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PGP Acquired From NAI

lowy writes "PGP Corporation, the 'new company with a long history' today announced that it has received $14 Million in funding and acquired the PGP Desktop and Wireless encryption product lines from Network Associates, Inc." PGP Corporation issued five press releases today, but we'll forgive it because it actually has products to sell, promises to keep offering a freeware version, and is taking on tech support for existing customers. Also, the email from NAI to its customers follows.

August 19, 2002

Dear Customer,

Today we are pleased to announce that PGP Corporation, a newly formed, venture-funded security company, has acquired the PGP desktop encryption and wireless product lines from Network Associates. As you know, prior to placing the products into maintenance mode, we were actively looking for a buyer that would continue the development and support of the technology.

Network Associates has retained products developed using PGPsdk including McAfee E-Business Server for encrypted server-to-server file transfer, McAfee Desktop Firewall and McAfee VPN Client. These products will remain a part of Network Associates existing product portfolio and we will continue to develop them to meet your security needs. PGP Corporation has acquired PGPmail, PGPfile, PGPdisk, PGPwireless, PGPadmin and PGPkeyserver encryption software products for Win32 and Macintosh, PGPsdk encryption software development kit, and PGP Corporate Desktop for Macintosh.

In addition to the technology, PGP Corporation has acquired all worldwide customer license agreements and technical support obligations. To ensure a seamless transition, Network Associates will work with PGP Corporation to support PGP customers through October 26, 2002. PGP Corporation will contact you shortly with details on its plans and product direction.

We trust that you will have continued success with the PGP desktop and wireless encryption products through PGP Corporation. Network Associates appreciates your business and we value our continued relationship across our remaining product lines.

175 comments

  1. Mac OS X by maxphunk · · Score: 1

    **MAYBE** now we will get an OS X version...

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    1. Re:Mac OS X by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      You will! Read the announcement.

    2. Re:Mac OS X by Yarn · · Score: 2

      From http://www.pgp.com/display.php?pageID=21:
      PGP Corporate Desktop 8.0 for Mac OS X will be available for ordering in Q4 2002.

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    3. Re:Mac OS X by jht · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yep, we will. They've announced that PGP 8.0 for OS X will be available within a couple of months, and it's fully Cocoa based. It'll include plug-ins for Apple Mail and Entourage, and it'll have a version of PGP Disk that'll work with older images and run in OS X.

      There's also going to be new Personal versions of all the apps, as well. PGP Net will be a separate application under OS X, rather than being bundled in the base product. The Windows PGP VPN product will continue to be sold by NAI.

      (Of course, had they posted this when I submitted it 3 hours ago, you would have known this already...)

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    4. Re:Mac OS X by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea, but if you haven't noticed jaguar already has support for IPSec, now if apple make a nice little GUI for all the tools that OpenBSD and FreeBSD have then you won't need to buy this product. FYI i love PGPnet, use it all the time.

    5. Re:Mac OS X by jeffy124 · · Score: 2, Funny

      wow!! that announcement looks great!

      Warning: Too many connections in /var/www/html/pgp/conn.php on line 7

      Warning: MySQL Connection Failed: Too many connections in /var/www/html/pgp/conn.php on line 7
      Error: Could not connect to MySql

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    6. Re:Mac OS X by Bob+McCown · · Score: 1

      #include "rant_about_mysql_being_ready_for_primetime.h"

      error: incorrect assumption at line 103

    7. Re:Mac OS X by mr_z_beeblebrox · · Score: 1

      **MAYBE** now we will get an OS X version...

      probably already been said, but hey....

      from the site:
      PGP 8.0 for Macintosh OS X: PGP Mail and PGP Disk. This new product brings full Mac OS X support to the PGP product line. An all-new version of PGP Disk allows compatibility with PGP disks created on Windows, AES algorithm support, and compatibility with older Mac OS 9 PGP disks. PGP Mail for Mac OS X directly integrates with Apple's mail application as well as providing support for Microsoft's Entourage.

    8. Re:Mac OS X by 13Echo · · Score: 2

      I don't doubt it. The problem with NAI having PGP was that it was pretty much in limbo. Nothing could be done with it. It was pretty much just going to waste.

      This was a really good article on the subject of Phil Zimmerman on buying back PGP
      .

      Just who is PGP Corp.? Their site is down, and I can't get more info.

    9. Re:Mac OS X by baptiste · · Score: 1, Offtopic
      #include rant about users not knowing how to configure MySQL for primetime use.

      This error is a config issue - so the admin of that site isn't ready for prime time. Any web site with a MySQL backend has to change some MySQL parms to fit that application.

    10. Re:Mac OS X by THEbwana · · Score: 1

      - I use the gpg plugin for the macosX mail app .. I cant really see the benefit I would get from this. Putting pgp on outlook is like putting lipstick on a pig. /m

    11. Re:Mac OS X by anarkhos · · Score: 1

      But will it use CDSA?

      I'm not interested in having to open two separate keychains.

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    12. Re:Mac OS X by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, that inspires confidence already. They can't even run a friggin web site.

    13. Re:Mac OS X by Jonny+290 · · Score: 2

      Nah, it's like putting a paper bag over the pig's head - enough to make the difference between gnawing your arm off to get away and begrudgingly accepting the situation.

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  2. Awesome by sllort · · Score: 0, Insightful

    The question is, how long until the XP version of PGP is released? PGP has been my "killer app" for sticking with Win2k - how can you own a notebook computer without an encrypted filesystem?

    Hey, maybe they'll put out a Linux desktop integrated version as well, though who knows which Window Manager they'd pick.

    1. Re:Awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably KDE, I didn't know the PGP util will encrypt the file system, how will that help if your laptop gets stolen, do you haev to enter the PGP password do boot windows?

    2. Re:Awesome by sllort · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      , how will that help if your laptop gets stolen, do you haev to enter the PGP password do boot windows?

      No, but you have to enter the PGP password to steal all the work I've done for my company. The notebook itself is worthless by comparison.

    3. Re:Awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So just one directory is encrypted and you pass protect it? Please detail.

    4. Re:Awesome by Mascot · · Score: 3, Informative

      So.. Why not just install XP then PGP? I've been using PGP 6.5.8 since XP release and it works just dandy. The OE plugin is a bit shaky but it does work. Encrypted volumes (mounted files) works flawless.

    5. Re:Awesome by Cryogenes · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      PGP-Disk works flawlessly on Windows XP, have been using it for quite some time now. It's just not officially supported.

    6. Re:Awesome by sql*kitten · · Score: 2

      So.. Why not just install XP then PGP? I've been using PGP 6.5.8 since XP release and it works just dandy. The OE plugin is a bit shaky but it does work. Encrypted volumes (mounted files) works flawless.

      I've experienced issues with PGP and XP's fast user switching. I guess that the PGP services aren't sure what to do with >1 interactive user logged on.

    7. Re:Awesome by Betcour · · Score: 2

      You can do the same without the NTFS file encryption built into 2000 Pro and XP Pro...

    8. Re:Awesome by sllort · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I did not know that.

      Is there a "unofficial-compatibility-list" somewhere that lists what works in XP and what doesn't? If the IPSec VPN works as well, I might just be in business...

      KWTCMA

    9. Re:Awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      http://www.ntcompatible.com/ for user submitted information about experiences with software under NT/2000/XP.

      I've heard very bad things about trying to get the VPN components working under PGP v7.x in XP so don't try it w/o researching. From what I understand the version 6.x stuff is fine.

    10. Re:Awesome by rosewood · · Score: 2

      I have version 7.0 of PGP Desktop running on Windows XP and have for a hell of a long time, and it works just fine.

      And you can use NTFS for your encrypted file system if you want to be running windows.

    11. Re:Awesome by drsoran · · Score: 1

      So just one directory is encrypted and you pass protect it? Please detail.

      It makes an encrypted image file look like a disk under Windows. So, just drag and drop folders and files into it and they are transparently encrypted.

    12. Re:Awesome by timmyf2371 · · Score: 1
      I installed and configured PGP with Windows XP and my network connection was completed destroyed after that - not even a way to get it back. Has anyone else had any problems of this nature?

      That was the day I switched to Linux and Gnupg.

      Tim

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    13. Re:Awesome by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2
      The question is, how long until the XP version of PGP is released?

      This exists, and includes a working PGP Disk Driver under Windows XP. Check out Imad's PGP PageThe latest Build 9, Beta 3 includes XP compatability. Imad's sources are the Publicly release 6.58 branch fom NAI. His fork includes numerous bug-fixes, platform-compatibility enhancements, additional plug-ins (ICQ), and improved interoperability with GnuPG/Open PGP.

      Joe-Bob says, "Check it out."

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    14. Re:Awesome by Zeinfeld · · Score: 3, Informative
      The question is, how long until the XP version of PGP is released? PGP has been my "killer app" for sticking with Win2k - how can you own a notebook computer without an encrypted filesystem?

      Windows XP Professional includes an encrypted file system. Have you considered using that?

      Outlook, Netscape, Notes etc. all support S/MIME encryption and signature, so adding PGP is not adding crypto capability, it is adding a particular crypto protocol. Now you may argue that you prefer the PGP implementation of that functionality but don't raise a preference to the level of a requirement unless you want to risk that when you give the world a choice of PGP or nothing that they go off and choose nothing.

      The problem we have in the industry is that PGP/X.509 has become a Betamax/VHS battle. The costs of incompatibility are much greater than the specific benefits of either protocol.

      The reason that PGP Inc mk I failled commercially is that they were pushing Betamax while the rest of the industry had standardized on X.509v3 with cross certificate extensions to provide Web of trust type capability.

      There was also a good deal of personal animosity between some of the principals of the X.509 and PGP worlds. At this point however the industry is pretty much been driven by a different group of people and the standards issue has moved beyond the certificate format question. The XKMS protocol is designed specifically so that the client does not need to know whether the underlying PKI is PGP, S/MIME or whatever based.

