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Tenebrae Quake
viperstyx writes "Ah, the days of running around in bland 3d environments and fragging your best friends surrounded by a plethora of sprites and simple textures. What if we could go back to those days, except with per-pixel shading and transparent water? Well now, thanks to Tenabrae Quake you can. This small [just over 3mb] mod to the original quake engine allows users to play Quake while taking advantage of new technology like per-pixel shading. Its beautiful and definitely worth any old skool gamer's time =]"
http://216.239.51.100/search?q=cache:uauPOD4eZTsC: users.pandora.be/hollemeersch/blackrose/tenebrae/+ Tenebrae+Quake&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
I can only hope that someone will take the lessons learned from this and possibly re-vamp the old doom, maybe doom II would be eaiser, but doom would be oh-so-cool if someone were to add in modern features and graphics, but allow the gameplay for the most part to remain the same... Or, maybe I'm just nuts....
Stuff like per-pixel shading and transparent water effects won't change the gameplay one bit. Quake will still be Quake, only instead of being able to play on your old P100, you now need a much more powerful machine and graphics accelerator. Games don't improve because the graphics are updated - in fact, part of the appeal of games like Quake is that we can look back at the game and marvel at what they could do with what they had at the time. It's a sad state of affairs when a fantastic game that still looks great today has to have its graphics improved to sate the appetites of those with a sweet tooth for eye candy.
What have i seen last couple of days on slashdot: A story about getting back to the old internet with BBS systems, Time travelling, and now this. Someone trying to make a point that the past is better than now???
A mirror of the screen shots is at http://www.codewhore.org/tbq.
I must really be starved for attention to do this.
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Yes, back in the day...
Back in the day, we had to walk 20 miles in the snow to get to the town's graphics processor... (it was an ATI Rage, and we hailed it as the greatest thing ever...), then we had to take the pixel that it gave us and walk all the way another 20 miles to get to the town shader... he'd shade each and every pixel by hand... once we finally got our pixel, we'd have to walk the 20 miles back home again to put out pixel right in the memory, with our DIP switches.... And don't you forget it Michael, it wasn't frames per minute, you'd be lucky if you could get 1 frame per hou-- whatzat sonny??
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Thanks. Needed that.
Was the scare factor.
I LOVED the single player aspect of quake.
When the demo was first released, a friend and I got together and played through it co-op.
Nothing like turning a corner just to find some big ass bad guy... with me screaming... dying.. and shouting "OMG! Dont go around that corner!" (I am talking about first running into a shambler btw... hehe)
A big part of what gave this effect was the atmosphere combined with the fact that, at the time... neither of us where very good at playing this type of game.
The new lighting and whatnot (from what I've seen in the screenies...) it looks like this type of atmosphere has been enhanced greatly.
The only real problem is the fact that... after playing through the game so many times, and many years of FPS action, I am quite good at not dying. Yes this is a PROBLEM. LOL... I don't want to get through the entire game on nightmare and only die once...
This is one of the reasons why I really look forward to Doom III. It looks like the atmosphere and hopefully decently hard badguys will provide a decent thrill factor.
In this kind of game, I want to come around some corner and literally jump out of my seat.
The only game I've played lately that has done that for me was Return to Castle Wolfenstein. And only then, it was a few key moments. Like one part where you come through a hallway with a door at the end... and a window to the left just before the door... you can't really SEE through the window yet... but as you walk up a body flys at the window... now that scared the crap out of me! LOL roommate says, "Why did you just scream like a girl?". hehehehe.
Luke
Now even Quake1 runs bad on my Voodoo3!
The original quake had transparent water.. well, if you run a special VIS-pass over the maps and used glquake (or had the power to run a special executable which did it on the fly -- I think -- I never did that though). I played it that way all the time, and it was much fun.
Sprites? Didn't Carmack say he only used three sprites in quake? Or was that quake 2.. no, I think it's the original quake that only had three or so sprites (waterbubbles and something and another).. ah.. I found it on google.
As for the doom-engine games, there's already DooM Legacy which features TCP/IP network play and split-screen two-player mode on one computer, and more.
Belief is the currency of delusion.
I have just spent 200 Euros to buy a video card that will run today's games. It has more memory than my mainboard and the processor is nearly as fast ( and it cost more than my mainboard is worth, I suspect ).
So, how much better are these new games, now I have all this X hundred MHz rendering-Anti-pipeline-fx-rendering bollocks ?
Nix, nul, niente, zero, no difference.
There are more pixels on my screen and the mist is rendered better. Oo oo.
Games manufacturers need to cut their ties to video and sound card manufacturers and produce better games, not games that REQUIRE the latest tech, while adding NOTHING in gameplay.
try sdlquake. A version of quake1 that uses SDL.
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Those servers are gay! They have self damage disabled, so the rocket launcher is overpowering.
VERY cool, goto the quit screen with the credits, and hit D. If you shoot the well of wishes sign in the nightmare hallway it tells you this.
- The technical demo of retrofitting an existing OpenGL engine with the new stuff they're doing with DOOM III
- The fact that Quake is one of a few games with available GPL'd source
- The fact that many people still own the game or have ever owned it (I had to break out my old CD)
- The sheer novelty of it - he could have chosen the more up to date (relatively speaking) Quake II engine but this is even more impressive
- And finally, this now officially labels this guy as a badass graphics programmer.
I can hear it now...MR. BURNS: "I need a programmer! Get John Carmack on the line!"
SMITHERS: "He's unavailable sir."
MR. BURNS: "Then get me his non-union Belgian equivalent!"
Schnapple