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Premature Rumors about Stargate Season 7?

An anonymous reader writes "While some were excited about the news of Stargate's renewal, others remained cautiously skeptical. Those is who did might be interested in reading this story posted on Zap2it." I for one hope the show keeps going. With the loss of Farscape, SG1 is possibly the best straight up sci-fi on TV- and the last show on the SciFi channel I watch.

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  1. Stargate by SargeZT · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Was an excellent series until Daniele Jackson died, then it just went downhill. I wouldn't be suprised it it was continued, because of the trend that SciFi seems to be taking. But, if they do continue it, I will continue to watch it. KREE!

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    1. Re:Stargate by Goalie_Ca · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I dissagree. I liked seeing Daniel Jackson go. I would like to see that prodigy air force university student, she's blonde i think, take his position. I think stargate is nearing its end. No good thing can last forever but there were too many weird changes in an attempt to keep things new and fresh. I liked things they way they were, minus Daniel Jackson :P. I like him better than Sam Carter though.

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  2. Robots by Trusty+Penfold · · Score: 5, Funny


    Are there any robots in Stargate? SciFi is only good when there's robots.

    1. Re:Robots by runlvl0 · · Score: 5, Funny


      [Nerd alert]

      Episode 18, Season 1, Tin Man.
      Original Air Date: February 13, 1998
      O'Neill and the SG-1 team arrive on P3X-989, only to be zapped by an electrical trap that renders them unconscious. When they awake, they find themselves in an underground lab with Harlan, a strange but apparently peaceful native of P3X-989 who claims to be 11,000 years old. Harlan, the planet's last survivor, who has lived for 11,000 years in a synthetic (that is, "robot") body, has also created robot duplicates of SG-1. Hilarity ensues.

      "Ladies and gentlemen, this is your colonel speaking. Welcome to P3X-niner-eight-niner where it's a balmy... room temperature." - Col. Jack O'Neill

      How embarrassing for me.

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  3. anyone else starting to get disappointed in scifi? by domninus.DDR · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The last show I watched regularly on the SciFi channel was Mystery Science Theater 3000, which I can never find on anymore. By the way, what happened to anime week during the summer? Or saturday morning anime? My SciFi channel viewing has gone down a lot over the past few years and no SG1 (which I only watch every now and then) would shoot it down to zero.

  4. How about a movie? by phorm · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'd very much like to see another Stargate movie. While the TV-series was cool, it didn't have quite the impact of the precluding movie. We've had enough same-ol-same-ol trek movies, perhaps Stargate could throw a new spin into things (hopefully without making it just a long episode).

  5. Re:anyone else starting to get disappointed in sci by bravehamster · · Score: 3, Informative
    MST3K is on Saturday mornings at 9am. At least it is for me. Check your listings fo', or get yourself a Tivo.

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  6. Mr Anderson by T-Kir · · Score: 5, Informative

    Apparently, it is in part due to Richard Dean Anderson... he is relocating to LA to be back with his family (a bit like Anthony Head (Giles in Buffy) returning to England for over a year. But he might rough it and do a hotel stint for the 7th season (if it does go ahead).

    A great Stargate site to go to is Gateworld, not only for nes and tidbits, but is great for episode info... etc.

    I sincerely hope that Stargate does get renewed for a seventh season, and that the possible post series feature film (that might deal with finishing off the Goa'uld) as well as Stargate: Atlantis, we are certainly getting a great amount of Science Fiction viewing.

    The Enterprise production team seriously ought to look at Farscape and SG1, because they are way superior to what recycled crap they are coming out with... the only good new thing going for Trek is the soon to be released Nemesis.

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  7. I hope it goes off the air by nukem1999 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Not for the show's content itself, but so SciFi will lose such a large portion of their viewer base that they will realize (shortly before going under, should all go well) that canning good shows is not a good idea.

  8. Stargate is _good_! by shadowj · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yeah, the movie sucked... but the TV series is produced by different people, folks who know what they're doing and actually understand science and science fiction. Try it. You might want to stay far away from the new Saturday morning animated show called Stargate:Infinity, though. It shares some concepts with the movie and SG1, but it's a real dog.

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  9. Re:Stargate: maybe best to leave now? by BigAl_nz · · Score: 4, Informative

    Since the departure of James Spader, the show just hasn't been the same.

    How much of a fan of the show are you, if you can't remember that James Spader was only in the movie, and it was Michael Shanks that played the role of Daniel Jackson in the TV series.

