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Adult Swim Revamps; Removes Most Anime
E. Megas writes "According to a Collegiate Presswire story, Cartoon Network (Probably due to its recent acquisition of Futurama) is expanding its Adult Swim schedule to Monday through Thursday starting January 12th. The "Comedy" block on Sundays will stay, but except for Inu-Yasha and Cowboy Bebop (Which will replace the Toonami Midnight Run block on the weekday slots) the Saturday "Action" block will be gone. This means that the legendary series Mobile Suit Gundam will not be aired in full for the second time in a row on CN. Future airings of Yuu Yuu Hakusho and Outlaw Star-And the planned re-airing of Gundam 0080: War In the Pocket-Are thrown into doubt by this decision as well. More schedule details in the article. (Anyone else as frustrated by this as I am?)"
Same delicious Cartoon Network, now with no MSG!
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I would care if any of the stuff on CN wasn't dubed/edited to death
First of all, CN modifies many anime horribly for content. Entire storylines are sometimes cut out of longer series.
Secondly, if you're already into anime, you can probably find most of the titles they show at the local blockbuster.
Anime has already gone fairly main stream. It's doubtful whether Adult Swim brings in very many new viewers, so I'm not too upset over them, either.
Exactly how is "Mobile Suit Gundam" legendary ? Let us not cheapen words. Its like the newspaper headlines which say that "this is an historic moment for America", for even the most commonplace events.
No.
I wonder if this is a sign that Anime has peaked. The Action channel (Encore) quietly killed their dedicated anime line-up, though they still have it, and now Cartoon Network is removing theirs.
Maybe there's not enough viewer support for broadcast anime, as opposed to just buying it off of DVD...
To be honest, I'd take Futurama over Anime any day of the week. Openly, and readily. Without question. Yes.
I've learned recently that Anime rather annoys me. It's all too cliched these days, what with seeing it every which way you look in some way shape or form.
And then you have the people who know the names of every character from every series and can link every relationship in every way shape or form. And... yeah, that's migrane-inducing after about 10 minutes.
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Because they didn't get the viewers. This means they think there are more people who will watch the new stuff.... and bugger all who would watch the old stuff.
If you want to see it all, go out and buy it...
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Then you should try the short shift we get on Australian CN. Anime at the moment is just repeats of Gundam Wing, DBZ, the two Zoid series and Neon Gen. The newest stuff we have had is Zoids: CC. No Tenchi, no 08th team. While I feel your pain, you have it good!
Cartoon Network may be one of the only places where you can get your anime fix on cable, but their overediting and bad dub jobs are notorious among hardcore fans. I'd much rather watch Futurama than that terrible edited version of Outlaw Star they air, or god forbid, more photoshopped Tenchi.
Maybe they could add a Saturday Action block that was subtitled. Adults can read, right?
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It's probably for the best. This will encourage me to actually go out and buy the DVDs for the shows I like, rather than just tape them off of CN. (And no cutting that way, too)
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Plus, Futurama will find a new home. It is a very underappreciated show, and I'm glad it can be shown somewhere were it will won't be constantly preempted by sports.
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Try Hellsing. Outlawstar is good, but get the subs, and if you're just lookig for something funny, Nadesico wasn't half bad.
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True anime may have showed up here and there in the mainstream, but it lacks the appeal of American we-want-to-sell-toys cartoons, save for a few lousy watered down anime-based shows such as Pokemon, etc.
It's no huge surprise that Cartoon Network is cancelling those shows, as the fanbase in mainstream America simply isn't large enough to support such a small group of Anime fans, as obsessive as they are.
I don't know much about Cartoon Network over in the states, but here in the UK things are actually improving. We now have an extra channel 'CNX' which shows a lot of anime stuff, some live-action movies (lot of hong-kong action movies) and the more adult cartoons that they wouldn't put on the regular channels.
As far as I know, Cowboy Bebop has never been shown in the UK before this channel.
Who cares, as long as they keep "Home Movies" -- it's the funniest and most enjoyable show on television, hands down. Along with the Daily Show, it's one of the last two reasons I keep cable.
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The reason the action block is being removed is that Cartoon Network found that a large number of kids were watching the block. The purpose of 'Adult Swim' was to have animated programming on the air that was aimed at adults. The ratings they were getting said that a lot larger block of kids were watching the Saturday night programming, thus the change to the 'school night' lineup. Granted, they have those unnecessarily long warning, but they have to show this because otherwise stupid parents would complain (and probably did anyway), and because Cartoon Network is still filed under a kids programming station.
The purpose of Adult Swim is to help Cartoon Network transition from kid's programming to an over-all entertainment network. The expansion of the Adult Swim franchise should be seen as a good thing, especially seeing that Futurama will be added to the weekly block. I think there's a lot more of us that will appreciate Futurama having a regular home than those who cared about the animes listed above.
