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QuickTime 6 Is Out
flamingnight writes "If you go to Apple's QuickTime page, you'll notice that QuickTime 6 has been released. No mention of QT 5 anywhere on the site. Features include the long-awaited MPEG-4 support, 50+ input/output formats, and plenty of A/V codecs and video effects (see Apple - QuickTime - Specifications for a full list)." It's available for Mac OS 8/9, Mac OS X 10.1.3+, and Windows 98/2000/NT/Me/XP (does anyone actually use Windows Me?). Just remember that your QuickTime 5 key won't work with QuickTime 6.
Just remember that your QuickTime 5 key won't work with QuickTime 6.
Oh damn... now I'll have to wait until a new key generator is released... err, um, I mean, I'll have to go re-buy it. Yes, off to buy it I go!
Does this mean I need to buy another key to get Quicktime 6 to work even if I already bought one for 5?
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Let the file association war continue....
It's available for Mac OS 8/9, Mac OS X 10.1.3+, and Windows 98/2000/NT/Me/XP (does anyone actually use Windows Me?). Does anyone actually use OS8?
Considering MacWorld begins in less than 48 hours, why release now? I would have thought this would have been the big thing during the keynote along with Jaguar.
Are they trying to one-up the Corona announcement from MS?
Now will someone point me to a decent howto on how to get .mov, .qt or .mpeg/.avi/MPEG4/Divix :-) to play on my kde desktop? I've tried this in the past and all I ever get are tons of headaches and eventually I just give up.
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MS Talks... Apple ships.
Nice job Apple (for once.)
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So, does this mean that they have finally worked out a license deal for MPEG-4, and if so, what is it?
Protoplasm. Quiet Protoplasm. I like quiet protoplasm.
QuickTime is one of the few reasons I reboot under Windows from time to time. Gotta watch that Two Towers trailer... :)
Still can't import an mpeg-2 video. My capture card has a hardware mpeg-2 encoder. Figures... :-(
I tried getting my QuickTime 5 to download the update, but it hadn't heard of it, so I went to the site and am downloading now...So it is out for Windows.
I'm always amazed by Apple removing any reference of previous products from their site the second a new one is released...
They do it with computers all the time, how do they get rid of their current stock? Sell them to VAR's?
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http://www.apple.com/quicktime/products/broadcaste r/
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and an odd unfinished area for training. Looks like things are getting together technically before the legislation can smother it.
Even Win95 users are laughing at you for that. ME should have been called "Mistaken Edition" for combining the worst aspects of Win98 and Win2K into one horrible mishmash that makes Win3.1 users feel superior.
To celebrate the occasion of my 1000th post, I will post no more forever on Slashdot. Goodbye.
Crossover plugin seems to still be downloading QT5 installer. Has anyone got QT6 running under crossover?
interesting idea. that's one way to limit the server load.
does anyone actually use Windows Me?
Yes, a whole bunch of people, but they think they are running Windows 2000. I've had to break the bad news to four people so far when I helped them fix their computers. Great MS marketing. Millenium? 2000? whats the difference.
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You've just proven that you lie in your signature.
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Can any one say me if he/she can veiw the solaris trailer?
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Has anyone had the same results as well?
This greatly disturbes me. Apple makes the trailers available for free download, yet keeps you from saving the file on your hard drive. I used to save every trailer from every cool movie that's come out in the past few years. Now I can't?!
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Here's how to get rid of the QT nag screens. QT will nag you the first time it's launched each day (or some increment of time). When you choose "Later" it sets a value in the registry to remind you tomorrow.
So, set your clock forward about twenty years (make sure you close any meeting reminder software first) and then launch QT. Tell it "Later" and then set your clock back. Haven't tested this with QT6, but it worked with 5.
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Does anyone know if Quicktime 6 supports AVI and DV files over 2GB? Quicktime 5 cuts off all video beyond the 2GB mark on AVI and DV files.
Yes! The ultimate codec! You have no idea how long I've been looking for one of those.
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Hm, I can't help but fear that this may have a negative impact on the acceptance of Linux among the all-important college student and single IT worker demographics.
Basically, Linux has caught on with people who, due to constant exposure to Windows, hate Microsoft. These people happen to be largely male, largely affluent, and largely large (ha ha).
These days, if you're going non-Windows, you don't have many choices. Basically, it's down to Linux and Mac. And when these anti-MS geeks choose their OS, they will choose the one of these that best suits their needs. QuickTime 6 will give them the ability to watch their multi-gig porn collections and pirated DIVX files, without all of the messy command line mucking about that is necessary for multimedia under Linux.