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  10. Stargate SG-1 has been good, but... by anzha · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They have had a few stories this season that have been a bit more fast and loose than the equivalents were on Showtime. Admittedly, the USAF has been working on alien tech for a while now, and they have been very good about making it obvious that while we can replicate and understand how to make some of the technology, once they moved over to the Scifi channel, tech starts popping out all the place. The fighter with the hyper drive, the warship (which cost a bit too little for it being made of such rare materials under such secrecy and with such one-off parts...and in a ridiculous shape for the task at hand too...sheesh), and so on.

    Well, a good way of putting it is that there has been a lot of ideas thrown around without thought of what the consequences might be unlike before.

    Don't get me wrong, it's still orders of magnitude better than Trek, but...the flavour change isn't quite as tasty as before. Think New Coke.

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    1. Re:Stargate SG-1 has been good, but... by coyote-san · · Score: 3, Informative

      IIRC, the fighters were built from recovered death glider parts (the first one almost exclusively, the second with much more Tor'ii parts), and the cruiser was mostly built from the baby Go'ulds in Oregon. Or wherever "Nightwalkers" was set.

      As for the "rare mineral," haven't you noticed that about every third episode involved trade negotiations, especially for Naquadaa? Some of these planets may have been "mined out" for the amounts required by the Go'uld, yet still worth operating for the quantity earth needs at this time.

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  11. I have problems watching SG1 by pixel_bc · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm a Vancouver person -- I find it odd that every single planet they visit happens to look just like Squamish, BC. :)

  12. Crossing Over? by victim · · Score: 5, Funny

    I just checked their web site. Looks like their only original series left will be Crossing Over. Sort of a misplaced show. High marks for fiction but no a zero for science.

    They should change their name to the fi channel

  13. Re:Stargate: maybe best to leave now? by EverDense · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...and if they can't do a dignified farewell, at least get some more hot chick involved. Do a spin-off show called "Stargate SG-1 Hawaii".

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  14. Re:Maybe they could change it too..... by shadowj · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Funny how perception varies. I thought the movie had a hokey plot and poor dialog, and that the TV series excelled in both categories.

    Aside from purely subjective impressions, consider this... SG-1 consistently maintains full continuity with every previous episode, so that the entire series is, in a sense, one giant story. Although it's not as carefully pre-plotted as Babylon 5, that feature makes things a lot more interesting... it's much more difficult to recycle an old plot. On the other hand, that may render the show more difficult for a newcomer to understand (you could always buy the 1st and 2nd season DVDs...).

    The writers are also very, very good about keeping the science real and the technobabble to a minimum, while still keeping things entertaining. I've seen them carefully avoid just about every silly movie and TV cliche you can think of (OK, they still make things go whoosh in the vacuum of space... the only people who get that right are the guys who produce Firefly).

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  15. Doesn't that creap you out? by sweatyboatman · · Score: 4, Funny

    In other news: Hollywood has perfected human cloning. Until this post I too thought they were the same person.

    or perhaps the original poster was saying that the show hasn't been the same since it began... without James Spader.

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  16. Check out Starhunter by benh57 · · Score: 5, Informative
    I don't think many US folks have heard of this one yet since its on so late. (sunday 11:30 PM UPN here..) Currently in US syndication is this british show starhunter.

    One of the cool things i noticed in the last ep is that they take relativity into account - the bounty hunter captain talking to his supplier mentioned that what was 3 weeks to them on the ship was 4 years to the folks back home.

  17. Re:priorities by shadowj · · Score: 3, Informative
    ...they should release the earlier seasons (DVD VHS etc.) first.

    They already have.

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  18. Premature Rumors about Stargate Season 7... by Tomble · · Score: 3, Funny
    ...I'm, I'm sorry, really this has never happened to me before...


    Aw, sorry, I just couldn't resist it. Personally, I've not really watched it much recently (on plain UK tv that is), but I did like it (and the film of course) when I watched it in the past. Wonder which series it is they're showing over here, I expect we should get a fair few more before the end.

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  19. Re:Stargate: maybe best to leave now? by shadowj · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Since the departure of James Spader, the show just hasn't been the same.

    It's kind of never been the same, since James Spader never appeared in the TV series. That character (Daniel Jackson) is played by Michael Shanks.

    And while the Egyptian motif is one of the most unique in sci-fi...

