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Adam Bresson Demonstrates Fair Use at DefCon
nigelc writes: "Adam Bresson showed how to make copies of copyright-protected videos in a speech at DefCon. To quote the article, 'I hope he's got a lawyer and that they talked to somebody'" From the article, it sounds like Bresson simply used a video conversion box to defeat MacroVision -- something my notorious criminal father has been doing for years.
From the article:
Now Canopus has offices in the US. I figure that Bresson would probably not be prosecuted, basically cause there's no money involved. However, since Canopus has a branch in the US, I wouldn't be surprised if they were sued.
After all the best way to stop all of us "pirates" is to eliminate the tools we use.
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On some DVD players, you can disable Macrovision by means of uploading a new ROM into the player by burning it onto an ISO 9660 CD-R, or by hitting a secret key combination on the remote. It's mostly APEXes and Daewoos that let you do this; ironic that they are the cheapest yet most hackable DVD players. I have a cute little APEX I scored for $70 at Circuit City... that sucker plays DVDs, VCDs, SVCDs, CD-Rs, MP3s (!), and they kitchen sink. Most DVD players have a "Factory setting" menu that you can get to, but you need to know the secret code. Of course you'd never get goodies like this from the big boys (aka Sony, Toshiba, Panasonic).
It cleans up the signal and incidentally also removes the copy protection. Remember kids, the RIAA says that violating fair use is the fifth horseman of the apocalypse.
So, the MPAA lied about all these things happening if all copys were outlawed and anyone making a copy were not immediately jailed?
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Any RF Modulator strips MacroVision.. Always has Always Will kinda deal... Same boxes he shamed everyone into buying were picked up at RadioShack and Wal-Mart for less than 35$
"Hollowpoints: When you care enough to send the very best."
Why spend $200 on a box to make a copy of a DVD, when my sub-$100 DVD player will do it for free? Plus, it has no region coding either. Go Apex!
...and we should make sure that all of the copy machines in the MPIAA officies are removed. They're obviously there for copying books anyway; if they want to do that they should have to do it by hand!
(and then we go after the pens)
We really do need a nuclear war to put all this in perspective.
Alas, Babylon.
Today, the father of Timothy of Slashdot fame was arrested when his son finally turned on him with a bold and public statement about his fathers criminal past and present.
:)
Supportors of the DMCA where quoted as saying "We are very happy a public supporter of the DMCA has finally come forward from the slashdot crew movement"
...and gets tried and aquitted in open court.
We very much need a test case with a judgment in favor of consumer rights.
We need a legal case to which we can point, when we're arguing what our rights really are...
Personally, I've used one of those anti-macrovision boxes (I got mine for $50) and it works great. I didn't create the technology, and I've only used it in the privacy of my own home, excercising my 'fair use' rights as a consumer, so I should probably be safe.
The methodical corporate destruction of consumer rights must be stopped.
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I was at Best Buy a few days ago and found a device into which you plug any two audio/visual devices, and which stated that it would "even out erratic signal levels, enabling the VCR to get a clean image again."
It is a MacroVision-defeating hardware device, prepackaged, for $50 or so.
I was actually a bit astounded that someone hadn't come and stomped on the balls of this company.
For my money, though, it's VideoLan Client or nothing.
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Has there ever been an industry which has survived solely on the basis of legislation?
The recording and software industries suddenly find themselves without the natural protections of severely limited bandwidth or formats which discourage copying. As such, their business models (which have only really existed for the last few decades) seem dangerously out of date, especially on the music side. Video games and movies are still somewhat protected by large size, but with the proliferation of available bandwidth this seems only like a matter-of-time issue (although non-console video games and other computer software have some other outlets, the effectiveness of those recourses is also open to question).
So, it appears that their only tool to perpetuate their current business model will be legislation like the DMCA. Can anyone think of an industry where this survival-by-lawyers tactic has worked for more than a few years? Or are they destined to slide out of business as they know it?
