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Slashdot is Moving. Help Load Test!

We're moving the Slashdot cluster from Exodus East to Exodus West in the next couple days. In good Slashdot Tradition, we've opened up brak.slashdot.org for you to help load test the new cluster. Currently its almost an exact copy of our existing setup (missing a couple of webheads which will be up soon). The actual move will occur late at night (most likely tonight or tomorrow depending on how things go), and will hopefully involve only a few minutes of downtime as we copy the last of the data over the continent. Thanks for your help.

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  1. Slashdotted already by flikx · · Score: 5, Funny

    Load test indeed!

    Someone please post mirrors!

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    1. Re:Slashdotted already by ThrasherTT · · Score: 5, Funny

      Find a mirror here

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    2. Re:Slashdotted already by flikx · · Score: 4, Funny

      That one's slashdotted too. Does anyone have the google cache link??

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    3. Re:Slashdotted already by ThrasherTT · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sure... here you go!

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  2. What should be changed.. by edmz · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ..is slashdots design. Its time, dont you think ?

    1. Re:What should be changed.. by ericdano · · Score: 3, Interesting
      YES! I second this proposal!

      Do we hear a third vote?

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    2. Re:What should be changed.. by Tranvisor · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Why? I have always liked it. I don't see any specific problems, do you?

      If it ain't broke, don't fuck with it. :)

  3. nows a good time to explain..... by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    .....the hardware required to run slashdot.

    Its been asked by me before - and I am sure many others...

    can you please give us a rundown on what Slashdot physically and technically looks like?

    1. Re:nows a good time to explain..... by ajakk · · Score: 5, Informative

      Maybe you could read the first link on the right side of your screen labelled "FAQ". If you are sure that it has been asked my many others, it probably has, thus it is a "Frequently Asked Question". In case you can't find that link, try clicking here to find out what is powering /.

    2. Re:nows a good time to explain..... by the_danielsan · · Score: 5, Informative
    3. Re:nows a good time to explain..... by Roosey · · Score: 5, Funny

      Physically, it looks like this. And this. And this also.

      Technically? I haven't got a clue.

    4. Re:nows a good time to explain..... by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 5, Interesting

      ...last modified 6/13/00

      Maybe an update is in order?

    5. Re:nows a good time to explain..... by SheldonYoung · · Score: 4, Funny

      The description of the hardware in the FAQ is two and a half years old (Last Modified: 6/13/00). It should be What kind of hardware did Slashdot used to run on?

  4. Brak eh? by myowntrueself · · Score: 5, Funny

    It'll only take three hams to kill it.
    Three hams!!!

    You guys got another one called Zorak?

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    1. Re:Brak eh? by Shut+the+fuck+up! · · Score: 4, Informative

      From the Brak show, Brak is supposed to take care of Thunercleese's goldfish:

      Thundercleese: Feed him exactly three milligrams of Tickle Snax! And be forewarned - three hams will certainly kill him. [close-up of Thundercleese's, uh, face] Three hams.
      Brak:
      [singing] Three hams will kill him,
      Three hams will kill him,
      I shouldn't feed him three hams! [Brak spreads his arms on the last word. Mr. Tickles hides behind the car.]

      Thundercleese: Excellent! Your mission begins in the morning.

      [Wipe to the room with Mr. Tickles's aquarium. Brak and Zorak are standing in front of it.]

      Brak: Now what did Thundercleese say I was s'posed to feed Mr. Tickles for breakfast? I forget... [Thundercleese appears in a thought bubble by Brak's head. Brak turns to look at it.]

      Thundercleese:
      [singing] Three hams will fill him,
      Three hams will thrill him,
      Why don't you feed him three hams! [Thundercleese holds his arms up. A giant plate with three hams lands on his hands.]

      Brak: Thank you, thought bubble! [The thought bubble disappears.]

      Brak: Hey, Zorak, d'you think Mr. Tickles would like a delicious three ham omelet?

    2. Re:Brak eh? by Dannon · · Score: 4, Funny

      You guys got another one called Zorak?

      An evil, giant, annoying bug out to take over the world that's always getting blasted by the host....

      That'd be the server where /. stores the Microsoft stories, isn't it?

