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Extra Scenes in FotR Special Edition DVD
gdr writes "Lights Out Entertainment have an article on the extra scenes that will be in the Fellowship of the Ring special edition DVD. It will be nice to have the relationship between elves and dwarves fleshed out a bit. I'm not sure the final battle scene really needs to be any longer." There are quite a few bits mentioned for the extra 30
minutes of footage that I'm looking forward to seeing. Just be careful to
buy the November 12 release and not the august release if you want the extra
mojo. I'll be waiting.
He knows I won't be able to resist the lure of the August release, particularly when I see the display in the window of Sam Goody. Although I want to be strong, want to wait for the November release, we all know it's not going to happen. I'm going to buy both. And I'll hate myself for it.
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I heard the battlescene that was supposed to be extended was the battle with Sauron at the beginning. I heard it was to be, not only elongated, but a lot more gory, giving the movie an "R" rating.
This is just heresay, though.
Good quote, too many chars. Seriously, the slashdot 120 char limit sucks!
Except most movies don't weigh in at around 3 hours in their post-cut form.
For those devoted Tolkien fans that want to see a more faithful recreation of the book on-screen, these additional scenes will help out (to an extent).
Those who aren't fans of the book should be perfectly happy with the August release.
Still, no Tom Bombadil. *sigh*
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I'm holding out for the 24-Disc box set of the trilogy when they release it in 2007. $395 might sound like a lot of money, but it will probably take a month to watch it all, so that's a lot of entertainment! I'm looking forward to the full 10-hour commentary tracks by each member of the Fellowship, Bilbo, Gollum, Mojo Jojo, Liv Tyler, Natalie Portman, the director, the producer, and the key grip. Wooooooooo!
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I was extremely glad they cut out the Tom Bombadil scenes from the book. It was the most boring and meaningless section of the entire trilogy and it would have died on screen. Seeing the hobbits get sucked in by the trees would be neat, but I can live without that.
I think I'll rent Fellowship when it comes out in August and then buy it in November. It's a great movie and one of the best book to movie adaptations I've ever seen.
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> It will be nice to have the relationship between elves and dwarves fleshed out a bit.
d00d! I don't think that's the kind of cut scenes they're talking about!
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Except that a "faithful recreation of the book on-screen" would have to be around 7 years long, if you include the parts where Frodo is just waiting around getting older while Bilbo is off getting Elf nookie.
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I just can't wait for the protest rallies against the Two Towers!
You mean Rename "The Two Towers" to Something Less Offensive Petition
I preordered them both. But it's ok, I can quit anytime.
It may take only one ring to rule them all, but it takes four disks to watch it.
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EXCLUSIVE: Fellowship Of The Ring Special Edition DVD pictures & info! Find out what's in that extra 30 minutes!!!
Sunday, July 7, 2002 2:37AM PDT - by Brian
We've got some exclusive pictures and information on what will be included on the special extended 4-disc edition of Lord Of The Rings: The Fellowship Of The Ring DVD hitting store shelves November 12th!
Here's what we found out from our friends at Newline:
On November 12th, 2002 Lord Of The Rings: The Fellowship Of The Ring will be released as a 4-disc special extended edition DVD which will integrate approximately 30 minutes of extra footage never-before seen, into the original theatrical release. Check out some exclusive info we found about about what's being included:
What can viewers expect from the 3 and a half hour immersion into Middle Earth??? WE'VE GOT THE ANSWERS!!! Here's what's to be expected...check out the stills!!! (Click to enlarge)
Galadriel's Gif-Giving Scene. As the elves prepare to leave Lothlorien, Elf Queen Galadriel bestows a special gift upon each of the nine members of the Fellowship.
Bilbo Baggins writing a journal entry entitled "Concerning Hobbits," which serves as a history of the Hobbits and their bucolic lifestyle.
A new introduction of loyal Hobbit Sam Gamgee.
More footage from the Green Dragon Inn, with Peregrin "Pippin" Took, and Meriadoc "Merry" Brandybuck happily singing Hobbit songs.
Sam & Frodo witnessing the stately Exodus of the Elves on the road to Bree.
Aragorn singing an Elvish ballad that adds back story to the implications of his love for Arwen
Aragorn beside his mother's grave in Rivendell.
An extended sequence of the Fellowship's departure from Rivendell.
Pre-battle scenes in the Mines Of Moria, explaining how the dwarves came to be in the mines.
Character material delving into the complicated relationship between elves and dwarves.
Additional footage from the Fellowship's climatic battle scene.
