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Nokia 3650 Symbian Imaging-phone
Ch_Omega writes "Nokia have announced a new cameraphone in the, traditionally low-cost, 3xxx-series. Surprisingly enough, it seems to have the same functionality as the Nokia 7650, as well as tri-band, MMC-expansion slot, and abillity to capture video as well as still images. The new smartphone has been given the name Nokia 3650, which, according to this article indicates that it will be much cheaper than the 7650, while actually being superior feature-wise!"
This is the kind of Sybian Phone that I want.
Symbian doesn't just make a rock-solid OS for phones, they also have a slew of other high-tech products.
Because not everyone can afford to pay $400 for a cell phone?
They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty nor security
I still don't get this. It's like combining a nose hair trimmer with a toothbrush - sure you could combine those, but why would anyone want to?
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why are we going back to rotary?
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I have the 8890 right now and while I like it, I would like something new.
I like the look of this phone if it is going to look like what the link showed.
There are some odd things afoot now, in the Villa Straylight.
It's like combining a nose hair trimmer with a toothbrush
Do you meant to say that you carry a nose hair trimmer and a toothbrush with you at all times?
Kinky.
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What's the deal on the phone from the Matrix? I know they built one where a piece of plastic covers the mouth part and you slide it down by hand, but did they ever make a spring-loaded one?
Finally, math books without any of that base 6 crap in them.
I realize I am bucking the trend here, but what I really want to see is less of this combo crap and more SINGLE FUNCTION devices (and software apps, for that matter) that do one major thing and do it extremely well.
For example:
Internet suites suck. I want a stand alone email program that just does email and does an amazing job of it. I want a stand alone newsreader for usenet. I want a stand alone browser. I want a stand alone IM program (which, incidentally, talks to anyone on any IM network of course).
I want a PDA that does an amazing job at being a PDA. It doesn't need to do MP3s. It doesn't need to take (or show) pictures. It doesn't need to operate as my TV remote or my garage door opener.
I want a printer that just PRINTS. Has anyone noticed the complete LACK of innovation in the printer space? Why haven't color LASER printers at 10+ page per minute speed come to the consumer level ($200 and under). All we get are a variety of inkjet printers with various extra features tacked on (fax, scan, etc). They do a crappy job of scanning and a crappy job of faxing (of course, fax machines are all crap and it is a technology that needs to die, but that is a whole different matter).
I want my scanner to scan. I want my fax to fax (I actually want it to die, but I really shouldn't keep getting distracted by my fax hatred). I want my printer to PRINT.
Is this too much to ask? Combo devices generally do everything poorly. I would rather have devices that do ONE thing and do it GREAT.
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They english translation says that it's targeted at European, Asian and North American markets however, being a 3-band GSM it means that it'll work quite everywhere in the world except in Japan: all across Africa for example, and in South America too.
As in the original article it'll be initially marketed in those 3 continents, but nothing prevents it from being sold and used anywhere else.
Curiously enough, non-GSM users are left out for now. Hopefully, at least in the North-American continent, the (late) conversion to GSM by AT&T will speed up the conversion of the last 30% of the world maket to the dominant global standard.
I don't know about you, but I've droped my cell phone into lakes too often to want an expensive one. (it was in my pocket when I fell overboard last time) Sure I recover it, but I haven't had success getting them to work after than.
Combine that with new features coming out all the time, and I'm not sure I want an expensive one. As others have noted, this cheap phone looks better feature wise than a more expensive older model.
Or to put it a different way: why spend money on an expensive phone when I can get a cheap one, and the next model will be better?
"Dude! Check it out! This pickle slice looks like Elvis! Hey! Nooo! ..Ahhhhhhhhhhhh.....!"*CRASH*
Sounds like I'll be telecommuting.
And they are pretty nice in real life. One of my friend's dad works at Nokia and now has one of these phones and boy is it nice. The keypad is weird at first, but apparently a represtative sample of text-messagers in the UK said that the keypad was better than the regular style once you get the hang of it. The one strange thing, though, is that there's no cover over the lense (well there is but it's transparant and perminantly there and permenantly open to scratches). At first I was a little paranoid about this but apparently they tested it by literally scrubbing it with sandpaper for half an hour and not a scratch! It's also impervious to keys and change in your pocket - the only way to seriously damage it is to take a scalpal to it! The software on the phone was all development/old versions but it's going to have RealOne and, apparently, real internet browsing (Has God answered the prayer's of millions? Is W@P dead?) and other goodies. The phone has the usual Nokia tactile feel, though perhaps a little more plasticy than previous phones (think transition from Palm III to M100 without the shambolic hardware issues). And generally is pretty sweet. I can't wait to see the polished production version!!!
Nokia makes the best phones on the market. Period. I've owned Siemens, Motorola and four Nokias - I've tried the Sony Ericsson T68i, Ericsson (old ones) and a few others (like Bosch etc) - NONE of them are as good as the Nokia - they simply have the best user interface - menu system - of them all. On advanced phones the menu system is very important - And none beats the nokias.
The only thing that I regret about the new phones, is that they no longer have the "IntelliKey" - that was a good!
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in short, the features you want are: ;)
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The least they could have done is arranged the circular buttons in clockwise order so that they'd be layed out in a way similar to the old rotary-dial phones.
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i agree. i have made the mistake of buying many products because they were inexpensive, even though reviews told me that the product was shit. You know what i found out, exactly what the word cheap really means.
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I hope you were trolling....because if you think a PDA is a useless addon for a cell phone...you are dead wrong.
Why carry 2 devices of aproximately the same form factor....with overlapping functions?
Whats the easiest way to update the contacts in your phone? Buy a $40+ cable, wait 5-10 years for a 'standard' wireless transfer protocol and content format, or combine them?
Why carry two seperate devices that both have support for: email, contact managament, web browsing, game playing, data/fax. Combine them!
(BTW, I think my Samsung I-300 is the single most useful electronic device I have every purchased)
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You don't sound like a habitual cellphone user. I am one, and I can tell you that I have developed a scary reliance on a number of features (SMS messaging, the built in alarm clock, caller-ID-associative ringtones, tetris, etc) - all developed after your 10 number speed dial. There is nothing I wish for more than a completely integrated PDA/phone/camera/mp3 player/web browser, etc.
;-). Ericsson's P800 is due out early next year (revised date), with all those features - and MPEG4, Java, everything crammable into a 150mhz ARM processor with 16mb memory.
And guess what - it's coming soon (RSN
Check it out
I know it's what I've dreamed of, and I bet you that many other (geek and non-geek) people have dreamt of it too.
Let's say you want 5" x 7" prints of your photos. At 640 x 480, the pixels per inch will be 640/7 or 91 ppi horizontal, 480/5 or 96 ppi vertical.
With my Nikkon 775 which was around $300, I get 1600 x 1200 resolution. This gives me 228 ppi horizontal, 240 ppi vertical.
You approach photorealistic quality at 300 ppi. If I were to get 5 by 7 prints, the photos your camera would produce wouldn't be tolerable. Not even talking about the fact that my camera uses 32 bit color.
Add in the fact that it probably doesn't have flash and other nice camera features like red eye, etc... you'll have to conclude that it's no replacement for a digital camera.
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Of course it doesn't hurt. There's only one key, to his mom's garage. With all the money spent on hot gadgets, he can't afford anything else like a house or car that requires a key.
numbers when in someone's pocket or bag. Sometimes this occurs
during incriminating or embarrassing situations, and typically
the number on the other end will be a friend or relative since
they are going to be the last dialed number, or someone on a
speed dial entry.
Now pause for a moment, and imagine the implications of a
video-cellphone accidently dialing your parents at a bad
time...
On a more serious note, I've also read about cell phones being
used intentionally for this sort of spying. Ones that can
auto-answer calls silently are inconspicuously left in a board
room or someone's office, and then later, can be called in order
to eavesdrop.
They typcially dont raise any concerns because, hey "Its just a
cell phone, someone probably forgot it, and will come back to get
it".
Now... adding video to the technique may prove to be interesting
or problematic (depending on which side you are on).
A cell phone named "Symbian".. Small enough to fit you-know-where, and vibrate.
My culture has destroyed itself.
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And there, in a nutshell, you have the reason why this phone exists.
Basically, my Ericsson T39m (to take a random example) is everything I could possibly need in a phone. It works as a phone, all over the world. It talks to my Palm or my PC, and I can use it for data. GPRS if I want hi speed data. Simple games too for boring moments. Very sophisticated memory; I could use it as my contact manager if I didn't prefer my Palm. SMS make it a sper alpha pager too. It's tiny. It looks nice.
So, what can the company offer me to make me buy a different new phone? Well, technically, all they can add is battery life, but we're at the technological limit for that. So, all they can do to persuade me to get a new phone is to put fancy crap into it, such as a camera + MMS so i can send crappy photos about. Or a mp3 player, or a radio, or a thumbboard so I can type messages faster, anything to persuade me that I need a new phone.
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When you first use this phone you are able to dial numbers. Why? because the digits are on each buttons, and you just hunt-and-peck your way along. But the real beauty of this UI is for expert users, and everyone is an expert user of their cellphone. By arranging the buttons radially, you have a much easier time dialing blindly. Check out the keypad, there's a nice buttonless space for your thumb to go when you grab the phone in your pocket. From there, each button is easily naviagble. In fact, it's somewhat similar to mozilla's pie menus. They're going for ease of use while dialing blindly, and they know that whoever get's this as their phone will have more than enough time to become an expert at using it. That's because people use it every day. Handspring made the mistake of not enabling blind dialing in their Treo phone. Because the touch screen has no texture, it's impossible to find the buttons without looking.
So don't look at the nokia layout as an attmpt to be retro or to emulate a rotary phone, they're trying to make it easy for people to effortlessly use thier phone without looking. And there's no reason to stick to the 3x4 layout. Most cellphones' buttons are so different in size anyways that it's impossible to blind dial one after constantly using another. Therefore, they might as well rearrange them completely.
How about a cellphone on a pcmcia card. Maybe with an optional bluetooth interface for the head set. Then I could plug it into a PDA, a laptop, or mabe a plain phone chassis.
When I first read the subject of this, I thought it said Simian Imaging phone. I thought this was one of those fancy phones for picture taking monkeys and I knew that this had to be part of the evil Ximian conspiracy for the advancement of all apes and ape-like creatures.
You know, the one where they help shape Gnome into a desktop so easy to use that a spidermonkey could take over my job. I thought with a phone for that same monkey, he could soon take over a CxO (where x = E,T,F,O,etc.) position. But then I guess things like Enron would be a little bit easier to catch early on.
Hear that screaming from upstairs?
Yeah, sounds like Pooky the CFO is shredding documents again.
I just got a 3410, and to my grief, I shortly figured the only way to transfer apps to the 3xxx series is through WAP. Unlike the 7xxx series or even the 6xxx series. That is a real drawback for us midlet java programmers :(.
8890 is only dual band - GSM900 and GSM1900 - no GSM1800 support.
Add in the fact that it probably doesn't have flash and other nice camera features like red eye, etc... you'll have to conclude that it's no replacement for a digital camera.
Do even understand that red eye comes from flash? Of course it's not replacement to digi, but it's better than nuffin, and it's always there.
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Huh? What are you talking about? Get YOUR facts straight