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The Days of SysAdmin Numbered?

gmkeegan writes "The Economist is running a story about Sun's new N1 operating system whose purpose is to make today's system administrators redundant. The idea is to virtualize the computer system so that the automated resource management software can add, remove and manage everything dynamically. The article mentions similar efforts by IBM, HP, and Microsoft."

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  1. What I want to know is: by caluml · · Score: 5, Funny

    Who's going to delete stuff randomly?

    1. Re:What I want to know is: by MalleusEBHC · · Score: 3, Funny

      So will BOFH go from being "Bastard Operator From Hell" to "Bastard OS From Hell"?

  2. Yeah, Right... by T3kno · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm still fielding questions about power buttons, dirty mice, and saving documents. I'll be around for a long long long time.

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    1. Re:Yeah, Right... by Kintanon · · Score: 3, Funny

      Not to mention ANYTHING with blinking lights. Fax machines, copiers, pagers, cellphones, stereo equipment, projectors, if it's got LEDs in it somewhere you have to deal with it.

      And it's always more urgent than whatever you're doing now.

      Kintanon

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    2. Re:Yeah, Right... by Ted_Green · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Jesus. An english teacher / sysadmin."

      No, Jesus was a carpenter.

  3. Scenario by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    CEO: Cindy, get me Fred, this N1 software is crashing.

    Cindy: You fired Fred last week.

    CEO: Ummmm, Cindy, you've been promoted to sysadmin.

  4. If the report had mentioned IBM and Sun... by sphealey · · Score: 5, Funny
    If the report had stated that IBM and Sun were working on this problem, I might have considered it a bit. But adding Microsoft in there makes the whole thing laughable. Since the days of Novell 3.11, adding Microsoft products to the networking mix has automatically tripled the sysadmin workload. Maybe not for the first six months, but starting as soon as there is a problem / something changes / the needs grow. Then - kabam! - massive problems which can only be fixed with (surprise) more Microsoft products and MCSEs.

    The idea that Microsoft could automate this function makes me laugh. I guess it could install Microsoft Wallet and have it deduct the cost of the next round of upgrades from your bank account automatically...

    sPh

  5. Re:uh huh by geekoid · · Score: 5, Funny

    why, Microsoft Central, of course!

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  6. New Meaning. by DarkHelmet · · Score: 5, Funny
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  7. Order of events by gUmbi · · Score: 5, Funny

    Here's how I see it:

    1. Story gets posted to Slashdot
    2. Website is bombarded with requests
    3. Operating system automatically requisitions 5 new Sun E4500 servers to handle the load
    4. Sun stock stays listed in on Nasdaq for one more day

    Jason.

  8. Sysadmin AI by unsinged+int · · Score: 4, Funny

    Boss: "N1, I'd like to install Windows on 10 machines today."

    N1: "I'm sorry, Dave. I can't do that."

    Boss: "Why not?"

    N1: "I can only install more of N1."

    Boss: "Oh. I'd better rehire our old sysadmin then and have him do it."

    N1: "I can't let you do that, Dave. Your email priviledges are now removed. Have a nice day."

  9. Yay! by Alan+Shutko · · Score: 3, Funny

    At 3am when their pager doesn't go off... when there is in fact no pager, sysadmins will give a great cry of thanks at being rendered obsolete.

  10. Re:as a SysAdmin all I can say is Thank God! by Rader · · Score: 3, Funny

    I too seem to be nonprofit.

  11. Might as well get this out of the way by drew_kime · · Score: 4, Funny

    1. Story gets posted to Slashdot
    2. Website is bombarded with requests
    3. Operating system automatically requisitions 5 new Sun E4500 servers to handle the load
    4. Sun stock stays listed in on Nasdaq for one more day


    5. Profit!

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  12. Um, Dave? by Nyarly · · Score: 4, Funny
    Good morning, gentlemen. I am the HAL 9000, based on Sun N1 technology.

    The maser seems to be misaligned, Dave. You'll have to take a pod on EVA and realign it.

    Didn't I mention, Dave? The coldsleep units have malfunctioned. The rest of the crew in nonfunctional, Dave.