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    15. Re:Awesome by Link310 · · Score: 1

      I had that problem...did some research into the issue with google/deja and found out what happened. Having another net-connected computer was useful for this.

      Turns out that PGP disabled the IPSec Service for some reason, and IPSec seems to be more than the name implies. I think it's most or all of IP, including the IP Stack as well (not sure, but an educated guess here). Of course I also uninstalled PGP entirely and then reinstalled without the VPN Components.

      This is not the .sig you are looking for.

    16. Re:Awesome by sjx · · Score: 1

      Don't use the beta - there are known bugs (mainly truncation) when decrypting, probably introduced as part of the experimental MDC support.

      I told Imad about these - I assume he's trying to fix them, and since my build environment is now shaping up nicely I should be able to help him by narrowing them down, and maybe even providing patches.

      Betas of encryption software really should NOT be used for real work, just testing.

      CKT build 08 is fine, but for me had a few issues with PGPdisk and explorer still. I'd recommend using build 08 until 09 is finished.

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    17. Re:Awesome by gsa700 · · Score: 1

      One problem with the Windows 2000/XP Pro encryping file system that you should consider is that if you have an encrypted volume and you are forced or required to reinstall Windows for any reason you will loose access to that volume because the keys will not match. With PGP disk you simply need to enter the password.

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    18. Re:Awesome by ces · · Score: 1

      The problem I have with S/MIME implementations such as in Outlook and Exchange is the amount of work required to simply exchange encrypted/signed email. From what I saw they presume you will either a) have an organization-wide CA that has issued keys for everyone, the cert for the CA is on everyone's computer, and whatever directory service you have set up has everyone's keys in it or b) everyone will have keys issued by a root CA and everyone has an entry in a supported public DS with an entry for their key. PGP/GPG has done a much better job in making it possible to find the public key of someone you've never corresponded with before. Similar infrastructure could be set up for S/MIME but everything I've seen so far seems to rely on a central "trusted" CA. PGP allows for a much more "bottom-up" deployment wheras most S/MIME implementations presume a "top-down" deployment.

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    19. Re:Awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I agree, this is the best news I've had today (it IS a Monday after all).

      However, don't overlook the fact that the new PGP, Inc, will only license their products on a subscription basis. No more perpetual licenses.

      Instead you get to buy it this year, then buy it again next year, then again the year after.... This might not be so bad if they cut the price, but they want nearly the same for 1 year "subscription" as it used to cost to just flat out buy the product.

      I didn't notice this until I actually tried to go buy a license this afternoon. According the PGP sales guy I talked to (Dustin IIRC), they will not be releasing a retail shrinkwrapped product. All sales will be expire-ware sold direct thru their website.

      not a flame, just an fyi,

      dvt

    20. Re:Awesome by Zeinfeld · · Score: 2
      One problem with the Windows 2000/XP Pro encryping file system that you should consider is that if you have an encrypted volume and you are forced or required to reinstall Windows for any reason you will loose access to that volume because the keys will not match. With PGP disk you simply need to enter the password.

      If you are using the encrypting file system for files of that type you should export your EFS certificate and private key from your profile and store it in a safe place (like a safe). You should also do this with the administrator's master certificate, only this time delete the private key off the machine completely and make several backup copies of the cert.

      The best solution in an enterprise context is to use a commercial key recovery system. While key escrow is not a great idea when John Ashcroft is going to hold everybodys keys, some form of key recovery is essential if you are going to have a system of that type work in an enterprise setting. The better commercial key managers provide dual control through cryptographic threshold or similar techniques. So although a key can still be recovered the sysadmin can't do so and cover up their tracks.

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    21. Re:Awesome by BollocksToThis · · Score: 1

      Windows XP Professional includes an encrypted file system. Have you considered using that?

      Windows XP Professional has a closed-source, proprietary encrypted filesystem from a convicted monopolist with a demonstrable lack of regard for end-users' privacy and functionality. Have you considered using it?

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  3. Cool. But it only benefits.... by VargrX · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    the corporate/home MS windows user's really. Just about everyone else (that I can thing of(and no, IANAP [i am not a psychic :)])that's not using windows (and even some of the more clueful MS user's out there) are using gpg.

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    1. Re:Cool. But it only benefits.... by sllort · · Score: 3, Insightful

      it only benefits...the corporate/home MS windows user's really.

      So basically PGP only benefits 90% of the Marketplace? As far as being clueful goes, I consider myself to have a clue, and I use PGP instead of GPG because of the extra functionality - seamless integration with email clients, built in firewall, built in IDS, and an encrypted filesystem that integrates seamlessly into the filesystem. How exactly can you secure applications with files spread all over the hard drive (like your Internet Explorer cache) without a feature like that?

      Maybe they're just clued in to different clues than you, man.

    2. Re:Cool. But it only benefits.... by Llanfairpwllgwyngyll · · Score: 2

      Absolutely. Remember, ANYTHING that expands the PGP (by which I mean anything which is OpenPGP complient) market is GOOD for everyone.

      I use both PGP *and* GPG personally. I use both PGP *and* GPG professionally. For corporate use we HAVE to have the Corporate Recovery features (although you can add an ADK to my *personal* key when you prise it from my dead fingers). For signed files on our FTP server (a Linux box) we can use GPG to auto-check the integrity.

      Dead pleased to see PGP being owned by someone who gives a toss now!

      Two things for them to consider carefully:
      1) Code Review
      2) Other platforms (esp. Linux)

  4. Re:Great! by Memetic · · Score: 1

    Oops forgot how to spell and forgot the link to the info on the RIP bill.

  5. Does anyone actually use PGP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    I mean the encryption feature of PGP, it seems a ton ofpeople use it, but only as a cool sig.

    1. Re:Does anyone actually use PGP by Llanfairpwllgwyngyll · · Score: 1

      -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
      Version: PGP 7.1.1
      Comment: Yes!

      hQEMAwl2udpezNSNAQf/Yn4lIDvU0DS2pRhxz/guFx/yxBra r/ QN6ii/0/usCMRo
      atgMUr5h+VuoYbOersB8NfPWewWhAE7ok0 UvCchxFkcqhFAiGw lDqX2duEyTy9Qd
      23a1t6KBEPjawH3wCPXo6RLhpXSmDzAXDm F7gs6lnJ7giArcYC UPs8rOLpt8fsM1
      86EzZm7iwZCI3yVotFN5+kFXY2WDV4SCgd vgmWcX2kftwrPRJZ rNy5ODlKZqUhi9
      Y+zQbIoEon2Zucg7SA3wlUWTQZjsfyHEfh SoJRPC5/4EL0H7D8 rHh4k53JSjCnUl
      u8bYFQ87v6vbmonlEek9nKCC0pwp6fVziz a9rhED2qRp7EVUHa n4Lxoo1CRaSM5T
      OmDfrMNmskVlLOflPivJUM4VLp6A8o28k2 FZxxbB6A1LzNvD1y Ys3K+gBwBA0Wbu
      Q1819K2BwNrNAX7AGACsptVkJ36PP+LWhj f3/kq+IfD9VELamn OsVWaA
      =Qus1
      -----END PGP MESSAGE-----

    2. Re:Does anyone actually use PGP by arglesnaf · · Score: 1

      Aww, come on, your key isn't even on the keyserver.

    3. Re:Does anyone actually use PGP by vadim_t · · Score: 1

      Uhh... that wouldn't have helped you. Encrypted messages are only for the selected people, and having somebody's public key doesn't help you at all to decrypt it.

    4. Re:Does anyone actually use PGP by arglesnaf · · Score: 1

      Uhh, yeah, but then I could have encrypted something to him complaining about that.

    5. Re:Does anyone actually use PGP by Llanfairpwllgwyngyll · · Score: 2

      Ummm... it was *irony* :-)

      That key belongs to "Pretty Good Privacy Inc Corporate Key " created in 1997!

      I found it on the keyservers myself.....

    6. Re:Does anyone actually use PGP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doh, need to figure out what I did to my install =)

  6. You sounded credible... by avalys · · Score: 1

    ...until you revealed that you think programmers *pick* one Window Manager over another when designing applications.

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    1. Re:You sounded credible... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, but they usually ether chose GTK or QT and by extention select a Window Manager. Asstart!

    2. Re:You sounded credible... by sllort · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      You sounded credible... ..until you revealed that you think programmers *pick* one Window Manager over another when designing applications.

      Tell me, did any of the X linux applications out there that are bundled with Redhat and begin with the letter "k" get designed for a particular Window Manager? Or were they designed to function in every destkop environment (Gnome, KDE, CDE, etc.)

      Just curious.

    3. Re:You sounded credible... by avalys · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Obviously, you have no idea what a Window Manager actually does.

      Gnome and KDE are desktop environments, not Window Managers.

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    4. Re:You sounded credible... by Winterblink · · Score: 1

      And instead of being nice and educating him on that fact you come across as an arrogant chump. Good going, score one for the Linux community.

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    5. Re:You sounded credible... by avalys · · Score: 1

      Right...and meanwhile, he was being polite and courteous.

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    6. Re:You sounded credible... by Xerithane · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Right...and meanwhile, he was being polite and courteous.

      I felt it was one of the best pro-windows posts I've seen on slashdot. Well written, non-inflammatory and for the most part a good post. Besides, what he said was mostly valid if you substitute Window Manager with Desktop Environment. An honest mistake amongst non-linux users. Even some I know, if you ask what WM they use will say, "Gnome."

      And I'm not sure why you thought his post wasn't polite...

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    7. Re:You sounded credible... by mwalker · · Score: 1

      Basically, he's embarrassed that the original poster was right - if PGP is ported to linux, the software will have to be compatible with all desktop environments and window managers or some subset thereof. A query as to the nature of the subset is Interesting - or, to some, it's an invitation to miss the point and nitpick over details. Seeing as how not all window managers work in all desktop environments, the original poster has some measure of a point, though it might not have been what he intended.

      The real answer appears to be : nobody knows.