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    3. Re:Brak eh? by diesel_jackass · · Score: 3, Funny

      Zorak: So here's what we do. We go back to Friday,
      Brak: And we make a kite outta squirrels and fly it to the moon!
      Zorak: No, we track ourselves down,
      Brak: Then what?
      Zorak: We make our other selves do the homework!
      Brak: Hey, Zorak, can I ask you a question?
      Zorak: Yeah, what?
      Brak: Where are we gonna find enough squirrels to make a kite?
      Zorak: Are you really that stupid?
      Brak: Oooh! I dare you to say that again! Only this time, say 'Brak, I love you!'
      Zorak: Let's go

  5. hey Taco! by tps12 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Since you're apparently in a "meta" mood, can you tell me what happened to Jon Katz? I miss him.

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    1. Re:hey Taco! by good-n-nappy · · Score: 4, Informative

      can you tell me what happened to Jon Katz?

      Take a look at this article. A quote from the article:

      Now, the one-time crusader for the geek underclass has decided to concentrate on writing more general technology articles and media commentary.

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    2. Re:hey Taco! by Iamthefallen · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That's what he should've been doing here. Some of his "tech from a normal persons view" articles were actually quite entertaining and well written. General technology articles and media commentary, sure. Problem was he attempted some socio-political commentary aswell as some in-depth technical stuff on Slashdot without being able to pull it off.

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  6. Serious question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Does this mean that response times will be worse for Europeans? Or does modern routing make that irrelevant?

    1. Re:Serious question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Doesn't look hopeful:

      to slashdot.org:
      4 gige1-2.core1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net (213.244.165.101) 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms
      5 CW-Level3.level3.net (213.244.165.246) 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms
      6 bcr1-so-3-0-0.Amsterdam.cw.net (208.173.211.237) 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms
      7 dcr2-loopback.NewYork.cw.net (206.24.194.100) 85 ms 85 ms 85 ms
      8 cable-and-wireless-internal-isp.NewYork.cw.net (206.24.207.226) 85 ms 85 ms 85 ms
      9 bbr01-g6-0.jrcy01.exodus.net (216.32.223.129) 85 ms 85 ms 85 ms
      10 bbr01-p4-0.wlhm01.exodus.net (209.1.169.66) 90 ms 91 ms 91 ms
      11 dcr04-g1-0.wlhm01.exodus.net (64.14.70.50) 91 ms 91 ms 91 ms
      12 csr03-ve240.wlhm02.exodus.net (64.14.70.130) 150 ms 91 ms 91 ms
      13 64.28.66.204 (64.28.66.204) 91 ms 91 ms 91 ms

      to brak.slashdot.org:
      4 gige6-0.core1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net (213.244.165.45) 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms
      5 CW-Level3.level3.net (213.244.165.246) 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms
      6 bcr1-so-3-0-0.Amsterdam.cw.net (208.173.211.237) 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms
      7 dcr2-loopback.SantaClara.cw.net (208.172.146.100) 156 ms 156 ms 156 ms
      8 ibr01-p4-0.sntc08.exodus.net (208.172.156.198) 156 ms 156 ms 156 ms
      9 dcr02-g2-0.sntc08.exodus.net (66.35.194.4) 156 ms 156 ms 156 ms
      10 csr02-ve242.sntc08.exodus.net (66.35.194.59) 157 ms 157 ms 157 ms
      11 66.35.210.202 (66.35.210.202) 158 ms 158 ms 158 ms

    2. Re:Serious question by swb · · Score: 4, Informative

      It appears worse for me in the midwest.

      At work (dual T1s): ~45ms to the old one, ~80ms to the new one.

      At Home (DSL): ~75ms old, ~150ms to the new one, twice as bad.

      It doesn't help that I don't get to Cable & Wireless except by going to Chicago. Going east it was on the way, going west its just a needless round trip.

    3. Re:Serious question by Hard_Code · · Score: 5, Funny

      Omigod there is a 70 ms latency difference! Now Slashdot will lose that 70 ms jump it had on the competition!

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    4. Re:Serious question by zmooc · · Score: 3, Informative

      From my box @ surfnet.nl the "old" slashdot is 16 hops away and has avg. ping-times of 92ms. The "new" slashdot is 14 hops away and has avg. ping-times of 156ms. So its latency is over 50% higher (OMFG:D) but it's 2 possible points of failure closer:) Ofcourse this will totally depend on which network you're on as you can see from another reply.

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  7. Just in case... by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 5, Funny

    Here's the text of the website, just in case it gets slashdotted:

    Have you Meta Moderated recently?
    This page was generated by a Flock of Elite Mummies for American AC in Paris (230456).

