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Follow Internet2's Upgrade
An anonymous reader writes "This is a follow-up to this
story posted several months back. Abilene, the
backbone for Internet2, is starting its upgrade and
has a webpage up to follow the installation. Looks like quite a few interestesting documents
and photos. The first Juniper T640 router was installed in Indianapolis on Friday. Anyone who's interested in what goes into a nation-wide network deployment should check it out."
Now all my intercollegiate... "transfers" will procede faster than I can burn them to CD!
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And does anyone see the general public being denied access to this, because a DVD can be shared as easily as an MP3 today? I bet the RIAA would try to stop us slashdoters et. al. from using it. If they are starting to sue backbone providers, it's not above their heads to try it.
Either way, I hope geeks and others who love progress get it up and running. Good luck, Internet v2.0, because Internet v1.0 sure has turned into a pile of crap (and by crap, I mean DeCSS linking being illegal, anything to do with RIAA, and PopUp adds).
Since the Internet2's huge amount of available bandwidth is surely grounds for a contributory copyright infringment case.
Might as well nip these new developments in piracy-enabling technologies in the bud.
I gots ta ding a ding dang my dang a long ling long
I'm a senior undergrad in New Media at IU Indianapolis. The University is always quick to show all this fancy equipment and high technology stuff (Internet2, CAVE)...but the students never see it or use it. We fund it, but we're not allowed to touch.
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Uhh, ipv6 is kinda the point of it anyway. The "Internet2" (also known as the "6Bone") _is_ the global ipv6 test network, after all. IPv6 is all it runs. Around my neck of the woods, its implemented as a mesh of SIT and GRE tunnels, but the backbone runs native.
I wonder how many hops off of this shiny new hardware my poor little ipv6 GRE-tunnel sits...
Paranoid
Bwaahahahahaa.
I don't really see how this would increase our bandwidth in a revolutionary way. Maybe latency will improve with a better network infastruction but the same thing that prevent large bandwidth usage in the internet will probably plague internet2.
One of the highest cost backbone providers suffer comes from laying down fiber. This has caused many to declare bankruptcy. Equipment (not talking about those home linksys routers) are crazily expensive as well. I don't see how internet2 will magically bring down the prices of either of the two dramatically. Equipment like this will always be expensive to ISPs and laying down fiber isn't going to get cheaper either.
I admit I am not an expert in this arena but that doesn't change the cold hard facts that I'm seeing. Money seems to be the major factor that is preventing the current internet from utilizing higher bandwidth applications.
Hmmm... Pie...
I can make out the number, but I can't read the message -- once again proving that digital cameras can't make up for bad photography.
If all 40 million people (or however many Japan is up to these days) get 8-12 Mbps service, you're going to NEED Internet2 caliber backbones in place. All the bandwidth in the world at your house does you no good if the infrastructure can't support it.
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I'd rather say that people on Internet2 must be used to fast high quality lines where you don't really think about the size of the files.
Ah, to work directly connected to the backbone, and here I am on my slow 2mbit line
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From the photos:
Each crate weighed around 400 lbs, which is why you'll see three people moving one box.
Now I know that geeks aren't exactly renowned for their great physical strength, but does it really take 3 of them to move a 400lb box on a pallet trolley?
In my local supermarket I've seen young girls moving pallets full of new stuff for the shelves on these trolleys where the load is up to 1 tonne! (that's one girl moving the trolley, BTW).
Code, Hardware, stuff like that.
Could a similar thing be done with the Tech world today? Building and rolling out lots of infrastructure (after all, the Internet is the "highway" of the 'net), could the tech economy be pulled out of the doldrums?
I'm just musing aloud here...
No, that is simply untrue. There is no connection between the 6bone and Internet2. They are certainly not the same thing. It's perfectly normal to speak IPv4 on Internet2. I do it all the time, as do most people who send packets between major .edu sites. Internet2 is the testbed for not only new software networking technologies, but new hardware technologies as well. There is no hardware involved in the 6bone.
Here is a traceroute that goes over Internet2:
Hop 6 is where my packets enter Internet2, and hop 15 is where it leaves it. There is no IPv6 spoken along the way. Now here, just for fun, is an IPv6 traceroute going over the 6bone:
Let me repeat that: Internet2 and 6bone are unrelated!
noah
Incidentally, we run both IPv4 and IPv6 on our Abilene backbone.
-- Stanislav Shalunov