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The Internet Society Will Manage .org
ahpeterson writes "The ICANN board just decided to hand control of the .org domain over to the Internet Society. You can read more about their bid here. Whee, no more VeriSign in .org!"
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Does anyone want to explain what this would mean for my .org domain? I actually own several others, but is it going to move to a non-profit only kind of domain, or will they still be available for anyone?
They have absolutely nothing to do with the subject matter! The fact that .org is being handed over has to be a good thing.
So... with VeriSign out of the .org biz, who will send me "domain renewal" reminders 11 months before my .org domains are due to expire?
chown -R us
"VeriSign will continue to profit from .org as it owns a small interest in the company that will run the back end of the database for the Internet Society."
Do you think Verisign is really out of it? I doubt it if they have a financial stake in the Internet Society's future decisions. I'll be curious how Verisign tries to slowly gain more and more authority in the background.
I hate Verisign. I was really afraid that ICANN wouldn't grant this proposal. (In their own special brand of wisdom.) I am a happy .org owner.
-jasons
With this decision they will apparently be deciding if and when an actual non-profit organization can have a .org domain(what the top-level domain was designed for) and stop companies from buying .org addrs to go with their net and com ones.
.org domains. Hopefully the ICANN will properly saction org domains and not try to hurt people using them now. Or for profit companys who need to use them.
However this also poses a domain squatting and slanderous sites to be able to have domains like microsoft.org for instance(i of course like microsoft as little as the next guy) but if someone owns the site a mistyped url could hurt smaller businesses, and geniune orginzations who should have the
"The secret of success is to know something nobody else knows." -Aristotle Onassis
Thanks to this being slashdotted after almost 10 minutes, I'm left wondering what this means for my domain. I'm not officially a non-profit, but I sure as hell don't make any money off of my crappy domain, so what does this mean for me? What sort of power do these folks have?
:)
Shouldn't slashdot be a little nicer to them then killing their server?
ICANN is like the US Government: Give it jurisdiction over something and it appoints a commity to discuss the feasability of appointing a subcommity to plan the eventual migration to a senate panel on how to properly disperse the powers to multiple groups and organizations that should control the board that appoints the group.....
I love America...
"It's not stealing if you don't get caught!"
This could be a bad thing considering that their current website (www.isoc.org) is currently slashdotted to death. One would hope that somebody in their purchasing department is actively ordering more bandwidth and servers to handle the long term load.
LongTail SSH Brute Force analysis tool is here!
Now how long before we can get them out of
I don't quite understand this. Why does the article sound so upbeat and happy? In this article, user timothy writes "mesozoic points out that ISOC is a non-profit organization composed of many for-profit heavyweights, writing "ICANN has issued a report recommending that ISOC run the .org TLD... ISOC is a non-profit organization composed of many for-profit heavyweights, writing "I'm not surprised; are you?" This preliminary report may be disappointing to those who hoped that Paul Vixie and Carl Malamud would be successful in their bid to head up .org."
Slashdot, I never would have expected doublespeak from you! *sniff* I trusted you.
Read the fucking links.
It is open to anybody.
Now, now, don't be mean. Let me list other things you shouldn't do:
Point out that the original poster is lazy, or a moron, or functionally illiterate, or a karma whore.
Complain about the moderation system by posting sarcastic responses like:
I'm lost. Where am I? What is the article about? Where do I click my mouse, in order to read it? Someone come over to my house and read it to me. I expect a new category (score: 6) to be introduced, my ignorance is so praiseworthy.
Also! Never point out that you're karma capped. It's offtopic.
The good and new comes from no quarter where it is looked for, and is always something different from what is expected.
No more Verisign is something that many will be very, very happy about, but any "big" change in "the way things are done" often hurts before it gets better.
Let's hope that the transition is as painless as possible.
Google's cache of the second link.
The good and new comes from no quarter where it is looked for, and is always something different from what is expected.
Does this mean I can repurchase n64.org, the domain which Nintendo so rudely took away from me by sending their lawyers after me, back when I was 15??
you applaud that ?
.info operator AFFILIAS (a privately held for profit company owned by - among others - Verisign) while grabbing a part of the revenues for whatever club activities they deem worthy.
The ISOC proposal is a shameless money-grab. They are contracting out the actual work to
This is the very same ISOC that got its bid approved by an evaluation comitee which judged principial Bind developer and internet pioneer Paul Vixie and his coworkers to be technically incompetent to run a registry - ISOC should be ashamed (and refuse) to accept that approval at all !
The whole thing is a farce....
...is that the members of the board are not elected. We're always babbling about democracy (or lack of it), and how our congressmen are paid by corporations to do their bidding.
This is already happening with ICANN. Remember the Karl Auerbach incident?
For all we know, this might just be a temporary measure, and that Verisign has already secured a deal which will go into effect in the future.
Just something to think about...
And then it became a nominal charge. Now they've all been registered so you have to deal with a former soviet republic or an undiscovered island to get your own domain.
The ISOC plan is an shameless all-out money-grab.
