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Apple Releases Disc Recording Update 1.0

micah_lanier writes "From Software Update: The Disc Recording Update delivers additional iTunes and Finder support for a number of LaCie, EZquest, and Iomega CD-R devices. For a specific list of supported devices, visit the Apple CD-R Compatibility site."

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  1. My Lunix Experience by poopbot by poopbot · · Score: -1

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    I've been using home computers since the VIC-20 and I've come to dread and fear the possibility of being forced to adopt Linux as a result of Microsoft's heavy-handedness. After being hyped by friends and co-workers about the pleasures of this great and fantastic open-source operating system, I attempted to load Linux, not once but four times on three year old PC that was previously running Win98.

    The first time took me about an hour to realize that I had to reformat the hard disk and wipe out years worth of work (after backing it up on CD-R). Then I had to figure that the only way to get the Linux CD to actually start loading was to boot it from the CD by modifying the CMOS settings as the PC was starting up. A simple line suggesting this that could have been printed on the CD would have saved a lot of time!

    After loading a whole gigabyte of stuff onto the empty hard drive (do I really need to load 50 megabytes of TeX fonts when I'm just trying to get a demo of Linux????), the entire process halted when the floppy disk drive didn't respond. The Linux loader demanded a working floppy backup of some obscure file be made and since I've never used the floppy drive, I didn't know that it didn't work. The installation process locked up and I had to reboot.

    The reboot left me in UNIX hell: a black screen half filled with incomprehensible characters with a single flashing dollar sign as the only indication that the entire PC was still working. No matter what I typed or tried (simple intutitve commands like 'help' 'review' 'exit' 'restore' 'dir' 'What the fuck is happening?') nothing made any intelligent response except for returning me to the flashing dollar sign. Shit! I'm in Dante's seventh circle of hell for misers. I was forced to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Windows in order to confirm that I still had a working PC.

    I bought a new floppy drive that I will never use in order to load this wonderful and fantastic operating system. Reformated the hard drive, reset the CMOS, and loaded a whole gig of worthless junk from the penguin CD. Everything loaded and I made all of the selections for keyboard and mouse ect... The system rebooted and got to the point where it should have started to work and simply stopped. No response to mouse, keypress, or anything. I reloaded Windows (it worked perfectly) and decided to load Linux on my new good computer.

    I ended up back bashed back in UNIX hell and having to load Windows and ALL of my programs and files from CD backups, which took hours. I convinced that Linux is some kind of really bad joke or else an 'emperor's new clothes' type of mass hallucination. How can anyone with a pretension of being a computer professional seriously believe or claim that this junk is ready to take on Windows?

    - posted by poopbot: who doesn't like scat?

    PocAHHiVoG Post #599

  2. fp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    fp

  3. Software update has it, no reboot required by tm2b · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's also available via software update panel in the preferences application.

    Surprisingly, it does not require a reboot.

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    "It is our blasphemy which has made us great, and will sustain us, and which the gods secretly admire in us." - Zelazny
    1. Re:Software update has it, no reboot required by ProfKyne · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but does it require 10.1.5 or can i upgrade while still in 10.1.4 ? I'm avoiding 10.1.5 b/c of reported problems with DHCP.

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      "First you gotta do the truffle shuffle."
    2. Re:Software update has it, no reboot required by dthable · · Score: 1

      Problems with DHCP? Do you have a link? I've been trying to figure out why my laptop has problems recieving IP and DNS information at times. Might be the cause of my problems....

    3. Re:Software update has it, no reboot required by ProfKyne · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, no. I think it was on MacFixit. They post their news for a little while and then it becomes subscriber-only, and I'm not a subscriber. But I still haven't upgraded to 10.1.5 yet because of the problems... google around I'm sure there's more info out there.

      Sorry

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      "First you gotta do the truffle shuffle."
  4. Oops! Reboot required! by tm2b · · Score: 5, Informative

    I was wrong, rebooting is required - for whatever reason, I wasn't warned that a reboot would be required before I installed the patch.

    Whatever...

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    "It is our blasphemy which has made us great, and will sustain us, and which the gods secretly admire in us." - Zelazny
  5. no scsi by onShore_Jake · · Score: 1

    Interestingly, the compatibility page lists exactly zero scsi drives. Why do they wish to be like that. Im guessing they are being lay to the z here.

    1. Re:no scsi by pi+radians · · Score: 2

      I'm using a LaCie SCSI burner, with zero problems. Infact, it doesn't work under OS9 without Toast, but under OS X it performs flawlessly.

      I don't know how or why, but it works great for me.

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      sin(6cos(r)+5A)
    2. Re:no scsi by Lev13than · · Score: 1

      I have full support with my Yamaha 8424SZ (or whatever the letters are). It's a stock PC version that "just works" in 10.1.5. Very nice integration.

      A good source for scsi compatibility is: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/scsi_.html

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      When you have nothing left to burn you must set yourself on fire
    3. Re:no scsi by ek_adam · · Score: 1

      My SCSI Smart & Friendly Turbowriter CD-RW works for data CD burning in the Finder, but is not recognized by iTunes.

  6. Why don't you just get a REAL operating system... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    ...instead of screwing around trying to get your CDRW drives to work?

    Those drives have worked perfectly for years in Windows.

    What amazes me is that you actually pay more for this crap!

  7. Letter to Apple from a queer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait
    Dear Apple,

    I ama homosexual. I boughtan Apple computer because of its well earned reputation for being "the" gay computer. Since I have become an Apple owner, I have been exposed to a whole new world of gay friends. It is really a pleasure to meet and compute with other homos such as myself. I plan on using my new Apple computer as a way to entice and recruit young schoolboys into the homosexual lifestyle; it would be so helpful if you could produce more software which would appeal to young boys. Thanks in advance.

    with much gayness,

    Father Randy "Pudge" O'Day, S.J.

    1. Re:Letter to Apple from a queer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      Dear Bill Gates,

      I am as normal as they come. Don't worry about me. Just tell me how much and when I pay. I love you.

      PS I'm not gay!

  8. Re:Why don't you just get a REAL operating system. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    What amazes me is that you actually thank your sister for that pathetic fumbling around that you call a handjob.

  9. Re:Oops! Reboot required! by IAmATuringMachine! · · Score: 3, Informative

    Rebooting is required to load the drivers into kernel space. Say you have an unsupported drive - to save memory and not cause trouble burning is disabled in finder, etc. We want to detect our newly supported drive and then we can enable such things - could probably do it on the fly, but it's always good to reboot if one's ego can handle it.

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    "Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes."
    -E. W. Dijkstra
  10. Whats amazing to me is by Photar · · Score: 0, Troll

    that there are only 10 comments. aparently nobody cares.

    How many slashdotters use macs? of those how many use OS X? of those how many have cd burners? Of those how many have incompatable ones?

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    He who knows not and knows he knows not is a wise man. He who knows not and knows not he knows not is a fool.
    1. Re:Whats amazing to me is by dthable · · Score: 4, Informative

      I don't really think there's much to comment on. When I purchased my CD-RW, I printed out the compatability page and brought it shopping. If it wasn't on the list, I didn't even consider it. I'd bet most Mac users follow this pattern and thus, not a lot of unsupported hardware in the field.

      Besides, what could be more exciting for end users than device drivers?

    2. Re:Whats amazing to me is by amichalo · · Score: 1

      When I purchased my CD-RW, I printed out the compatability page and brought it shopping. If it wasn't on the list, I didn't even consider it.

      My shopping experience was a bit different. While I too carried the shopping list with me, I found that the fastest drives were not on the list. I then contacted an Apple Store where they were helpful in letting me know what would be on the upcomming CDR update for OS X.

      By using this method, I was able to buy a fast drive that was unsupported in OS X, usable in OS 9, but knew it would be soon available to OS X as well.

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      I only came here to do two things; kick some ass, and drink some beer...looks like we're almost out of beer.
    3. Re:Whats amazing to me is by dthable · · Score: 1

      ...I then contacted an Apple Store where they were helpful...

