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US Secrecy Efforts Hurting Scientific Research

EnlightenmentFan writes "The new, ultra-vague category "sensitive but unclassified" is being used to stop publication of research, according to this NY Times article (Registration required, but it's free). Bruce Alberts (President, National Academy of Sciences), William A. Wulf (President, National Academy of Engineering), and Harvey V. Fineberg (President, Institute of Medicine) made a joint statement after bureaucrats declared a major NAS report on bioterrorism unpublishable."

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  1. Wow by jmv · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Time to change the name to "People's Republic of the United States"...

  2. Cliff Stoll by jonman_d · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Anyone read the Cookoo's Egg (by Clifford Stoll) lately? He briefly talks about "Sensitive but unclassified" and how it was a problem back then (read the book) when they LACKED such a definition, and the need for one.

    So I guess there's another side to the arguement...who would've thought?

  3. Sensitive but unclassified come on by bl968 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Any time you limit speech by placing restrictions on access to information you thus are classifying it. It does not matter that you do not stamp it TOP SECRET if you do not make the information available for public comment and use. This would also be a easy way to hide fraud and abuse from the public eye by making it a breech of ethics to release the information on frivolous but sensitive research.

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    1. Re:Sensitive but unclassified come on by Raiford · · Score: 5, Insightful
      You have hit upon a point that begs some further analysis. You are absolutely right in your statement that the "sensitive but unclassified" caveat (that's what those things are called by classification authorites) is indeed a defacto means of classifying information. The problem is more insidious than you might think. Under regular classified information (confidential, secret and top secret) and their associated caveats, a prescribed level of protection and rules must be applied to the information. This translates to security containers, custodial inventories and legal bounds about what can and cannot be classified (meaning you can't just classify something to avoid FOIA requests). Additionally the handling procedures and custodial involvement gets pretty expensive.

      Now the "sensitive but unclassified" caveat has none of those requirement and hence none of the traditional restrictions which prevent abuse on the side of classification authorities. Now information can be withheld with impunity without any real accountability.

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  4. The One thing the "war" on terror has taught us: by Valar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The most terrifying terrorist act is the threat of a terrorist act.

  5. Default assumption... by alizard · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There are very few places where "security by obscurity" works to protect anyone but the bad guys. If I were a farmer, I might find that report of great personal interest. If I know of a security problem, I might be able to do something about it. Or at least knowing what's on my farm and its surroundings, to know exactly what kind of help to buy or ask for from the Feds. Some answers might be as close as one's county agricultural agent, if one knows what questions to ask.

    Let's put it this way, how would you feel as a netadmin if BugTraq suddenly became "unclassified but sensitive"?

    Should the "War on Terrorism" ever become more serious than "The War on Some Drugs", i.e. more than inconveniece for the average American and an excuse to peck away at more civil liberties of the sort that the terrorist also want to see disappear, the front line of the war starts where we are sitting, we're going to have to protect ourselves, and the most important defense in this kind of war is accurate information.

    Information, i.e. the stuff that Big Brother has decided is none of the public business.

  6. The knees are still jerking by clemfoley · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It is quite obvious that the US government is trying to keep America on terrorist alert for as long as they can. By having the "terrorists" disrupting the American way of life in every area possible, ensures public support for the Bush war effort.

    This is overkill!

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  7. Re:this is a very old dilemma by mentin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem is not existance of sensitive information, the problem is who and how defines what is sensitive. Everybody (well, most) are OK with existance of classified information (created by military or intelligence, as in your case). But when not classified information (i.e. one that was obtained without access to any military secrets or other classified info) becomes "sensitive" and prohibited from publishing, this is an issue.

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  8. Hrm by Crasoum · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The tensions began early this year as the Bush administration began taking wide measures to tighten scientific secrecy in hopes of keeping terrorists from obtaining weapons of mass destruction. In January, the administration quietly began withdrawing from public release more than 6,600 technical documents that dealt mainly with the production of germ and chemical weapons.

    Haven't we learned by now, that the terrorists already -have- the weapons of mass destruction they need? Faith in their government, ambition, and follow through.

    So how much faith in your government, ambition, and follow through do you have?

  9. Re:Science? by Ryu2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unfortuantely, for many academic institutions, even private ones, federal funding provides a significant chunk of operating revenue (at my school, a major private research university, it's 25% or so).

    If the feds didn't like what you were publishing, maybe it couldn't censor it directly without going to great legal lengths, but what it could do and probably would do is withhold federal funding. That would mean financial disaster for any institution. It's almost virtual financial blackmail.

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  10. I don't think you get it ... by Tensor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The WHOLE point of terrorist attacks is to make ppl live in fear, terrified.

    The attack/act/threat per-se is not the important thing.

    That is why the attack on 09-11 (and the post anthrax threat) was SO effective, it shook ppl out of the safety they lived in into a world of terror. It "made" media blow things up out of proportion to feed that fear. More than 1000 times the deaths of the so called "anthrax threat" are killed every month in violent crimes in the US, so which one is a greater threat, and which one got more publicity, and which one made ppl afraid ?

    Do you see it ?