As a Linux user, I wish Apple hadn't released this. Or at the very least, that Slashdot (a pro-Linux site) hadn't reported it. *sigh*
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Obviously, you don't understand that QuickTime isn't a codec, but an architecture with which to manipulate video and audio.
Maybe you're just an old-skool apple basher who is deserately clinging onto any outdated viewpoint you can in order to convince your friends that you made a good computer purchasing decision.
ME is XP without the security flaws, the NT kernel, and the bloat.
...ME is actually the worst bits of 95/98 (the kernel, the crashes) combined with the unfinished worst bits from XP (the media player integration, the pretty pictures etc). It also has the same unecessary upgrade path... ME over 98 release 2... XP over 2000.
Maybe you're just lucky. I've had a pretty good experience with XP, it's quite stable, but ME? ME is the worst piece of shit I've ever used. I can't imagine that you were able to run ME for *weeks* let alone *months* at a time.
Hmm...looks like they slipped up at least once:
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"Over in that cabinet. It's next to the reality distortion field generator."
only several million people...
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No! WinME is windows without user-space.
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Go to any folder on your destop:
tools -> folder options -> filetypes and change the association with PNG to whatever you want it to be.
BTW in the quicktime install you were the one who agreed to associate PNG with Quicktime. That isn't Mozilla's doing at all.
Strangely enough, yes. Mac OS 8.6 was BULLETPROOF. I remember running an ALPHA version of ASIP 6.0 on 8.6 for several months without a reboot. I've also had production machines that have gone well over a year 8.6 w/o anything bad happening to them.
Compared to the bloat and (early) instability of OS 9, OS 8.6 made them lean, mean, classic Mac OS machines. Really the only reason not to use that as a reference release would be if you were short on RAM.
Hire a Linux system administrator, systems engineer,
Just in time for the MacWorld Keynote webcast on Wednesday.
but what I want to know:
was Apple able to strong arm the removal of the bullshit MPEG-4 money making scheme that its patent holders initially pressed?
My mommy says that when all the evil monsters go away then we can have quicktime in linux.
kyjello is too damn smooth to make a signature.
except that it crashes every 15min XP crashes every 30.
I have WinMe running some dynamic DNS software, Netscape and telnet once in a while. It does not crash. Again, it does not crash. It's been running for a few weeks, the last time it restarted was when my power went out and my UPS ran out.
By itself, Windows never crashes. It just can't handle running programs!
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...and Quicktime 7, though it would be very unstable, is suspected to exist.
Beta only seems to work for Google. Such a shame.
Oh wait, that comment was already written...
But For the longest time I was running 8.5 (*NOT* 8.6, 8.5!) simply becuase I never had to reboot. If it isn't broke, don't fix it! (however when I wanted some more applscript support and usb I had to upgrade to 8.6)
P.S.- not only does that machine still boot into 8.6 and linuxppc, but it also boots into 7.6! Why? I have some old sound apps that only run under it. So be it.
Heck, if I want to use my powermac as a glorified Apple ][gs (running bernie ][ the rescue!) I can do that too! I'm crazy!(plus it also lets me play NEUROMANCER)
In the future, I would want to not be isolated from my friends in the Space Station.
I got a clean download on the first try, and it installed smoothly. Nothing has blown up...yet. :-)
This is my post. There are many others like it. If you don't like what you read here, go try one of the others.
ps. I know you can buy software that will make it work on linux, but you know someone will still post it.
So it can playback and (presumably) encode an MPEG-4 stream. What would be much more insteresting is if they start using MPEG-4 as the "default" codec instead of sorenson (e.g. on apple.com/trailers). That could make life much easier for linux users who want view said trailers.
Simple. Once you do this, you will never have to worry about Quicktime ever when using a KDE desktop on your UNIX system.
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I for one would want the NT kernel, as it was far more stable than the Windows 98...
Windows ME, more than anything else, is just Windows 98 Third Edition + a little movie maker program for fun.
IMHO, better than 98, worse than 2000, and XP, well, I'm not gonna touch XP w/ a 100000' pole yet.
Ah, nothing like seeing Apple/Akamai stand up to slashdot like noone else can. I had use Internet Explorer instead of Mozilla just so I could see what the download speed was (mozilla doesn't display final speed when download is complete). 10 MB/s (that's Megabytes). Talk about no slashdot effect at all!
What?
Yeah, i sumbitted this as a story, but it got rejected... anyways, MPlayer has Sorenson support now.
This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
It's not as bad because it's nearly impossible to get ME to talk to other machines on the network. I guess they figure you wouldn't put that much effort into sharing stuff with someone you didn't implicitly trust...
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I don't use quicktime myself so I'm wondering if apple has changed their EULA from 5 to 6. Also what sort of DRM quicktime has (if any) bundled along with it. Basically, is the nag window to purchase the pro version the only downside to using quicktime 6? If so perhaps this is now a good alternative to MS mediaplayer.
Please peruse the EULA. We all know what fate befell the poor saps who installed the latest MS Media Player! This could be a big winner if apple can show MS up with a few nice blatant ads in with their system ads. Trouble is, sooner or later they'll have the DRM noose around their necks anyway, if not already.
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I believe what you're saying, it's just that I've had a completely different experience.
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Still no linux version, what a shame, and don't point me to that codeweavers junk. Linux users shouldn't have to pay and run it un-native when its free and native for everyone else.
Still no Vorbis support listed in the codecs section!
Would it have been SOOOOO hard to build in a Vorbis decoder from xiph.org's BSD-licensed reference decorder? HUH? WOULD IT?
*sigh*... Oh, well. Perhaps some day they'll give in and build in Vorbis support.
Any Mac-aware types care to guess on if/when this'll happen?
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"Yes, I use it as my Windows box. It gets booted every few months, when I either need to test something or I need to get my internet checkers fix. ME is XP without the security flaws, the NT kernel, and the bloat"
xp without the nt kernel?
more like win95 with a different look. and crashes more (more than 95/98).
hardly a good os.
That article was written three years ago. Most of the information doesn't apply anymore (for example, the volume control and the dead space around the video).
Why doesn't apple support (export) mpeg-2? Its really $*&% inconvenient not to be able to export to a SVCD ready format, and I thought apple was the media monster...
Thank god for transcode!
Quack, quack.
They *have* fixed the UI... for the most part. Gone are the "thumb wheel" and the strange drawer/tab pulldown. I understand that upon casual inspection the brushed aluminium appearance is the same, but if you actually take the time to look, it has changed. That being said, I *hate* the brushed aluminium look. I'd rather have it be a standard window widget much like the old Movie Player application. One of these days I will make one in Cocoa, as I still haven't found one that I liked...
Anyone else want one?
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could you please tell me if they fixed the flickering window? in qt5 it was like the only program that flickered really really badly when any other windows were moved around. i guess cause it didnt use the normal windows widgets? and i think when moving the window around it also flickered. and no i dont have a slow system/videocard.
Three simple letters. That's all I wanted. How long must us iTunes whores be slaves to the mp3 format? Maybe the next iTunes release will support it, but I figure that if it's not in QT, it's not gonna be in iTunes.
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I am, unfortunately, too lazy to look for links, but I recall a discussion for a Linux native video player with a Sorenson license. Would this not imply that either Apple's exclusive license expired and they couldn't renew the exclusive part, or they decided to let the Sorenson folks license it despite the agreement?
Anyone out there have Final Cut Pro and installed QT6 (without getting a new key)?
I would like to be able to use the free parts of QT6 (Downloading trailers for one), but still be able to use FCP at full QT5Pro strength. If anyone out there has already done this, please post your experience. Thanks in advance!
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Of course I'd like them to use linux, but they're even unable to fix their windows!
Not any more
Yes, it's time once again for file-format(and codec) roulette. Where you install an update to your media player, and wonder, which files that used to not play will play, and which files that used to play will not (as some obscure alpha codec you downloaded last year gets overwritten by it's broken progeny, or removed altogether by the installer looking to "tidy things up").
I swear, with QT 3.0 I could play ANYTHING. Then with 4.0, a bunch of files just wouldn't play anymore, then with 5.0, a bunch more broke, and pretty much every new file coming out was in some bastardized version of DivX that either didn't work at all or had no audio, or had audio but no video, and I downloaded every codex imaginable, DivX, 3ivX, and every media-cleaner program, converter, translator, set of video tools, and nothing fucking fixed it - and nobody could offer a coherent explanation as to why.
So should I install QT 6 - and watch another round of the player helplessly trying to download codecs that aren't there, never were there, and never will be there, while the player shows a white screen? Or should I go back to QT 3.0, where I can simply watch everything. (except the DivX crap).
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In MacOS X videolan (videolan.org) had a problem with QT 6 Preview. Does anyone know if the problem persists with the real version of QT 6 or should I stay with QT 5?
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ME is much less stable then 98se.
I should clarify....