Of course, we live in a historically litagous time where the law and lawyers have more power than ever, so maybe part prescindent isn't relevant. It seems entirely possible to me that they could stave off any sort of mass-advancement just be completely crushing those who oppose them (am I going to risk any real threat of a massive fine just to copy a few CD tracks?).
If the RIAA had owned the buggy industry in 1900, I think we'd all still be whipping our horses to get to work in the morning.
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god that is so stupid. With the lack of any TRUE infringments on freedom (see Revolutionary War) todays generation has nothing better to do than whine about companies not including vcd support as evidence that the US is not free. WHAT BULL.
Don't buy their DVD player, how about that? no one's making you. You can buy one that supports playing vcd, they exist! Hell, you could even start your own company to supply such a product, because demand is clearly high, you could become rich by doing this too! Rich and in the moral highground, way to go !! Or you could start a petition, again, because vcd is so overwhelmingly popular. Or you could do the lazy crap thing to do--whine about it on slashdot.
Since the copyright laws specify you're paying for the CONTENT not the MEDIUM it is stored on, it makes perfect sense to ensure the content you've paid for will remain in your posession even if the storage medium fails for some reason.
You get another bag at the grocery store if the first bag rips on the way out, right? Or would you leave the groceries on the sidewalk? Of course not. You've already paid for them.
Now imagine if the store told you you'd have to pay for the groceries again in order to get a new bag.
Same thing as when a record store asks you to pay full price for a replacement cd.
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No, but if you get a scratch on your car, you can get it fixed without buying a whole new car.
Of course, the analogy is ridiculously flawed -- you can't easily compare 1s and 0s to large, resource and labor intensive objects like cars.
However, pretend the auto industry made money by designing cars and then licensing the right to build a single car based on that design (selling, of course, to people who have complete assembly lines in their sheds). People would use their own equipment to create the car based on the data provided.
If I wreck my car, shouldn't I be able to go build another? I bought a license for one Ford Focus, so as long as I'm not cranking out Foci for my whole family, I'm not taking any money out of the hands of Ford or it's designers. All I'm doing is reusing the data to create another instance of the product I've already licensed for my personal use.
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I would think a tape with macrovision means the manufacturer doesn't want you to copy their tape.
You want to copy it for backup purposes.
I think I see 3 problems here...
I think before any DMCA type stuff is added to any kind of media, the media producer needs to be held accountable for replacement. I've never seen this happen however as most of them simply tell you "Return this to your place of purchase"
Problem is, the place of purchase has no easy way of RMA'ing defective merchandise.
Wait a minute!
*light bulb*
I think I see an easy solution to all this. When you purchase something you should be able to anonymously register your product online (HINT HINT!) When it goes bad, you go online, login, report it bad and get a POPRMA# (place of purchase return merchandise authorization #)You take your bad merchandise back to the store with your POPRMA and the store validates the POPRMA and destroys the media.
Now that the media producer has a valid POPRMA, they just mail you a new tape.
Unfortunately, reality is record companies (major labels) are all bloodsucking thirsty vultures that would eat your grandparents. They would soon as rather write off the sale with no recourse than be held accountable for it.
Despite all the good the internet can do, greed, jealosy, and evil are still a part of the human collective. Despite how easy of an idea this may be to implement, these negative instincts are rooted in the core of many peoples brain. You get a lot of money, you want a lot more. Bob has big nose, you want one bigger.
So until mother terasa is running the Media moguls, we're all fucked.
If the original is a computer program, right. If the original is a video tape, wrong. From USC, Title 17, Chapter 1: Nothing in there about backup copies.
From Section 117: So the privilege of making backup copies only applies to computer programs (and possibly rare printed material in certain circumstances) but not videos, CDs, DVDs, etc. It would appear that you and Timothy are both mistaken.
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Both TVs in my houses are aging units that only take input from an AV cable. I need to either use an old VCR that can withstand that cheap protection crap, or what I'm using now, a 5-switch RF modulator/SVideo/RCA plug box.
Fsck that protection crap. If I didn't think it was futile, I'd never by DVDs out of protest....
I'll be waiting with my/your .45
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