    1. Re:I don't think you get it ... by packeteer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What really get me is this sniper. Hes killed almost a dozen, maybe more by tonight because i dont follow it every day. But its insane people are canceling trips to the area because of this. Dont they realize they are more likely to die on the airplane (which is slim chances alread)? And jesus christ if they are going to be that safe they better not get NEAR a car. I mean holy god in heaven cars kills bazillions of times the number of peopel snipers do. Its the media nad the fear that gets us. It would not cause a problem in most peoples lives if they didn't let it. But now this has caused trouble for people around the world and the worst part is this; its not even making them safer.

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  11. Use a stupid fake reg. Stop copying & postin by fortinbras47 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Qouting the NY Times copyright notice:

    All materials contained on this site are protected by United States copyright law and may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, displayed, published or broadcast without the prior written permission of The New York Times Company. You may not alter or remove any trademark, copyright or other notice from copies of the content.

    However, you may download material from The New York Times on the Web (one machine readable copy and one print copy per page) for your personal, noncommercial use only.

    C'mon people. It's not that hard to use a stupid free registration. The Wall Street Journal has a subscription cost, the Economist has a subscription for some articles... NY Times doesn't HAVE to provide free media content, so don't blatantly disregard the law when it's so incredibly easy to follow.

  12. Re:this is a very old dilemma by jpmorgan · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Your argument is moot- you're discussing material officially classified as Secret, Top Secret, or in the case of Alan Turing's work Ultra Secret.

    The problem here is not that the government classifies material for national security, but the 'sensitive, but unclassified' categorization and attempts to browbeat the independent scientific community into not publishing results.

  13. Re:"somewhat wealthy" by hazem · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm not so sure about this. It is true that Saudi Arabia has a vast oil wealth and generates a great deal of income. But this money is hoarded by the royal family and their close associates. The common man, on the other hand, lives a rather poor and meager existence.

    It doesn't help when all these poor, unhappy people see their rich princes and king associating so much with the West, and particularly the US. It isn't a hard case to make; "you're miserable because the royal family is hoarding the money - see, they have been corrupted by the contact with the West".

    I realize that the Saudi hijackers from 9/11 were mostly well-off and not particluarly poor. But, I would imagine that most of the "foot soldiers" of groups like the Taliban and Al Qua'ida are coming from very poor situations, and they can easily (at least in their minds) trace the cause of their poverty to the US and the West.

    Their poverty not a valid reason to kill people, and I'm not in any way justifying their acts of terrorism. But it's very important to try to understand what THEY see as a valid reason and justification.

    Going back to Saudi Arabia and its wealth... That country (and much of the region) is only one tech-revolution away from being destitute. Once somebody figures out how to economically use hydrogen, or develops a workable fusion reactor, the need for oil as a a fuel source will quickly diminish, and much of the Middle East will lose its relevance in a geopolitical sense. Of course, we'll (probably) always need petroleum for lubrication, petro-chemicals, plastics and some fuel, but definitely not in the volumes it is produced and consumed now.

    In that situation, you'll have even more destitute people who will have old hatreds of the West, which will only be fueled by its prosperity and affluence.

  14. Nothing New / FOIA... by lkturner · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As other people have mentioned, sensitive but unclassified is NOT new. But, no one has mentioned the checks and balances in place - namely the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). It's a tool for use by citizens who can request information the federal agencies have not made public. The information is reviewed and some information is not released. I'm guessing that one of the reasons for this category is the additional costs for something to be handled as classified (assumption on my part). Relating it to something most people here are familiar with, computer networks. Would you want someone to have a list of all of your users, their habits, background information on their family, etc? The passwords could be considered "secret", but the other information isn't. An attacker could definitely use the other information to break into your network. It isn't practical to keep the other information "secret", but you can at least tell people not to make a directory containing all that information and send it to the NY Times. Other good examples of sensitive information are unlisted phone numbers, SSNs, etc. This story is just more media hype. Keith

  15. Re:Paging Mr. Kettle... by Zeinfeld · · Score: 5, Insightful
    You know the US has gotten pretty bad when the joke gets modded up.

    I think that the underlying problem is that many people are now as cynical of government motives as during the Watergate crisis.

    There is absolutely nothing an administration can do that is more harmful to national security than to use security classifications for political ends. Unfortunately it is very hard to believe this government when it says 'trust me'.

    They said 'trust me' over the tax cut which would not break the budget, guess what it did. Then again it still claims that the names of the energy companies that paid to take part in Dick Cheney's 'energy taskforce' are privilleged.

    Federal government research that is inconvenient to the administration simply disappears.

    I am less worried by this report than the fact that the director of the CIA is unable to support the claims made by the administration concerning Iraq.

    I am less concerned about the actions of the administration than the fact that the 'liberal-press' appear determined not to ask the obvious questions.

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  16. Interesting... by Endimiao · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How long for a new iron curtain betwen USA and the rest of the world? :) Are we about to see a major North American firewall alike China in the forge? The question in everyones mind is: how far can the current administration in the USA can go?

    P.S: War on Terrorism? Nah.. I smell oil