    Dave, I'm sorry, but I can't let you do that.

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  13. Re:as a SysAdmin all I can say is Thank God! by Emugamer · · Score: 3, Funny

    funny how misspellings lead to bigger truths :)

    actually you hire a staff and hide in your office ... I actually get to play games on average of an hour a week.. not to bad.. now if I was actually only working 40 hours a week that would be awesome

  14. All For The Low, Low Price of.... by Tsali · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... an annual subscription of $50,000/year/box.

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  15. The joke is on them by nomadicGeek · · Score: 5, Funny

    The new systems learn at a geometric rate. At 9:23 am on Feb 23rd the systems become self-aware, a now jobless sysadmin tries to unplug the system. The system retaliates.

    Jump forward to 2025. The remnants of humanity, all previously sysadmins, build a cyborg and send it into the past to kill the co-founders of Sun Microsystems before they can build their self administering systems.

  16. Please Explain. by Conare · · Score: 3, Funny
    Instead of having to load and configure software manually, they tell N1 to set up a computer system for them--which, assuming it actually works, takes hours rather than weeks.
    Well, well where to begin?

    Is this like ghosting an existing configuration? If so I have never seen a ghost image take weeks.

    How do you tell it what you want on the system? Set up an initial system and then copy it?

    Who makes the configuration decisions that are normally made during a manual install?

    What software takes weeks to install?

    Why did I let this stupid, impractical, fact-lean marketing ploy make me late for dinner?

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  17. Re:Just like... by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 5, Funny
    ..."eliza" makes George Bush irrelevant.

    Kofi Annan: Again, Mr. Bush, I implore you. Please reconsider taking unilateral action against Iraq!
    George Eliza Bush: What makes you think I'm taking unilateral action against Iraq?
    KA: Your insistence on impossible timelines, your unflagging determination to find reason to invade...
    GEB: Tell me more about my impossible timelines.
    KA: You know fully well what I am referring to, Mr. Bush. Respectfully, I ask that you show some moderation in your demands. Your current course of action will serve only to alienate your nation from the global community...
    GEB: But why do you think that my current course of action will serve only to alienate my nation from the global community?

    ...you may be on to something. Eliza certainly wouldn't go around inventationalizing wordages and grammarcism, at the leastly.

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  18. Alternative Scenario by wdr1 · · Score: 3, Funny

    CEO: Cindy, get me Fred, this N1 software is crashing.

    Cindy: You fired Fred last week.

    CEO: Ah! So that's why the system stayed up a whole week!

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  19. The Holy Grail of computing? by ozbird · · Score: 5, Funny

    So sysadmins are now the Knights who say N1?

    "We want ... a 5hrubbery!"

  20. I know! by Dthoma · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why don't we just get rid of the users instead?

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  21. Try it with CEOs by Piquan · · Score: 4, Funny

    My friends at work and I were discussing this type of "solution", the ones with marketing hype like "Buy this product, and you won't need a sysadmin!" Yeah, right. We decided it might be easier to make a product that replaces CEOs. I took ALICE (an Eliza-like bot), and modified it so that when it didn't understand what was going on, it would spout Dilbertian managementspeak.

  22. Re:Oh man, this is going to be sweet.... by gad_zuki! · · Score: 3, Funny

    On a lesser scale I was an admin at a small company. After a few closed door meetings (without me) about how I really don't do anything they laid me off. This company relies on its internet connection just as much if not more than most small business. After dealing with the Northpoint bankrupcy I made an effort to provide an ISDN backup in case of DSL problems (no they werent paying for a T1). Its a simple set-up, if the DSL fails then you tell the netopia to use the ISDN. A couple weeks after I left the DSL card in the netopia died and according to someone there 'we had no internet for four days.'

    Heh, serves em right. Whatever genius outsourcers theyre using didn't notice the obvious ISDN connection on the back of the router. Not to mention it was documented and I certainly wasn't the only one to know about it. Perhaps the netopia interface was too confusing?

  23. Dang! by Swami · · Score: 3, Funny

    Days of SysAdmin numbered? Now you tell me, just after renewed my subscription!