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Premature Rumors about Stargate Season 7?
An anonymous reader writes "While some were excited about the news of Stargate's renewal, others remained cautiously skeptical. Those is who did might be interested in reading this story posted on Zap2it." I for one hope the show keeps going. With the loss of Farscape, SG1 is possibly the best straight up sci-fi on TV- and the last show on the SciFi channel I watch.
Was an excellent series until Daniele Jackson died, then it just went downhill. I wouldn't be suprised it it was continued, because of the trend that SciFi seems to be taking. But, if they do continue it, I will continue to watch it. KREE!
And why did you staple the trout to the RAM?
Are there any robots in Stargate? SciFi is only good when there's robots.
The last show I watched regularly on the SciFi channel was Mystery Science Theater 3000, which I can never find on anymore. By the way, what happened to anime week during the summer? Or saturday morning anime? My SciFi channel viewing has gone down a lot over the past few years and no SG1 (which I only watch every now and then) would shoot it down to zero.
I'd very much like to see another Stargate movie. While the TV-series was cool, it didn't have quite the impact of the precluding movie. We've had enough same-ol-same-ol trek movies, perhaps Stargate could throw a new spin into things (hopefully without making it just a long episode).
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Apparently, it is in part due to Richard Dean Anderson... he is relocating to LA to be back with his family (a bit like Anthony Head (Giles in Buffy) returning to England for over a year. But he might rough it and do a hotel stint for the 7th season (if it does go ahead).
A great Stargate site to go to is Gateworld, not only for nes and tidbits, but is great for episode info... etc.
I sincerely hope that Stargate does get renewed for a seventh season, and that the possible post series feature film (that might deal with finishing off the Goa'uld) as well as Stargate: Atlantis, we are certainly getting a great amount of Science Fiction viewing.
The Enterprise production team seriously ought to look at Farscape and SG1, because they are way superior to what recycled crap they are coming out with... the only good new thing going for Trek is the soon to be released Nemesis.
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Not for the show's content itself, but so SciFi will lose such a large portion of their viewer base that they will realize (shortly before going under, should all go well) that canning good shows is not a good idea.
Without any new farscape episodes after the wrap up of this season, and if there were no more episodes of stargate sg1 after this series, would there really be anything worth watching anymore on scifi? (besides of course the good episodes of both when they are in reruns, but even that gets boring after repeated viewing)
Yeah, the movie sucked... but the TV series is produced by different people, folks who know what they're doing and actually understand science and science fiction. Try it. You might want to stay far away from the new Saturday morning animated show called Stargate:Infinity, though. It shares some concepts with the movie and SG1, but it's a real dog.
--Larry
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence
Since the departure of James Spader, the show just hasn't been the same.
How much of a fan of the show are you, if you can't remember that James Spader was only in the movie, and it was Michael Shanks that played the role of Daniel Jackson in the TV series.
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They have had a few stories this season that have been a bit more fast and loose than the equivalents were on Showtime. Admittedly, the USAF has been working on alien tech for a while now, and they have been very good about making it obvious that while we can replicate and understand how to make some of the technology, once they moved over to the Scifi channel, tech starts popping out all the place. The fighter with the hyper drive, the warship (which cost a bit too little for it being made of such rare materials under such secrecy and with such one-off parts...and in a ridiculous shape for the task at hand too...sheesh), and so on.
Well, a good way of putting it is that there has been a lot of ideas thrown around without thought of what the consequences might be unlike before.
Don't get me wrong, it's still orders of magnitude better than Trek, but...the flavour change isn't quite as tasty as before. Think New Coke.
Do you know why the road less traveled by is littered with the bones of the unwary?
In the case of Earth 2, they just pre-empted too many shows due to football on Sunday nights and kept moving around the timeslot. I was an avid viewer and couldn't find the show half the time. No wonder the ratings weren't what they wanted. As far as SG-1 goes, I kept Showtime for two years just for that show... and dropped it as soon as it moved over to sci-fi.
