore, then with 5.0, a bunch more broke, and pretty much every new file coming out was in some bastardized version of DivX that either didn't work at all or had no audio, or had audio but no video, and I downloaded every codex imaginable, DivX, 3ivX, and every media-cleaner program, converter, translator, set of video tools, and nothing fucking fixed it - and nobody could offer a coherent explanation as to why.
So should I install QT 6 - and watch another round of the player helplessly trying to download codecs that aren't there, never were there, and never will be there, while the player shows a white screen? Or should I go back to QT 3.0, where I can simply watch everything. (except the DivX crap).
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I should clarify....
By saying that I boot ME every few months means that I only use ME every few months. My P233 with ME dual boots FreeBSD. I can't get > 2 hours of uptime out of ME, but I'm usually beating the crap out of it and running it on slow hardware. It's everything bad about 98 with some beta stuff from XP. Scenario: I needed a Windoze box for infrequent use. Win95 won't support USB. Win98 has issues with my NIC. ME conquers both, and gives me the benefit of the best games of the three. Win2K or XP? Too bulky to run on my box.
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I'm looking to dump Windows Media Player once and for all -- I'll accept whatever version ships with Windows 2000, but I've grown wear of having to worry about EULA updates and security holes in my friggin' video player, of all things. That being said, are there any known evil features in Quicktime 6? Things that Apple has built into it that will affect the way I work, without exception? DRM is the obvious example of this, but any addition info would be welcome...........
I just bought the unlock license for QT 5 Pro a few weeks ago. I just called a friendly Apple sales rep and asked if there were any opportunities to get a discount on the QT 6 unlock, or a refund on the QT 5 license. She indicated that there were no such opportunities, but that I should check back later. If anyone finds different, let us know.
No, no, no. This is not a sig.
Quicktime Broadcaster has also been released:
s te r/
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/broadca
Ho hum. Still no Ogg Vorbis support.
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Apple released on the same day MPEG-LA announced licensing fees for MPEG-4 Visual, Systems and MPEG-J patents. Details here.
Actually, quicktime seems to work quite well on linux via, for example, mplayer, with the sole exception that I've run into of SVQ3 (Sorenson, of course). SVQ1 is even working now, with optimized code (also appearing in FFMPEG) based on the reverse engineering done by the folks working on Xine. Oddly enough, the specifications page for QT6 mentiones SVQ2 and SVQ3, but implies that it DOESN'T support SVQ1...
If the release of QT6 means that MPEG4 will become the "default" codec for QuickTime movies as time goes on (as some posts, As well as several of the QuickTime pages at Apple, are hinting), the "quicktime barrier" to video on linux will all but disappear, since as far as I can tell just about every variant of MPEG4 works on Linux in some form or another. I suppose this depends on how the dispute between Apple and Sorenson goes...(anybody heard anything about that lately?) and how long it takes someone to work out how to interpret the type of what I assume are "pointer files" or something of the sort on the previously mentioned apple Quicktime Mpeg4 page (mplayer seems to have trouble decoding them...)
Of course, somewhere in here I should insert the obligatory comment about Ogg Theora and how I wish they'd hurry up and get the mailing lists working and get a working prototype that I can test, but as I can't think of what to say, I won't....
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The current VLC is still broke with the final QT6. Maybe they'll release an updated one soon. They seem to blame Apple.
I'm definitely not upgrading to QT 6 Pro, since I just got QT 5 Pro before the announcement of 6 Pro.
Thanks to MPEG4IP MPEG-4 streaming capabilities, from an encoded MPEG-4 file (it has a converter, that can take XviD encoded AVIs and output .mp4), or live Video4Linux encoding. If only they could get rid of the patenting issues completely...
and there will be no nags, for a couple years.
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Gee tops... I just downloaded it (WinXP) and still found:
.mov file... I make MPEGs or Divx... :)
* It still puts an icon on the desktop and quicklaunch bar without asking
* It now puts a system tray icon also without asking, did it use to do that?
* It still always starts up with the damn 'Register now' dialog. Don't they make enough money via making it one of the standards out there and virtually forcing any company serious about video on the web to purchase QTPro in order to create compatible video? (I have no problem with that as a way of making money, I completely agree that if you're creating content for the web using their system, then, yup, pay for it, their prices are reasonable... but surely I shouldn't be bugged about the fact that this product exists when I have no desire to ever create a
* Still can't play fullscreen unless you pay for it
* I still don't see why it's so damn loved... as cludgy as the interface of WMP is, at least I can easily create playlists by dragging my files into the player, can always play fullscreen and I don't have to put up with any 'register now' pretty please' dialogues.
Of course I _have_ to have QT on my system if I want to watch all the latest movie trailers in nice quality, but their software isn't nice, it's intrusive, and I don't like that.
(Of course it has nothing on Realplayer... man I dislike that!)
(does anyone actually use Windows Me?).
Came on my laptop, a ToeCheezba Satellite, runs tolerably well, and is absolutely not worth the aggravation to upgrade.
I'd sooner invest in a dot com than try to install my RH7.2 distro on here.
Since you asked.
