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Nokia 7650 Modified to Record Video Clips

rocannon writes "T-Mobile has started offering MPEG4 video messaging on the Nokia 7650 with a modified software created by the Finnish company Hantro. This is the European debut of the service that allows users to record, save and play back video sequences, up to a maximum of 95 Kbs in size, on their mobile phone. Clips can be transmitted and received to/from peers via (MMS) e-mail."

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  1. Now I can... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Email the expression on my face when i get the bill (-:

  2. Yoik! Video ringers! by csmorris · · Score: 4, Funny

    Great. So theoretically, instead of interrupting movies and lectures with an obnoxious rendition of "Bohemian Rhapsody", cell phones can instead play highly compressed scenes from "Can't Hardly Wait."

    --
    I place the blame squarely upon tight pants.
  3. I can understand the appeal... by neksys · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But is 95k worth of video enough to be useful? I mean, even at really low quality, and acknowledging the small resolution of these phones, that still leaves you with quite a short message. On the other hand, the cost of sending that 95k of data to another phone must be high - hell, it costs me a fortune to download a few thousand bytes onto my phone through my web connection.

    1. Re:I can understand the appeal... by tuoppi · · Score: 3, Informative

      At least in here Finland, mobile operators have very different billing schemes. One operator charges only static monthly (very reasonable) cost of GPRS usage, with no limits on data transferred - which is a great way to promote GPRS to public. Some operators on another hand have ridicilously high rates on data transfers, most likely their services are rarely used.

      In practice this means that you will pay the price you are ready to pay for that service.And it is up to economists to figure out what you're ready to pay, not up to you. ;-)

  4. Nokia 6650 by leijona · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Nokia has announced yesterday a new camera phone with ability to record video (and sound) clips, up to 7MB in size [http://www.nokia.com/6650_event/index.html]. It is WCDMA (that's why external antennae, btw) and is capable of (at least) 128kb/s transfer rate in 3G network. It works in GSM networks too, of course, achieving very agreeable transfer rates using GPRS.

    Of course, it supports MMS, polyphonic ringing tones, Bluetooth and what-have-you. Large color screen, hefty weight and unbelievable stand-by time.

    Do you notice, btw, that phones grow bigger in size nowsdays?

  5. I think I should be the first to point out... by dknj · · Score: 4, Informative

    That you can fit decent quality movie clips into a 95kb file. Original article here

    -dk

  6. More about the features of 6650 by jukal · · Score: 4, Informative
    6650 product page:

    - Weight: 141 g
    - Dimensions: 132 x 52 x 25 mm
    - Talktime: 2 h 20 min (WCDMA), 2 h 40 min (GSM)
    - Standby time: Up to 350 h
    - Key features: Integrated camera for taking video and still images, new WCDMA air interface, fast connection: up to 128 kbps, multimedia messaging (MMS), large graphical color display, multitasking: talk and send simultaneously
    - Operating frequency: Tri-band mobile phone for WCDMA and GSM 900/1800 networks
    - Imaging resolution: Image/video capture at 640x480/128x96, more than 10 frames/second

    Full specifications are here.

    So althought the product from Hantro is interesting, it seems to unfortunately have entered the market 6-12 months too late to do a difference. These (and better) capabilities will be a standard feature too soon.

  7. 7650 Camera Resolution by Joel+Rowbottom · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Resolution on the 7650 is pants. Don't expect anything spectacular ;)


    Photos using the Nokia 7650 can be viewed at nokia7650.fotopic.net


    I'll try and get round to installing this video stuff and do some messing though. The 7650's not a bad phone, pity Nokia's SDK sucks so much.

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    Smegma.
  8. Great... by sillydragon · · Score: 3, Funny

    Great, I can just see it now... You call in sick to work...

    *ring*
    Yeah, hi, I'm not going to be able to make it in to work today because I strained my *sound of fingers accidentally hitting button*

    *Picture of you standing on beach appears on boss' cell*

    Beach? What beach?? No, seriously! Fired? What? Hello? Hello?!

  9. One step closer..... by sawilson · · Score: 5, Interesting

    to a realistic portable personal concealable full
    motion video device. I can't wait. Especially
    when the video is automatically shot through the
    air to somewhere else and can't be taken away,
    destroyed, etc. So many good uses:

    #1 When your girlfriend calls you a liar about
    where you've been

    #2 When the cop lies about what he said and did
    in traffic court

    #3 When your boss tries to take credit for
    something you did

    #4 When that coworker gets fitshaced at the
    office party

    #5 etc.

    You get the idea.

  10. Re:But Why Will This Be Used? by jukal · · Score: 3, Insightful
    > Videophones have been an abysmal failure in direct wired connections. Why would this feature be popular for cell phones?

    Because no-one is interested in walking to a certain FIXED place, and wonder out how on the earth THIS SPECIFIC videomeeting thing works. When those services are available on your pocket, through a relatively simple and relatively standardized interfaces, you might actually use it. Also, I don't believe their main use will be as video"phones", instead they will be used to send images and videoclips. Atleast I never have a camera with me when I would have needed it.

  11. Re:95 Kbs in *size*? by AftanGustur · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Nope, that is the size. The standard for MMS multimedia messaging restricts the size of any message to 100kb

    The unit 'Kilo' in physics, meaning 1000, is written 'k'
    The unit 'Kilo', in CS, meaning 1024 is written 'K'
    Bytes is written 'B'
    bits is written 'b'
    Seconds is written as 's' or '/s' as in 'per second'

    Then, 95Kbs is logical to interpret as 95Kilobits per second, and that, my dear watson, is a unit for streaming capacity.

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    echo '[q]sa[ln0=aln80~Psnlbx]16isb572CCB9AE9DB03273snlbxq' |dc
  12. One wonders by CaptainZapp · · Score: 3, Insightful
    If MMS will really ever fly.

    The Neue Zurcher Zeitung, which features one of the best Media & IT section from any German speaking newspaper tested the MMS (Multimedia Messaging Service) capabilities of the 7650 and the Ericsson T68i three weeks ago.

    In a nutshell: It sometimes works. But only if the sender and the receiver both have the same phone. If you have the T68i and I send you an MMS from a Nokia you either get gibberish or nothing at all.

    If we have the same phones we also better be with the same carrier, otherwise: see above. Regardless of success you're anyway billed 55euro-cents per message.

    After WAP and some exorbitantly overpriced UMTS licenses mobile services could see their third Waterloo here by giving up simplicity and standards and bloating those devices with extremely complex and buggy sub systems, for which they weren't designed for in the first place.

    The beauty of SMS lies in its simplicity and its standardization (partially basterdized by carriers in the US), which is adhered to throughout the European GSM network. Adding crappy features that nobody wants or needs and that rarely function the carriers and manufacturers do themselves a disservice.

    Besides, I don't think that the business user (the one generating the most revenue) is very interested in sending 95KB video clips (or fotos for that matter) around the world. The guy wants a reliable phone, which is connected without hiccups after leaving the plane in Basel, Barcelona or Bangalore.

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    ich bin der musikant

    mit taschenrechner in der hand

    kraftwerk