I'm a Vancouver person -- I find it odd that every single planet they visit happens to look just like Squamish, BC. :)
I just checked their web site. Looks like their only original series left will be Crossing Over. Sort of a misplaced show. High marks for fiction but no a zero for science.
They should change their name to the fi channel
...and if they can't do a dignified farewell, at least get some more hot chick involved. Do a spin-off show called "Stargate SG-1 Hawaii".
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Andromeda. Firefly is decent. Umm... Hmm. Yeah, guess you're right.
Jesus was all right but his disciples were thick and ordinary. -John Lennon
Yeah, and what's with that bald chick in the Star Trek movie? I mean, that ruined it for me.
I'm so glad I haven't wasted any of my time with the subsequent movies or series. I mean, if it's that bad on the first movie you shudder to think of how bad it must have been by, oh, the 4th or 5th year of the first spinoff series.
For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. -- H L Mencken
Lexx had it all. What more could a sci-fi nut want? Great tits, erotic undertones, a dead assasin and a live ship. Only thing it was missing was full frontal nudity.
Oh God, I hope I didn't miss the full frontal nudity.
Anyone know which episode it was in if I did miss it?
What mindless drones feel this should be included with Science Fiction? How about palm reading with Madame Zora and your daily horoscope by Hubert the One-eyed goat?
Aside from purely subjective impressions, consider this... SG-1 consistently maintains full continuity with every previous episode, so that the entire series is, in a sense, one giant story. Although it's not as carefully pre-plotted as Babylon 5, that feature makes things a lot more interesting... it's much more difficult to recycle an old plot. On the other hand, that may render the show more difficult for a newcomer to understand (you could always buy the 1st and 2nd season DVDs...).
The writers are also very, very good about keeping the science real and the technobabble to a minimum, while still keeping things entertaining. I've seen them carefully avoid just about every silly movie and TV cliche you can think of (OK, they still make things go whoosh in the vacuum of space... the only people who get that right are the guys who produce Firefly).
--Larry
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence
In other news: Hollywood has perfected human cloning. Until this post I too thought they were the same person.
or perhaps the original poster was saying that the show hasn't been the same since it began... without James Spader.
It breaks my pluginses, my precious!
One of the cool things i noticed in the last ep is that they take relativity into account - the bounty hunter captain talking to his supplier mentioned that what was 3 weeks to them on the ship was 4 years to the folks back home.
I believe that the actor who played Boone wanted out. In any event, it was straight into the toilet after he left.
Jesus was all right but his disciples were thick and ordinary. -John Lennon
They already have.
--Larry
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence
Aw, sorry, I just couldn't resist it. Personally, I've not really watched it much recently (on plain UK tv that is), but I did like it (and the film of course) when I watched it in the past. Wonder which series it is they're showing over here, I expect we should get a fair few more before the end.
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It's kind of never been the same, since James Spader never appeared in the TV series. That character (Daniel Jackson) is played by Michael Shanks.
And while the Egyptian motif is one of the most unique in sci-fi...
The Egyptian motif is relevant only to one of the continuing subplots... the Goa'uld, a race of parasitic nasties, hijacked Egyptian mythology several thousand years ago for their own purposes. We've also seen cultures descended from Mongolian horsemen, native America, and classical Greece, among others, plus a bunch that have no clear predecessors. One frequently referenced race of good guys, the Asgard, are related to the Norse pantheon.
I think the show is still fairly fresh... Daniel's departure has allowed them to do a few completely new things, and there's still a lot to explore (who created the Stargate system, for instance?). And come on, guys, this is a popular TV series that's managed to handle seriously abstract concepts like Von Neuman machines, and turn them into major plot elements! I do agree that they should recognize when it's time to quit gracefully, but I don't think that time has come yet.
--Larry
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence
SciFi is starting to pull an MTV. They don't seem to play that much sci-fi anymore. Slasher flicks are NOT sci-fi. Hellraiser is NOT sci-fi. They seem to play more horror movies than anything else. And not just because of Halloween.
