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Internet-enabled Robot to Mow Lawns

prostoalex writes "Researchers at Massey University in New Zealand built a lawnmower operated via the Internet. The device currently needs physical boundaries of the lawn, but later this year it will be able to navigate. Here's the page of Glenn Bright, the researcher quoted in the article, unfortunately, the links to the research group and list of projects appear to be broken."

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  1. Would be nice to hack one of these.. by Antity · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just imagine:

    • Go west
    • Go west
    • Go north
    • Mow monster
    • Go north
    • Examine roses
    • Mow roses
    • Go east
    • Look innocent.
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    1. Re: Would be nice to hack one of these.. by Loligo · · Score: 2

      >>Are you mowing the yard or playing Zork?

      >This is an IP capable mower, after all. :-)

      Ooh. So it's a MUD. Gotcha.

      -l

    2. Re:Would be nice to hack one of these.. by Dark+Lord+Seth · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sounds like a MUD. Imagine someone accidently logging on to it and thinking it's a MUD...

      Go east.
      Go south.
      Go west.
      Kill dog.
      Skin corpse.

    3. Re:Would be nice to hack one of these.. by Sabalon · · Score: 2
      Ah...but it works at night as well, so...

      • Go west
        It is dark and you are in danger of being eaten by a grue.
  2. Why in New Zealand? by GuyMannDude · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why do they need an autonomous grass-cutting machine in NZ? Can't you just tie a sheep to a pole in the center of your yard and have him eat the grass for you?

    GMD

    1. Re:Why in New Zealand? by Stonehand · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Perhaps they're busy being sheared by another robot?

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    2. Re:Why in New Zealand? by rediguana · · Score: 4, Funny

      Can't you just tie a sheep to a pole in the center of your yard and have him eat the grass for you?

      Cause sheep have a habit of shitting on the lawn :) Oh, and tied to a pole, your sheep would be easy pickings for any passing Australian, especially that Crocodile Hunter bloke...

    3. Re:Why in New Zealand? by Loligo · · Score: 4, Funny

      >Oh, and tied to a pole, your sheep would be easy
      >pickings for any passing Australian, especially
      >that Crocodile Hunter bloke...

      "Crikey! Now he's REALLY pissed off! I won't be using my thumb this time, though..."

    4. Re:Why in New Zealand? by Frank+of+Earth · · Score: 2

      I would think it would only work if your backyard was in the shape of a circle though

    5. Re:Why in New Zealand? by rediguana · · Score: 2

      You do, of course, realise that Australia and New Zealand are two different countries? Two completely separate places, man.

      Doesn't the .nz in my email address give it away? :) As a Kiwi living in Washington, DC who has many friends in Australia, and has been back and forwards across the Tasman at least 10 times in the past 3 years, I've got a reasonable understanding of our countries place in the world. And from what I've seen, I know that Australians like our sheep better, because we treat them nicely!

    6. Re:Why in New Zealand? by NanoGator · · Score: 2

      "Why do they need an autonomous grass-cutting machine in NZ? Can't you just tie a sheep to a pole in the center of your yard and have him eat the grass for you?"

      Must...resist...propagating..NZ....stereotype... .

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    7. Re:Why in New Zealand? by Nyarly · · Score: 2, Funny

      Because sheep don't have a length setting. Your options are "no roots" or "haven't eaten that yet." Beastly creatures. All the intelligence of a turkey. Tastier though...

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  3. Powered by MS? by usurper_ii · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can't wait to see the virus that makes it mow down all the people in my address book!

  4. The last thing a true geek needs... by BgJonson79 · · Score: 3, Funny

    is a machine to mow the lawn. For the love of God... it's the only exercise I get!

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  5. We Kiwis don't need lawn mowers.... by kinko · · Score: 2

    ... what do you think we have all those sheep for?

    (You Aussies are not allowed to answer this question!).

  6. Real Racers by jukal · · Score: 2
    Why don't you have a look at my Real Racer's insanity as well. Remore (as in REMOTE) controlled cars. Here's an introduction.

    Do you think we have reached the climax of reality in gaming? Well, you were wrong so read on. This article contains cooking intructions for games that mix physical reality, virtual world and interaction using techniques and devices available of-the-shelf.

    1. Re:Real Racers by jukal · · Score: 2
      > I don't like to be told what to do. I will not look at your "real racer." Instead, I will mix physical reality, virtual world, and interaction by taking powerful hallucinogens

      Isn't it great to live in a free country ;)

    2. Re:Real Racers by jukal · · Score: 2

      Well, you misunderstood most parts of the parody. It must be because of my bad english. I am too lazy to explain now, and it's not probably even worth it.