    The Egyptian motif is relevant only to one of the continuing subplots... the Goa'uld, a race of parasitic nasties, hijacked Egyptian mythology several thousand years ago for their own purposes. We've also seen cultures descended from Mongolian horsemen, native America, and classical Greece, among others, plus a bunch that have no clear predecessors. One frequently referenced race of good guys, the Asgard, are related to the Norse pantheon.

    I think the show is still fairly fresh... Daniel's departure has allowed them to do a few completely new things, and there's still a lot to explore (who created the Stargate system, for instance?). And come on, guys, this is a popular TV series that's managed to handle seriously abstract concepts like Von Neuman machines, and turn them into major plot elements! I do agree that they should recognize when it's time to quit gracefully, but I don't think that time has come yet.

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  20. Re:anyone else starting to get disappointed in sci by TheRealFixer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    SciFi is starting to pull an MTV. They don't seem to play that much sci-fi anymore. Slasher flicks are NOT sci-fi. Hellraiser is NOT sci-fi. They seem to play more horror movies than anything else. And not just because of Halloween.

  21. Ringworld! by shadowj · · Score: 3, Informative
    It would be uber-cool if someone would make movies out of the Ringworld series.

    A Ringworld movie has been in the works for some time, but, Hollywood being what it is, it seems to be stuck in limbo. The latest news I could find on the project is about a year old; here's a link to a news story that sounds like it may have been real. No word on whether anything will come of it, but I'm sure they'll do it eventually; look how long we had to wait for Lord of the Rings.

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    1. Re:Ringworld! by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The first problem with a Ringworld movie is the Ringworld itself. Any big-ticket Hollywood producer is going to want the Ringworld to look cool, right? After all, it's a big space ring, better make it look like a big space ring!

      From space, the Ringworld would look like an astronomical object until you got close enough, at which point it would look like an infinite black wall, or like an infinite flat plain, depending on your orientation to it. From the surface, it would look just like a planet, only with an almost-invisible arch over it. It wouldn't even look cool from altitude above it; it's just too big. (There is a series of 3D renderings of the Ringworld available here. They're interesting, but they're definitely not gripping movie material.)

      So any attempt to make a Ringworld movie is going to be crippled by the fact that they either have to make special effects that aren't that cool, or they have to make ones that aren't that accurate.

      But-- as if that weren't enough-- the biggest problem is that the plot would pretty much have to be gutted. There's a ton of back-story in Ringworld: the Puppeteers, the Kzinti, the Man-Kzin wars, lucky Teela, invulnerable spaceship hulls, sunflowers, stasis fields, hyperdrive... it's a great book, but as a movie it would either be incomprehensible to most of the world, or include five minutes of exposition for every ten minutes of action. I mean, there's more intricate background in Ringworld than there is in The Lord of the Rings! LOTR got away with, "Once upon a time there was a bad man who made a magical ring." Ringworld would need to go into detail on-- or at least mention-- a dozen or more key ideas that are basically unrelated to each other. It would be a tough screenplay to write.

      The alternative, of course, is to get rid of Niven's characters and back-story. Just get the main characters-- just humans, none of those pesky and expensive aliens-- to the Ringworld, have 'em crash, and have 'em find a way off. But that's not a particularly interesting story. It'd be difficult to make it interesting without going into some discussion of who built the Ringworld and why, and Niven's own explanation is unacceptable unless they make a Protector movie first and release it as a prequel.

      I hate to say it, but I suppose I'd rather not see Ringworld on the big screen.

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  22. They have jumped the shark, but... by Cyno01 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    i think sci fi could redeem istelf from its lack of orginal programming by maybe showing reruns of good sci fi shows that got canned, i'm thinking earth 2, space above and beyond, sliders, hell, even seaquest(please reply with other good suggestion). they could show like 2 episodes of a series at 7, an episode of their defunct original programming at 9, farscape, sg-1, lexx, MST3K, then maybe give john a spot after prime time. theres so much more they could show besides crossing over and horror movies, which IMO are not SCI-fi at all, they could show old eps of unsolved mysteries and stuff like that, any other ideas about what they could do for non original programming thats good and actually is sci-fi?

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  23. Daniele Jackson? by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 4, Funny

    Was an excellent series until Daniele Jackson died, then it just went downhill. I wouldn't be suprised it it was continued, because of the trend that SciFi seems to be taking. But, if they do continue it, I will continue to watch it. KREE!


    Daniele Jackson? Have you been watching SG-1 in a parallel universe where all the cast members are of the opposite gender?

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  24. Current Information about Farscape by antis0c · · Score: 5, Informative

    Currently, there is a massive online campaign going on to save Farscape. You can view it here at Save Farscape and sometimes here due to DNS problems, Save Farscape.