A Ringworld movie has been in the works for some time, but, Hollywood being what it is, it seems to be stuck in limbo. The latest news I could find on the project is about a year old; here's a link to a news story that sounds like it may have been real. No word on whether anything will come of it, but I'm sure they'll do it eventually; look how long we had to wait for Lord of the Rings.
--Larry
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence
i think sci fi could redeem istelf from its lack of orginal programming by maybe showing reruns of good sci fi shows that got canned, i'm thinking earth 2, space above and beyond, sliders, hell, even seaquest(please reply with other good suggestion). they could show like 2 episodes of a series at 7, an episode of their defunct original programming at 9, farscape, sg-1, lexx, MST3K, then maybe give john a spot after prime time. theres so much more they could show besides crossing over and horror movies, which IMO are not SCI-fi at all, they could show old eps of unsolved mysteries and stuff like that, any other ideas about what they could do for non original programming thats good and actually is sci-fi?
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Was an excellent series until Daniele Jackson died, then it just went downhill. I wouldn't be suprised it it was continued, because of the trend that SciFi seems to be taking. But, if they do continue it, I will continue to watch it. KREE!
Daniele Jackson? Have you been watching SG-1 in a parallel universe where all the cast members are of the opposite gender?
"Accept that some days you are the pigeon, and some days you are the statue." - David Brent, Wernham Hogg
Currently, there is a massive online campaign going on to save Farscape. You can view it here at Save Farscape and sometimes here due to DNS problems, Save Farscape.
Essentially the current working theory on why Farscape was canceled boils down to this. In Part, Michael Jackson (not the singer obviously) and the head of USA Networks don't like Space shows. The other part, Stargate SG1 only costs around $500,000 per episode to make, where-as Farscape costs around $1,200,000 to make (yes, 1.2 million) per episode. This is why they moved Farscape to 10pm on Friday nights from their original 9pm slot, and put Farscape into the 9pm slot. They ended up losing a good part of their younger audience due to bedtimes. Why? They wanted to get the Farscape fanbase interested in Stargate while intentionally dropping ratings for Farscape. This way they could issue a statement that they are cancelling Farscape due to a slip in ratings, and actually keep the overall ratings with Stargate, all while saving $700,000.
From a business standpoint sure it looks good. But people watch the network, not robots. They get upset and angry when favorite shows of theirs are canceled, especially when there was an announcement they were picking up season 5 and it was in a contract, little be knowns to the public there was a huge out loophole in the contract. So anyhow, if you are a fan of Farscape, head over to those links and see what you can do.
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I just couldn't take it anymore! :)
"With the loss of Farscape, SG1 is possibly the best straight up sci-fi on TV- and the last show on the SciFi channel I watch. "
What the frell are you smoking?
I have no idea what the marketing people are trying to accomplish by holding back older episodes... but for what it's worth, the sci-fi channel is running all the SG-1 episodes from the beginning. Consult your local listings, etc.
--Larry
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence
Well it seems that every channel is doing that these days:
I have the first one on DVD. Seen it about 4 times (By myself, showing girlfriend, showing mother who read it in her youth, and with my stupid roomate.) For those interested, here's the /. posting about the next one.
The setting is not too distant. Mankind has moved from just the Earth, colonizing asteroids, moons and other planets in the system. Along with this spread, mankind is discovering that there are a few genes on the human genome that are of, well, alien origin.
Things get interesting. The ship's captain, Dante Montana, is searching for his child, abducted years ago by raiders. His neice, Percy, is the engineer, such as it is, on the ship. Luc is the other human crew member, and the computer rounds off the complement.
I've seen three and a half episodes thus far, and it looks rather good. Check them out, but beware, the listed "start time" is usually wrong (here in Seattle, it starts at 11:05 Saturday night).
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Also, people who watch the first episode and haven't been back might want to give it another try. E1 was by far the worst episode they've aired. The characters are really starting to get interesting.
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
I think you meant to say "Stargate: The Raven", right?