ISOC is largely made up of corporate interests, and will represent corporate interests, not the interests of the real internet community. You can expect corporations to be stealing domains from people alot easier now; AOL will easily be able to steal any domain name which someone paid for which contains "aol" in its name.
The problem with this decision is that it is completely illegitimate. Only 5 of the current ICANN members were elected; the rest were appointed by corporate interests. They have no legitimacy.
The only way ICANN can have legitimacy is if EVERY board member is elected by the internet community in a fair election. Until then, they're just a bunch of information-nazi's.
social sciences can never use experience to verify their statemen
. . . think it's totally fucking awesome that a Klerck post is sitting at +5? I mean, I know I'm easily amused and all, but damn, that's the funniest thing I've seen all day. :)
Al Qaeda has ninjas!
Maybe... .org!"
.org as it owns a small interest in the company that will run the back end of the database for the Internet Society."
"Whee, no more VeriSign in
or maybe not...
"VeriSign will continue to profit from
Not that I'm a pessimist or anything...
They would almost certainly grandfather every current .org owner if they went to a system that restricted .org names. Similar to how .edu is much stricter (requires accredidation from certain places) than it used to be. Groups that already had an .edu prior can keep it.
What kind of service can they provide to millions of DNS requests a second and thousands of .ORG customers coming to manage their domains, if their site is inaccessible, apparently due to being "slashdotted"?
VeriSign is evil and onerous, but at least it (as well, as any other operating registrar) is up and running. Let's hope these guys get their act together...
From Press Release .INFO top-level domain (TLD), will provide PIR with a full range of back-end registry services to support .ORG.
.INFO?
Afilias Limited, a global domain name registry services provider and current registry operator of the
Uhhh.. didn't Afilias has a boat load of problems when they launched
Obligatory Moronic Business Plan:
314-15-9265
Did anyone else misread this story as "The Internet Society Will Manage .OGG"?
slashdot.info just brings up the newsforge page. That's owned by OSDN - like slashdot.
Is there some relationship between OSDN and zdnet?
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slashdot.info is NOT in fact owned by Z-D, but by Nathaniel Wilkerson of Orem, UT. The web server randomly picks other internet sites to masquerade as. When I went, it was E! Online, a couple more refreshes later, it was CNet, and on to a few other sites. Very interesting. I know the UDRP is against slashdot's religion, but, no time like the present to get the name back from someone who's clearly using it in bad faith.
So it seems that those of us who sell PostgreSQL to client will have an easy answer for whether or not it can scale.
talli
Maybe it's time for ISOC to fix their own domain isoc.org then? Two lame delegations out of three leaves only one nameserver. Not the good example they should provide I guess...
$ host -C isoc.org
isoc.org NS NS.ISI.EDU
www.isoc.org admin.www.isoc.org (2002062813 10800 3600 604800 86400)
*** isoc.org SOA record at NS.ISI.EDU is not authoritative
isoc.org has lame delegation to NS.ISI.EDU
!!! isoc.org SOA primary www.isoc.org is not advertised via NS
isoc.org NS INFO.isoc.org
www.isoc.org admin.www.isoc.org (2002062813 10800 3600 604800 86400)
isoc.org NS NS.UU.NET
isoc.org SOA record currently not present at NS.UU.NET
isoc.org has lame delegation to NS.UU.NET
If you are going to bash my nintendo site, go see it as it really was, still hosted, and paid for by me... http://www.livxtrm.com/n64 It hasn't changed in ages, but people still seem to like it a lot.
As they already do for .info. This is cool because the bid was head-to-head against contractors spec'ing Oracle and came despite Oracle submitting comments during the review process that claimed that no Open Source RDBMS would be up to the task.
Yeah. they're not going to go after us for having .orgs and not being non profit are they? I only have kyrn.org because the .com was taken.
Wow.
Impressive. Not only do you singularly manage to spell the name of the PostgreSQL database software wrong everywhere, you also get every fact *wrong*.
Smells like an Oracle PR employee.
washingtonpost.com's story on the dot-org decision is online here.
The costs of dispute resolution are likely to be much higher than the costs of registry servers - the monthly cost of a couple of hosted machines is less than the cost of a couple hours of lawyer time.
Bill Stewart
New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
...and vice versa.
Who the hell cares except a) the IRS and b) people who think profit is inherently evil and plan to shoot all profiteers.
Oh no! Billy's tree house club is mowing lawns and fixing bicycles! Call the UN!
>80 column hard wrapped e-mail is not a sign of intelligent
>life
THey're not gonna go after the people with .orgs that aren't not for proffit now are they?
catgirls and fairies
Ummmmm, yeah stock market tends to go down when there are disasters. The president does not control whether people feel like selling thier stocks or not, nor whether companies like Enron are run by A-holes. Please get your head out of the whole of liberal dogma.
I you're one of the people who said they would leave the country if Bush won, then go away already and quit annoying the rest of us. I keep wondering why all those people are still here. Maybe it's not so bad eh?
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