    8. Re:You sounded credible... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, what you're talking about is a "windowing toolkit", which is not the same thing as a "window manager".

      A window manager is a stand-alone application, like kwdm (KDE's default window manager), sawfish (GNOME's default window manager IIRC), or blackbox. In a nutshell, it is responsible for drawing the widgets that let you resize the window with your mouse, minimize, maximize, etc. It has absolutely zero to do with the appearance of the stuff /inside/ the window (namely, the application).

      A windowing toolkit is a library (/lib/libfoo.a or /lib/libfoo.so, etc.), such as Qt (the toolkit used by KDE), Gtk (the toolkit used by GNOME), motif, or lesstif (think Netscape 4.x on Linux). It is responsible for the actual look and feel of the application itself--what the widgets look like, whether you get antialiased text, what kind of theming the application supports.

      They're two entirely different things. You could, in theory, use kwdm as your window manager under GNOME and sawfish as your window manager under KDE (I think the latter actually works flawlessly in practice, and that it is a popular approach.)

      The programmer has absolutely zero control over what window manager his application is run under beyond the incidental control stemming from the fact that if he develops for the KDE desktop environment, the window manager will most likely be kwdm.

    9. Re:You sounded credible... by saider · · Score: 1

      As long as you have the libraries installed, it does not matter what desktop you have. I run Mozilla on an Ice Window Manager running on a NetBSD machine. I had to get the Gimp toolkit first, but that does not mean that I need to run Gnome as my desktop.

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    10. Re:You sounded credible... by mr_z_beeblebrox · · Score: 1

      Tell me, did any of the X linux applications out there that are bundled with Redhat and begin with the letter "k" get designed for a particular Window Manager? Or were they designed to function in every destkop environment (Gnome, KDE, CDE, etc.)

      No, neither did the ones that start with g. Why do you ask

    11. Re:You sounded credible... by avalys · · Score: 1

      I'm curious as to how one would go about designing a program to work with a specific Window Manager (or, for that matter, desktop environment). I can run KDE programs within Gnome, Afterstep, blackbox, and vice-versa.

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    12. Re:You sounded credible... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      the other replyer is trying the socratic method on you, but i think the subtlety might be lost: you are wrong, there is only one X windows and you can run any app anywhere.

      it is true that there is some "betterness" of apps designed for gnome under gnome and the same with kde, but it is fringe betterness and nothing like the incompatibilities between the various versions of windows.

    13. Re:You sounded credible... by rakslice · · Score: 2

      They're designed for KDE... But that doesn't prevent you from using them with something other than KDE's bundled window manager in any way. Desktop environment APIs aren't mutually exclusive.

    14. Re:You sounded credible... by mabinogi · · Score: 2

      There are actually some things that can make applications behave better with different window managers.

      The window manager may require that an application set certain hints on it's windows so that it knows how to do the right thing, like leave off or use small decorations, etc.

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    15. Re:You sounded credible... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      any similarity between the hooting of a thousand over-eager monkeys and slashdot is purely coincidental.
      It's arguments like this that keeps Linux out of the mainstream desktop - it's not the environment that's hard work, it's the frickin 'community'.

  7. Support for Linux ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is no mention of a plan to commercially support Linux.

  8. Check GnuPG, an excellent alternative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative


    http://www.gnupg.org/

    1. Re:Check GnuPG, an excellent alternative by sllort · · Score: 3, Informative
      Please note that GnuPG is not a full replacement for PGP, it does not contain the following features:

      • Run-time filesystem encryption (encrypted fs)
      • Firewall
      • IDS
      • IPSEC Tunneling VPN

      It does have some email encryption abilities however, so if that is your intended purpose, go to it. It's Free as in Speech!

      KWTCMA
    2. Re:Check GnuPG, an excellent alternative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Don't mix up marketing and technics...

      GnuPG is an OpenPGP implementation. PGP (the initial product name) was an encryption tools for email. After, standardize by John Callas and others, under the RFC2440 as OpenPGP.

      GnuPG implements that (and more).

      When you are talking about the rest, this is not related and that was product gathered from other vendors (Do you remember the "wonderful" Gauntlet Firewall ?)...

      So GnuPG is an excellent alternative to PGP and a good implementation of OpenPGP.

      For the REST, you can use Snort as NIDS, netfilter as Firewall and so on...

      But OpenPGP defined a message format and only that...

    3. Re:Check GnuPG, an excellent alternative by ftobin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As always, if PGP had come with an mp3 player, people would complain about GnuPG not having one also. PGP-the-suite is primarily a morass of fairly unrelated products, bundled together merely for markettng reasons, which you have obviously fallen for...

    4. Re:Check GnuPG, an excellent alternative by rosewood · · Score: 2

      What version of PGP for windows allows me to be an ipsec 'client' ??

      Im really sick of ol SSH Sentinel, see my sig

    5. Re:Check GnuPG, an excellent alternative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only the Winblows version of PGP features a firewall, IDS, IPSEC, or an encrypted FS, so comparing GnuPG and PGP in this fashion is meaningless. With Linux (or anything else, really) you don't need a PGP IDS, PGP-implemented IPSEC, PGP encrypted FS, or PGP firewall, so this will never factor in.

    6. Re:Check GnuPG, an excellent alternative by onta · · Score: 1

      +5 just for giving a URL?

    7. Re:Check GnuPG, an excellent alternative by Grail · · Score: 1

      If you read the press announcements, you'll see that the networking items aren't part of PGP either.

      NAI is keeping them as part of their commercial products.

      If you want run-time filesystem encryption, perhaps you should be using an encrypted filesystem.

  9. /.ed already by RussHart · · Score: 0

    Warning: Too many connections in /var/www/html/pgp/conn.php on line 7

    Warning: MySQL Connection Failed: Too many connections in /var/www/html/pgp/conn.php on line 7
    Error: Could not connect to MySql
    </I>

    So they've just bought the company and URL, and they're getting Slashdotted already. How kind we are...

  10. Actually... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Personally I think it's great to be able to download their free non-commercial version but I do think it's a bad business-model.

    Think about it, how much value is there for corporations in a product like PGP? HUGE!

    How much value is there for homeusers that wants to protect their data, also quite big!

    How much do people pay for cable, internet and other stuff each month. Quite some money, right? Wouldn't a product they often use on a daily bases be worth anything?

    For them, I don't think it's wise to give away the product to home users since it has value to them too.

    I think this is the IT-industries problem in a nutshell, people working in it always think their products isn't worth anything then in fact people do pay lots of money for even small insignificant stuff in their life.

    1. Re:Actually... by FreeLinux · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The home user market is really quite small by comparison to the corporate market. Think about it, how many AOL users have a clue what PGP is, much less a desire to use it.

      Since this is a small market anyway, they lose little or nothing by giving it away to this market segment. But, by giving it away, they have a greater potential to increase their mind share and their installed base. They also increase compatibility in the sense that corporations can communicate with private citizens via PGP, something that can not happen if the general public doesn't have a means of decrypting the communications.

      The model is similar to many others who have been highly successful with it. Think about Real Networks, Adobe, Macromedia and even the venerable web browser Netscape and IE. They give the client away and sell the server.

      Now, later on after they have established themselves as the monopoly for the communications encryption market, they can start charging the small users too because at that point those users will have to have it.

      In the end, very profitable indeed.

    2. Re:Actually... by Mascot · · Score: 1

      Well... Flip the coin. The only way to have any chance at speeding up adoption of encryption, is to offer a basic version free. Once people realize it's rather nice to feel free of eavesdroppers, they'll likely realize the benefit of, say, file encryption as well. And there's your profit right there..

    3. Re:Actually... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shhhh.... They might catch on!

    4. Re:Actually... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The home user market is really quite small by comparison to the corporate market. "

      I think both are quite big, the corporate might be bigger but I certainly don't think the homemarket is insignificant or anything like that.

      One other problem with giving things away for free is that you are getting people used to the idea that they don't need to pay for anything.

      This is exactly what all the dot-com have done and it's extremely difficult to charge for something that has previously been free of charge.

    5. Re:Actually... by Duds · · Score: 1

      Very simply they're giving it away so the corporations have someone to use it WITH.

      If you see what i mean.

      If the home users have PGP then the businesses will find it's worth buying it to use to digitally sign stuff heading for them. Different versions of the above apply for all the PGP product lines.

  11. PGP for OSX by jims · · Score: 1, Redundant

    On PGP.com's new site, they also have announced that they will be providing a version for OSX this fall! Hopefully it will support many of the OSX mail applications, and it will also give us PGPDisk. Both are features I use quite a bit. On the down side, they also note that the OSX version won't include PGP Firewall or PGP VPN. It looks like those features will be later and as a separate product.

    1. Re:PGP for OSX by twenex · · Score: 1
      You can already create an encrypted disk (a la PGPDisk) with Disk Copy. Just create a new (blank) disk and choose the AES encryption option. OSX also includes a firewall (supposedly with improved support in Jaguar) and a VPN client for IPSec or PPTP.

      I am looking forward to the mail plugin, though.

  12. Finally! by burgburgburg · · Score: 1

    While it has helped that the GnuPG products were there, the little differences/problems with them kept hurting the experience.

  13. Re:who funded it by Majin+Bubu · · Score: 5, Informative

    Check http://www.pgp.com/display.php?pageID=51#anch23
    T he new company has Zimmermann and Schneier in the technical board of advisors. One can hope.

    --
    Ander

    @=

  14. "Primes belongs to P" impact? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some indian scientists have recently proved that
    determining a numbers primality is a polynomial time
    problem - hence was wondering what impact that would
    have on the PGP?
    Reference: http://www.cse.iitk.ac.in/news/primality.html

    1. Re:"Primes belongs to P" impact? by KillerCow · · Score: 1

      None. To break RSA you need to be able to factor the number, not determine primality.

    2. Re:"Primes belongs to P" impact? by Frobnicator · · Score: 1
      It was already known that primaility testing is polynomial time.

      Factorization is the 'hard' problem that keeps PKE working.

      frob.

      --
      //TODO: Think of witty sig statement
    3. Re:"Primes belongs to P" impact? by speaker4thedead · · Score: 1

      (post or moderate, that is the question)

      Very simply, it could make some things faster.

      In order to do some things, PGP must come up with large prime numbers. RSA key generation is the only thing I'm sure of, but there may be others. Before the primality test, it took much, much longer to make sure a particular number was prime.

      It shouldn't do anything to the security of PGP, since the encryption is still based on factoring large numbers, a process which isn't (significantly) sped up by the primality test.

      --
      "My religion is to live --and die-- without regret." -- Milarepa
    4. Re:"Primes belongs to P" impact? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      None. Finding out whether a number is prime or not was already easy; these scientists have just made it easier.

      That isn't what would threaten the security of PGP encryption. For example, suppose you give me a public PGP key and ask me if it's prime. I tell you no. That was polynomial time, wasn't it? I am also /always right/. Every public PGP key is, by definition, not prime.

      What would threaten the security of PGP is if someone discovered an algorithm that /factored/ a number in polynomial time. The fact that factoring the product of two (unknown) large prime numbers is difficult is what makes most, if not all, modern crypto algorithms effective.

  15. We're totally ./ing their MySQL by burgburgburg · · Score: 0, Redundant
    I keep getting:

    Warning: Too many connections in /var/www/html/pgp/conn.php on line 7

    Warning: MySQL Connection Failed: Too many connections in /var/www/html/pgp/conn.php on line 7
    Error: Could not connect to MySql

    1. Re:We're totally ./ing their MySQL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I realize that there is a parameter you can increase to get rid of that particular error message. However, if you set it too high the database will crash. What more can I say?

      http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/08/18/033521 3&mode=thread&tid=98

    2. Re:We're totally ./ing their MySQL by mr_z_beeblebrox · · Score: 1

      Warning: Too many connections in /var/www/html/pgp/conn.php on line 7

      Warning: MySQL Connection Failed: Too many connections in /var/www/html/pgp/conn.php on line 7 Error: Could not connect to MySql


      That means that they are probably running red hat with a stock build (or at least they used apache RPMs (web server in var). PGP.com needs to pay attention to security issues or at least make it easier and include user names with those informative error msgs.

  16. I'VE GOT AN INFLAMED ANUS.WHO SLIPPED ME A ROOFIE? by Subject+Line+Troll · · Score: 0, Insightful
  17. Linux version by debiandude · · Score: 0

    A few people have posted if their is going to be a Linux version. Although I guess that would be nice, we already have some very apt alternatives.

    I think most people were referring to having a linux version becuase in windows, I believe, it integrated into the mail programs. Whats cool about linux is that this already exists. For instance Evolution already has good gpg support.

    And you can check out gnupg.org for other clients.

  18. Thankfully... by JoshMKiV · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Thank you!!! Freeware just didn't cut it for some installations. We were happy to pay for the product, but then NAI dumps it... The time between owners will hurt PGP, but the damage shouldn't be too bad. Now if Meta and the like will start to recommend it...

  19. What to do? by SiMac · · Score: 1

    I'm the sole (by far) contributor to a Mac OS X project that people use probably only because there is no PGP for Macintosh. Does this mean it's time to abandon it? I know that I'd lose a lot of my userbase to PGP, even if the PGP client for the email client my app works with wouldn't support PGP/MIME (my app has decrypt/verify-only capabilities).

  20. The E-Mail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The e-mail from the PGP Corp., with more than one word per line, follows. Stupid ads.

    August 19, 2002

    Dear Customer,

    Today we are pleased to announce that PGP Corporation, a newly formed, venture-funded security company, has acquired the PGP desktop encryption and wireless product lines from Network Associates. As you know, prior to placing the products into maintenance mode, we were actively looking for a buyer that would continue the development and support of the technology.

    Network Associates has retained products developed using PGPsdk including McAfee E-Business Server for encrypted server-to-server file transfer, McAfee Desktop Firewall and McAfee VPN Client. These products will remain a part of Network Associates existing product portfolio and we will continue to develop them to meet your security needs. PGP Corporation has acquired PGPmail, PGPfile, PGPdisk, PGPwireless, PGPadmin and PGPkeyserver encryption software products for Win32 and Macintosh, PGPsdk encryption software development kit, and PGP Corporate Desktop for Macintosh.

    In addition to the technology, PGP Corporation has acquired all worldwide customer license agreements and technical support obligations. To ensure a seamless transition, Network Associates will work with PGP Corporation to support PGP customers through October 26, 2002. PGP Corporation will contact you shortly with details on its plans and product direction.

    We trust that you will have continued success with the PGP desktop and wireless encryption products through PGP Corporation. Network Associates appreciates your business and we value our continued relationship across our remaining product lines.

  21. Isn't that a bit deceptive? by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Informative
    GnuPG is intended to replace the PGP encryption program, not the entire PGP product line. Of course, there are Free Software replacements for those other products as well:
    • Encrypted filesystem: GPL driver for Linux
    • Firewall: Linux Router Project and others.
    • IDS: Snort and its ilk.
    • IPSEC tunneling VPN: I think this is in Free S/WAN.

    Bruce

    1. Re:Isn't that a bit deceptive? by sllort · · Score: 0, Troll

      Isn't that a bit deceptive?

      Bruce, it certainly wasn't my intention to deceive anyone.

      Encrypted filesystem: GPL driver for Linux
      Honest ignorance; I didn't know this existed. I'd like to make sure it's "on par" with PGP's implementation before considering it a workalike. The most important feature being seamless integration into the Windows O/S and filesystem. If the aforementioned software isn't available for Windows, then it's not a "full replacement". Additionally, PGP offers a choice of conventional encryption algorithms up to some rather large keysizes, and the ability to do useful paranoia-related things like never keep your passphrase in the same part of RAM for more than a few seconds, preventing a powered-down "ghosting" attack. Again, I can't speak to the implementation you speak of, but I'd like a link so I can read over it.

      Firewall: Linux Router Project and others.
      I'm sure there's probably a good Windows implementation of ipchains with a really nice, easy to use GUI like PGP, I just personally haven't found it. I won't contest this one with you.

      IDS: Snort and its ilk.
      Again, no contest of the quality of Snort, and no contest on the Windows implementation. Haven't seen it, but I'm sure it exists.

      IPSEC tunneling VPN: I think this is in Free S/WAN.
      Ok, here I have a bone to pick. Having spent a high quality portion of my irreplaceable youth trying to port this to Windows NT, I must respectfully disagree. PGP provides an IPSec powered LAN (with IKE!) that works under Windows with a GUI configuration tool in no seconds flat. I'm sorry, but you can't call Free S/WAN anything close to a "full replacement".

      So again, I respectfully disagree, but wish you luck in fighting the DMCA.

      KWTCMA

    2. Re:Isn't that a bit deceptive? by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 2, Informative
      OK, sorry to jump upon you, but the confusion of a product and the product line sounded too much like market-speak for me.

      If your criteria include a Windows implementation, we're not going to meet them very often - we are more interested in other platforms. But in the case of the router, that's certainly an advantage. I cringe at the thought of someone hosting their firewall on the Windows OS.

      Thanks

      Bruce

    3. Re:Isn't that a bit deceptive? by bryam · · Score: 1

      Hi Bruce:

      One point:

      "Firewall: Linux Router Project and others."

      is not better?...

      Firewall: Linux Kernel (netfilter)

      best wishes,

      -Bryam

    4. Re:Isn't that a bit deceptive? by piranha(jpl) · · Score: 1
      GnuPG is intended to replace the PGP encryption program, not the entire PGP product line.

      Indeed. I am glad GnuPG doesn't attempt to be an all-in-one mega-security-solution. Many small programs/projects that fill their niche is an important software philosophy that seems to be ignored in the Windows world.

    5. Re:Isn't that a bit deceptive? by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 2
      His criteria include a user-friendly interface. The Linux Router Project has a management front-end and is packaged like a product. Netfilter is the functionality without the rest of the package.

      Thanks

      Bruce

    6. Re:Isn't that a bit deceptive? by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 2
      Well, he didn't mention PGPfone, which is an encrypted telephone. I don't know where that went as a product.

      Bruce

    7. Re:Isn't that a bit deceptive? by bryam · · Score: 1

      The other part of the package: Firewall Builder.

    8. Re:Isn't that a bit deceptive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm afraid I must disagree with you on this point. As someone who is an active contributor to the Cygwin project, I believe it is possible to provide an environment which is almost as good as linux. We have a nearly complete SUSv2 implementation and we are closing in on SUSv3. Still, I'd find it more interesting then the BeOS, an dI know others who would agree. Although I respect your position, I find that in your commentary, using "we" misrepresents the community. Giving people the choice of what software to use is just as important as giving them the choice of OS. Good project developers are aware of the cross platform issues and plan for these. If nothing else, they follow strict ANSI/ISO/POSIX guidlines when creating the code, such that it makes porting the software easier for someone else to do. Many times, the changes required are trivial. I think having a firewall running on Cygwin would be great, as it would be a wonderful alternative to the commercial personal firewalls. The simple fact of the matter is that odds are you are going to run into Windows at the workplace, so why not make the best of it? If a free software solution is designed with some compatibility in mind, thus making it portable, the opportunity for its penetration is that much greater.

      Cheers,
      Nicholas

    9. Re:Isn't that a bit deceptive? by tiny69 · · Score: 2

      As for as I can tell, LRP is slowly being replaced by LEAF(http://leaf.sourceforge.net). The mailing list is still active, but there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of development going on (of cousre, LRP looked like that a couple of years ago when I was interested in it:). http://lrp.c0wz.com, which was a great site for information, is down and it's difficult to find an active mirror of the old site.

      --
      Go not unto/. for advice, for you will be told both yea and nay (but have nothing to do with the question)
    10. Re:Isn't that a bit deceptive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Ahh, gotta love slashdot, where a reasonable observation is replied to with a troll.