I know I'll sure enjoy seeing Futurama every weeknight, and as long as the Sunday block is left alone, I'll be alright. The real issue with the new schedule that I have is whether Space Ghost is still on the Sunday block or not.
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Can anyone find an email address to contact these people at? I can't seem to find one on their web site.
Not that I'm deluded enough to think that they'll actually care about what I have to say, but the anime geeks at my college were the ones largely responsible for having the campus subscribe to CN, and I have a funny feeling that then the next channel survey comes up, I'm guessing they're going to be rated rather lowly.
And yeah, American cartoons are so much better: Filled with ego-maniacs, stuttering pigs, slurring cats, gender-ambiguous birds, etc., etc. I'm really not a wannabe asian, and saying that anime is a gateway to pedophilia is a little like saying drinking mountain dew is a gateway to cocaine; I do however appreciate a good story ark, and producing shows that are more than degenerate collections of insipid one-liners is something that Americans absolutely suck at.
So anyway, does anyone actually have a contact email address for these guys?
Does it effect the hardcore? No, they've probably got the DVDs, videos, or DiVX copies.
... Why should that be frustrating?
Does it effect the casual fan? No, if you're a casual fan and they stop showing them then it just fades away in your memory. If you really miss it, buy the DVDs or whatever, otherwise just forget it.
The only people I can see this really effecting is the average non-fan whom the anime geeks of the world wish would get wise to anime. The only "frustrating" thing is that anime is no longer as extensively offered to those who don't care for it enough to seek it out.
Just because you LOVE anime, and think anyone with any sense whatsoever SHOULD LOVE anime doesn't mean it's Cartoon Network's duty to expose it to them, and frankly a large segment of western culture will never get into anime, and would much rather watch the Oblongs, Futurama, Undergrads, or whatever. All I'm saying is - Let them.
...Also, I didn't know Buggalo could fly.
Like calling every woman entertainer a "diva". No, Britney Spears is not a "diva".
... So I wouldn't have to be subjected to this foolishness?
So, is the unedited fight between Goku and Freiza 6 seasons long?
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1) Adult Swim Action couldn't possibly have had worse promotion. Note: squeezing as many action clips as possible into 30 seconds does not a good commercial make. That synth-voice sucked. And a little cross-network advertising that actually targeted the right people would have been nice (Sci-fi good, CNN bad, stoopid).
2) The shows they picked could have been better. Specifically, they could have been for adults, and furthermore shouldn't have been edited down to a pre-teen level. Things might have gone rather differently if they had Hellsing or Excel Saga or Hajime no Ippo headlining (provided the dubs don't suck - I don't know).
3) The Inu Yasha dub sucks terribly, for a headlining show. Pilot Candidate sucks, period - I was changing the channel with extreme prejudice when that came on. MS Gundam is interesting from a historical standpoint, but not much else. OS and Tenchi had already been shown way too much already.
4) I wonder how many times they'll re-run Cowboy Bebop before they realize that adults, unlike kids, tend not to watch shows ad infinitum. This is the problem with ALL CN shows, and especially with AS. At the very least, they could run a show all the way through (anime series are almost all ~13 or ~26 episodes long) in a prime time slot once, then switch to a new series, and eventually rerunning it in a less watched time slot for the rest. Of course they best way would be to run it once in a blue moon and make it an event, and show LOTS of series.
5) Anime != Action. Tenchi is not action (nor is Sailor Moon over in Toonami). Anime covers a broad spectrum of genres and is generally marketed to specific target demographics. Grouping shows by genres is bad - it makes people compare. Grouping shows by demographic is good - it ensures people keep watching. No demographic wants to watch for more than 2 hrs, and most will watch for only 1.
6) I can barely stay up 'til one, even on Saturday, and am rarely in the mood to watch 3 hrs of programming at a time. Also, Saturday night happens to be when a very large chunk of the AS demographic has better things to do, like appeasing the girlfriend or going to a LAN party. It's an awful time slot. (For the record, I think a better pattern would be for 1hr per night Su-Th, with different shows targeting different demographics each night, like prime time on the networks but shorter. I.E. adults can just tune in at a certain time and something new for them will be on. Unfortunately late night is hard to program through, with the Midnight Run conflicting, The Daily Show competing, and Bed calling.)
7) Nothing ventured, nothing gained. ASA had little problem attracting the hardcore geek contingent. It might've survived if they tried attracting other people too.