By saying that I boot ME every few months means that I only use ME every few months. My P233 with ME dual boots FreeBSD. I can't get > 2 hours of uptime out of ME, but I'm usually beating the crap out of it and running it on slow hardware. It's everything bad about 98 with some beta stuff from XP. Scenario: I needed a Windoze box for infrequent use. Win95 won't support USB. Win98 has issues with my NIC. ME conquers both, and gives me the benefit of the best games of the three. Win2K or XP? Too bulky to run on my box.
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I can't get Quicktime 5 to stop playing mp3's in Mozilla. The weird thing is its disabled in the MIME types, yet it still insists on playing them rather than allowing the browser to ask me what to do.
Zoot!
He must mean that he dual boots, and only uses windows every few months.
Huh? I just ran the installer and when doing the MIME extensions to choose which file types for QuickTime to handle, by default it only wants to handle .mov, .pict and other Mac-specific formats. .avi, .mpg, .mp3, etc. etc. it doesn't want to handle unless you specifically set it to.
So what exactly are you talking about?
Yet Another Media Player.
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I already have one, I just need codecs.
I aint installing QT just to view quicktime format. Give me a codec and my current player will play it fine
Same for Real Media.
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Actually, they did fix the more glaring issues. The volume's a slider, the video controls are more obvious, the sound controls (when active) no longer use a drawer, and Apple has given up on the icon-based favorites interface.
Keep up.
Those who complain about affect & effect on
Nevermind, I solved this by going to Edit->Preferences->Navigator->Helper Applications->Reset
Zoot!
Yeah, but it's a good start.
This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
In other words, why isn't MPEG the industry standard for video playback?
I'm looking to dump Windows Media Player once and for all -- I'll accept whatever version ships with Windows 2000, but I've grown wear of having to worry about EULA updates and security holes in my friggin' video player, of all things. That being said, are there any known evil features in Quicktime 6? Things that Apple has built into it that will affect the way I work, without exception? DRM is the obvious example of this, but any addition info would be welcome...........
But I never thought the quicktime format was all that good anyway....what is SOO hard about making a Linux port if they want the format to be more popular?
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I just bought the unlock license for QT 5 Pro a few weeks ago. I just called a friendly Apple sales rep and asked if there were any opportunities to get a discount on the QT 6 unlock, or a refund on the QT 5 license. She indicated that there were no such opportunities, but that I should check back later. If anyone finds different, let us know.
No, no, no. This is not a sig.
Quicktime Broadcaster has also been released:
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http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/broadca
When I tried to download the Dutch Windows version of QuickTime 6, I got a QuickTime 5 installer.
Ho hum. Still no Ogg Vorbis support.
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Ok, but keep in mind the story.
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After all, a story was posted about a great program that doesn't run on the most popular OS around here. I wouldn't expect a run on the bank for that one
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They give back changes to GCC (PPC and AltiVec optimizations, etc), they've open-sourced the kernel (Darwin), they've open-sourced NetInfo (Open Directory), and they're contributing to ZeroConf (called "Rendezvous" in Jaguar).
They also open-sourced QuickTime Streaming Server (aka Darwin Streaming Server), which allows you to stream any media format recognized by QuickTime. Since it's a streaming server, not a player, it can (and does) run on Linux: There is a pre-compiled binary for RedHat 7.1, in addition to the source.
Apple gives back plenty to the Open Source community.
And yes, I'm quite sure that Apple uses GCC to build OS X. I know that their documentation for building the kernel uses GCC. And Mac OS X kernel extensions are created in Project Builder, which has GCC as the backend.
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The cnet article on the QT6 release also mentions that the MPEG group will be releasing new MPEG4 licensing terms. The main change is that free mpeg4 streams will not be charged. This is great news!
On a related note - I've been trying to figure out how to set up mplayer as the "helper application" for .avi's and .mov's and so on in Konqueror, and the more I try, the stupider I feel.
The "substitution codes" for the command lines aren't well documented (e.g. "%U" for "URL" and "%f" for local file...what are the rest?) and I can't seem to avoid getting "can't find a plugin for ." (no typo - that's what the error box says)...
Playing "by hand" from the command line works fine, I just get lazy occasionally and want to be able to "just click on it and watch it..."...
Anyone got any good pointers to information about setting this kind of thing up?
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Great, another proprietary version of another proprietary set of codecs. What the hell is Apple thinking? Proprietary standards are no way to increase control of a market dominated by M$. If they would base QuickTime entirely on open standards, they might just have a chance at doing their part in weening people away from their competitors. Oh wait a minute. Linux is one of their competitors. Nevermind. (Or they could what's right and become a hardware ONLY company--seeing as how that's the only thing they're really good at.) But that would actually make sense.