Get thee glass eyes, and, like a scurvy politician, seem to see things thou dost not.--King Lear
the 30$ I paid the first time doesn't cover the royalties?
Seriously? No, it didn't, because the version you paid for didn't include MPEG 4.
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*Finally* an industry standard for streaming. This means the end of the Sorenson codec that has caused so many aches to Linux users.
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Real and Apple have commited to MPEG-4, the specification is open and there is no implementation fee (only a fee for non-free streams, ie free streams are not charged!)
http://news.com.com/2100-1023-943990.html?tag=f
This means that the new LOTR trailer and all future trailers can be viewed w/o proprietary codecs. Now all we need is for someone to deliver a MPEG-4 codec for Linux. I would help writing one, but I have no prior video experience.
We need to rally behind MPEG-4 and bring it to our platform. Else we'll see Microsoft stealing the market with a DRM based proprietary WMP codecs!!
Is there anyone working on MPEG-4 codecs for Linux besides these guys ?
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This may be a dumb question (because since I run Linux and I own an old fashioned TV, and I love to go to movies in old fashioned multiplex's I have never really been into online video.) But if I were to run into some movie files online..and it wasn't advertised what codecs they required (or what version of what codec), how would I determine what codec (or what version of said codec) I needed to be able to partake of the wonder in front of me? It has always seemed pretty confusing to me. At least with audio if the extension is .mp3 I could be confident that 99% of players that advertised themselves as mp3 players would do the trick.
(+1 Funny) only if I laugh out loud.
QT plays some avi but DivX is something different for DivX download DivX Doctor 2 and 3ivx Delta 4, Preview Release 1. To install Delta 4 click on the script and it will automatic install the code for you. Cellulo is a good movie player I use it mostly for play lists for hundreds of split movie files. For DivX that DivX Doctor can't play which are few I use MPlayerOSX. This is all you need no more no less? id=148 51&db=mac
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http://www.versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fcgi
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http://www.3ivx.com/download/macos_4_pr1.html
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I have a box (P3-500/768mb RAM) whose sole mission in life is to test stuff. It's had WinME on it for almost 2 years. Out of the box ME was a mess -- couldn't do anything without a crash. But!! I turned off Restore, I ran 98Lite in default mode, and I forced a DOS boot via the MFD patch. (And I make a point of quitting and restarting if I accidentally run the "new" help engine, because it WILL cause a crash, usually about 15 minutes later.) Since being beaten into submission, WinME has not crashed ONCE, even tho it's also the test box for hordes of ill-behaved applications of every description. (Tho WinME still has terrible resource management, which limits multitasking to no more than two apps, and it slows down to unusable after about 4 hours of real work, apparently due to piss-poor swapfile management. Gotta try it with the swapfile disabled, like I run Win98 on an identical system.)
... and the biggest reason of all: I install ZERO M$ software other than Windows itself. M$'s own apps are Windows' worst enemy. (Did you know that OfficeXP overrides WinXP's system DLL protection??)
.. um, CNet, I think. (Over 30% negatives, mostly from clueful people who reported problems in great detail.) So... I'm looking for an alternative to QT (preferably free) that can play these newfangled AVIs that insist they need QT5. Any suggestions?
But... *none* of my WinBoxen crash
Now, that said... I also don't install stuff that gets such horrible user reviews as QT5 did over on
~REZ~ #43301. Who'd fake being me anyway?
I wonder if history will remember that it was Apple (part of the patent group) that fought the proposal to charge a fee to the end user for every second of every stream viewed? And won.
Thank-you Apple. Really.
Apple is now allowing downloads without entering an email address. They explicitly set the email address field off in a seperate box from the OS choice. The "Download" button is centered below both of them and can clearly be used with the email field empty. And the email field is under the heading "Subscribe to Newsletters". Very nice. How's that for privacy ? The two subscriptions checkboxes are even off by default.
The EULA is standard boilerplate for Apple. It has all their usual media, disclaimer of warranty and tranfer of license clauses (You are permitted to sell your used Apple software). They also disclaim any responsibility for third-party websites. Lastly, they note that the MPEG-2 components are licensed solely for consumer use and not for " ENCODING VIDEO INFORMATION FOR PACKAGED MEDIA" (whatever packaged media really means), and then gives contact info for MPEG LA, LLC for other licensing arrangements (no URL). The Pro EULA may differ.
Not bad. It says absolutely nothing about user created content. Since the free version doesn't allow much creation, the Pro version may again have a different license.
Text of EULA follows.
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MOD THAT GUY UP:
Informative, underrated.
I was a bit annoyed by QT6 since it couldn't read my DivX files anymore, now it can.
You can't take the sky from me...
The trailer is basically just a flyby of the space station. Which looks cool. It's moody and atmospheric (or the lack thereof). The big deal is the three names shown. Cameron, Soderberg (drunk, fix later), Clooney. This should be well marketed, and has a chance of being good.
The website is nothing. Just the trailer and a "register for updates" popup. I gave them my spamtrap address at yahoo.