    Essentially the current working theory on why Farscape was canceled boils down to this. In Part, Michael Jackson (not the singer obviously) and the head of USA Networks don't like Space shows. The other part, Stargate SG1 only costs around $500,000 per episode to make, where-as Farscape costs around $1,200,000 to make (yes, 1.2 million) per episode. This is why they moved Farscape to 10pm on Friday nights from their original 9pm slot, and put Farscape into the 9pm slot. They ended up losing a good part of their younger audience due to bedtimes. Why? They wanted to get the Farscape fanbase interested in Stargate while intentionally dropping ratings for Farscape. This way they could issue a statement that they are cancelling Farscape due to a slip in ratings, and actually keep the overall ratings with Stargate, all while saving $700,000.

    From a business standpoint sure it looks good. But people watch the network, not robots. They get upset and angry when favorite shows of theirs are canceled, especially when there was an announcement they were picking up season 5 and it was in a contract, little be knowns to the public there was a huge out loophole in the contract. So anyhow, if you are a fan of Farscape, head over to those links and see what you can do.

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  25. not just scfi by asv108 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    SciFi is starting to pull an MTV. They don't seem to play that much sci-fi anymore

    Well it seems that every channel is doing that these days:

    • Discovery Channel 10 years ago use to have informative documentaries.. Now they have multiple idiots with accents discussing dangerous animals..
    • Headline news, use to be straight up news, now its lets talk about time Warner's latest CD. Movie, etc.
    • CNN was targeted towards educated TV viewers, now its a bunch of commentary instead of hard news. Hell, even Crossfire is now more like Oprah..
    • The Learning Channel has turned in to the Demolition Derby Network..
  26. Looking Forward to Next Dune Miniseries by Nintendork · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have the first one on DVD. Seen it about 4 times (By myself, showing girlfriend, showing mother who read it in her youth, and with my stupid roomate.) For those interested, here's the /. posting about the next one.

  27. Re: Firefly, an alternative sci-fi show by Black+Parrot · · Score: 4, Informative


    > Ok, this maybe a bit off topic, but i think a majority of /.ers would be extremely suprised at how creative Firefly [fox.com] is. Its funny, refreshing, and the writting has been incredible. Not to mention the great job of the cast.

    Also, people who watch the first episode and haven't been back might want to give it another try. E1 was by far the worst episode they've aired. The characters are really starting to get interesting.

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  28. Re:Stargate: maybe best to leave now? by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Honest mistake. Whether it's by coincidence or by design, Michael Shanks's voice is incredibly similar to James Spader's. They don't look very much alike, but close your eyes and it's a challenge to tell the two apart.

    (Unrelated nitpick on the subject of voices and dialects. Jackson is a linguist, right? Why, oh why, does he mispronounce "Goa'uld" as "goold" just like O'Neill and the other humans? As a linguist, shouldn't he be able to pronounce it "go-ah-oold" just like Teal'c and the other non-Earthlink characters do? Grumble-mumble.)

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  29. Re:Stargate: maybe best to leave now? by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Plus, you've gotta respect any series that writes in a cat named Schrodinger, and then doesn't explain the joke.

    (Following their lead, I won't explain it either. If you don't know what Schrodinger's cat is, please turn in your Slashdot pass at the front desk and show yourself out.)

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  30. Wait a minute, it's called... by praedor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    the SciFi Channel? I thought it was the Stargate Channel as that is the only show on that channel. Open up the TV guide and all I see is SG-1, SG-1, SG-1, etc, etc, ad nauseum. Kinda like the misnamed History Channel. It is actually the WWII Channel as that is the only stuff they show.


    I have been steadily widdling down the number of channels I actually watch since getting my satellite dish. Hundreds of channels but nothing of note to watch. I USED to watch the SG-1 Channel when it had B5 and Farscape running. Now, it's just crap (X-Files reruns don't cut it...I've seen 'em all already several times over).


    It is almost to the point that it makes just as much sense to ditch the satellite and go back to my aerial with its 3 or 4 available channels. It has about as much variety as the Satellite at no cost. SciFi Channel indeed! My @ss!

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  31. Words by shadowj · · Score: 3, Funny
    Other words are: Tau'ri, Goa'uld, Tok'Ra, Drey'auc, Sha'tak, Bra'tac, Rya'c, ....

    Wal-Mart must have been having a blowout sale on apostrophes when they wrote the series guide.

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