Any other non-unix'd mac geeks lurking (and willing to out themselves) having similar troubles?
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Apple released on the same day MPEG-LA announced licensing fees for MPEG-4 Visual, Systems and MPEG-J patents. Details here.
Windows 2000 works well on low-Mhz machines too, you know: I have a Pentium Pro 200 with 256Meg RAM running it just fine. It's all about the memory, so add some (it's cheap) and get rid of ME.
I wouldn't even dare to run XP on my biggest machine which is a P-III 800Mhz with 786Meg RAM. It feels even sluggish on the Athlon 1.6GHz PC a friend of mine showed me (granted, only had 256Meg RAM..still wonder how such a CPU can be sold with so few RAM)
Before I get flamed to death for promoting Microsoft OSes, note that most computers I talk about are for family use and I would get lynched if suddenly my siblings cannot play their favourite games anymore. Only 4 out of 7 computers here run Windows 2000, so I think that's not a bad ratio. (Plus, I'm working on changing to Debian on the P-III)
Besides, what weird NIC makes problems with 98SE? Did you try to download the latest drivers from the manufacturer. Always works for me. Or give it a try at driverguide (Username: drivers, Password: all)
As you see, it's just a matter of choosing the right OS for the right hardware. Hey, a few months ago I installed Windows 95 OSR2 on a old P90 with 24Meg RAM...that's okay for the old lady that just want to email her grandkids and play a bridge game.
I only know one person that runs Windows ME, and she complains all the time about her computer. I already told her I would reinstall her machine with something decent, but she doesn't want to hear about it. Her loss.
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Actually, quicktime seems to work quite well on linux via, for example, mplayer, with the sole exception that I've run into of SVQ3 (Sorenson, of course). SVQ1 is even working now, with optimized code (also appearing in FFMPEG) based on the reverse engineering done by the folks working on Xine. Oddly enough, the specifications page for QT6 mentiones SVQ2 and SVQ3, but implies that it DOESN'T support SVQ1...
If the release of QT6 means that MPEG4 will become the "default" codec for QuickTime movies as time goes on (as some posts, As well as several of the QuickTime pages at Apple, are hinting), the "quicktime barrier" to video on linux will all but disappear, since as far as I can tell just about every variant of MPEG4 works on Linux in some form or another. I suppose this depends on how the dispute between Apple and Sorenson goes...(anybody heard anything about that lately?) and how long it takes someone to work out how to interpret the type of what I assume are "pointer files" or something of the sort on the previously mentioned apple Quicktime Mpeg4 page (mplayer seems to have trouble decoding them...)
Of course, somewhere in here I should insert the obligatory comment about Ogg Theora and how I wish they'd hurry up and get the mailing lists working and get a working prototype that I can test, but as I can't think of what to say, I won't....
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"Besides playing MPEG-4 and MP3 content, QuickTime supports timecode tracks as well as MIDI standards such as the Roland Sound Canvas and GS format extensions. QuickTime also supports key standards for web streaming, including HTTP, RTP and RTSP. Plus, QuickTime supports every major file format for images, including JPEG, BMP, PICT, PNG and GIF. QuickTime also features built-in support for digital video, including the DV camcorder formats, as well as support for AVI, AVR, MPEG-1, H.263 and OpenDML."
But if you drop twenty MP3 files on a quicktime window, it opens twentty instances of the player, instead of queueing them up to be played.
That is insane.
Has no one said to Apple that they have to have a PLAYLIST EDITOR with Quicktime?
Amazingly, you can use a playlist made by another application with Quicktime, but it cannot make and organize them itself. And that pathetic "favorites" thing is just that; a pathetic thing.
When you open the file dialog, you cannot select more than one file at a time to be played. And when you do open one, it opens in another instance by default.
And for all of that boasting about being able to open 200 file formats, saying file> presents you with "new player" or "open movie". When you open a file, movie or not, it opens in a new player (by default), so the "open new player" is.
For all this, Quicktime sounds better than Freeamp and Winamp to my ears; I would use it all the time if it had a sensible playlist. Yes yes I know "Go get OSX / Itunes". It's on my list.
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I have Windows ME on one of my computers. It runs nicely, never crashes (none yet, and its been over 1 year), and doesn't chuck any spack attacks that i've seen. Its definitely better then 98se.
Think nothing is impossible? Try slamming a revolving door.
I'm definitely not upgrading to QT 6 Pro, since I just got QT 5 Pro before the announcement of 6 Pro.