Firefly. Andromeda is decent.
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Been watching both Starhunter and Firefly of late. Neither are Star Trek worlds. Both have holes I think you could drive a truck through, on an icy road, sideways, and recover.
In a variation on the ST world, I am still a fan of Andromeda.
Of course none of these are on the SciFi channel. Perhaps this is the one instance where Harlan Ellison (drat I remembered his name) is right and the pronuciation of SciFi is Skiffy, and for this channel has nothing to do with Science Fiction.
There are a few who like the idea of Xfiles on the Skiffy channel, I have never really followed the show however.
Your opinions may differ.
-Rusty
You never know...
Honest mistake. Whether it's by coincidence or by design, Michael Shanks's voice is incredibly similar to James Spader's. They don't look very much alike, but close your eyes and it's a challenge to tell the two apart.
(Unrelated nitpick on the subject of voices and dialects. Jackson is a linguist, right? Why, oh why, does he mispronounce "Goa'uld" as "goold" just like O'Neill and the other humans? As a linguist, shouldn't he be able to pronounce it "go-ah-oold" just like Teal'c and the other non-Earthlink characters do? Grumble-mumble.)
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Plus, you've gotta respect any series that writes in a cat named Schrodinger, and then doesn't explain the joke.
(Following their lead, I won't explain it either. If you don't know what Schrodinger's cat is, please turn in your Slashdot pass at the front desk and show yourself out.)
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E1 was by far the worst episode they've aired.
Oh, I don't know. It had some pretty outstanding moments. Apart from the one that everybody already knows about, there was the scene where the captain was under cover trying to pass himself off as a harmless job-hunter to the local sheriff. His story isn't perfect, though, because he claims to have gotten a lead on a job in town from a Mr. So-n-so.
"When was the last time you talked to Mr. So-n-so?" asks the sheriff.
"Never did myself," says the captain. "Heard about him through (blah blah, some other connection)."
"Well, that's funny, because Mr. So-n-so died 'bout nine months back."
"Did he now?" asks the captain. Then there's like a five second pause, which is a long time on television. "So..." he says, real slowly, "would his job be available?"
Cracked me up. What a great show.
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I know this reads like a troll, and I'm shocked I feel this way, because I really loved so many Sci-Fi shows in my life. Still, I think Firefly just has the best writers, hands down. I guess it's not the show for people who like plots about time travel, holograms and other mishandled philosophical issues. Firefly is more like the chronicles of a D&D adventure group. Whatever. It really kicks ass. ... Well, that's enough of my gushing; I'm glad I got that off my chest.
Stargate is a syndicated piece of crap on par with Andromeda/Relic Hunter/Tracker with $50 (Canadian) production budgets.
Sure you might watch it once in a while but you would never admit it. What's wrong with you guys?
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That's too bad, because you've missed out on what is looking to be the best new sci-fi show of the year; Jeremiah.
Some of the episodes have been fairly cheezy, but the "plot" episodes have been excellent. It is reminding me alot of Bablyon 5 - slow beginning with some weak episodes. In fact, Straczynski (of Bab5) is doing this series, too, and I think it's going to turn out to be one heck of a show.
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"Comedians and politicians each tell the audience what it wants to hear. The difference is that the audience laughs at the comedian and the politician laughs at the audience." --Alexis A. Gilliland
"With the loss of Farscape, SG1 is possibly the best straight up sci-fi on TV"
Ahh!
Ah ha ha ha!
Oh....
Mercy!
the SciFi Channel? I thought it was the Stargate Channel as that is the only show on that channel. Open up the TV guide and all I see is SG-1, SG-1, SG-1, etc, etc, ad nauseum. Kinda like the misnamed History Channel. It is actually the WWII Channel as that is the only stuff they show.
I have been steadily widdling down the number of channels I actually watch since getting my satellite dish. Hundreds of channels but nothing of note to watch. I USED to watch the SG-1 Channel when it had B5 and Farscape running. Now, it's just crap (X-Files reruns don't cut it...I've seen 'em all already several times over).
