Mozilla 1.1 Hits The Street

asa writes: "Mozilla 1.1 has arrived!. This release has many new features including full-screen mode for Linux, Mac MathML support, a redesigned JavaScript Debugger, new window icons for the different Mozilla applications, view selection source, display HTML mail as plaintext, and much more. Along with all the new features, Mozilla 1.1 also contains many improvements to performance, stability, standards support, and web site compatibility. You can get Mozilla 1.1 by visiting the mozilla.org releases page or directly from ftp at ftp.mozilla.org. Now that 1.1 is out the door, the focus moves to 1.2 alpha, and beyond. If you're confused as to how all of these releases relate to each other, be sure to check out the Mozilla Roadmap and the community hub over at mozillaZine.org."

Comments

After installation...

[snake_dad]

Check out the radial context menus or the mouse gestures. Look at edit->preferences->navigator->internet search, and edit->preferences->advanced->Scripts&Plugin s. And finally take a look at the preferences bar to quickly enable or disable certain options. These are always the first things I install with any new Mozilla, release or nightly.

Mozilla has good karma.

[bjornte]

I've been a Moz 1.0 user since it was launched, and I've been very pleased with it. Many nice touches, like tabbed browsing (try ctrl-shift-clicking), banning images from ad-serves, anti-popup and so on. Best of all, it manages all the security routines my internet bank throws at it.

Having downloaded Moz 1.1 the difference is not so great, as expected. Some minor bugs have vanished, like the frequent paralyzation of the http-input field.

In general, there is nothing IE can do for me that Moz can't. And Moz is just... a smoother ride. Plus it's got good karma. Recommended.

Re:Mozilla has good karma.

[Aanallein]

Hitting the checbox in: edit, preferences, navigator, tabbed browsing: "load links in the background" will make opening tabs in the background the default action - no need to even bother with the shift key anymore.

Other nice touches for tabbed browsing: Try dragging a plain text link - http://www.mozilla.org - to an ampty area of the tab bar (if you have many tabs open: near the close button) - this will open a new tab with that link. Dragging the link to a tab itself will load the link in that tab.
Middle-click on a tab in the tab bar will close the tab.
Dragging a bookmark from the personal toolbar onto the tab bar will open that bookmark in a new tab.

Re:Mozilla has good karma.

[astrosmash]

The only thing I miss from IE is the auto fill-in when entering data in a form. That saved me a lot of typing. Mozilla's fill-in seems to only work on some pages, and then it only remembers one answer. IE lets remembers all of my answers to a single field.

Have you tried "Edit->Fill In Form" from the main menu? That's where Mozilla keeps all of your saved form info. It works reasonably well most of the time, but it's not exactly intuative.

I remember reading somewhere that work was underway to make form auto-filling more intuative, similar to what IE does, but I don't know if any work has actually been done or not -- it may have just been talk.

Re:Mozilla has good karma.

[AntiTuX]

type this into your textbox:

chrome://communicator/locale/wallet/index.html

Fill in your form, and go whoopass :)

Re:Not complaining, but gave me two crash messages

[snake_dad]

Ctrl-pgup, and ctrl-pgdn under windows. ctrl-t for a new tab, ctrl-w to close one. Or use mouse gestures or piemenus.

Re:Not complaining, but gave me two crash messages

[Aanallein]

i wish you could switch between tabs by keyboard shortcut!

ctrl-pageup and ctrl-pagedown do this. See the keyboard shortcuts.
And indeed, those shortcuts aren't really handy if you want to use a mouse, but I personally have quickly grown used to them. Who needs a mouse anyway? :)

Coverage for other browser projects as well

[jukal]

It is great, that Mozilla progresses and that Slashdot supports the work by directing traffic to their site. But I really hope that /. could give other and new browser projects coverage as well. Many of them have innovative ideas, and potential, and probably would not mind a few more volunteer developers. Slashdot is in great position to give these too the needed momentum. Why don't you release an article about one of them today already?

Re:Coverage for other browser projects as well

[Plug]

While I'm the first to say that monopolies are bad, I like the fact that the OSS community has banded together enough to make something of the scale of Mozilla, instead of being tied up in lots of little sub-projects.

I like the fact that Galeon exists, that K-Meleon exists, that Chimera exists - and because they're all based on Mozilla, they're all as good as each other at rendering web content. If they all started as projects from scratch then none of them would be anywhere _near_ as good as they are now.

Instead of a million ICQ clients out there that implement 80% of the functions, if we had one decent ICQ library that all the clients used, then they could all use that library (Yes, I know there a couple of libs that are getting there - there weren't when I looked a couple of months back.)

I think it's a great thing that there is a standard library (Gecko) for rendering web pages that other projects can implement and build on. While I don't want to suggest the stifling of competition, I don't want to see people wasting time developing an alternative to something that is the best there is, and that they can just grab and use.

With the addition of calendaring, Mozilla is almost in a position to take on the IE/Outlook combination. Who would have suggested that a year ago? Mozilla is more than just another in the sea of browsers.

Thought you guys would like this

[dcstimm]

Thought you guys would like this:-) http://linux.darylstimm.com/mozilla1280.jpg

But Mozilla still has some weaknesses

[norculf]

1.1 is still a very immature version, compared to the Internet Explorer family of technologies, which is currently in version 6.x and still being improved daily.

When will Mozilla feature speedier web browsing, and better integration with best-of-breed Microsoft products such as MSN messenger and Outlook XP?

A theme that more closely matches the award winning Windows look-and-feel would also be helpful.

Re:But Mozilla still has some weaknesses

[Captain Large Face]

You can simulate the MS experience (this is a platform-independent tip, BTW) by closing down your browser half way through an important task. I recommend halfway through online banking (works for me). Also, try altering your firewall to allow some moderate security breaches. You'll soon feel right at home.

Re:But Mozilla still has some weaknesses

[SmileyBen]

So long as you're happy to use tabs to hold your news sites (which most people love after about three days usage):

1) Open each site in a tab.
2) Click Bookmarks | Bookmark this group of tabs.
3) Place resulting bookmark on your personal toolbar.

That funky graph

[Zaffle]

I just want to know what program they used to generate that funky milestone graph. Anyone know?

Re:That funky graph

[asa]

I just want to know what program they used to generate that funky [mozilla.org] milestone graph. Anyone know?

I used a combination of Paint Shop Pro and the Gimp. I'm actually interested in finding some kind of CVS graph program that would generate a picture like this from CVS data. It obviously wouldn't be able to predict the future but it should be able to build an image of CVS activity (branches, checkin volume, tags, etc). I have tried in the past to take some cvs measurements and use checkin volume to determine the thickness of the branch lines but it was just too much effort. If something like that could be done programatically I'd be as happy as a pig in shit. :)

--Asa

Re: That's sarcasm, right?

[Antity]

There is a way to open tabs "in the background":

Preferences->Navigator->Tabbed_Browsing->Load_li nks_In_The_Background

(Space inserted by Slashcode.)

Re:Tab bar issues in Mozilla 1.1

[Aanallein]

why do tabs now have to close left to right, prey tell?

Because this allows for hugely more efficient browsing if you follow more than one link per page.
Imagine googling for a specific subject. You open the first five links and keep the results page open for further searching if by some strange impossibility the first five results werent what you're looking for. So now you hit ctrl-pagedown to go to the next tab, which has the first search result. You quickly glance over the page but it isn't what you were looking for. ctrl-w closes the tab.
Now with the old behaviour, the tab to the left would be focused. But you don't want that tab! You want the next result. So you have to manually focus the next tab again (oh, bother). And when you close that one, the same friggin first tab focuses and you once more have to manually go to the next one...
With the new behaviour however, the tab to the right gets the focus - when you're done with the first search result and close the tab - the second search result shows. And when you're done with that one, the third one shows. No other actions needed than closing tabs.

Imagine the use of this for reading forums, or archived mailinglists, or... well, everything that consists of a collection of links where it matters in which order you read them. Yes, it is somewhat disconcerting to see the behaviour change like that when you were used to the old way - but change is good! Give it a few minutes, really try to see the use of it, and you'll almsot certainly come to see that the new way to do this is a vast improvement.

The Only Thing Else I Want

[Quila]

Please, please, please can I have the ability to rearrange the bookmarks live as in IE, rather than going to the bookmark editor every time.

Re:Wrong forum, but I'll ask anyhow

[re-Verse]

The Customizing mozilla page is also very useful. You can change nearly everything from there.

Customizing Mozilla

Mozilla theme

[weird mehgny]

Get this theme. Very, very smooth and clean. Several amplitudes better than the default theme. It's surprising that Mozilla doesn't come with this supplied as a standard...

easy to fix!

[Felipe Hoffa]

Remember its open source, you can adapt it to your own needs.

Just take the file piemenu.js in mozilla/chrome/radialcontext/content and change this line:

this.labelTrigger= setTimeout("PieMenu.prototype.act.showLabels();", 900);

The timeout is fixed in 900 by default, you can make it lower.

While you are there you can find a lot of options, just don't be afraid to try.

Fh

Re:Dynamically enable/disable plugins

[asa]

Try Jesse's Zap embeds bookmarklet. It's not perfect but I've come to depend on it. Just add the bookmarklet to your personal toolbar and whenever you visit a site with an annoying flash ad or java plugin just bonk on the personal toolbar link and the plugin gets zapped.

There are lots of great bookmarklets at Jesse's site. Take a look around and give some of them a try. I couldn't get by without them.

--Asa

Re:Source code tarball?!

[asa]

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/releases/mozill a1.1/

If it's not there yet then it's not done yet. Check back later today.

--Asa

Re:Is this version more buggy?

[asa]

Clean install doesn't touch your bookmarks and if you installed your plugins into your profile directory you'd be able to hold onto them (or just back up your plugins dir. if you're reading slashdot you should be able to do that).

--Asa

Need integration with external e-mail

[KjetilK]

I'm running Opera, Mozilla and Konqi every day on my box now, and I really can't decide between them. Opera is a bit unstable and unfree, Konqi doesn't have tabbed browsing (will soon), and lacks a few other nice features too.

Mozilla lacks something very important: It doesn't work smoothly with KMail which is my mail program of choice right now.

Mozilla really needs to integrate well with other applications. Most importantly, it really needs a way to launch an application when users click on a mailto-link. This is bug 11459.

Also quite important is that you can launch Mozilla and have it open a new tab (not window) from other applications. This is Bug 104204.

I would encourage everybody to join in to get this working! :-)

Re:A requested feature by little ol me

[bluephone]

Try PrefBar over at XULplanet. It has exactly what you're looking for.