Thanks to MPEG4IP MPEG-4 streaming capabilities, from an encoded MPEG-4 file (it has a converter, that can take XviD encoded AVIs and output .mp4), or live Video4Linux encoding. If only they could get rid of the patenting issues completely...
actually I have the highest respect for Microsoft over ME- *any* company that can release a huge beta test like that in public and get away with it deserve some credit!
yeah it was a stinking pile of poo, but it did spawn some semi-decent features in XP
"...and on the seventh day we wrapped." JMS 4:22 May 5, 1997
I guess your mileage may very, but in my experience, as a LAN tech, ME was horrid, and much less stable than 98. Of course, this doesn't take into account whatever OEM software may have been installed, and its ME-compliance/optimization.
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... heard of editing video on their computer, specially digital video. Duh!
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Don't forget that the standalone installer for QT 6 is at:d alone
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/stan
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Gee tops... I just downloaded it (WinXP) and still found:
.mov file... I make MPEGs or Divx... :)
* It still puts an icon on the desktop and quicklaunch bar without asking
* It now puts a system tray icon also without asking, did it use to do that?
* It still always starts up with the damn 'Register now' dialog. Don't they make enough money via making it one of the standards out there and virtually forcing any company serious about video on the web to purchase QTPro in order to create compatible video? (I have no problem with that as a way of making money, I completely agree that if you're creating content for the web using their system, then, yup, pay for it, their prices are reasonable... but surely I shouldn't be bugged about the fact that this product exists when I have no desire to ever create a
* Still can't play fullscreen unless you pay for it
* I still don't see why it's so damn loved... as cludgy as the interface of WMP is, at least I can easily create playlists by dragging my files into the player, can always play fullscreen and I don't have to put up with any 'register now' pretty please' dialogues.
Of course I _have_ to have QT on my system if I want to watch all the latest movie trailers in nice quality, but their software isn't nice, it's intrusive, and I don't like that.
(Of course it has nothing on Realplayer... man I dislike that!)
(does anyone actually use Windows Me?).
Came on my laptop, a ToeCheezba Satellite, runs tolerably well, and is absolutely not worth the aggravation to upgrade.
I'd sooner invest in a dot com than try to install my RH7.2 distro on here.
Since you asked.
Get thee glass eyes, and, like a scurvy politician, seem to see things thou dost not.--King Lear
*Finally* an industry standard for streaming. This means the end of the Sorenson codec that has caused so many aches to Linux users.
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Real and Apple have commited to MPEG-4, the specification is open and there is no implementation fee (only a fee for non-free streams, ie free streams are not charged!)
http://news.com.com/2100-1023-943990.html?tag=f
This means that the new LOTR trailer and all future trailers can be viewed w/o proprietary codecs. Now all we need is for someone to deliver a MPEG-4 codec for Linux. I would help writing one, but I have no prior video experience.
We need to rally behind MPEG-4 and bring it to our platform. Else we'll see Microsoft stealing the market with a DRM based proprietary WMP codecs!!
Is there anyone working on MPEG-4 codecs for Linux besides these guys ?
Windows 95OSR2 will run USB if you apply the USB supplement. I can't seem to find it anywhere on the web, but it is on some Win95 CD's in the usbsup folder (though I think they have to read "with USB support" on the disc.
As for Windows 98, if you are not using 98SE I would seriously try that. There was a lot of work on the driver subsystem under 98SE (though mostly WDM support), and it might fix your problem. Most of the people I know who use Windows on the lower end use 98SE and have no problems.2K and XP will also run on lower end CPUs (166Mhz and higher I think), but you need a lot of RAM to run them at a proper speed. The minimum amount of RAM supported by 2K is 32MB, but it runs really badly. If you have 64MB of RAM or more you should be fine. Under XP, you also can go 'Control Panels->System->Advanced->Settings (under the Performance groupbox) and choose 'Adjust for Best Performance'. This will turn off most of the visual effects and not use the theme service.
I hope this helps. Personally, I find Me too bloated and the crippled DOS makes it just unusable for many tasks.
The clash of honour calls, to stand when others fall.
Breakfast served all day!
iMovie kept crashing on me randomly, though I think it was tied to certain plugins, not sure. The game Black and White wouldn't even start up at all with QT6 Public Preview.
After rolling back to Quicktime 5 I was a happy camper again.
Gah, and no Mpeg2 support still. Everyone knows all the good pr0n is mpeg2. ;)
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This may be a dumb question (because since I run Linux and I own an old fashioned TV, and I love to go to movies in old fashioned multiplex's I have never really been into online video.) But if I were to run into some movie files online..and it wasn't advertised what codecs they required (or what version of what codec), how would I determine what codec (or what version of said codec) I needed to be able to partake of the wonder in front of me? It has always seemed pretty confusing to me. At least with audio if the extension is .mp3 I could be confident that 99% of players that advertised themselves as mp3 players would do the trick.
