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Internet-enabled Robot to Mow Lawns
prostoalex writes "Researchers at Massey University in New Zealand built a lawnmower operated via the Internet. The device currently needs physical boundaries of the lawn, but later this year it will be able to navigate. Here's the page of Glenn Bright, the researcher quoted in the article, unfortunately, the links to the research group and list of projects appear to be broken."
Now I have even more reason to sit in front of my computer.
of The Lawnmower Man?
21 percent faster with Opera?
Until somebody cracks your computer and goes on a rampage mowing down little children..
"I don't know that atheists should be considered citizens, nor should they be considered patriots." George HW Bush
Just imagine:
42. Easy. What is 32 + 8 + 2?
Why do they need an autonomous grass-cutting machine in NZ? Can't you just tie a sheep to a pole in the center of your yard and have him eat the grass for you?
GMD
watch this
I can't wait to see the virus that makes it mow down all the people in my address book!
Ron Paul
Via the internet?!?
Is that a good idea?
One script kiddie, and you could lose a few toes!
Good quote, too many chars. Seriously, the slashdot 120 char limit sucks!
is a machine to mow the lawn. For the love of God... it's the only exercise I get!
There are four boxes used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in that order.
Where do you want to mow today?
... what do you think we have all those sheep for?
(You Aussies are not allowed to answer this question!).
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so old in fact there there are commercial products available already that DO navigate on their own.
/. story...
and other than the slashdot 'contect everything to the internet' mentality, WHY do i need my lawnmower hooked up to the internet?
if you say something like 'to get blade spin data and average grass length' or something idiotic like that, well you could just USB enable it, and download the data when you were finished. a 'mowbot' should not be required to be controlled.
another stupid
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Chalk up another excuse not to mow the lawn. It is currently being DOS'ed...
unfortunately, the links to the research group and list of projects appear to be broken.
Yeah, apparently something cut the fiber line to their ISP.
Researchers at Massey University in New Zealand unveiled a new defense against Denial of Service (DoS) attacks. Popuar tech website, Slashdot is a well known attacker to many small sites. The defense employs a technique known as broken links to prevent such attacks. The groups plans to patent the technique and license the technology to several security firms.
Next thing spammers will be sending spam to the Mowbot -- which will reciprocate by mowing the spam message into the lawn. The neighbors will be all over my case for the 6' (obnonus: 2m) letters spelling out porn sites and make money fast scams.
Invalid Checksum. Retrying.
This really isn't a new thing - the sharper image has been selling robot lawn mowers for a few years now. Just say the words "robot" and "internet" in the same sentence, and suddenly it becomes a slashdot article. . .
All my money went to Nigeria and all I got was this lousy sig. . .
Why don't Kiwis use the resources they have?
...surely they'd be even more impressed with this . I mean, geez -- is the mowbot thing really news?
Roving Web-Teleoperated Robot
Now if only I could get an internet operated kitchen sink so that it could wash my dishes while I was away :)
:D
Or perhaps internet-operated borg assassins with built-in wi-fi
Karma: Ran over your dogma.
It is operated through a web page, according to the article. But what about encryption? Do you want somebody to sniff your password and let your lawn mower go berzerk?
Try to explain this to a lawyer...
Sure. I'm looking forward for the pr0n spam mails for this device...
42. Easy. What is 32 + 8 + 2?
I hear there's a strong grass roots movement against it.
"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them." -- George H. W. Bush
I'm going to wait for the remotely operated chainsaw.
Hmm, the family which we traditionally celebrate midsummer eve with have had one of these for ages (at least 5 years). As far as I know it wasn't internet connected though, but could navigate their yard without problems, cutting the grass suitably as it went (and they have a big yard with lots of trees). They do live near Huskvarna, Småland in Sweden though (where the mower in the article was manufactured) so it's possible it was some kind of prototype they've gotten their hands on.
robot lawnmowers have been around for at LEAST 20 years. I made one back in the 80's from a series in Byte magazine using a KIM-1 as the brain.
or a simple search on google gives hundreds of ready to buy models... Like this one here
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
Internet-enabled Robot to Mow Lawns - becomes addicted to pr0n instead, grass now 3 feet high.