And we can't say this enough people, read Stanislaw Lem ! Anyone in a tech field will appreciate "The Cyberiad", and anyone reading at or above their grade level will appreciate anything he wrote.
Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1992-1951
translation - we can get some extra dough from the qt5 users while some 12 year old spends an hour making a key generator.
Not that suprising, but I guess you haven't been to apple's web site recently.
G4 tower 1,600
iBook 1,200
G4 iMac 1,400
eMac 1,100
And all of those computers are quite capable machines.
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World Domination with a plastic spoon since 1984
For all the QT6 delays Apple caused by refusing to pay MPEG-4 license fees, you'd think they'd include open formats like Ogg Vorbis and VP3 as a bit of a retort. Why'd they exclude them?
I'll bite becasue I'm bored and have nothing better to do.
If we assume that computers have some berring on sexual prefference, and we assume from your above statement that
mac=gay
and
windows=straight
then we can also surmise that
linux= bisexual prostitutes
and
solaris= neutered
Ironicaly, if we take the numbers, and assume that windows does indeed have 90% of the market share, then it is more likely than not that the majority of pedophiles as you described in your post are windows users. Sux to be a windows user.
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I dunno if it came with QT or if it came from the Toast installer, but on my computer, I have the option of encoding video to the toast VCD format. And if you want to make VCDs, and have a buring program that supports the creation of VCDs, I would assume you have an ecoding codec somewhere, go look for it.
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Another argument against a completely open / free video codecs and QT. Somethings in life are best kept controled. Consider what would happen if all the people out there with a little bit of inkling towards coding started making their own variatees of codecs. You could have 30 versions of the next MPEG codec, each just a little different, and each incompatible with the rest of em. Somethings are best left standardized, video codecs are one of them.
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I'm just sort of curious why we get a picture of an iPod for a QT announcement.. I mean you'd think an Apple logo or a QT logo would make more sense. Hoh well...
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here. My windows 2k needed to be reinstalled, and it wasn't easy finding the download, so I thought I'd post it.
Quicktime's upgrade policy sucks.
I was mug enough to fork out $ for version 4 and then, shortly afterwards, they bought out version 5 and wanted more $
What's more, the lame "Check for Quicktime Updates" function never ever worked from behind my firewall.
I'll stick with DivX thanks.
Somethings are best left standardized, video codecs are one of them.
Yeah, that's what standards bodies are for. Doesn't mean the standard has to be proprietary (Sorensen).
Quite simply, Apple, *can't* base QT entirely on "open standards" simply because it's a container format, the codecs are what matter. Since Apple doesn't own all the codecs, they can't make that happen.
That wasn't a troll; it was poorly worded, perhaps. I'm quite aware that QT is a container format just like AVI and that the specs are open. On the other hand, it has been Apple's choice whether or not to include totally proprietary codecs (like Sorensens') as part of their proprietary QT implementation / distribution. In this sense, they are forcing Sorensen down people's throats by first including it by default and then marketing it by making deals such that new movie trailers, streamed content, etc. are ONLY released with this encoding--and only playable with the latest official Quicktime release. Apple, Real, and M$ are all trying to become the big "gateway" to online media by forcing their own proprietary standards in one way or another. Either way, this is not good.
Set your current year to 2099. Run QuickTime. Watch the uncaught Integer Overflow exception!
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So yeah, I was shy $100 for the powermac.
I'd look into iMovie. I can't imagine they made that without a VCD codec
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Well, if I were you I'd run out and by a lottery ticket.
ME crashes all the time on my buddies computer, you could get it to do it on command. We finally upgraded it to XP and it doesn't crash.... as often (now and then it likes to just stop responding, and it seems to delete a couple DLLs every little while).
But like my dad always says, if your machine isn't crashing, you're not working hard enough.
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Windows 95OSR2 will run USB if you apply the USB supplement.
USB support in 95C is shoddy at best. Yes, it has the USB supplement, and SOMETIMES it works. In my case, it doesn't.
As for Windows 98, if you are not using 98SE I would seriously try that
Most people don't acknowledge a version of 98 prior to SE. I sure don't.
2K and XP will also run on lower end CPUs (166Mhz and higher I think)
Unless you want to *DO* something, yes.
There is no reasonable defense against an idiot with an agenda
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The quicktime architecture was taken as a basis for the MPEG-4 standard so any MP4 players that are out there are, in a sense, quicktime players under a different name. As voracious users of wannabe imitation software linux users should be used to that.
It's also a nice change from the "here, download this 500K program that then connects to an Apple server and downloads the other 20MB at the slowest speed possible" approach to distributing Quicktime.
Disk images are definitely the way to go.
As for online retailers, like Mamall, or Smalldog. Also check out http://www.lowendmac.com.
The other plus is that I have my downloads go to a folder in my home directory, rather than the Desktop to keep things clean, but then I can mount the disk image and it's easily accessible on the Desktop, without having to open a Finder window to get at it.
It was an opened box and is now 2 years old.
MPEG-2 available here as a separate install and charge. Why it's extra I dunno, but it is in fact available.
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$tar -xvf
But, of course, DVD Studio Pro gives you so much more than an MPEG encoder.
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