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Mozilla 1.1 Hits The Street
asa writes: "Mozilla 1.1 has arrived!. This release has many new features including full-screen mode for Linux, Mac MathML support, a redesigned JavaScript Debugger, new window icons for the different Mozilla applications, view selection source, display HTML mail as plaintext, and much more. Along with all the new features, Mozilla 1.1 also contains many improvements to performance, stability, standards support, and web site compatibility. You can get Mozilla 1.1 by visiting the mozilla.org releases page or directly from ftp at ftp.mozilla.org. Now that 1.1 is out the door, the focus moves to 1.2 alpha, and beyond. If you're confused as to how all of these releases relate to each other, be sure to check out the Mozilla Roadmap and the community hub over at mozillaZine.org."
Check out the radial context menus or the mouse gestures. Look at edit->preferences->navigator->internet search, and edit->preferences->advanced->Scripts&Plugin s. And finally take a look at the preferences bar to quickly enable or disable certain options. These are always the first things I install with any new Mozilla, release or nightly.
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Having downloaded Moz 1.1 the difference is not so great, as expected. Some minor bugs have vanished, like the frequent paralyzation of the http-input field.
In general, there is nothing IE can do for me that Moz can't. And Moz is just... a smoother ride. Plus it's got good karma. Recommended.
Ctrl-pgup, and ctrl-pgdn under windows. ctrl-t for a new tab, ctrl-w to close one. Or use mouse gestures or piemenus.
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And indeed, those shortcuts aren't really handy if you want to use a mouse, but I personally have quickly grown used to them. Who needs a mouse anyway?
It is great, that Mozilla progresses and that Slashdot supports the work by directing traffic to their site. But I really hope that /. could give other and new browser projects coverage as well. Many of them have innovative ideas, and potential, and probably would not mind a few more volunteer developers. Slashdot is in great position to give these too the needed momentum. Why don't you release an article about one of them today already?
Thought you guys would like this:-) http://linux.darylstimm.com/mozilla1280.jpg
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1.1 is still a very immature version, compared to the Internet Explorer family of technologies, which is currently in version 6.x and still being improved daily.
When will Mozilla feature speedier web browsing, and better integration with best-of-breed Microsoft products such as MSN messenger and Outlook XP?
A theme that more closely matches the award winning Windows look-and-feel would also be helpful.
However, uninstalling 1.0 doesn't remove your profile - all your preferences will remain and can be used with 1.1 without any problems.
Just make sure not to switch back and forth between 1.0 and 1.1 while using the same profile...
I just want to know what program they used to generate that funky milestone graph. Anyone know?
I use to have a funny sig, but slash cut it off, and I forgot what the punchline was.
They're also simultaneously working on a 1.0.1 branch. Mozilla 1.0.1 RC2 was released a time ago (while they were working on 1.1 as well), and is still the current 1.0.x build. Mozilla 1.1 does NOT succeed 1.0.1, as evident by the "RC 2" status. 1.0.x is simply a separate branch for stability, while 1.1, 1.2, etc is for new technology and features. I'm pretty sure they'll go on with a 1.1.x branch even after 1.2 is released as well.
In other words, it's not as simple as the Mozilla team moving from 0.9.x to 1.0 and proceeding to 1.1 and 1.2.
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When Mozilla uses standard Windows form controls for items such as the browser location drop down list that handle an initial mouse swipe focus like every other browser and text box behaves in any other Windows program, then I'll consider switching.
There aren't the resources to do it. There aren't even the resources to do the two branches we're doing, really.
Presumably [in a Internet Cafe] in Downtown Tokyo?
There is a way to open tabs "in the background":
Preferences->Navigator->Tabbed_Browsing->Load_li nks_In_The_Background
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42. Easy. What is 32 + 8 + 2?
I don't think it's ever been ctrl-tab. Maybe in multizilla - but not in mozilla. ctrl-tab has been used for switching the focus between frames/location bar since at least the 4.x days, and this is not going to change.
However, as you mentioned, everything is configurable. In this case, you need to create a file called userHTMLBindings.xml in the res/builtin/ directory and edit it according to the instructions found here.
I'm looking for a feature (that others have requested too) that will allow me to dynamically enable/disable a plugin (Hint: Flash ads, or stupid Java tickers). I know I can just muck around with the plugins directory, but that is more of a permanent change. It would be nice to have a dropdown menu about all of the plugins installed, and enable/disable them like that; or you could bind some hot keys to enable/disable specific plugins.
See Mozilla keyboard navigation. See also Mozilla bug #103796 (no direct linking to bugzilla.) Basically only windows had standard shortcuts for stuff like that and it happened to be CTRL+Page Up/Down and the moz dev team decided to copy it. CTRL+TAB was decided to be used to navigate between frames. However, for me changing between different tabs is more important action than changing between different frames with keyboard. What's the simplest way to swap those shortcuts? Can I add something to user.js or is it something harder? Usually I use mouse gestures for the tab switching...
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How do I change the various keyboard-shortcuts?
Comming from [browser], it'd be easier to set up the keyboard shortcuts you're used to, than having to get used to a new set.