(+1 Funny) only if I laugh out loud.
Because some of us cherish what limited memory we have?
QT plays some avi but DivX is something different for DivX download DivX Doctor 2 and 3ivx Delta 4, Preview Release 1. To install Delta 4 click on the script and it will automatic install the code for you. Cellulo is a good movie player I use it mostly for play lists for hundreds of split movie files. For DivX that DivX Doctor can't play which are few I use MPlayerOSX. This is all you need no more no less? id=148 51&db=mac
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http://doctor.3ivx.com/download.html
http://www.3ivx.com/download/macos_4_pr1.html
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If you use VLC to read .avi's and sundry .mpg's, don't upgrade to QT6! Especially if you are on a G3! QT6 hoses this program so badly it will only just barely work in "Thousands" color-mode on a G4. It is useless on a G3.
You have been warned.
I have a box (P3-500/768mb RAM) whose sole mission in life is to test stuff. It's had WinME on it for almost 2 years. Out of the box ME was a mess -- couldn't do anything without a crash. But!! I turned off Restore, I ran 98Lite in default mode, and I forced a DOS boot via the MFD patch. (And I make a point of quitting and restarting if I accidentally run the "new" help engine, because it WILL cause a crash, usually about 15 minutes later.) Since being beaten into submission, WinME has not crashed ONCE, even tho it's also the test box for hordes of ill-behaved applications of every description. (Tho WinME still has terrible resource management, which limits multitasking to no more than two apps, and it slows down to unusable after about 4 hours of real work, apparently due to piss-poor swapfile management. Gotta try it with the swapfile disabled, like I run Win98 on an identical system.)
... and the biggest reason of all: I install ZERO M$ software other than Windows itself. M$'s own apps are Windows' worst enemy. (Did you know that OfficeXP overrides WinXP's system DLL protection??)
.. um, CNet, I think. (Over 30% negatives, mostly from clueful people who reported problems in great detail.) So... I'm looking for an alternative to QT (preferably free) that can play these newfangled AVIs that insist they need QT5. Any suggestions?
But... *none* of my WinBoxen crash
Now, that said... I also don't install stuff that gets such horrible user reviews as QT5 did over on
~REZ~ #43301. Who'd fake being me anyway?
You mean like Linux? Like OSX?
(Cool your jets, I use all three at some point during the day).
To celebrate the occasion of my 1000th post, I will post no more forever on Slashdot. Goodbye.
I wonder if history will remember that it was Apple (part of the patent group) that fought the proposal to charge a fee to the end user for every second of every stream viewed? And won.
Thank-you Apple. Really.
Apple is now allowing downloads without entering an email address. They explicitly set the email address field off in a seperate box from the OS choice. The "Download" button is centered below both of them and can clearly be used with the email field empty. And the email field is under the heading "Subscribe to Newsletters". Very nice. How's that for privacy ? The two subscriptions checkboxes are even off by default.
The EULA is standard boilerplate for Apple. It has all their usual media, disclaimer of warranty and tranfer of license clauses (You are permitted to sell your used Apple software). They also disclaim any responsibility for third-party websites. Lastly, they note that the MPEG-2 components are licensed solely for consumer use and not for " ENCODING VIDEO INFORMATION FOR PACKAGED MEDIA" (whatever packaged media really means), and then gives contact info for MPEG LA, LLC for other licensing arrangements (no URL). The Pro EULA may differ.
Not bad. It says absolutely nothing about user created content. Since the free version doesn't allow much creation, the Pro version may again have a different license.
Text of EULA follows.
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Well my father uses Win Me and he knows the difference between it and Win 2000 and he has known since the day he bought his PIII 733. He also has a serious dislike for it, but he showns no inclination to install XP or 2000. He is the kind of person who was worried about how adding a CD-RW drive would affect the stability of his computer only to hook it up as the slave drive on the same chain on his hard drive.
Impersonating Tycho from Penny Arcade since before there was a PA.
MOD THAT GUY UP:
Informative, underrated.
I was a bit annoyed by QT6 since it couldn't read my DivX files anymore, now it can.
You can't take the sky from me...
Should we boycott QT until then?
Less is more !
> Features include the long-awaited MPEG-4 support, 50+ input/output formats, and plenty of A/V codecs and video effects
How about the long awaiting checkbox that allows you to turn off the stupid "Upgrade to QuickTime Pro?" popup at startup?