  7. this is also old... by edrugtrader · · Score: 2

    so old in fact there there are commercial products available already that DO navigate on their own.

    and other than the slashdot 'contect everything to the internet' mentality, WHY do i need my lawnmower hooked up to the internet?

    if you say something like 'to get blade spin data and average grass length' or something idiotic like that, well you could just USB enable it, and download the data when you were finished. a 'mowbot' should not be required to be controlled.

    another stupid /. story...

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    1. Re:this is also old... by geekoid · · Score: 2

      because you can't walm and can't afford someone else to do it.
      because you are out of town for a month.
      because you ahve mower on each green and you don't want to pay people to mow them
      because you want to be able to over-ride a lawn-mower that navigate on there own.

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    2. Re:this is also old... by Restil · · Score: 2

      From what I recall, the internet capabilities reside mostly on the ability to start and stop the mower, at which point it's a random wander around and mow everything within set boundaries. Even if it were scriptkiddied, the most you could do is turn it on at unscheduled time, unless more precise control was available. Other than the internet based option, lawn mowers that do exactly this are available as consumer products.

      As for the mentality that all toasters should be online, it seems silly, and I can agree to some point, even though my website is devoted to this very activity. The internet is simply an additional medium through which you can control your appliances. And while 99.99% of the time, you're going to turn your oven on and off while standing in front of it, there could be times you wish you could turn it off while you were away. Forget to close your garage? Forget to set the VCR to record something? Front door locked? Want to give the AC a 15 minute head start? None of these features are REQUIRED, but they add benefits to our lives, sometimes in unexpected ways. To deny the possible because it serves no immediate useful purpose, will fail to inspire someone else to take some halfbaked idea and turn it into the next remarkable invention that we can't live without.

      You don't need YOUR lawn mower on the internet. And right now, neither does anyone else. But there will always be those that will find it beneficial, and someday you may directly or indirectly reap the benefits as well.

      -Restil

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    3. Re:this is also old... by edrugtrader · · Score: 3, Insightful

      sorry to do this and seem arguementative:
      2 of your reasons are based on money... if you can afford a mowbot, you can afford *$5* to some neighborhood kid that will use his own lawnmower and gas... (wear and tear on your mowbot would probably be equal, plus you would have to put the money up front just to HAVE it!)

      so money as a reason: NO.

      next: navigation.
      if you want to control your lawmower, PUSH IT. if you want a radio control lawnmower, those are available. the reason to have this mowbot is unattended mowing.

      so navigation as a reason: NO.

      now the vacation one is interesting... yes you are gone for a month, and being able to go to mymower.com and send it out would be nice. downside: you would have to leave it out in your yard with a power source (battery) that will probably die by month end. also because after you say "MOW MY LAWN" it has to be outside or able to get outside to mow it and go around your yard. what i'm getting at: someone is going to steal your lawnmower. solution: GPS TRACKING! now we have a $2,000 lawnmower that is going to get stole, that needs to be manually overridden to work right, just so we can save $5 and help a hard working kid make a few bucks.

      friend, you are a moron.

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  8. Imagine that... by ryanvm · · Score: 5, Funny

    unfortunately, the links to the research group and list of projects appear to be broken.

    Yeah, apparently something cut the fiber line to their ISP.

  9. New Zealand University develops Slashdot defense by digital_freedom · · Score: 2

    Researchers at Massey University in New Zealand unveiled a new defense against Denial of Service (DoS) attacks. Popuar tech website, Slashdot is a well known attacker to many small sites. The defense employs a technique known as broken links to prevent such attacks. The groups plans to patent the technique and license the technology to several security firms.

  10. LawnSpam by kmahan · · Score: 2, Funny

    Next thing spammers will be sending spam to the Mowbot -- which will reciprocate by mowing the spam message into the lawn. The neighbors will be all over my case for the 6' (obnonus: 2m) letters spelling out porn sites and make money fast scams.

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    Invalid Checksum. Retrying.
  11. Robot Lawn Mowers by Star+Stealing+Girl · · Score: 2

    This really isn't a new thing - the sharper image has been selling robot lawn mowers for a few years now. Just say the words "robot" and "internet" in the same sentence, and suddenly it becomes a slashdot article. . .

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  12. Well, if the editors were impressed with THAT ... by Hayzeus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...surely they'd be even more impressed with this . I mean, geez -- is the mowbot thing really news?

  13. Join the opposition by Subcarrier · · Score: 3, Funny

    I hear there's a strong grass roots movement against it.

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    "I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them." -- George H. W. Bush
  14. I'm going to pass on the mower by Target+Drone · · Score: 4, Funny
    From the article: The mower was developed in collaboration with lawnmower and chainsaw company Husqvarna

    I'm going to wait for the remotely operated chainsaw.