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Composer Howard Shore has returned with his Academy Award winning score and recorded 50 minutes of new music with the London Philharmonic for the special extended edition set!
Weta Digital has returned and contributed all new effects shots for the deleted scenes.
In addition to the 3 and a half hour feature, presented on 2 discs, the set will include 2 MORE discs packed with features not on the August release of the disc! This is includes production team commentaries, production documentaries, & interactive featurettes covering the film adaptation from "book to vision" and "from vision to reality"!
Am I the only one who thinks they could have spent
2 more minutes talking about the 'Sword Of Elendil'? They show the sword in the preface cutting the hand of Sauron, and then they show Boromir doing his 'Still Sharp(e)' shtick. I think a quick scene with Elrond presenting the re-forged sword 'Anduril' to Aragorn would have been a worthy plot addition ('The sword that was broken goes to war'). To me, its part of the 'Aragorn claims his birthright' story within the story.
"We were half way to Rivendell when the drugs began to take hold."
-- Hunter S. Tolkien
Fortuitous that they call themselves "LightsOut Entertainment" only to suffer from a good slashdotting after posting a LOTR article.
I've read reports that state that the extras found on the first (2-disc) release will not be available on the second (4-disc) release, and vice versa. Hell, the 4-disc version won't even contain the theatrical version of the movie, but (from what I've read) the 30-minute extended version only. So I'm planning on buying both anyway.
For those of you who see this as purely a money grab, it's not. Look at the other options New Line had:
New Line did their best to give its customers a choice and opportunity to get what they want.
AJS
You mean Rename "The Two Towers" to Something Less Offensive Petition
This petition is stupid... because it doesn't go far enough. Just the numbers 2, 9, or 11 are enough to remind me of the WTC tragedy. It is offensive to use those numbers in any context ever, unless you are solemnly remembering victims of terrorism. And don't even get me started on the "T" word - bad news!
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I'll ignore any implication that the screen adaptation of Lord of the Rings is a significant piece of cultural art - the book, no arguments, the movie .. its an adaptation, but I'd have a hard time calling it a movie with depth.
But, thats just my opinion, so I realize its irrelevant.
I'm not talking about paying money to see the movie - I'm talking about buying redundant materials. You're (well, whoever will buy both DVDs) not encouraging them to go out and adapt another classic - you're encouraging them to milk you. Which is fine, they can try - I'm just perplexed by those that ask for it, and then lament their weakness. It's encouraging exploitation of people's cultural needs, not a development or innovation of that culture.
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I'm really looking forward to the addition of the footage they shot of Steven Tyler and Aerosmith as the elf Gildor and his companions moving into the West....
I believe the scene was cut due to Tyler's complaining that in the end, it was "just too Zeppelin" for them.
Rumors also of a Gildor-singing-to-a-weeping-Arwen number ala the Armageddon music video... Wow, I mean I could barely control myself the first time, how am I supposed to even begin to do so now? Gonna make sure I've got plenty of tissues for that one...
Peter Jackson. bless you...
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For the people complaining about Tom Bombadil, he wasn't really NEEDED in a movie version. The enigma of Tom is that he represented the *reader*. He was a safety net of sorts for the reader, a character of goodness who could remained unharmed by the evils in Middle-earth, even from Sauron et al.
Here is a great analysis of Tom
"I would say that 99 per cent of what my father has written about his own life is false." - L. Ron Hubbard Jr.
Actually, you mean the parts where Frodo is waiting around not getting any older...<pedant>
I can't wait for hordes of Elvis fans to protest against the title of, "Return of the King," or will the be in the theatres apoplectic when they find that the king who returned *wasn't* Elvis.
Or since there have been any number of treatises examining Lord of the Rings for Christian elements and Nuclear warnings, etc... How about evidence that JRRT could see the future and named the book accordingly?
The living have better things to do than to continue hating the dead.
For those of you who want to be "franchise sluts" but don't want to pay twice, go take a Kia for a test drive and get the theatrical copy for free!
KIA Partners With The Lord Of The Rings
"Individuals who test-drive the new Kia Sorento or any Kia model between August and October, 2002 will receive by mail a free copy of the "The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring" home video or DVD courtesy of Kia."
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Doesn't this imply that the full "collection" will be at least 12 DVDs? . . . Is this set going to retail around $200 or so?
The Extended Edition can be pre-ordered on Amazon for $25.99. So I assume that you'll be able to get four disc sets of each film of th trilogy for a total just under $80.