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Seriously, everything that has been cut was nearing its natural end of life; Gundam is the only one that hasn't been on that long. Also, try to remember that Cartoon Network is going from showing 3 hours of Adult Swim anime to 5. It's pretty likely that Cowboy Bebop will be replaced by another new acquision soon, given the fact that the 26 episodes will be repeating every 5 weeks on the new shedule.
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Adult swim isnt just anime. Shows like harvey birdman: attorney at law, and Sealab 2021 are hilarious shows with many adult only jokes, and many jokes that only adults would get.
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Oh, that's right -- I'm not at home watching TV on Saturday nights! :)
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'Shin Seiki' translates as 'new century.' 'Evangelion' is an adaptation of a German word meaning 'gospel.' Therefore, the Japanese title would translate as 'Gospel for a New Century' or 'New Century Gospel.' Gainex themselves, by the way, chose the title 'Neon Genesis: Evangelion' for the English title, which is why the average hardcore anime fan doesn't scream about it. It makes sense, if you think about it; 'Neon' invokes images of modernity, technology, cold and sterile science. 'Genesis,' aside from meaning 'beginning,' of course, evokes religious overtones to the average North American. 'Evangelion' is close enough to English words such as 'evangelism' to evoke similar images, yet odd enough to feel somehow different, or other. Kind of evocative, when you put it all together.
You'll notice all sorts of German-isms throughout the series, if you know what you're looking for.
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Sailor Moon will always be a kid's show. The uncensored version had some occasional bits that conventional American families found objectionable- their loss.
Nudity and sexuality aren't evil, twisting choice pieces of a religion into entertainment is commonplace, and large scale violence (99% consequence free!) is an accepted staple of Saturday morning cartoons. Adult fans like to cling to those elements as proof that they're not really watching 24 minutes of commericals for pink plastic jewlery, but they're in denial.
The only part of Sailor Moon that I would hesitate to show to American youngsters is something you didn't mention- because of drastically different firearms ownership laws in Japan and the US, portrayl of kids playing with a real-looking toy gun might be a safety-hazard in America. (Or an invitation for a lawsuit)
Although I'm sad to see the Anime go from adult swim, I believe it's going for a reason.
The big problem that I saw with it was that CN appeared to take the easiest and safest way out when it came to the shows they selected. They looked for shows that were pretty much dubbed already and threw them into a sat. night block. MGS has been translated (badly) for years now. Yu Yu Hakusho, although translated pretty well, is nowhere near as harsh as the actual show Was.
I would like to see Trigun, Bezerk, Slayers, Lodoss War or Hellsing here, but I know it would never happen and what would happen to it if it did. For Example Trigun has too many guns so you risk some kid blowing his head off cause he thinks he's Vash (Or as I like to refer to it, SKS - Stupid Kid Syndrome). Hellsing Would make the Christian Coailation go Insane, Would be edited to death because of all the Violence, blood and raw gore, and again back to SKS.
Like Cowboy Bebop? Good. There's a boatload of anime that is similar to it. maybe not with the same amount of charm or style, but identical when it comes to the action, gunfighting and the like. The American Viewer Seems to like the "Gunfighting, Die-Hard/Dirty Harry like, action packed, one man killing Spree" genre so give it to them instead of stuff the're not interested in at this time.
Oh. And finally, I know that almost all Recent anime anymore is either a CardCaptor Anime, (YuGiOh, Fighting Foodons, Cardcaptors, ETC) or a Pocket Monster Anime (Transformers Armada, Pokemon, Digimon, ETC). Unfortunatly this stuff is coming over here because it puts SKS to a good use when it comes to getting the Kid To spend their Parents money. Don't Judge anime based on these. There is a Lot of stuff out there that will appeal to just about anyone. You just have to go looking for it.
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and i hate to say it, but the addition of inu yasha to the lineup makes the disclusion of gundam (or most other big robot series) seem like a HOLY BOLT FROM THE HAND OF JESUS, as far as i'm concerned (and i've watched quite a bit of anime).
anybody who posts "well, the only one i liked was cowboy bebop" has their head in the right place, but inu yasha will change your mind-- unless, of course, it's dubbed so terribly that all the characters are somehow dull and obnoxious at the same time.
as for those who say they "don't like" anime... to somebody who knows what they're talking about, that's like saying "i don't like fruit"... you've obviously only tried the bad ones.
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Cartoon Network needs to spin the anime to a new Anime Network. They could run pokecrap and hamstertron and such during the day, then more action and adult type stuff later at night.
There already is a seperate Anime channel. You just probably can't get it in your area of the world. It's pretty much a carbon copy of Cartoon Network before Southpark came on. They created a channel to have an way to make a few bucks by just airing out all these old episodes that have been around forever. It's cool seeing G-force where the kid doesn't stutter, but come on...Transformers and other 70s/80s drek? Bah.
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