It is almost to the point that it makes just as much sense to ditch the satellite and go back to my aerial with its 3 or 4 available channels. It has about as much variety as the Satellite at no cost. SciFi Channel indeed! My @ss!
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That ship was so ugly I'll be surprised if Thor let's them park it anywhere around the Asgard home planet. There goes the property value.
It would be like parking an old trashed Corvair in a Ferrari neighborhood. Did you see the shot with Thor's ship and that thing together? Ugh!
Wal-Mart must have been having a blowout sale on apostrophes when they wrote the series guide.
--Larry
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence
I viewed Lexx for the first time a few days ago... and was rather shocked.
The premise appears to be a cranky old man, porno-quality woman, and an invincible man with enormous hair living in a spaceship/insect.
The episode consisted of a number of hostile, floating arms attempting to eat said spacecraft.
I can't decide whether I love it or I hate it.
We can neither love nor pity nor forgive. If you make a slip in handling us you die!
The best SF on TV right now is over on Showtime. It's called Odyssey 5 and stars Peter Weller. It's about a Shuttle crew that is in orbit when the Earth is destroyed. They encounter a strange alien, who's homeworld was also destroyed in the same manner, that sends them back in time five years to attempt to discover what happened and prevent it. It is very reminiscent of Babylon 5 in tone and the overriding arc. Great writing and really interesting characters.
I thought the movie had a hokey plot and poor dialog, and that the TV series excelled in both categories.
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Excelled in hokey plot and poor dialog?
Higher Logics: where programming meets science.
Not to mention, Anderson's character Jack is a Simpsons fan. :)
In the episode where they all had their memories wiped... one of the few things he remembered was a "bald guy in a t-shirt", "I think he was important to me", "I think his name was Homer".
And in the episode in Antarctica... He said to Teal'c, "D'oh! I forgot to record the Simpsons." Teal'c looked at him strangely. "It's very important to me."
Crossfire is ok when they have Bob Novak on. He's the only one that isn't a party shill. The rest would defend whatever the party line was even if it included poisoning the milk of school children.
American Gothic - rocked
Brimstone - rocked
Dark Skies - eh, it was watchable
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The History Channel." - Homer Simpson
If you don't know what Schrodinger's cat is,
I know! You can find them in boxes in Nethack sometimes! (but half the time they seem to be dead for some reason)
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I wonder why this crops up again and again. Brad Wright has previously said that he quite expected season 6 to be the last season, it was building towards something which would be continued in a SG1 movie. Then if there was interest he has an idea for a spin of series, based on a seed he claims to have planted back in season 1.
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And half the fun of that rather unique introduction is that she wasn't at all embarassed by it. She cheerfully greeted Mal and immediately started to tell him what was wrong with his engines. Makes Scotty look like a slacker, doesn't it?
--Larry
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence
Honest mistake. Whether it's by coincidence or by design, Michael Shanks's voice is incredibly similar to James Spader's. They don't look very much alike, but close your eyes and it's a challenge to tell the two apart.
:)
Actually, one of the reasons that Michael Shanks got the part was that he turned up for his audition, and the casting people thought he was James Spader! This was intentional on Michael's part of course.
As to the reason why he's left the show, it was creative differences with the direction the show was taking. Michael more or less said, if you continue to write the show in this way, I'll leave. They said, here's your hat. *sigh* A pity. Still, Jonus Quinn isn't too bad, even though they've really made his character super smart. Corin Nemic really can't loose, can he ?
--- There isn't any problem that can't be solved by a small, low yield nuclear device, is there??
I don't know what went wrong with Andromeda. It's got an interesting premise, rich backstory, nice effects, surprisingly intelligent use of real terminology (I like the way that they compute short-range distance in terms of light-seconds)... yet somehow it just doesn't ever come together for me. The dialog is flat, the acting is wooden, the characters are cardboard cutouts. Why is it so bad?
--Larry
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence