Maybe a change of scenery is in order, like working for a non-profit of a company that does something you believe in. Or take some forensic classes and work with the FBI or police solving cybercrime. Our lives need to have meaning at some point, but you may not have to completely drop IT in order to find yours.
Actually, you can copy the text from some books to paste elsewhere. There's a toggle at the top between Fidelity View and HTML View. For the books that allow HTML view, you can highlight and copy the text in that mode.
As a woman who has a Bachelors in computer science and who is saving up for her Masters, changing a program to appeal to one sex or another is NOT going to attract the people who should be in the field. When I went to school, my classes were all at the men's campus (they were gender segregated campuses, with coed classes), and I was the ONLY female in my graduating class who was in the program. Ironically, I was on of the best in my class, and would often have lines of male students asking to be my partner because they were stuck on the original assignment, while I had already finished that program and the advanced, extra credit stuff. The TA's in lab would laugh if I ever raised my hand for help because they knew I understood what I was doing, and would often find mistakes in the lab assignments that the professors had to correct. Am I a programming genius? Not by a long shot. But I knew the theory and understood logic, therefore I was able to program.
Some women gave it a go their first year, one that I knew of because her boyfriend was a CS major, and couldn't hack it. Women have been working HARD to become respected in a field dominated by men. This is just going to set our hard work back by 10 or 20 years. Bad idea.
I knew I wanted to be a programmer when I was 5 back in the early 80's. I would program along with Byte magazine on our Apple IIe that was state-of-the-art at the time, complete with modem. I don't want to be working with EITHER gender who really truely is not a geek at heart. I have, and do, work with them now and in the past, and it's no fun for anyone. They only learn enough to do their jobs and take no initiative to learn new technologies or go outside their comfort zone.
Please please please don't do this to us. Working in the real world in CS is NOT female friendly, so schools shouldn't sugarcoat it.
It's survived our winter cold snaps here in Montana and then being brought into a warm home after being in 0 degree temps for hours is still working fine. The thing is tough, and you can feel it when you hold it.
I've had one of these phones for a few months now. I live in an area where Verizon is pretty much the only option. It was the only phone I tried that didn't feel like a cheap piece of plastic in my hand. I've had no problems with it, unlike other phones I had used in the past. I only wish it supported bluetooth, but I only have the cheapest minutes plan and I really don't need a bluetooth headset like some might need for long work calls. The biggest plus is it doesn't look like those god-awful razor phones.
A barbie is an appropriate standard for a female body?
*Sigh*
If Barbie were a real woman-She would have to grow to be seven feet tall. She would have a bust that was between 38-40 inches, her waist 18-24 inches, her hips around 33-35 inches. Barbie's weight would be 110 pounds. If she were a real woman-Barbie would have to walk on all fours due to her proportions.
And for the rest of you guys, if Ken were a real man-he would be seven-feet, eight-inches tall. An average man would have to add seven inches to his chest and about eight inches to his neck to equal Ken's measurements.
A PHD is a pretty worthless degree unless you're going into teaching for a living. If she didn't make the right connections to get that academia job, it's really her own fault for wasting so much time in school doing the wrong things.
I'm a female gamer, and I started when I was about 6 years old.
When people (especially guys) found out I was into gaming, the responses I got were positive. I wasn't labeled a "nerd" and I haven't had problems finding a "mate". I also have a degree in computer science. By your generalizations, I should be living in a basement somewhere, cast away by society. Hate to tell you, but I'm happily married with friends and a happy, well-rounded life that includes gaming on a regular basis.
Angelia Jolie had to stuff her bra up 2 sizes to get her proportions the same size as Lara Croft's. The only people who look like this without stuffing are porn stars with breast implants that are way too big for them.
Lara Croft is as well proportioned as your average Barbie doll.
"Lara is indeed a girl that every boy wants to be with, but not in a plutonic way; they want to control her, and have her be the object of their sexual fantasies."
Very well put! I wish I had mod points today.
"If the intent behind Lara was anything besides selling a game with a sexy icon, then there would be no need for the misproportionate breasts, the sexual innuendos, and the skimpy outfits."
Take a look at, for example, Metroid. The main character is female, but there's a HUGE difference between her and Lara Croft. You can make successful games with female characters that aren't sexist.
"They are many, many women I've met with advanced degrees who made it ABSOLUTELY CLEAR that they would be willing to have a career AND do all of the cooking and housework in the evenings and weekends. These women do not feel weak or oppressed as far as I can tell, and one in particular tells me she derives joy from it. When a man is given a choice between an intelligent, attractive woman who cooks and does housework, and an intelligent attractive woman who doesn't, the choice is a no-brainer. If women were up-front about what they want in a marriage (e.g., the man doing 50% of the housework) they might find the men they're interested in not wanting to marry. Actually, men would appreciate such knowledge before marriage, and the world would be a better place for it."
Why should women have to be "upfront" about expecting a man to share household responsibilities equally, but men can assume that a woman who doesn't say otherwise should be expected to carry 100% of the workload?
"Boys typically didn't help their mothers do the cooking, cleaning and babysitting when they were younger, why would women assume that such men will automatically feel responsible for these tasks when they get married?"
Why would you assume that cleaning, cooking, and babysitting would be something a girl helped with when she was younger? I didn't do any of that stuff. I hate housework. I assume that when 2 people enter into a joint household, they will share joint reponsibilies. Whether you did those tasks as a kid or not is irrelevent.
"I tend to believe that men who have lived by themselves after school and have actually had to take care of their own homes don't have such problems. It takes time to develop good housekeeping habits."
Well you would be making a false assumption about the guys I know. When I met my husband, he'd already been on his own for 6 years, and owned his own house at 23. His place was fairly clean when I met him, but now that we're married and living in a new house somehow the majority of the cleaning responsiblities are falling onto me. Don't even get me started about the state of the apartments and homes of some of his single friends.
I really hope my white trash neighbors don't read Slashdot. I have to listen to too many hours of their bass-thumpin' Top 40 Hip-Hop crap a day as it is.
They do in the airline maintenance field. Airlines are switching their mechanics from paper docs to computerized paperless systems. The FAA has approved these new digital documents as legal documents proving work has been done.
What you're describing is the sexualization of women at earlier and earlier ages. It's disgusting, really, to see how some 12 year olds feel they have to dress to fit in with their peers. With "role-models" like Brittney Spears, Paris Hilton, or Christina Agullaria, girls are increasingly being seen in society as "useful" only if they dress provocatively. Hence, a 12 year old girl today may look like an 18 year old girl 20 years ago because they are dressing in a manner that is not suitable for their age. It's no longer about looking pretty anymore - now it's about looking as trampy as you can to attract the most friends and opposite sex. And yes, the standards we use to judge "beautiful" women today are really making women dress like porn stars, complete with the badly dyed and over-done hair, overdone and heavy makeup, and skimpy tacky clothes.
Would Black and White fall into the "game with grey ethics" category? You can play as either good or evil, or somewhere in the middle and still continue the game moving.
Believe it or not, touch typers *don't* need to check what they type for accuracy. The more you do it, the better you develop a feeling for whether the right key was hit or not. I was a data encoder for the post office for 2 years, and the software we used to enter data into did not display what we were typing. (They found that speed and accuracy went significantly up if people were not constantly double checking what they were typing.) Yet most of us had an accuracy of 98% and above while processing 100's of mail images an hour. And this is with a keyboard setup where the homerow could be either letters or numbers depending on what information you were entering in...
If you love computer science / tech / engineering, stay in this field. And focus on this field. If you're into Kumbaya gender mumbo jumbo, move on over to sociology.
What makes you think that working for workplace equality is not part of being an IT professional? There is more to work than just typing code, and that includes eliminating hostile environments and working to get along with all your peers.
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?? I was programming back when I was five. I have programmed so many hobby sites and programs just for fun that I couldn't even name them all for you. In college, guys were coming to *me* for help on their programming assignments. The TA's used to joke whenever I'd raise my hand that they couldn't believe I needed help. And I'm a woman. Go figure, huh?
Ignoring the baby boomer part, I believe you are right. The women who entered IT in the late 90's are now at the age where it's normal to get married and have kids. Chances are they're married to someone else in IT who is doing well and they can afford to take some time off to raise kids or whatever they want to do.
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Maybe a change of scenery is in order, like working for a non-profit of a company that does something you believe in. Or take some forensic classes and work with the FBI or police solving cybercrime. Our lives need to have meaning at some point, but you may not have to completely drop IT in order to find yours.
Actually, you can copy the text from some books to paste elsewhere. There's a toggle at the top between Fidelity View and HTML View. For the books that allow HTML view, you can highlight and copy the text in that mode.
Some women gave it a go their first year, one that I knew of because her boyfriend was a CS major, and couldn't hack it. Women have been working HARD to become respected in a field dominated by men. This is just going to set our hard work back by 10 or 20 years. Bad idea.
I knew I wanted to be a programmer when I was 5 back in the early 80's. I would program along with Byte magazine on our Apple IIe that was state-of-the-art at the time, complete with modem. I don't want to be working with EITHER gender who really truely is not a geek at heart. I have, and do, work with them now and in the past, and it's no fun for anyone. They only learn enough to do their jobs and take no initiative to learn new technologies or go outside their comfort zone.
Please please please don't do this to us. Working in the real world in CS is NOT female friendly, so schools shouldn't sugarcoat it.
It's survived our winter cold snaps here in Montana and then being brought into a warm home after being in 0 degree temps for hours is still working fine. The thing is tough, and you can feel it when you hold it.
I've had one of these phones for a few months now. I live in an area where Verizon is pretty much the only option. It was the only phone I tried that didn't feel like a cheap piece of plastic in my hand. I've had no problems with it, unlike other phones I had used in the past. I only wish it supported bluetooth, but I only have the cheapest minutes plan and I really don't need a bluetooth headset like some might need for long work calls. The biggest plus is it doesn't look like those god-awful razor phones.
A barbie is an appropriate standard for a female body?
*Sigh*
If Barbie were a real woman-She would have to grow to be seven feet tall. She would have a bust that was between 38-40 inches, her waist 18-24 inches, her hips around 33-35 inches. Barbie's weight would be 110 pounds. If she were a real woman-Barbie would have to walk on all fours due to her proportions.
And for the rest of you guys, if Ken were a real man-he would be seven-feet, eight-inches tall. An average man would have to add seven inches to his chest and about eight inches to his neck to equal Ken's measurements.
Huh?
I think you replied to the wrong person. I never said anything about calling "the average body as ideal". How would that be sexist anyway?
A PHD is a pretty worthless degree unless you're going into teaching for a living. If she didn't make the right connections to get that academia job, it's really her own fault for wasting so much time in school doing the wrong things.
I'm a female gamer, and I started when I was about 6 years old.
When people (especially guys) found out I was into gaming, the responses I got were positive. I wasn't labeled a "nerd" and I haven't had problems finding a "mate". I also have a degree in computer science. By your generalizations, I should be living in a basement somewhere, cast away by society. Hate to tell you, but I'm happily married with friends and a happy, well-rounded life that includes gaming on a regular basis.
Angelia Jolie had to stuff her bra up 2 sizes to get her proportions the same size as Lara Croft's. The only people who look like this without stuffing are porn stars with breast implants that are way too big for them.
Lara Croft is as well proportioned as your average Barbie doll.
"Lara is indeed a girl that every boy wants to be with, but not in a plutonic way; they want to control her, and have her be the object of their sexual fantasies."
Very well put! I wish I had mod points today.
"If the intent behind Lara was anything besides selling a game with a sexy icon, then there would be no need for the misproportionate breasts, the sexual innuendos, and the skimpy outfits."
Take a look at, for example, Metroid. The main character is female, but there's a HUGE difference between her and Lara Croft. You can make successful games with female characters that aren't sexist.
Why should women have to be "upfront" about expecting a man to share household responsibilities equally, but men can assume that a woman who doesn't say otherwise should be expected to carry 100% of the workload?
Why would you assume that cleaning, cooking, and babysitting would be something a girl helped with when she was younger? I didn't do any of that stuff. I hate housework. I assume that when 2 people enter into a joint household, they will share joint reponsibilies. Whether you did those tasks as a kid or not is irrelevent.
"I tend to believe that men who have lived by themselves after school and have actually had to take care of their own homes don't have such problems. It takes time to develop good housekeeping habits."
Well you would be making a false assumption about the guys I know. When I met my husband, he'd already been on his own for 6 years, and owned his own house at 23. His place was fairly clean when I met him, but now that we're married and living in a new house somehow the majority of the cleaning responsiblities are falling onto me. Don't even get me started about the state of the apartments and homes of some of his single friends.
LOL - you're not married, are you? Welcome to life of a modern woman.
I really hope my white trash neighbors don't read Slashdot. I have to listen to too many hours of their bass-thumpin' Top 40 Hip-Hop crap a day as it is.
They do in the airline maintenance field. Airlines are switching their mechanics from paper docs to computerized paperless systems. The FAA has approved these new digital documents as legal documents proving work has been done.
What you're describing is the sexualization of women at earlier and earlier ages. It's disgusting, really, to see how some 12 year olds feel they have to dress to fit in with their peers. With "role-models" like Brittney Spears, Paris Hilton, or Christina Agullaria, girls are increasingly being seen in society as "useful" only if they dress provocatively. Hence, a 12 year old girl today may look like an 18 year old girl 20 years ago because they are dressing in a manner that is not suitable for their age. It's no longer about looking pretty anymore - now it's about looking as trampy as you can to attract the most friends and opposite sex. And yes, the standards we use to judge "beautiful" women today are really making women dress like porn stars, complete with the badly dyed and over-done hair, overdone and heavy makeup, and skimpy tacky clothes.
Would Black and White fall into the "game with grey ethics" category? You can play as either good or evil, or somewhere in the middle and still continue the game moving.
Believe it or not, touch typers *don't* need to check what they type for accuracy. The more you do it, the better you develop a feeling for whether the right key was hit or not. I was a data encoder for the post office for 2 years, and the software we used to enter data into did not display what we were typing. (They found that speed and accuracy went significantly up if people were not constantly double checking what they were typing.) Yet most of us had an accuracy of 98% and above while processing 100's of mail images an hour. And this is with a keyboard setup where the homerow could be either letters or numbers depending on what information you were entering in...
If you have a bucket of blood, you have more problems than H2O2 can help you with...
eBay's No Shilling policy
Um, right here... was this a joke?
If you love computer science / tech / engineering, stay in this field. And focus on this field. If you're into Kumbaya gender mumbo jumbo, move on over to sociology. What makes you think that working for workplace equality is not part of being an IT professional? There is more to work than just typing code, and that includes eliminating hostile environments and working to get along with all your peers.
?? I was programming back when I was five. I have programmed so many hobby sites and programs just for fun that I couldn't even name them all for you. In college, guys were coming to *me* for help on their programming assignments. The TA's used to joke whenever I'd raise my hand that they couldn't believe I needed help. And I'm a woman. Go figure, huh?
Ignoring the baby boomer part, I believe you are right. The women who entered IT in the late 90's are now at the age where it's normal to get married and have kids. Chances are they're married to someone else in IT who is doing well and they can afford to take some time off to raise kids or whatever they want to do.