    Smells like...
    NewsPosted by krow on Tuesday October 29, @09:45
    from the 40-thousand-years-we-have-been-painting-in-caves dept.
    Is this working, fee, fi, foe, fum....

    ( Read More... | 0 of 1 comment )
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    Jos Louis writes "Apple has released the x86 version 6.0.2 of Darwin, the FreeBSD-based core of Mac OS X Jaguar. You can download the bootable ISO from here." Commence the raising of the roof ... now! ...

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  8. Yup, its working by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    All I see is duplicate stories. Seems like business as usual.

  9. Load test is inverted by Illuminati+Member · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wouldn't it be a better load test to make www.slashdot.org the load testing server, and old.slashdot.org the server to go to if something breaks?

    Honestly, you aren't getting a good load test by putting up a link (at least, not a good 'slashdot' loadtest).

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    1. Re:Load test is inverted by saskboy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I don't even see why they need a live load test. They should be able to tell from the stats on the main slashdot page how much bandwidth they will need to run the new site.
      In fact I've wondered just how /. avoids the "effect" while, sites they link to go down. Is /. the only decent server on the planet?

      What are you doing posting here anyway? Get over to the new site and help break it with everyone else. ;-)

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  10. FYI reupdate the message inbox of users by sielwolf · · Score: 5, Informative

    I checked out the brak./. and found old messages in my inbox. I'd prefer not to get deluged with old messages after the move occurs.

    Just thought you should know in case you didn't know already (?).

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  11. Yummy! by metalhed77 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I live in LA, this is about twice as snappy as the current server is. time wget slashdot.org is about .9 ms slower than brak. Sux0rs to be east coast ;)

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  12. What will this do to the uptime!? by Dragon218 · · Score: 4, Funny

    As of now, the slashdot stats box is reporting over 405 days of uptime. You're not going to lose that over a move are you?! *sob* I hope not.

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  13. Re:Why is it moving? (nc) by Louis_Wu · · Score: 5, Informative

    Check out CmdrTaco's Journal for the answer. OSDN is consolidating servers.

  14. Hey Gang! Perhaps it's time to fix the flag icon! by teamhasnoi · · Score: 3, Informative
    Just a thought - since I sent you guys a nice replacement. ;)

    Quick!! Get all your meta discussions in while there still is time!

  15. Misunderstanding by linuxwrangler · · Score: 5, Funny

    To: Tech department

    From: Management

    Moving all the data from the East to the West is NOT what we meant when we said "copyleft"!

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  16. I've seen duplicate stories before... by teamhasnoi · · Score: 4, Funny

    but this is unbefsckingleivable!

  17. brak.slashdot.org?!?!?!? by maynard · · Score: 4, Informative

    Is this a reference to ?!?!?!?!

    Heh. Adult Swim. Next time are you going to name the server "Master Shake"?!?!?!?! :)

  18. Wierd thing just happened by elliotj · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't know it's related but I just saw an Ask Slashdot about daylight savings pop up. When I clicked through it gave me an error and now it's gone.

    Does this have anything to do with the test? Or with Daylight Savings perhaps?

  19. Mirror by ItWasThem · · Score: 5, Funny

    Glad to see Slashdot finally mirroring a site they link to for once...

  20. Recipe for saving uptime by LinuxGeek · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I once moved a server by dropping to init 1; setting HD sleep timeout to 5sec and moving the sever and extended runtime ups as a unit. That way we kept the 300 day uptime. :) Yes, it was a short move and only took about 30 minutes.

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  21. Moderators: by Neil+Blender · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you are a moderator, you have 5 fresh points waiting for you on the new server. You can use them there without affecting the number of points you have on this server. One of the very few times you get 10 points instead of 5.

  22. I likes the new slashdot! by cygnus · · Score: 3, Interesting
    You have 30 Moderator Points! Use 'em or lose 'em!
    schwing! since this is a beta, can i moderate irrationally with impunity?
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  23. woohooo by teslatug · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just got my first mod points from the new site. I wish Slashdot would move more often :)

  24. I imagine it won't make much difference by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 5, Informative

    The new server is kinda having the crap beat out of it right now making ping comparisions a little irrelivant, however I find that generally traffic to and form Europe varies little based on geographic location. Basically, your signal is going to have to hop around europe till it hits a transcontential cable, then back around till it hits exodus. Most of the time taken will be in getting the signal to their network, where specifically in their network it has to go will make little difference.