Of course, if you really, really must have every edition available, you could get the Gift Set version of each film, plus a likely compendium complete trilogy gift pack edition, which at around $60 each for each film and maybe $100 plus for the trilogy could set you back over $300, but I expect there is a lot of repeated footage included and the only possible reason to buy all of them is for collecting and not actual viewing. For example the only additional footage available in the FotR gift set is on the National Geographic DVD which can be bought seperately for $21.49 the additional $11.50 cost is for figurines and gift cards. And since the National Geographic disc is in full screen format, I don't think it is for cinemaphiles. Just lots of pics of New Zealand.
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I will be purchasing both versions of the movie, if for no other reason than I want to see the version of Fellowship that I saw in the theater.
While I am glad there will be some extra footage and other good stuff added to the November disc, I have been disappointed by "special editions" in the past. The Phantom Menace DVD, for instance (save your wisecracks), adds a lot of footage that I don't care for -- and there's no way to see the version I saw in the theater, save watching it on VHS (which I shouldn't have to do after shelling out the cash I did for the DVD).
Similarly, the Aliens Special Edition adds a lot of footage that's cool, but I feel it mars the pacing of the film and isn't necessary -- but there's no option to get rid of it and watch the film in its original form. (Unlike, for example, the Terminator 2 Ultimate Edition, which has an option to watch both versions.)
I have very fond memories of watching Fellowship in the theater, and while I am excited about the prospect of new footage, I don't really know what it's going to entail or how good it's going to be. And I want to be able to recreate the theater experience if I want to -- so I will be purchasing both, just in case.
If it turns out I have no use for the first DVD after November, I can always give it away or sell it on the cheap. It's less than the cost of one evening dining out. No big deal.
I'll be buying all 12 edition that will eventually be released...
1. FotR standard issue (Aug 02)
2. FotR Deluxe issue (Dec 02)
3. FotR/TT standard issue (Aug 03)
4. FotR/TT Deluxe Box set (Dec 03)
5. 3DVD standard issue box set (Aug 04)
6. 6DVD Deluxe box set (Dec 04)
7. 8DVD Super Deluxe Box Anniversary edition with poster of Arwen in sexy pose (best seller). (Aug 05)
8. 10DVD Super Duper Deluxe Box Post Anniversary Christmas edition with plush Frodo and Sam as Santa and helper elf edition (other PC holiday editions available) (Dec 06)
9. The Hobbit DVD release (Aug 07)
10. The Whole Sebang (9&10) Platinum boxed edition with cloth map of Middle Earth. (Dec 07)
11. The Whole Sebang on the new Holographic Cellular media discs (they're right around the corner, right?) with special talking Gandalf christmas tree ornament (other PC friendly designs available)(Dec 08)
12. The Whole Shebang 20th Anniversary edition including new digitally created interview with Tolkien in holographic simulation and Arwen Poster reprint.(Aug 21)
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I'm debating on putting off buying EITHER of the upcoming releases. I can't help but believe that once all three movies have come out that there will be the "Complete Lord Of The Rings Boxed Set" with all the stuff you'll already have plus 2-4 dics of never-before-seen footage and extras and such, along with a collector's box, 100-page booklet, etc, etc... making any earlier purchases a waste of my money.
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Believe me, I'd love to. But Tom Bombadil isn't explainable; that's why he wasn't in the movie. JRRT's invention of Tom was either brilliant in its creation of a truly multidimensional character which the book only hinted at, or it was just crazy :-).
You really, really have to read the book -- and it really helps to think about it, too, to see how little Tom fits into the bigger picture of the world.
In the long run, Tom with all his mysterious power and limitations is critical to the meaning of the book. Not everything is explained; Tom is one of the things that aren't.
So I'm sorry, I can't. There may be enlightenment to be had, but it has to be gained the hard way.
-Billy
Jackson has reportedly altered the Anduril plotline in order to extend the "Aragorn's birthright' subplot more evenly through the films. From what I've seen in various rumor reports, Narsil will be reforged in TTT or RoTK, most likely at Arwen's insistence. This plot change would provide a plausible reason for Arwen's character to appear in the second movie if it happens in TTT (some of the brief scenes in the TTT trailer seem to reinforce this). My guess is that it will be delivered to him before the battle of Helm's Deep. A group of Elves from Lorien take part (and sacrifice their lives) in the battle. I would hazard another guess that they're the ones who deliver Anduril to Aragorn, possibly replacing the sons of Elrond and the Rangers who arrive after the battle in the book.
According to IMDB, the original cut "ran four hours and thirty minutes." If this is truely the case, I'd like to get my hands on all of that extra footage and see what else we missed. Sure would be nice if Tom Bombadil was in there somewhere.
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How about, for those who've read the book and decided that Old Man Willow and Bombadil were both best left unshot?
Tolkien started writing a children's book to follow The Hobbit and changed his focus towards the end of the first book (well, 1/4 of the way through the single book, as he was planning it) and it really shows.
The first part was silly, and not in a good way. Remember the dwarf names in tH? Bifur, Bofur, Bombur, Dori, Nori, Ori, etc? Silly rhyming intended for children.
The first part of LotR was this way, with all the hobbit lineage and the sillyness of the party, of Bombadil, and so on.
At least the movie avoided this. They let events be funny without anything be ridiculous, which detracts from the overall feeling of seriousness the quest deserves.
Actually, Tolkien himself states that Bombadil was the name of a toy of his children, that he put in the book for a cameo because he thought they'd like it, not because it helped the story. (He later said that he thought the mystery of Bombadil helped the world, but only in context of someone who had read the Silmarilion as well.)
Yep, seriously - do it! As the guy above says, you bought the damned film, so why should you have to watch 5 minutes of adverts for other products EVERY single time you want to use it? What other product does this? Could you image buying a CD and having to listen to ads before the first track would play, or using a laptop that played videos advertising other products by the same PC maker before booting?
I simply return it stating the DVD prevents me from using my DVD player properly when it's inserted in the machine. The software is effectively causing it to behave abnormally, playing content I do not wish to see and preventing me from operating the device according to the instruction manual.
The last one I remember was "Series 7, the Contenders" (I think), which had a whole bunch of adverts at the start. I rented this, and took it back to the store (after watching it of course) demanding a refund. There was only one guy serving and a few people behind me. First off he claimed there was nothing wrong with it, so I asked him to try it himself so he stuck it into the player in the shop. After 3 or 4 minutes of pressing the menu button and having the "Access denied" icon display while the queue grew (angrier) behind me he admitted he couldn't play the film and I got a free rental for the night!
Code, Hardware, stuff like that.
Right now, Amazon is offering the first one at $17.97, the second at $25.99. So you can buy either one at a very reasonable price, or all six disks for $44.00.
Let me repeat that for all of you whiners who didn't understand it:
You can buy all six disks, including two full cuts, for only $44.00.
Damn, do I feel ripped off. Especially when the six-disk set of 'The Godfather', "remastered" for the umpteenth time, is $75. Or the single, no-specials, no-restoration DVS of 'Harold and Maude' is $25.50.
Get a clue. Jackson et. al. had to make a decision as to how to package it. They made their decision. As far as I can tell, they decided that they would not force folks to buy duplicate material if they wanted everything, and kept it all *very very cheap*. Looks to me like a damned fine choice.
And if you don't like it, don't buy it.
I don't know anything about Tolkien's life or what he intended while writing the books, but you are definitely correct that the focus and style changes drastically somewhere between Rivendell and Lorien. I always interpreted this as the changing perceptions of the hobbits as they become more aware of the world outside the Shire: the comfortable imagery gives way to something darker as the quest progresses. In this context you can see Tom Bombadil as the hobbits' first exposure to someone outside the world of hobbits; maybe Tom isn't as weird as he seems, maybe the hobbits just see him that way. Anyway, I think the relatively easy introduction serves the books well; if the books began with the middle chapters of The Two Towers, far fewer people would ever successfully launch a trip through them.
-Graham
Blame the Vikings! JRR didn't make the names up - he took names from Norse mythology (here's a list from http://sunnyway.com/runes/gods.html - see who else turns up in there!)
Nyi, Nidi, Nordri, Sudri, Austri, Vestri, Althiolf ("Mighty Thief"), Dvalin, Nar, Nain, Niping, Dain, Bifur, Bofur, Nori, Ori, Onar, Oin, Modvitnir ("Mead-Wolf"), Vig, Gandalf ("Magic Elf"), Vindalf ("Wind Elf"), Thorin, Fili, Kili, Fundin, Vali, Thror, Throin, Thekk, Lit, Vitr, Nyr, Nyrad, Rekk, Radsvinn ("Swift in Counsel"), Draupnir, Dolgthvari, Hor, Hugstari, Hlediolf, Gloin, Dori, Duf, Andvari, Heptifili, Har, Siar, Skirpir, Virpir, Skafinn, Ai, Alf, Ingi, Eikinskialdi ("Oak Shield"), Fal, Frosti, Finn, Ginnar.
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