      To live in an area with an Apple store would be bliss. <Sigh>

    4. Re:Whats amazing to me is by raddan · · Score: 1
      I actually discovered that an alledgedly incompatible USB CD-R worked just fine once I took it out of the external chassis and replaced the ATAPI CD-ROM that was in my case.

      This prompted me to buy a refurbished Matsushita DVD/CD-R/CD-RW for $50 which I tried the very same trick with, and it works beautifully. Apparently there was an issue with the USB bridge, but not the actual burner mechanism itself.

    5. Re:Whats amazing to me is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't need to live in the area to call them...

    6. Re:Whats amazing to me is by mbbac · · Score: 1

      My HP CD Writer isn't supported. I bought it before I bought my Mac. But, the reason I bought it is because I thought it would be supported. It's USB and it boasts Bondi iMac styling, so I thought it was obvious HP was marketing it to the Mac market.

      I'm doing what you did from now on.

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      mbbac

  11. Re:Oops! Reboot required! by Juanvaldes · · Score: 2, Informative

    I wasn't warned that a reboot would be required before I installed the patch.
    Did for me, I think you just glossed over it...

  12. Gotta Luv SU by ScumBiker · · Score: 2

    I really like Software Update. It just plain works. I'm installing the Disc recording Update as I write this, I can't wait to see if it will finally allow me to burn iso's I get from various places, not just Mac specific iso's. I can't seem to burn FreeBSD iso's using desktop software (DiskCopy), is there anything in Fink I can install into X that allows for full-featured burning on a SuperDrive? I haven't looked yet (yep, I'm a lazy bastard).

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    1. Re:Gotta Luv SU by phillyclaude · · Score: 1

      SU is great! it can install SO much without bogging down the system. if you have ever used WindowsUpdate, you will know what i mean. it basically monopolizes the *whole* system

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      A computer without a Microsoft operating system is like a dog without bricks tied to its head
    2. Re:Gotta Luv SU by Hadlock · · Score: 2

      i managed to burn a (bootable) PC iso of mandrake linux using disk copy. no problem. you may want to try with another iso.

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      moox. for a new generation.
  13. Neo Jukebox support? by ClaraBow · · Score: 1

    Does anyone know if there is any planned support for
    Neo Jukebox on OS X. Even a generic usb-ide driver would d0, if possible.

    1. Re:Neo Jukebox support? by Lao-Tzu · · Score: 1

      There is a driver for USB mass storage devices which is already part of the operating system. It is /System/Library/Extensions/IOUSBMassStorageClass.k ext, labelled com.apple.iokit.IOUSBMassStorageClass. It should work with your Neo Jukebox the same as it should work with my Neo 25, but the USB chipset in the Neos is flawed. I was able to get it to work in Linux once upon a time by modifying the USB mass storage driver to ignore some of it's integrity checks... I wonder if the Apple driver could be similarly modified. Hm... IOUSBMassStorageClass oughta be part of the open source darwin... hm...

  14. Re:Oops! Reboot required! by mach_5 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Not at my Mac at the moment. But normally when a reboot is required a little blue icon of the Apple power key is shown next to the update, denoting that installation requires a reboot.

  15. But will they charge for it?!?!?!?!?!!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    posted by apple lied yesterday:

    Q: Will the new for-pay .Mac service be more reliable?
    A: No.
    Q: Will there be a phone number to call for technical support?
    A: No.
    Q: Will there be an e-mail address to report outages?
    A: No.
    Q: Will there, in fact, be any support at all?
    A: No.
    Q: Will the 100MB of storage come with an increased bandwidth limit for web sites?
    A: No.
    Q: Will you be telling us what the bandwidth limits are?
    A: No.
    Q: Will you support CGI, PHP, SSI, SQL, servlets, JSP, WebObjects applications, or anything else beyond regular static HTML files?
    A: No.
    Q: Will I be able to get access to my web logs? Or any other realtime webspace access statistics?
    A: No.
    Q: What about backup--our files are safe if we back them up to iDisk, right?
    A: No. Apple does not guarantee the integrity of any files on iDisk, even if placed there by the Apple Backup software.
    Q: Well, we can at least use the Backup software to back up our computers to CD-R, right?
    A: No, not if you have any files bigger than 650MB.
    Q: What about using my external tape drive, DVD drive or Firewire hard drive?
    A: No, Backup only works with Apple-supplied internal drives. And only if you're a .mac member.
    Q: So the backup software doesn't back up from my local hard disk to my local CD burner, unless I have a .Mac membership and an active net connection?
    A: Correct.
    Q: OK. The service also includes anti-virus software. Are there any Mac OS X viruses at all?
    A: No.
    Q: If I don't use Microsoft Office, do I need to worry about macro viruses?
    A: No.
    Q: Umm... OK. So how much for this invaluable service?
    A: $99 for one year. Plus tax. In advance.
    Q: Can I get two accounts, for me and my wife?
    A: Sure, that'll be $198 plus tax. In advance.
    Q: No, I mean can I get a second account at a discount because I've already bought one?
    A: Oh, alright then, quit whining. You can get a second account for $10 a year if you buy one full account.
    Q: And it'll have the backup, anti-virus, and web functionality?
    A: No, only an e-mail address.
    Q: Ah... but at least it'll be a full e-mail account, right?
    A: No, you'll only get 5MB of space. But that's nearly enough to hold five days' spam.
    Q: Can't my two accounts just share the same space for a nominal extra fee?
    A: No.
    Q: Is there a satisfaction guarantee?
    A: Yes. Apple reserves the right to terminate your access to the online services and the software, without cause, without notice and without refunding your money, if it's not satisfied with your behavior.
    Q: What kinds of things am I not allowed to post on my web site?
    A: Anything "lewd" or "vulgar", anything "embarrassing" to anyone, or anything that counts as advertising for any product or service.
    Q: So you want $99 a year for an e-mail address, useless backup software, anti-virus software I could buy for $50, and web space limited to inoffensive pictures of fluffy kittens? $99 even if I only want to keep the "lifetime e-mail address" that you previously said was free just for buying a Mac?
    A: Yes. Pay up now, in three weeks we'll delete your files and bounce your mail.
    Q: I have one more question... What exactly are you smoking out there in Cupertino?
    A: We think it's crack. Think different.

  16. And in other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    ...Apple has announced that future iTunes updates will cost $29.95 each and will work only if you have a paid .Mac subscription.

  17. Re:Oops! Reboot required! by Slur · · Score: 2

    Any time an update is displayed with a left-pointing-triangle-in-a-circle next to it it requires a reboot.

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    -- thinkyhead software and media
  18. Nice... by henele · · Score: 1

    Now, instead of pulling a freeze then a dirty great kernel panic, iTunes recognizes my Lacie USB CD-RW (weirdly, after turning it on, then off then back on again :/ ).

    The cool thing is the update works transparently with Titanium, where as with OS 9 the two sets of drivers would often screw around with each other.

    These two points together with lots of other little things (uummmm, flurry...)make me steadily more comfortable with the whole X thang. peace.

  19. must we be informed of these? by chump+daddy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I mean, who doesn't regularly check software update manually anyway?? but maybe I'm mental because I'm used to looking after loads of big servers and I check for security updates daily. what would be good would be a discussion of what has changed. I use Toast - will this update affect me?

    1. Re:must we be informed of these? by henele · · Score: 1

      Like I said in my previous post, and this could be totally unfounded :), but I *think* iTunes and Toast sort of 'share' driver resources, this recorder update meant my burner now works with both programs.

      Now, the problem is, if that isn't so and it screws something up I don't have a clue how to remove it :) Back in the 9 days it would be a simple hunt-the-extension game but that stuff has just got a wee bit harder :)

      peace

    2. Re:must we be informed of these? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, in OSX, iTunes and Toast live together in harmony. but in OS 9, you had to reboot in different extension sets (either with the iTunes or Toast extensions disabled) to use one or the other. Classic OSs didn't like running Toast if Apple's Disc Burner extensions were enabled; Toast won't even recognize the drive. (Damn, I love progress).