      Yes, I do use my machines for a lot more than "organiz[ing] directories" and "type up word processor documents". And I do use a real OS. And it's not Linux.

      You see, Linux lacks the software support I need.

    11. Re:Isn't that a bit deceptive? by batkiwi · · Score: 2

      -Firewall: Linux Router Project and others.

      LRP is a router for connection sharing. PGP gives you zonealarm/blackice style firewalling for a windows system (ie restrict outgoing ports to only approved applications, block all incoming ports by default, etc).

      Granted, this functionality can be attained using ipchains with various complex filters, but I haven't seen a nice gui that says "only let ftp, icq, mozilla, and ssh open outgoing connections" for linux (or windows, apart from what I named above) yet.

    12. Re:Isn't that a bit deceptive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is an IPsec implementation from Microsoft for Win98,ME and NT, and it comes standard with Win2000 and up, so there's no real need for PGPnet.

      Besides, NAI's way of bundling the PGP encryption software with all sorts of crap like PGPdisk, the personal firewall and PGPnet is what kept my company from buying a site-wide license for PGP to use for mail encryption.
      Their inability to provide a decent sales quote helped, too.

    13. Re:Isn't that a bit deceptive? by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 2

      Phil Zimmerman was disappointed that it wasn't being used by NAI, so it got released on pgpi.

      http://www.pgpi.org/products/pgpfone/

      There is a text file about the licensing, which sounds real hairy. NAI released the code, but said that no one was allowed to use it. Or something. Phil was hoping other people might submit improvements. Lord only knows what PGPfone's destiny is in this new exchange.

      --

      There are no trails. There are no trees out here.
  22. Speaking of OSX: Documentation #@ +1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What flash of idiocy inspired Apple to NOT
    include packaged electronic information for
    OSX?

    Read about the babbler-in-chief at:

    The White House

  23. Command line version? by Malc · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I recently tried out GPG with Mozilla's enigmail. What a horrible experience. I'm back to the PGP6.x. It would be nice if PGP7.x hadn't removed the command line tools... can we please have them back?

    1. Re:Command line version? by kcurrie · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What didn't you like? I use it daily and it works wonderfully (at least in the latest version, running on 1.1b). Even my tech-challenged wife is able to sign and encrypt emails to others without my help.

      --
      -- I speak only for myself.
    2. Re:Command line version? by Llanfairpwllgwyngyll · · Score: 5, Informative

      The PGP 7.x command line tools were removed because of the ease with which you could hack together a server using the command line tools without paying for a PGP Server-stylee licence which cost a lot more. The E-biz stuff still gave you the command line versions - but that was more expensive.

    3. Re:Command line version? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yet again: "Aw shit, our product's too good! We better cripple it!"

    4. Re:Command line version? by tjw · · Score: 1

      I would also like to know what you didn't like.

      I nearly switched to Mozilla from pine after trying out Enigmail because of how easy it was to use. In fact, if more people would send me PGP singed/encrypted messages, I think I would switch. pgp4pine is great and all, but there's no "remember password for x minutes" feature.

      --

      XJS*C4JDBQADN1.NSBN3*2IDNEN*GTUBE-STANDARD-ANTI-UB E-TEST-EMAIL*C.34X
    5. Re:Command line version? by aunchaki · · Score: 1

      I'm having no problems at all with Enigmail, GPG and Mozilla. It "just worked". It's as easy to use as the PGP Eudora plug-in. Just type in your passphrase when prompted and the rest is done for you.

    6. Re:Command line version? by Asgard · · Score: 2

      Combining Quintuple Agent, a password-memory program that also interfaces with gpg, and PgpEnvelope, a very nice text-menu-driven pine-compatible gpg / pgp interface will get you the same thing.

    7. Re:Command line version? by Cadre · · Score: 2

      I've used all the pgp wrappers for Pine and I personally have found the best one is PinePG. It's minimalistic, when you send it gives you the option to sign or sign+encrypt and it securely caches the passphrase. It auto unencrypts and verifys the messages.

      --
      All editorial writers ever do is come down from the hill after the battle is over and shoot the wounded.
  24. Re:who funded it by bastion_xx · · Score: 1

    This is good, yes. I've been waiting for someone to buy PGP. Finance was about to pull some accruals for encryption software for our corporate PC's (2000/XP).

  25. slashdotted by Aanallein · · Score: 1, Informative

    Some interesting pages (full of marketdroid speak):

    PRODUCTS

    PGP Corporation's products keep your confidential information secure. Whether it's in transit over a network or stored on desktops, laptops, or mobile devices, PGP prevents unauthorized access to your data.

    PGP Corporation's products are standards-based and use the most advanced and trusted encryption technology at their core. Even non-technical users can keep confidential information safe.

    PGP Corporate Desktop is our enterprise product, including PGP Mail for email, file, and instant messaging encryption, as well as PGP Disk, which encrypts entire disks, PGP Admin allows pre-configuration of company-specific services, security policies, corporate keys, all of which result in significant ease of deployment for IT management.

    We are committed to remaining close to PGP's roots. To that end, we will be releasing PGP Personal for individual commercial use, as well as PGP Freeware for individual non-commercial use, when we deliver our forthcoming major release, PGP 8.0.

    Version 8.0 will also mark PGP Corporation's next source code release, allowing continued peer review of our technology.

    Please go to the individual product pages below for more information.

    * PGP Corporate Desktop for Windows

    * PGP Corporate Desktop for Macintosh

    * PGP Mail for Windows

    * PGP Disk for Windows

    * PGP Enterprise Tools

    * PGP Mobile for Palm OS

    * PGP Mobile for Windows CE

    Available in the fourth quarter of 2002:

    * PGP Personal 8.0

    * PGP Freeware 8.0

    * PGP SDK 3.0

    Please note that PGP Corporation's acquisition of PGP technology did not include the PGP E-Business Server.

    ===================
    FREEWARE

    PGP Freeware 8.0 will be available in Q4 2002.

    We will continue PGP's tradition of offering a freeware version of PGP Mail for non-commercial use.

    PGP Freeware is a single-user product that includes the same core PGP Mail software that can be found in our PGP Corporate Desktop and PGP Personal packages. PGP Mail encrypts electronic mail, files, and instant messages, and also provides the ability to create and manage PGP keys.

    PGP Freeware is licensed solely to individual users for non-commercial use.

    If you are an individual user who needs to secure your electronic business communications, you must obtain a license for our PGP Personal package, which is specifically intended for individual business users, and also includes our PGP Disk software. If you need multiple licenses of PGP software for commercial use, please see our PGP Corporate Desktop pagesfor Windows and for Macintosh.

    For more details about the encryption algorithms, hashes, and key formats supported by our products, please read our Technical Specifications page.

    ===================
    PRESS RELEASES

    Palo Alto, Calif. (Aug 19, 2002) - PGP Corporation today made a series of announcements regarding its formation, purchase of assets from Network Associates a new product release, customer transition process, the establishment of a European partner, and launch of its e-commerce web site. PGP Corporation provides secure messaging and data storage products that allow corporations to ensure confidential customer and individual information remains secure.

    PGP Receives $14 Million in Venture Funding

    PGP Corporation was created in June 2002 by a management team comprised of technology industry veterans from Vantive, PeopleSoft, Symantec, and Counterpane Internet Security, Inc, and former PGP executives, developers, and patent holders. The new entity raised $14 million of venture funding from DCM - Doll Capital Management and Venrock Associates, two of the most highly respected venture capital firms. The amount raised is sufficient to purchase assets, upgrade existing products, develop new technology, and retain reserves sufficient to reach operating profitability without! additional funding.

    PGP Acquires Windows, Macintosh, Wireless Product Lines from Network Associates

    PGP Corporation announced the completion on July 26, 2002 of its acquisition of the PGP Desktop and Wireless encryption product lines from Network Associates, Inc. PGP will immediately license and support current versions of PGP products to current, lapsed, and new PGP customers. Assets acquired include:

    * PGP Mail, PGP File, PGP Disk, & PGP Admin software products for Windows and Macintosh
    * PGP Corporate Desktop for Macintosh
    * PGP Keyserver for Windows and Solaris
    * PGP Wireless for PalmOS and WinCE/PocketPC
    * PGP SDK encryption software development kit

    PGP Announces New PGP 8.0 Products

    PGP Corporation announced new PGP products for Windows and for Macintosh to ship in November 2002. PGP 8.0 is a new product and significant upgrade to current PGP offerings, including substantial new features on both platforms.

    * PGP 8.0 for Windows: PGP 8.0 for Windows: PGP Mail and PGP Disk. Adds full Windows XP support, server-side Lotus Notes plug-in, support for Novell GroupWise 5.5 and 6.0 clients, as well as supporting all current operatin!g systems and messaging clients, significantly enhanced Unicode internationalization support, and PGP Admin 8.0 automatic configuration of PGP Disk.

    * PGP 8.0 for Macintosh OS X: PGP Mail and PGP Disk. This new product brings full Mac OS X support to the PGP product line. An all-new version of PGP Disk allows compatibility with PGP disks created on Windows, AES algorithm support, and compatibility with older Mac OS 9 PGP disks. PGP Mail for Mac OS X directly integrates with Apple's mail application as well as providing support for Microsoft's Entourage.

    PGP Announces Customer Transition Information

    PGP Corporation announced the immediate transfer of all worldwide customer software license agreements from Network Associates to PGP Corporation. Detailed customer transition information is immediately available at www.pgp.com/transition.php. Current customers will also receive transition information by email from PGP Corporation within the next week.

    Promotional Pricing Program: PGP Corporation will immediately accept orders from customers who need to renew lapsed software licenses, purchase additional seats, and upgrade freeware to standard versions for commercial use. New and current customers can take advantage of the special promotional pricing offer through October 31, 2002. Contact PGP at or toll free at 866.747.5483 (866.PGP.LIVE) for more information.

    Support Transition Program: PGP Corporation announced the immediate transfer of customer maintenance and support contracts from Network! Associates to PGP Corporation. To ensure full and uninterrupted customer support, Network Associates will continue to support PGP products through a transition period lasting until October 26, 2002, at which time PGP Corporation will assume all support responsibilities. For the next three months customers will continue to receive support through their existing procedures. PGP is also offering new maintenance and support agreements; information on PGP programs and transition is available at support.

    International Customers: PGP Corporation announced a partner for Europe, Africa, and the Middle East for sales and support, Intellect, a leading value-added reseller and integrator based in the U.K. Intellect will provide sales and technical support, localization, and be a master distributor for PGP Corporation. PGP customers in Europe, Africa, or the Middle East can contact PGP Corporation at www.pgp.com or Intellect at www.intellect.co.uk. PGP is in the process of developing distribution for the rest of the world; such customers can contact PGP at international.

    PGP Announces E-Commerce Capabilities

    PGP Corporation announced the launch of its web site, including commerce capabilities, at www.pgp.com. This web site contains complete product, pricing, renewal, and customer transition information, as well as the ability to order, renew, increase, and bring into compliance software license, maintenance, and support agreements. Information on the PGP Corporation management team, venture capital investors, product direction, and corporate philosophy is also available.

    PGP Discusses Operating Principles

    PGP Corporation has based its operations on the principles of continuity, relationship, and innovation.

    * Continuity: a commitment to open source and non-commercial freeware, the highest levels of encryption, and the continued upgrade of current PGP products, including a new product shipment planned for Q4 this year.

    * Relationship: a commitment to forging lasting contacts with customers, to actively soliciting input on all aspects of the business, company direction and product evolution.

    * Innovation: a commitment to engineering !a new approach to secure messaging and data storage, in time developing an architecture to redefine enterprise security, simplifying user and IT deployment and making practical the universal protection of confidential information.

    "We are excited about solving the real corporate, customer, and individual need to protect confidential information, everywhere it resides," said Phil Dunkelberger, President and CEO of PGP Corporation. "We raised $14 million in this challenging economic climate from two top venture capital firms because they believe in the marketplace and in our ability to provide innovative solutions for our present and future customers. We are dedicated to making PGP products so simple they will be used everywhere."

    About PGP Corporation

    PGP Corporation, the recognized worldwide leader in secure messaging and data storage, builds products that allow corporations to ensure confidential customer and individual information remains secure. PGP Corporation combines a management team comprised of technology industry veterans and former PGP executives, developers, and patent holders with $14M of venture funding from DCM - Doll Capital Management and Venrock Associates, two highly respected venture capital firms.

    Over the last ten years, PGP technology has developed a global reputation for enabling open, trusted, and highly reliable security products. PGP has thousands of corporate/government users and millions of individual users worldwide, including many of the worl!d's largest and most security sensitive enterprises, government agencies, individuals, and cipher experts. Contact PGP Corporation at www.pgp.com or toll free at 866.747.5483 (866.PGP.LIVE).

    About DCM - Doll Capital Management

    DCM is a top-performing venture capital firm supporting entrepreneurs building early-stage technology companies. Since 1996, DCM's six partners, armed with over a century of operational and investing experience, have funded leading technology companies including About (Primedia), Foundry Networks (Nasdaq:FDRY), Internap (Nasdaq:INAP), IPivot (Intel), Recourse Technologies, Remedy (Peregrine Systems), UUNet (Worldcom) and Vernier Networks. DCM offers hands-on operational guidance and access to a!n extensive network of resources, including close relationships with many of the Pacific Rim's leading companies and investors. Visit them at www.dcmvc.com

    About Venrock Associates

    Venrock Associates was founded as the venture capital arm of the Rockefeller Family and continues a tradition of funding entrepreneurs that now spans over six decades. Laurance S. Rockefeller pioneered early stage venture financing in the 1930s. As one of most experienced venture firms in the United States, Venrock maintains a tradition of collaboration with talented entrepreneurs to establish successful, enduring companies. During its history Venrock has made over 300 investments in portfolio companies that have achieved an aggregate market capitalization of $1.2 trillion, combined annual revenues of $150 billion, and employees totaling over 773,000. The firm is currently investing a capital pool of approximately $800 million that includes Venrock Associates III, L.P., a fund that closed in July 2000. For more information, please visit the Web site at www.venrock.com.

    For more information, contact:

    PGP Corporation
    Name: Lori Curtis
    PR Agency: Jump Start Communications, LLC
    Phone: 970-887-0044
    Email: lori@jumpstartcom.com

    DCM - Doll Capital Management
    Name: Aeron Noe
    PR Agency: the blueshirt group
    Phone: 415-217-4964
    Email: aeron@blueshirtgroup.com
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    Investors
    PGP Corporation Receives $14 Million Initial Funding from
    DCM - Doll Capital Management and Venrock Associates

    Palo Alto, Calif. (Aug 19, 2002) - PGP Corporation announced today that it has received $14 million in venture funding from DCM - Doll Capital Management and Venrock Associates, two leading venture capital firms. The funds will be used to establish and operate PGP Corporation as a new, independent company providing secure messaging and data storage products to corporations and individuals.

    As stated in a separate press release today, PGP Corporation has purchased the technology assets from Network Associates, additionally announcing that the company will upgrade existing product lines, develop ne!w technology, and retain reserves sufficient to reach operating profitability. PGP Corporation was created with a management team comprised of technology industry veterans from Vantive, PeopleSoft, Symantec, and Counterpane Internet Security, Inc, and former PGP executives, developers, and patent holders. PGP's secure messaging and data storage products (PGP Mail, PGP File, PGP Disk, PGP Wireless, PGP Admin & PGP Keyserver), in use by thousands of corporate/government users and millions of individual users worldwide, allow corporations to ensure confidential customer and corporate information remains secure.

    "PGP products are well known and highly respected by security experts in leading corporations around the world," said Phil Dunkelberger, President and CEO of PGP Corporation. "This level of funding is a tremendous vote of confidence from two of the premier venture capital firms that we can, through technical innovation, expand PGP into a product that is a corporate requirement for every desktop and wireless device."

    "The feedback we have received from corporate and government customers has provided us with the insights that a comprehensive next generation security product was needed to meet the growing demand for an easy-to-use encryption product that can be used by many people," said Rob Theis, DCM General Partner. "We began working on this project when Phil Dunkelberger joined our Entrepreneur-in-Residence program and are delighted that it has resulted in the creation of a company with the long range objective of offering a complete family of well integrated products, providing the foundation for the next generation in security encryption with proven products and an established brand."

    "PGP Corporation has outstanding market potential," said Terry Garnett, General Partner of Venrock Associates. "The entire security category is growing rapidly and customers have a great need for products that protect confidential information. Keeping data secure is a universal enterprise requirement."

    About PGP Corporation

    PGP Corporation, the recognized worldwide leader in secure messaging and data storage, builds products that allow corporations to ensure confidential customer and individual information remai!ns secure. PGP Corporation combines a management team comprised of technology industry veterans and former PGP executives, developers, and patent holders with $14M of venture funding from DCM - Doll Capital Management and Venrock Associates, two highly respected venture capital firms.

    Over the last ten years, PGP technology has developed a global reputation for enabling open, trusted, and highly reliable security products. PGP has thousands of corporate/government users and millions of individual users worldwide, including many of the world's largest and most security sensitive enterprises, government agencies, individuals, and cipher experts. Contact PGP Corporation at www.pgp.com or toll free at 866.747.5483 (866.PGP.LIVE).

    About DCM - Doll Capital Management

    DCM is a top-performing venture capital firm supporting entrepreneurs building early-stage technology companies. Since 1996, DCM's six partners, armed with over a century of operational and investing experience, have funded leading technology companies including About (Primedia), Foundry Networks (Nasdaq:FDRY), Internap (Nasdaq:INAP), IPivot (Intel), Recourse Technologies, Remedy (Peregrine Systems), UUNet (Worldcom) and Vernier Networks. DCM offers hands-on operational guidance and access to an extensive network of resources, including close relationships with many of the Pacific Rim's leading companies and investors. Visit them at www.dcmvc.com.

    About Venrock Associates

    Venrock Associates was founded as the venture capital arm of the Rockefeller Family and continues a tradition of funding entrepreneurs that now spans over six decades. Laurance S. Rockefeller pioneered early stage venture financing in the 1930s. As one of most experienced venture firms in the United States, Venrock maintains a tradition of collaboration with talented entrepreneurs to establish successful, enduring companies. During its history Venrock has made over 300 investments in portfolio companies that have achieved an aggregate market capitalization of $1.2 trilli!on, combined annual revenues of $150 billion, and employees totaling over 773,000. The firm is currently investing a capital pool of approximately $800 million that includes Venrock Associates III, L.P., a fund that closed in July 2000. For more information, please visit the Web site at www.venrock.com.

    For more information, contact:

    PGP Corporation
    Name: Lori Curtis
    PR Agency: Jump Start Communications, LLC
    Phone: 970-887-0044
    Email: lori@jumpstartcom.com

    DCM - Doll Capital Management
    Name: Aeron Noe
    PR Agency: the blueshirt group
    Phone: 415-217-4964
    Email: aeron@blueshirtgroup.com
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    Assets Purchased

    PGP Corporation Announces Purchase of PGP Desktop and Wireless Assets
    from Network Associates

    Technology, Venture Funding, and Management team launch the new company

    Palo Alto, Calif. (Aug 19, 2002) - PGP Corporation, the recognized worldwide leader in secure messaging and data storage, today announced the completion of its acquisition of the PGP Desktop and Wireless encryption product lines from Network Associates, Inc. The PGP purchase -a buyback of a portion the assets PGP sold to Network Associates in December 1997, coincides with an investment of $14 million by DCM - Doll Capital Management and Venrock Associates, and the announcement of a senior management team comprised of technology industry veterans and former PGP executives, provides the foundation of the new company.

    PGP will immediately license and support current versions of PGP products to current, former, and new PGP customers. PGP products, in use today by thousands of corporate/government users and millions of individual users worldwide, are available today from the company at https://store.pgp.com/.

    "Reacquiring the PGP product line gives us an established, trusted product set, a well-respected code base, and a worldwide customer base," said Phil Dunkelberger, PGP Corporation President and CEO. "We look forward in the future to extending the product line and creating a next generation platform for secure messaging and data storage."

    Assets acquired include:

    * PGP Mail, PGP File, PGP Disk, & PGP Admin software products for Windows and Macintosh
    * PGP Corporate Desktop for Macintosh
    * PGP Keyserver for Windows and Solaris
    * PGP Wireless for PalmOS and WinCE/PocketPC
    * PGP SDK encryption software development kit

    Network Associates retained certain products that were developed using the PGP SDK encryption development software tools. Network Associates has been given a license to continue to maintain and update these PGP based products. Assets not acquired include:

    * McAfee E-Business Server (formerly called PGP E-Business Server or PGP Command Line)
    * McAfee Desktop Firewall for Win32 platforms
    * McAfee VPN Client for Win32 platforms

    About PGP Corporation

    PGP Corporation, the recognized worldwide leader in secure messaging and data storage, builds products that allow corporations to ensure confidential customer and individual information remains secure. PGP Corporation combines a management team comprised of technology industry veterans and former PGP executives, developers, and patent holders with $14M of venture funding from DCM - Doll Capital Management and Venrock Associates, two highly respected venture capital firms.

    Over the last ten years, PGP technology has developed a global reputation for enabling open, trusted, and highly reliable security products. PGP has thousands of corporate/government users and millions of individual users worldwide, including many of the world's largest and most security sensitive enterprises, government agencies, individuals, and cipher experts. Contact PGP Corporation at www.pgp.com or toll free at 866.747.5483 (866.PGP.LIVE).

    For more information, contact

    PGP Corporation
    Name: Lori Curtis
    PR Agency: Jump Start Communications, LLC
    Phone: 970-887-0044
    Email: lori@jumpstartcom.com
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    Announcing PGP 8.0
    Newly Formed PGP Announces New Products for Windows and Macintosh

    Windows Support for XP, Notes, Novell; Macintosh version for OS X

    Palo Alto, Calif. (Aug 19, 2002) - PGP Corporation, the recognized worldwide leader in secure messaging and data storage, today announced major product line upgrades to their industry-leading PGP encryption product families. The products, PGP 8.0 for Windows and PGP 8.0 for Macintosh, will ship in November of 2002.

    PGP 8.0 is a new product and significant upgrade to current PGP offerings, including substantial new features on both platforms.

    * PGP 8.0 for Windows: PGP 8.0 for Windows: PGP Mail and PGP Disk. Adds full Windows XP support, server-side Lotus Notes plug-in, support for Novell GroupWise 5.5 and 6.0 clients, as well as supporting all current operating systems and messaging clients, significantly enhanced Unicode internationalization support, and PGP Admin 8.0 automatic configuration of PGP Disk.

    * PGP 8.0 for Macintosh OS X: PGP Mail and PGP Disk. This new product brings full Mac OS X support to the PGP product line. An all-new version of PGP Disk allows compatibility with PGP disks created on Windows, AES algorithm support, and compatibility with older Mac OS 9 PGP disks. PGP Mail for Mac OS X directly integrates with Apple's mail application as well as providing support for Microsoft's Entourage.

    New customers may purchase a license for PGP 8.0 for Windows immediately. Orders for the Macintosh version will be accepted in Q4 2002. Under the current purchase program, new customers will receive the 7.1.1 version now plus a full year license of PGP 8.0 when it ships.

    A limited time promotional program has been created to simplify this process. Existing customers may purchase a license and upgrade to PGP 8.0 for existing or new seats. The program is also available to new customers. Pricing is set from 20% to 40% off! of standard pricing. Details are available at www.pgp.com/promo.

    About PGP Corporation

    PGP Corporation, the recognized worldwide leader in secure messaging and data storage, builds products that allow corporations to ensure confidential customer and individual information remains secure. PGP Corporation combines a management team comprised of technology industry veterans and former PGP executives, developers, and patent holders with $14M of venture funding from Doll Capital Management and Venrock Associates, two highly respected venture capital firms.

    Over the last ten years, PGP technology has developed a global reputation for enabling open, trusted, and highly reliable security products. PGP has thousands of corporate/government users and millions of individual users worldwide, including many of the world's largest and most security sensitive enterprises, government agencies, individuals, and cipher experts. Contact PGP Corporation at www.pgp.com or toll free at 866.747.5483 (866.PGP.LIVE).

    For more information, contact:

    PGP Corporation
    Name: Lori Curtis
    PR Agency: Jump Start Communications, LLC
    Phone: 970-887-0044
    Email: lori@jumpstartcom.com
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    Technical Advisory Board
    PGP Corporation Announces Formation of Technical Advisory Board

    Key experts to provide guidance and advice for newly formed company

    Palo Alto, Calif. (Aug 19, 2002) - PGP Corporation, the recognized worldwide leader in secure messaging and data storage announced today that it has formed a Technical Advisory Board to advise its executive and engineering teams on products, architecture, technology, integration, and customer requirements. The board will consist of 10 individuals who will provide expertise and guidance in the areas of security, encryption, networking, and future technologies.

    The first four members of the board were also announced. They are:

    * Carl Amdahl, Technology Partner, DCM--Doll Capital Management. Mr. Amdahl is a seasoned computer and networking industry executive who was a founder of three publicly traded companies: NetFRAME Systems, Trilogy Systems, Ltd., and Magnuson Systems, Inc. He is a Stanford Sloan Fellow and received a Master of Science in Management from Stanford University and a Bachelor of Science in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science from the University of California, Berkeley.

    * Dr. Crispin Cowan, Co-founder and Chief Scientist of WireX. Dr. Cowan conducts research focusing on making systems more secure without breaking compatibility or compromising performance. He has co-authored 34 refereed publications, including those describing the StackGuard compiler for defending against buffer overflow attacks. Dr. Cowan received a Ph.D. in Computer Science from the University of Western Ontario, a Master of Science in Mathematics, Computer Science, and a Bachelor of Mathematics, Co-op Honors, Computer Science from the University of Waterloo.

    * Bruce Schneier, Co-founder and Chief Technical Officer of Counterpane Internet Security, Inc. Mr. Schneier is an internationally renowned security technologist, cryptographer, and lecturer. He is the author of six books on network security, including "Secrets & Lies: Digital Security in a Networked World", and "Applied Cryptography", the seminal work in its field. He publishes a free email newsletter "Crypto-Gram" which has over 60,000 readers. Schneier has a Master of Science in Computer Science and a Bachelor of Science in Physics from the University of Rochester.

    * Phil Zimmermann, founder of the original PGP, Inc. Mr. Zimmerman is known for his extensive work in cryptography and data security, data communications, and real-time embedded systems. He is the recipient of numerous awards and was named into the CRN Industry Hall of Fame, named one of InfoWorld's Top 10 Innovators, and Time Magazine named Zimmermann !one of the "Net 50", the 50 most influential people on the Internet. He is a Fellow at Stanford Law School's Center for Internet and Society. Zimmermann received his Bachelor of Science in Computer Science from Florida Atlantic University.

    "We are extremely pleased to have such distinguished individuals with great technical prowess as well as business acumen willing to serve on our Technical Advisory Board," said Jon Callas, CTO and CSO of PGP Corporation. "We are committed to technical innovation and this board will provide both a catalyst to great ideas and an outside perspective to keep us on track."

    About PGP Corporation

    PGP Corporation, the recognized worldwide leader in secure messaging and data storage, builds products that allow corporations to ensure confidential customer and individual information remains secure. PGP Corporation combines a management team comprised of technology industry veterans and former PGP executives, developers, and patent holders with $14M of venture funding from DCM - Doll Capital Management and Venrock Associates, two highly respected venture capital firms.

    Over the last ten years, PGP technology has developed a global reputation for enabling open, trusted, and highly reliable security products. PGP has thousands of corporate/government users and millions of individual users worldwide, including many of the world's largest and most security sensitive enterprises, government agencies, individuals, and cipher experts. Contact PGP Corporation at www.pgp.com or toll free at 866.747.5483 (866.PGP.LIVE).

    For more information, contact

    PGP Corporation
    Name: Lori Curtis
    PR Agency: Jump Start Communications, LLC
    Phone: 970-887-0044
    Email: lori@jumpstartcom.com

    1. Re:slashdotted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder how this can be redundant when no other post gives this information and the site is still down...

    2. Re:slashdotted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because reposting the text of the article a link away is always redundant, especially when you're kwhoring for informatives.

  26. Earlier comments. by mkoz · · Score: 2

    I wonder how this will mesh with the earlier interview where he expressed a desire to open source PGP... It would be really cool if Zimmerman could be convinced to open the code and sell it.

    1. Re:Earlier comments. by davmoo · · Score: 2

      I also wonder how this will mesh, especially since I notice that Mr. Zimmerman's name does NOT appear in either the list of managers, or the board of directors and investors. Does he even have anything at all to do with the new PGP?

      --
      I want a new quote. One that won't spill. One that don't cost too much. Or come in a pill.
    2. Re:Earlier comments. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      He's a member of the technical advisory board, as found at http:://www.pgp.com/display.php?pageID=51#anch24

      Phil Zimmermann, founder of the original PGP, Inc. Mr. Zimmerman is known for his extensive work in cryptography and data security, data communications, and real-time embedded systems. He is the recipient of numerous awards and was named into the CRN Industry Hall of Fame, named one of InfoWorld's Top 10 Innovators, and Time Magazine named Zimmermann !one of the "Net 50", the 50 most influential people on the Internet. He is a Fellow at Stanford Law School's Center for Internet and Society. Zimmermann received his Bachelor of Science in Computer Science from Florida Atlantic University.

      "We are extremely pleased to have such distinguished individuals with great technical prowess as well as business acumen willing to serve on our Technical Advisory Board," said Jon Callas, CTO and CSO of PGP Corporation. "We are committed to technical innovation and this board will provide both a catalyst to great ideas and an outside perspective to keep us on track."

  27. Guess they should be using DB2 by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    like sourceforge.net

    Warning: MySQL Connection Failed: Too many connections in /var/www/html/pgp/conn.php on line 7 Error: Could not connect to MySql

    1. Re:Guess they should be using DB2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Offtopic? I think it's funny - their fucking website is down giving that error message!

  28. Depressed Persian Towtruck Man by Bill+Kendrick · · Score: 3, Funny

    For some reason, PGP Corp's slogan:

    Protecting Confidential Information,
    In Transit, In Storage, Everywhere, All the Time.

    just reminds me of the Depressed Persian Towtruck Man character from MadTV...

    "Allll-ways... Allll zuh time..." ;)

    1. Re:Depressed Persian Towtruck Man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL!! Now that you mention it, it does sound like that....

  29. Now is the time. by mesozoic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've always lamented PGP's de-evolution from a robust security tool to an antiquated piece of crap. Network Associates certainly has not spent due time in maintaining and improving PGP, and to their own loss. Now that businesses are paying serious attention to network security, it's the ideal market for a company like PGP Corporation.

  30. Re:Check GnuPG, an excellent subset by mwalker · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    PGP-the-suite is primarily a morass of fairly unrelated products, bundled together merely for markettng reasons, which you have obviously fallen for...

    Yes, an IDS, a firewall, an encrypted email client, and an encrypted filesystem. What could the relationship possibly be? These products have no business being in the same box, they're from separate industries! It's all a marketing trick, FUD FUD FUD!

    Let's burn down NAI headquarters at once.

  31. Re:Check GnuPG, an excellent subset by ftobin · · Score: 2

    Your attempt at sarcasm shows that you know much less than you think you do.

  32. Re:Check GnuPG, an excellent subset by matts.nu · · Score: 3, Informative
    Yes, an IDS, a firewall, an encrypted email client, and an encrypted filesystem

    Have you actually tried running them together? Like configuring PGPfire to block everything that wasn't authenticated in PGPvpn. You can't do it. There is no interaction between PGPvpn and PGPfire.

    SSH Sentinel isn't sold as a firewall, just a VPN solution, but it allows you to block any traffic that you don't have a VPN definition for. I'll take SSH any day over PGP, and it's also free for non commercial use.

  33. Huge market and price points by dcavanaugh · · Score: 2

    I agree that there is a huge market for encryption, and it will continue to grow as people realize the need for defense against a whole new category of threats.

    While PC encryption has a huge potential market, NAI ignored most of it. To me, the problem was that they concentrated on the tiny market segment that was willing to pay top dollar for an all-inclusive encryption package. I found it quite difficult to buy just the basic file encryption or e-mail encryption. Why should encryption cost more than the entire OS?

    Less than 1% of all my documents and e-mail needs to be encrypted. I think that's fairly typical for users in general. If NAI concentrated on getting something from everyone ($50?) who needed to send/receive encrypted e-mail or wanted better encryption than the feebleware features of MS Office, PGP would have been a big winner. Let's hope the new owners can capitalize on the untapped market for this product.

    1. Re:Huge market and price points by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "If NAI concentrated on getting something from everyone ($50?) "

      I seriously doubt that $50 per license would be enough, I don't think even twice would do. It costs a lot to develop a large piece of software like that and it costs a lot to support.

      Most (all?) homeusers refuse to pay for support, if they have bought something they require support for free if they are having problems with it.

      Encryption is a little bit more advanced than most software so there will be support costs to cover.

    2. Re:Huge market and price points by dcavanaugh · · Score: 2

      Based on your comments and NAI's marketing, it appears NAI agreed with your position -- look where it got them! If the price is over $100 per seat, the market is very small. Under $50, it's huge. Somewhere between $1 and $100 per seat is the optimum price that will produce the most revenue.

      I checked out the price list on pgp.com, and the "promotional" prices are all in the neighborhood of $50 per seat! If they can keep the silly user handholding under control, there is no reason why they won't crank up the volume and make far more than NAI ever did.

      If M$ can sell "XP home edition" for $99, there is no reason why an encryption package has to cost more than that. Does M$ sell the OS as a loss leader? I doubt it. How does the cost of supporting PGP compare to what M$ spends to support millions of idiotic users, and the endless parade of critical updates & service packs?

      The PGP encryption algorithms are already developed -- it's just a matter of applying them to data sources and providing a reasonable plug-in interface to a variety of apps. Remember -- the original (pre-NAI) PGP was distributed at a cost of $0.

  34. Not a big shock... by RobertNotBob · · Score: 1
    Not a big supprise when you consider that they were looking for venture capital. VC's have had to get a lot smarter since the DotFlop.

    Would YOU invest in a company that used PGP as its core business but did NOT involve Zimmermann?

    Well, would you?

    'didn't think so.

    --
    ___ I don't respond to Anonymous Cowards, and I Never Mod them UP.
  35. well, here's one solution for linux.. by gl4ss · · Score: 1

    Loopback Encrypted filesystem howto.html been out for god knows how, if you want it 'desktop integrated' (god knows why), just do some fancy button of your preferred design to run the scripts..


    and don't speak of window managers if you really speak about desktop environments or whatnot they're called(kde/gnome).

    --
    world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
  36. Re: the home market for PGP by King_TJ · · Score: 2

    Well, I think the corporate market is much larger than the home user market for PGP *in its current form*.

    Is there a potentially huge market for the individual home user to encrypt their data? Absolutely!!

    Problem is, the average home user wants something so "brain-dead simple" to deal with, that it basically becomes invisible. If they can integrate PGP to the point where it feels like part of the OS itself (and doesn't cause a noticeable performance hit, or compatibility/stability issues in the process), then they've really got something.

    I envision a product that asks a few basic questions during the initial setup, and then simply runs invisibly in the background afterwards. It should default to encrypting all data saved to my non-removable media, and let me click to encrypt removeable media on a case-by-case basis. Instant messengers like ICQ, AIM, etc. should all be supported, as well as email.

  37. Not gonna do it... by zenyu · · Score: 2

    If you want to send someone an encrypted e-mail, you're gonna ask them for their PGP key. But you'll probably tell them where to get the Free-as-in-beer GUI. If there wasn't the nice one from PGP you'd point them to the Free GPG one as well, and that's what they would probably download, even though it's a little tougher to use.

  38. Has to be a hoax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Afterall, wasn't there a story on slashdot about how MySql is overtaking Oracle?

  39. Suggestion for a new "killer port" for The Kompany by waferhead · · Score: 1

    A nice little fully functional port from the "closed" PGP product line, ported to linux/bsd from The Kompany, intended to drop into the KDE environment would be a boon for corporate and government users.

    (hook up with Redhat et. al.and bundle with distros)

    Having said that, WM choice for an app tike this would mean very little, perhaps better to have a ncurses/X choice for a front end, driving the CLI in the UNIX tradition...

  40. ok there's a RFC lets see them follow it by johnjones · · Score: 2

    there is a RFC on OpenPGP

    http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2440.txt

    I wonder if they will follow it or just pay themselves out of the 15million they got
    (the RFC is explained here )

    I just hope they do the decent thing

    regards

    John Jones

  41. compatability is a RFC by johnjones · · Score: 2

    there is a RFC on OpenPGP

    http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2440.txt

    I wonder if they will follow it or just pay themselves out of the 15million they got
    (the RFC is explained here )

    I just hope they do the decent thing

    regards

    John Jones

    (yes I know its a repost but I could not see it with my GF's threshold)

    1. Re:compatability is a RFC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Considering the CTO is also the OpenPGP RFC editor, the proof is left for the reader.

  42. on windows IPSec is a free download or part of OS by johnjones · · Score: 2

    MS has a free download of IPSec for win98 and its a feature of win2k and XP as they both have IPv6
    (linux needs a patch because it does not have the crypto inside the kernel)

    see
    http://download.microsoft.com/download/win98/Ins ta ll/1.0/W9XNT4Me/EN-US/msl2tp.exe

    regards

    John Jones

    p.s. check the secure log to see whats going on in linux and set pluto to log

  43. Re:Check GnuPG, an excellent subset by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your attempt at debate, sans facts or any attempt to argue on the merits, shows you know how to argue on the Internet: Make some baseless insult, lean back, and act smug.

    Nicely done. Too bad you look like an idiot now.

  44. Re:Open source it all!! by absurd_spork · · Score: 2
    Puhleeease!

    Need to hire a 'geek' in Michigan? Hire me [mailto]!

    Are you sure you're good at advertising for yourself?

  45. Re:Check GnuPG, an excellent subset by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Asstart.

  46. Erm... by rakslice · · Score: 2

    How does determining primality in polynomial time help you factor really big composites?

  47. Re:on windows IPSec is a free download or part of by rosewood · · Score: 2

    Except it requires x509 certs and then freeswan reqs a patch, which doesnt work well in RPM installs

    I am trying to do this with a PSK which does not work with the windows clients

  48. Use GnuPG with WinPT on Windows by Captain+Chad · · Score: 2
    The main problem I had with GnuPG is that it's a command-line program. I really missed some of the nice GUI features in the Windows version of PGP. Then I found out about WinPT, which is a GUI shell for GnuPG.

    Love it. Use it all the time. Recommended.

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  49. also... please note... by zonker · · Score: 0

    there isn't a truely user friendly interface for GnuPG that i've seen. perhaps there out there, but in my mind, there should be a windowed version of the program. GnuPG is just too much of a hassle to use w/o a manager program, and most of them seem to be written by people who know nothing of user interfaces (at least for real people). thanks, i'll stick to pgp, it's a program i can use w/o reading a manual or having a degree in engineering.