  15. Been around a long time. by Caine · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hmm, the family which we traditionally celebrate midsummer eve with have had one of these for ages (at least 5 years). As far as I know it wasn't internet connected though, but could navigate their yard without problems, cutting the grass suitably as it went (and they have a big yard with lots of trees). They do live near Huskvarna, Småland in Sweden though (where the mower in the article was manufactured) so it's possible it was some kind of prototype they've gotten their hands on.

    1. Re:Been around a long time. by Hast · · Score: 2

      I was thinking about this too. Since I've seen those before. But I think this is a new model.

      The old one didn't use a camera, it had one of those "electric fenses" you dig down. Put it a few inches into the ground and the mower detects it when it gets close.

      Those were on all the time though. And were solar powered. (They were programmed to stop if it rained and such though. And could "go home" to recharge if needed.)

      They have some stuff on their page about it in Swedish and in English. (The Swedish version contains more info, and a flash demo to boot.)

      Last I saw they were developing a vacuum cleaner as well. Well, there are working prototypes, but I haven't heard of any available for purchase.

  16. been ther done that. by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    robot lawnmowers have been around for at LEAST 20 years. I made one back in the 80's from a series in Byte magazine using a KIM-1 as the brain.

    or a simple search on google gives hundreds of ready to buy models... Like this one here

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    1. Re:been ther done that. by Lumpy · · Score: 2

      http://www.friendlymachines.com/ is the link that was supposed to be in that post....

      Gotta love how slashcode will butcher things... although I guess I shoulda pressed preview

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  17. Re:Sad by geekoid · · Score: 2

    so your saying people withpout legs are lazy for not getting out and pushing there lawn mower themselves?
    how about greens keepers?
    instead of looking for a reason to complain, perhaps you should try to put some thought into the why question first.
    I know people who are very physical, but they hate mowing there lawn.

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  18. Re:Sad by Subcarrier · · Score: 2

    Look, all you need is a wheel barrow, 50 pounds of ballast, some optics, a couple of Bluetooth modules or wireless LAN cards, a few other odds and ends, and you can hack together a bloody big mouse that you can push around your basement. Much cooler, geekier, and totally free of insectoid interference.

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    "I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them." -- George H. W. Bush
  19. Great thing. by El+Camino+SS · · Score: 2

    So when you order the mower to get her lawn ornaments that you have hated for so long, you can throw your hands up and say "well, I loved that little windmill too, but honey, ITS THESE DARN HACKERS."

  20. Re:Sad by Anonymous+Cow+herd · · Score: 4, Funny

    You know, there are a lot of starving children in Africa who would be benefited by much less effort than what went into this device that will lead to many premature deaths through sloth and gluttony.

    What an excellent idea! I'll replace my robotic internet-enabled lawnmower with starving kids from Africa! Any lawn clippings they don't eat, they can send home to their families.

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  21. I can see this from here by stere0 · · Score: 2

    % date
    Sun Aug 18 09:46:36 CEST 2002
    % ping -f -s 65000 lawnmower.in.neighbor.net
    ............^C

    Wow!

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  22. Mow-bot... TRANSFORM!! by Mulletproof · · Score: 2

    Besides the coolness of an autonomous lawnbot, BOY, WHEN CAN WE INSTALL LINUX ON ONE OF THESE?! Yeah, it's a troll and I'm lovin' every minute of it :)

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  23. Good Troll! by El+Camino+SS · · Score: 2


    I particularly liked the Fortune 500 part.

    Insulting Linux, of course, is standard.

  24. theft by Casca · · Score: 2

    I wonder what security devices they will use on the things. It would kind of suck to have someone stop by and toss your $3000 dollar lawn mower in their trunk, and drive off, while you watch helplessly from the Internet.

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  25. Insert Obligatory 'Lawnmower Man' Reference Here by guttentag · · Score: 3, Funny
    August 16, 2003 - Internet-Enabled Lawnmower Man becomes self aware

    August 17, 2003 - has sex with unsuspecting client. Dissatisfaction with the incident leads to the creation of a companion: Internet-Enabled Chainsaw Woman

    August 18, 2003 - The Ambiguously-Lawnmowing-Chainsawing Duo begin a massive telemarketing scheme to take over the world

  26. www.automower.com by QuantumRiff · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is the sight for the lawnmower, however, it does not mention connections to the internet. Perhaps it is the base model that the university modified?

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  27. Karel the Robot by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 2

    Couldn't they get Karel the Robot to do this?

    OK, he would have to do something with his beepers, and he is physically challenged (what with his inability to turn left), but still!

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  28. The "Sad" Dilemma by lildogie · · Score: 2

    Pasty basement Linux hackers?

    "I'm a top programmer at a Fortune 500 Company and write open source software in my spare time...I cherish mowing my lawn"

    "Growing Problem of Obesity in America"

    "Starving Children in Africa"

    "Even Theo DeRaadt..."

    *** The real dilemma ***: should this me modded up as "Funny" or modded down as "Troll"???

  29. Prior art.. by gatekeep · · Score: 2

    I remember reading about this in one of those airling expense toys catalogs. There's a similar thing that works a little differently. You bury a cable around the edges of your lawn, and around trees/shrubs/non-mowed areas. Put this thing out there and it does it's business, turning whenever it encounters the underground cable. At $500 it's not all that much more expensive than a decent mower already is.
    It's not internet enabled, but is it really all that safe to be mowing remotely anyhow? At least sit in the hammock with a cold brew and make sure it doesn't hit your neighbor's kids or something.

    Here's some links;
    Robomower w/ video of it in action!
    Robomower

  30. Photograph here: by coljac · · Score: 2
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  31. Re:Sad by Xerithane · · Score: 2

    I know people who are very physical, but they hate mowing there lawn.


    I'll second that, and I'm one of them. I prefer to get my physical labor in a gym or training area. Mowing lawns makes my allergies act up severely, and I get to spend the next 24 hours inside waiting to be able to breath and see again.

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  32. Yeah, I already have one of those by miguel_at_menino.com · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah, I already have an internet-connected robot that mows the lawn. It's called a teenager.

  33. Not quite ready for primetime. by chinton · · Score: 2

    unfortunately, the links to the research group and list of projects appear to be broken

    Great, the lawnbot can't even tell the difference between a T1 and grass...

    On a related note, the cheif research assistant was also missing his wallet, dog, and 2 children.

  34. Why? by Rorschach1 · · Score: 3, Funny

    12 million sheep in a country of 3 million people and they still need to cut grass mechanically?

  35. I can't think of a non-flame response by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 2

    So I'm just going to flame: You're a retard.

    If you think mowing the lawn constitutes good physical excersize, you need to get your head screwed on straight. It is perfectly possable, and even fairly common to be someone that likes to get excersize through somehting like riding a bike, walking, going to a club and not want to waste your time on a mundane activity like mowing the lawn which is not good excersize.

    As for your starving children thing, I'll again repeat my first statement: You're a retard. People have a right to work in the field they want. Personally, I work on giving network access to university students. It's my damn choice and I'm not a horrable individual just because I'm not in the peace corp.

    Speaking of which if you care so much how about you quit whining on Slashdot, get off your lazy ass and join the peace corp. Stop whining that other people need to save the world and go save it yourself.

  36. I See Unlimited Opportunities by The+Dobber · · Score: 2, Funny

    (Que booming announcer voice)

    Internet enabled snow blower!!
    Internet enabled dog collar!!
    Internet enabled Popeil Pocket Fisherman!!

    Slapping an X10 camera on something will become the equivalent of "case modding"

  37. But for chrissake... by CrystalFalcon · · Score: 2

    From the article;

    The mower was developed in collaboration with lawnmower and chainsaw company Husqvarna, part of the Sweden-based AB Electrolux home appliance maker.

    The next step is an automatic vacuum cleaner, Bright said.

    Husqvarna has sold a self-propelled, self-navigating autonomous lawnmower for YEARS.

    The automatic vacuum cleaner (also fully autonomous, fully self-navigating) was introduced over a year ago.

    (Linked pages are in Swedish, sorry about that. I did not find an English page at these companies' sites.)

  38. I'm sorry by Nyarly · · Score: 2
    I said to myself "here's another situation where the Slashdot article has missed some crucial detail that make everything clear. Why don't I toddle over to the link and see if I can see why one might want a lawn mower connected to the internet."

    Having done that, I now feel justified in asking WTF is the point of and internet connected lawn mower? Marketing. I'm convinced it's marketing because I can see zero reason that you'd actually want your lawn mower attached to the internet. So that it can order gas refills? So that you can manually start the mower? (Ignorant of the fact that your toddler is playing on the lawn - just out of view of the web-cam that's part of the package.) Or is it really that the mower is just a robot on a timer, with a webcam on your house. For marketing.

    I mean, otherwise, whee, what a fun hack target? What's a better thing to play with over the internet than something that actually moves and cuts things and generally causes mayhem? Simply cannot beat the idea of chasing cats halfway across the world with someone else's robot mower.

    Makes me despair the species, you know?

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  39. From neuromancer... by neo · · Score: 2

    one of these things killed some Turing Police who were chasing Case. Shouldn't we have learned by now?!?

  40. More lawnmower than I need. by Treeluvinhippy · · Score: 2

    When it comes to mowing lawns this is all I and every other self-respecting geek really needs.

    That is unless you have five riding mowers , five friends, one big yard and a shitload of paintballs.

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