We do not live in the 21st century. We live in the 20 second century.
Please, please, please can I have the ability to rearrange the bookmarks live as in IE, rather than going to the bookmark editor every time.
Bug requests for a pref on this have been shot down before (for example bug 131037), but if you submit a new bug where you clearly explain the way you're browsing and why in that scenario the new closing method is undesirable, you might have a chance. Don't go into a lot of options - only request left-to-right versus right-to-left with a hidden pref.
You can also just fix the behaviour yourself. If you only try a new mozilla version every few months it'd be worth it. I'm asuming you use windows for the following - if you use linux you should be able to figure out the differences yourself:
In your mozilla/chrome directory (note: mozilla itself, not the profile) there's a file toolkit.jar - backup this file and then unzip it in its current location - so you have subdirectories chrome/toolkit/content/... Open the file tabbrowser.xml in your favorite text-editing program (notepad should do) and locate the line:
else if (index == this.mPanelContainer.childNodes.length - 1)
this should be on line 761. Edit it to:
else if (index > 0)
save and rezip to toolkit.jar. Make certain the directory structure is the same as it was before - so all content in the zipfile is located in a subdirectories with content/ being the first subdirectory.
Run mozilla and enjoy tabs that close from right to left. If somehow this doesn't work (most likely a problem with how you zipped the archive) restore the backup and try again.
mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-1.1.tar.gz can be had from giFT/OpenFT. Hash 41f7588955a35a0bafa63426eae04dc8.
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Use the net installer.
Get this theme. Very, very smooth and clean. Several amplitudes better than the default theme. It's surprising that Mozilla doesn't come with this supplied as a standard...
Could they make it any harder to find?
I've clicked around forever and still
can't find a simple *.tar.gz form of
the 1.1 source code release.
Just take the file piemenu.js in mozilla/chrome/radialcontext/content and change this line:The timeout is fixed in 900 by default, you can make it lower.
While you are there you can find a lot of options, just don't be afraid to try.
Fh
It's under the preferences somewhere . . . Just uncheck "Use Radial Thingamajiggers" or whatever. It's not quite the same thing as uninstalling, but it does the trick.
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At this rate you should save your bandwidth, and look for 1.2b tommorow night!
;-) and not 1.2b. Mozilla 1.1alpha, however, is right around the corner. Expect to see it sometime in the next couple of weeks.
Actually, not quite that soon
--Asa
it took them forever to reach 1.0 (although the 0.9 releases were already really good), but now they're releasing a 1.1 after only a short time
We branched for 1.0 around April 09. That day we began work on 1.1. Mozilla 1.1 was finished on August 26. That's more than 4 months of development.
We branched for 1.1 around August 05. That day we began work on Mozilla 1.2. We should be seeing a Mozilla 1.2alpha pretty soon.
--Asa
Clean install doesn't touch your bookmarks and if you installed your plugins into your profile directory you'd be able to hold onto them (or just back up your plugins dir. if you're reading slashdot you should be able to do that).
--Asa
Yes, you do have to click and click and swipe.
If this is your big gripe about Mozilla then you're gonna love 1.1 because it works as you'd expect now.
--Asa
Mozilla lacks something very important: It doesn't work smoothly with KMail which is my mail program of choice right now.
Mozilla really needs to integrate well with other applications. Most importantly, it really needs a way to launch an application when users click on a mailto-link. This is bug 11459.
Also quite important is that you can launch Mozilla and have it open a new tab (not window) from other applications. This is Bug 104204.
I would encourage everybody to join in to get this working! :-)
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Some components, such as the HTML renderer, are *never* swapped to disk because they are used to render parts of the desktop, especially under XP. Of course the memory footprint for these compenents is 'hidden' under the umbrella of Kernel memory.
Moz 1.1 sits in about 32mb of ram under normal conditions. This can swell or even double if you've got a bunch of tabs open or are loading a huge, graphically intense page. Also, ram allocated to plugins like Flash, etc.. is listed as still belonging to Mozilla, so that figure can rise dramatically, depending on the webpage.
Windows 2000, for comparison's sake, sits in about 64 mb of ram. XP has a footprint that's about 128mb wide, but a lot of that does get cached out... especially the multimedia components that are otherwise active all the time. Since Winnt4 without IE 4 or 5 will comfortably operate in 16mb or ram or less, I can only assume that most of the ram needed for Win2k and Xp are used by services or components related to Intenet Explorer, Media Player, and in some cases, Office.
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Go to "Edit / Preferences / Advanced / Mouse gestures" and de-select all modifier keys (Ctrl, Alt, Shift). I have my mouse gesture button set to the right button, so all I need to do for "back" is "right button + left", which works great. If you hold down the right button without moving / gesturing, you'll get your normal context menu.
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What this means over the course of a year or so is a smaller, faster browser. Mozilla 1.0 was better in every way than Mozilla M18, but was much faster and actually had a smaller memory footprint.
Developers are looking out for bigger performance wins, but the incremental approach is producing results without stability tradeoffs.
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Try PrefBar over at XULplanet. It has exactly what you're looking for.
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