"Good things don't end with eum, they end with mania or teria." - H. Simpson
so your saying people withpout legs are lazy for not getting out and pushing there lawn mower themselves?
how about greens keepers?
instead of looking for a reason to complain, perhaps you should try to put some thought into the why question first.
I know people who are very physical, but they hate mowing there lawn.
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You sound like your trying to convince yourself....
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Look, all you need is a wheel barrow, 50 pounds of ballast, some optics, a couple of Bluetooth modules or wireless LAN cards, a few other odds and ends, and you can hack together a bloody big mouse that you can push around your basement. Much cooler, geekier, and totally free of insectoid interference.
"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them." -- George H. W. Bush
"I bet I'll get blamed for this." --Mayor Quimby
Then it's your prized orchids that are cut and not the grass?
So when you order the mower to get her lawn ornaments that you have hated for so long, you can throw your hands up and say "well, I loved that little windmill too, but honey, ITS THESE DARN HACKERS."
All these ideas are never usable because of power concerns. The science has been there for years but who is going to want a mower that can only mow for 30 minutes before a recharge? How about after two years when the battery is down to 10 minutes? All of these technologies will only become worth while when fuel cells take off. Mow the lawn take, take a drink of hydrogen, chase some children down the street due to "erroneous user commands"
"A good friend will bail you out of jail. A true friend will be sitting next to you saying, 'damn....that was fun!'"
You know, there are a lot of starving children in Africa who would be benefited by much less effort than what went into this device that will lead to many premature deaths through sloth and gluttony.
What an excellent idea! I'll replace my robotic internet-enabled lawnmower with starving kids from Africa! Any lawn clippings they don't eat, they can send home to their families.
Ita erat quando hic adveni.
Wow!
Trollem mirabilem hanc subnotationis exigiutas non caperet
Besides the coolness of an autonomous lawnbot, BOY, WHEN CAN WE INSTALL LINUX ON ONE OF THESE?! Yeah, it's a troll and I'm lovin' every minute of it :)
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Am I the only one who cannot wait till some 12-old c8l h4x0r will make all neighbornhoods lawn mowers to cut HIS grass 5 times a week ?
I particularly liked the Fortune 500 part.
Insulting Linux, of course, is standard.
"Even though I'm a top programmer at a Fortune 500 company and write open source software in my spare time, I cherish mowing my lawn as an excuse to be outside and enjoy the great outdoors."
How many hours are in your day man? I only get 24...
crazy dynamite monkey
I wonder what security devices they will use on the things. It would kind of suck to have someone stop by and toss your $3000 dollar lawn mower in their trunk, and drive off, while you watch helplessly from the Internet.
Casca
You assume most people use push mowers. I see plenty who use riding mowers, getting no cardio benefits and breathing in vast amounts of carbon monoxide from the exhaust. How can you ride your mountain bike if your free time is spent mowing the lawn?
Oh, yeah, it's not easy to pad these out to 120 characters.
I am just waiting for MowZilla! Just don't run beta releases around small children.
August 17, 2003 - has sex with unsuspecting client. Dissatisfaction with the incident leads to the creation of a companion: Internet-Enabled Chainsaw Woman
August 18, 2003 - The Ambiguously-Lawnmowing-Chainsawing Duo begin a massive telemarketing scheme to take over the world
This is the sight for the lawnmower, however, it does not mention connections to the internet. Perhaps it is the base model that the university modified?
What are we going to do tonight Brain?
nice troll though
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WHO ATE MY BREAKFAST PANTS?
Couldn't they get Karel the Robot to do this?
OK, he would have to do something with his beepers, and he is physically challenged (what with his inability to turn left), but still!
Fascism starts when the efficiency of the government becomes more important than the rights of the people.
Pasty basement Linux hackers?
"I'm a top programmer at a Fortune 500 Company and write open source software in my spare time...I cherish mowing my lawn"
"Growing Problem of Obesity in America"
"Starving Children in Africa"
"Even Theo DeRaadt..."
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THIN THE HERD. There's already global overpopulation, why are we trying to save these kids?
Isn't "mowing the lawn" supposed to be a romantic thing? I know if i'm with the GF in the shower and instead of little scissors I bust out RobotBoxMower2002, I can put myself in /dev/null/ for the night.
What if you accidentally run over the CAT5 with your mower!?
I remember reading about this in one of those airling expense toys catalogs. There's a similar thing that works a little differently. You bury a cable around the edges of your lawn, and around trees/shrubs/non-mowed areas. Put this thing out there and it does it's business, turning whenever it encounters the underground cable. At $500 it's not all that much more expensive than a decent mower already is.
It's not internet enabled, but is it really all that safe to be mowing remotely anyhow? At least sit in the hammock with a cold brew and make sure it doesn't hit your neighbor's kids or something.
Here's some links;
Robomower w/ video of it in action!
Robomower
The laser mower would be more efficient than a robot. You place a laser in the middle of your yard and when you flip the switch, it rotates and makes one 360 degree pass and your're done.
BTM
That was the turning point of my life--I went from negative zero to positive zero.
After reading the headline, I scrolled down, glanced at the fortune line which was:
Robot, n.: University administrator.
Now, that I'd like to see. . . "Chancellor, you missed a patch over by the garden!"
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Here's a photograph at the Massey Uni. site.
Everyone knows that damage is done to the soul by bad motion pictures. -Pope Pius XI
I know people who are very physical, but they hate mowing there lawn.
I'll second that, and I'm one of them. I prefer to get my physical labor in a gym or training area. Mowing lawns makes my allergies act up severely, and I get to spend the next 24 hours inside waiting to be able to breath and see again.
Dacels Jewelers can't be trusted.
Clever move that was - Massey University is in New Zealand, but they sneakily use a decoy link that points to a South African university.
In the spirit of Yale vs Princeton, I wonder if the SA university will charge Massey with attacking them with a DDOS.
Can't anybody even remotely associated with Linux these days just be allowed to enjoy the beautiful outdoors?
Yes, but driving for a few hours, getting on a ferry overnight, then driving another 6 hours just to cut the lawn is a bit over the top. My parents got a little farm house in France, but still live in the UK until they retire. I set up a little box there with a few webcams so they could see what was going on, and later it got a few relays attached to it so they could water the garden and play with the lights, also temperature monitoring/control. At the moment a friend who lives in France is going up to the house to cut the lawn, parents feel a bit guilty sometimes getting him to look after the house most of the year - we decided a remote control lawnmower would be a good thing a few weeks ago.
Yeah, I already have an internet-connected robot that mows the lawn. It's called a teenager.
unfortunately, the links to the research group and list of projects appear to be broken
Great, the lawnbot can't even tell the difference between a T1 and grass...
On a related note, the cheif research assistant was also missing his wallet, dog, and 2 children.
12 million sheep in a country of 3 million people and they still need to cut grass mechanically?
A network controlled lawnmower... I guess if you flipped it over like a helicopter and added a gatling gun you would have one of those hovering killers from the movie Terminator. Add some AI to the controlling box and presto! Maybe a webcam on the mover with some motion recognition code. Frontend it with a small cluster and... Sounds like a weekend project!
So I'm just going to flame: You're a retard.
If you think mowing the lawn constitutes good physical excersize, you need to get your head screwed on straight. It is perfectly possable, and even fairly common to be someone that likes to get excersize through somehting like riding a bike, walking, going to a club and not want to waste your time on a mundane activity like mowing the lawn which is not good excersize.
As for your starving children thing, I'll again repeat my first statement: You're a retard. People have a right to work in the field they want. Personally, I work on giving network access to university students. It's my damn choice and I'm not a horrable individual just because I'm not in the peace corp.
Speaking of which if you care so much how about you quit whining on Slashdot, get off your lazy ass and join the peace corp. Stop whining that other people need to save the world and go save it yourself.
talon@khi.local:/root# cat /proc/lawnmower/stats
/dev/lawnmower
/dev/lawnmower-cam &
/usr/local/fourier/image-recognize --camera /dev/lawnmower-cam --control /dev/lawnmower --searchfile /root/pretty-woman.3d
/dev/lawnmower-cam for occurences matching pattern in /root/pretty-woman.3d
/dev/lawnmower to patrol premises.
internet-mower ready.
gastank: 80%
garage door: open
talon@khi.local:/root# echo "mow.begin" >
talon@khi.local:/root# webcam-view
talon@khi.local:/root#
Fourier Image Recognition application
Scanning with
Optimal camera search parameters calculated. Beginning remote control of
MPEG video stream will be saved to the local directory when an match occurs.
I'm really looking forward to more and more dangerous items being hooked up for script kiddies to play with.
All errors in tact and fact are transmission errors.
I can just imagine tool companies coming out with whole product lines of internet-controlled lawn and garden tools. My neighbor (we call him Lefty now), has an internet-controlled chain saw. And Lorena down the street bought a hedge clipper from Snap-Off Tools.
(Que booming announcer voice)
Internet enabled snow blower!!
Internet enabled dog collar!!
Internet enabled Popeil Pocket Fisherman!!
Slapping an X10 camera on something will become the equivalent of "case modding"
Cool - now I can be hundreds of miles away and still be able to tell when my expensive free-range lawnmower is being stolen.
You are a sad shell of a man.
Please qualify.
Please continue to get your allotted amount of physical activity at the mandated times.
No such thing as mandated times. Because I prefer to not mow lawns, I'm some form of robot now? Interesting troll. FWIW, I worked on a ranch -- what have you done?
The rest of your sex will be outside working, playing, sweating, and bloodying ourselves, like we've been doing for thousands of years past.
So the martial arts tournaments that I've competeted in don't count... right. What do you do? Oh, mow lawns, right? I think we had lawn mowers around a few thousand years ago, too. I love people who open their mouths without knowing a damn thing. Lets go round two, troll.
Dacels Jewelers can't be trusted.
Ok, I'll put my lawnmower out front, you drop by, pay me $50.00, and I'll crank the mower for you, and you may knock yourself out having your very own "Mowing the Lawn Experience". This thrilling nature-discovery adventure is yours to enjoy, right here in the middle of West Nile Virus Land, with 100 degree heat indexes thrown in for good measure. As your adventure progresses, I'll crank up the Weed-Eater, and you'll have a go at that. Remember, I'm doing the hardest part, cranking up these one-cylinder beasts for you to enjoy. Ear plugs are provided, of course, for those not used to hearing cuss-words that are necessary to get these little &%*$# mowers and weed-eaters cranked. All yours, for only $50.00! Imagine the stories that you'll be able to tell when you are back at poolside at the apartment complex! Offer good until it starts pouring down rain again, and the mosquitoes are encouraged to breed.
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I was actually thinking of getting rid of the neighbor's pesky little kids. "Oops"
And if its going to be developed by Microsoft, what will happen to bugs and oooh, virii too! Can you imagine that? Mowing the yard, and Mrs. Smith's rose garden next door too?
it brings a whole new spin to the idea of mowing your hot neighbors lawn.
Honesty may be the best policy, but apparently by elimination, dishonesty is the second best policy.
"You call that mowin' the lawn? Bad Webmower! No cookie!"
Schwab
Editor, A1-AAA AmeriCaptions
From the article;
The mower was developed in collaboration with lawnmower and chainsaw company Husqvarna, part of the Sweden-based AB Electrolux home appliance maker.
The next step is an automatic vacuum cleaner, Bright said.
Husqvarna has sold a self-propelled, self-navigating autonomous lawnmower for YEARS.
The automatic vacuum cleaner (also fully autonomous, fully self-navigating) was introduced over a year ago.
(Linked pages are in Swedish, sorry about that. I did not find an English page at these companies' sites.)
I wonder how it was programmed.... did they ask the robot to teach itself how to mow the lawn? Does it look beneath itself to see if the grass beneath it is too long before cutting? If so, would it just wander onto the driveway and claim success :>?
Am I the only one who heard Roxette to sing "I'm gonna get blitzed for some sex"?
Whenever my parents would make me mow the lawn when I was younger I always dreamed of building a robot-lawnmower so I didn't have to do it anymore. And don't call me lazy either, I had to mow an acre of hilly grass with a push mower once a week. :)
Sorry, but this thing just never could have been invented in California.
I was looking into getting one of the Husqvarna robotic-lawn mowers. The convinience and the cool factor (well, if you have lawn obsessed neighbors like mine it's cool) made it seem pretty inticing, but further research indicated that there were a few problems.
What this mower does is basically mow your lawn at it's discresion. This is usually done in random zig-zag patterns. If you're a lawn fanatic (Sad but true) or just like having a decent looking lawn that runs straight with smooth, opposing lines, this wont give you the results you want. It basically mows where ever the hell it wants - no asthetics involved. I believe this mower likely uses the same method, and until they get a little more intellegent, I'll stick with the John Deere.
Unless they try and put linux on it im not interested. ;)
Having done that, I now feel justified in asking WTF is the point of and internet connected lawn mower? Marketing. I'm convinced it's marketing because I can see zero reason that you'd actually want your lawn mower attached to the internet. So that it can order gas refills? So that you can manually start the mower? (Ignorant of the fact that your toddler is playing on the lawn - just out of view of the web-cam that's part of the package.) Or is it really that the mower is just a robot on a timer, with a webcam on your house. For marketing.
I mean, otherwise, whee, what a fun hack target? What's a better thing to play with over the internet than something that actually moves and cuts things and generally causes mayhem? Simply cannot beat the idea of chasing cats halfway across the world with someone else's robot mower.
Makes me despair the species, you know?
IP is just rude.
Is there any torture so subl
Has anyone ever seen the lawnmower scene in Maximum Overdrive?
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... is a remote controlled lawn mower. Maybe a 12" cutting radius and an RC Car style remote. If you really want to make them sell you make it so that you can snap on shells that look like your favorite NASCAR or whatever other vehicle suits your fancy.
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." Col. Jeff Cooper
one of these things killed some Turing Police who were chasing Case. Shouldn't we have learned by now?!?
Better yet, Internet Enabled African Children. Starve or feed them from the convienence of your computer. Create your own famine! Pretend your Bob Geldof! Your a god!
The possibilities are endless
Oh, you don't? Maybe you're the one who needs help.
"I don't know that atheists should be considered citizens, nor should they be considered patriots." - George Bush
It says :
The next step is an automatic vacuum cleaner, Bright said.
But the thing is, (and i made a submission to slashdot about a year ago) dyson (a uk brilliant inventor and industrialist) created and already sells a robotic vacuum cleaner..
see here for details Dyson
When it comes to mowing lawns this is all I and every other self-respecting geek really needs.
That is unless you have five riding mowers , five friends, one big yard and a shitload of paintballs.
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I've been waiting four years now for an internet enabled coffee brewer that uses RFC 2324, Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol!
Chris 'coldacid' Charabaruk Meldstar Entertainment
I can't wait until someone hacks into the robot, now geeks can be murderers too! They won't have to be warded off by their size and lack of muscle anymore, they can just remotely mow people over.
If you're going to have something as unnatural as a manicured field in front of your house, I think you should have to put some effort into keeping it up. Get an appreciation for the fact you are making nature do your bidding. Being the dominant species on the planet is not supposed to be easy!
We should also have suicide centers so those of us who realize we're useless and evolutionary dead ends may kill ourselves more efficiently, thereby saving hospital resources spent on botched suicides, mental health care, etc.