For all the QT6 delays Apple caused by refusing to pay MPEG-4 license fees, you'd think they'd include open formats like Ogg Vorbis and VP3 as a bit of a retort. Why'd they exclude them?
I'll bite becasue I'm bored and have nothing better to do.
If we assume that computers have some berring on sexual prefference, and we assume from your above statement that
mac=gay
and
windows=straight
then we can also surmise that
linux= bisexual prostitutes
and
solaris= neutered
Ironicaly, if we take the numbers, and assume that windows does indeed have 90% of the market share, then it is more likely than not that the majority of pedophiles as you described in your post are windows users. Sux to be a windows user.
T Money
World Domination with a plastic spoon since 1984
(does anyone actually use Windows Me?)
I do. The CD makes an exellent coaster to keep those nasty water marks off my desk. AOL disks also work. just be sure to scuff the shiny side to prevent anyone from accidently loading that shit onto a computer.
When all else fails, run.
here. My windows 2k needed to be reinstalled, and it wasn't easy finding the download, so I thought I'd post it.
Set your current year to 2099. Run QuickTime. Watch the uncaught Integer Overflow exception!
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Code / Think / Teach / Learn
h4x0r for
PS
Dont think I'm a fan of Old Bill, I am the admin for about 15 various *nix boxes
ME= Hybrid of Win 98 and 2000 running on FAT32.
Horrible system indeed but kinda interesting. Some parts are windows 2000, some parts are windows 98 (of course,modernised), has System Restore function and more modern Networking code.
Oh, never ever replace your windows 98 with it.
Its supposed to keep a few system files as they were. When some program you install overwrites some .DLL with another version, then PCHealth restores it back to the original. But that kind of a behavior broke at least one of my programs I was using and so I disabled it. The only difference is that Win doesnt access the disk now so often as it use to and my system is a little faster. But your mileges may vary.
There is no "Apple proprietary format". If you are referring to the Apple-exclusive Sorenson-codecs, then yes. It both plays and encodes great quality video (see http://www.apple.com/trailers/ for examples). However, MPEG4 - which is what QT6 is all about - is an industry standard. And it plays great to boot.
"I tend to think of OS X as Linux with QA and Taste", James Gosling, creator of Java
Well, if I were you I'd run out and by a lottery ticket.
ME crashes all the time on my buddies computer, you could get it to do it on command. We finally upgraded it to XP and it doesn't crash.... as often (now and then it likes to just stop responding, and it seems to delete a couple DLLs every little while).
But like my dad always says, if your machine isn't crashing, you're not working hard enough.
sin(6cos(r)+5A)
Windows 95OSR2 will run USB if you apply the USB supplement.
USB support in 95C is shoddy at best. Yes, it has the USB supplement, and SOMETIMES it works. In my case, it doesn't.
As for Windows 98, if you are not using 98SE I would seriously try that
Most people don't acknowledge a version of 98 prior to SE. I sure don't.
2K and XP will also run on lower end CPUs (166Mhz and higher I think)
Unless you want to *DO* something, yes.
There is no reasonable defense against an idiot with an agenda
:wq
The quicktime architecture was taken as a basis for the MPEG-4 standard so any MP4 players that are out there are, in a sense, quicktime players under a different name. As voracious users of wannabe imitation software linux users should be used to that.
You can still get it here
Lose the die_spammer_die for email
It's also a nice change from the "here, download this 500K program that then connects to an Apple server and downloads the other 20MB at the slowest speed possible" approach to distributing Quicktime.
Disk images are definitely the way to go.
Gotta agree about the disk image. Nice to be able to have it on hand for archive, too.
This is my post. There are many others like it. If you don't like what you read here, go try one of the others.
The other plus is that I have my downloads go to a folder in my home directory, rather than the Desktop to keep things clean, but then I can mount the disk image and it's easily accessible on the Desktop, without having to open a Finder window to get at it.
I recently bought a laptop with winXP (now running Debian Sid) and, while toying a bit with it I thought about the fact that Windows ME is the only major Windows version I have never ever used since Windows 3.1 (or 3.11). I don't even think that I saw any screenshot of it (unless it looks like w98 and I didn't know it was ME). If I didn't read /. I probably wouldn't know that it does exist at all. That felt weird to me (of course, it probably says more about myself than about [windows] ME).
"The obvious mathematical breakthrough would be development of an easy way to factor large prime numbers." Bill Gates,
MPEG-2 available here as a separate install and charge. Why it's extra I dunno, but it is in fact available.
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