  25. different engine by Ubergrendle · · Score: 5, Funny

    brak.slashdot.org is apparently generated via a pack of "Flying Albino Monkeys", whereas the existing server is created via a "Team of Elite Squirrels". Anyone got some performance metrics of Monkeys vs Squirrels, and more importantly, can Monkeys be overclocked?

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  26. Let's be realistic... by tunabomber · · Score: 3, Funny
    brak is a sandbox. brak is to slashdot what a stress-relief doll is to your boss. Or, what GTA3 is to driving in real life.
    So, I think what they really meant it to say was:

    You have 30 Moderator Points! Abuse 'em or lose 'em!


    Too... much... power... Anyone else feeling drunk?
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  27. You have to admit... by Bobulusman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What better way to field test a server than to give every /. member 30 points and watch them waste several hours loading and reloading to mod!! Not to mention all the people who only read occasionally and are showing up just to see the fireworks....

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  28. Full text of article in case it gets slashdotted.. by techstar25 · · Score: 4, Funny

    We're moving the Slashdot cluster from Exodus East to Exodus West in the next couple days. In good Slashdot Tradition, we've opened up brak.slashdot.org for you to help load test the new cluster. Currently its almost an exact copy of our existing setup (missing a couple of webheads which will be up soon). The actual move will occur late at night (most likely tonight or tomorrow depending on how things go), and will hopefully involve only a few minutes of downtime as we copy the last of the data over the continent. Thanks for your help.

  29. Exodus by Ratbert42 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Holy crap! Exodus is still in business?

  30. It's a mad house over there... by Bobulusman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It seems that all the insane people are now on the new server. The mods being thrown around do not seem to make any sense.

    Especially when two of my posts (very on topic, legitimate) were both modded +2 troll.... Odd....

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  31. Brak is down! 3:27 PM CST by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think the raging debate over daylight savings time was just too much for the poor server.

  32. Re:You have 30 Moderator Points! Use 'em or lose ' by TheGreatGraySkwid · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "Is this a bug in the slashcode or what? I thought you could only get 5 modpoints at a time... and my "points" don't show up on regular /.

    Insight anyone? Will i get $rtbl for going on a modding spree?"
    Don't be silly. They *want* you to moderate the hell out of things, in part to stress the system, and in part to encourage all the trolls to do their thing (stressing the system).

    Interestingly, I used all 30 points, did my Meta-modding, and then came back a bit later to find I then had 60 points!
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  33. RIP Brak by Mr.+Sketch · · Score: 3, Funny

    Brak: Faithfully served pages from 12:11MST to 2:38MST. We shall miss him.

  34. Frankly, I found it easy to break. by AtariDatacenter · · Score: 4, Funny

    You'll find a few of these posts on the brak server itself (when it comes back to life). The code went something like this:

    while [ 1 ]
    do
    wget "http://brak.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/10/29/ 2028219&mode=thread&tid=124" & [--- Remove the extra space in the middle ---]
    echo "hello"
    done

    I run that on an Ultra Enterprise 10000 with a 100mbit/full network drop (not the best network connection but my gigabit ether boxes were doing "real" work). Because this system had 4gb of RAM in it, Maxusers was very high, which resulted in the maxprocs being very high. And the kernel seemed to work very well under that kind of pressure.

    Then, for fun, add in another box or two. Presto! Instant simulated Slashdot effect. But then again, I happen to be using a MASSIVE network connection from a very well-known telco. So that gives me a big advantage over most people.

    Lesson learned: Wow. I can slashdot Slashdot itself.

  35. Re:Can Slashdot slashdot Slashdot? by Dannon · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well, unless Taco's decided Brak's had enough of a workout and taken it down without notice, I'd say we've been successful.

    Once again, the power of countless geeks wasting time online has been demonstrated. We must always remember that this power can be used for good... or evil....

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  36. Jeez... by Twintop · · Score: 3, Funny

    Slashdotting a Slashdot Server in just over 3 hours? Wow...

  37. Messaging Weirdness by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 4, Informative
    There's some messaging weirdness going on here...

    For some reason when I log onto the brak site, it says I have one new message but in fact there are no new messages! And for some reason, a tab for user number 178529 shows up in my account page in addition to my own information. All of this seems to have infested my account on the old server too. (This is real, I am not trying to make a lame joke.)

    Could this be a newly identified issue with the server move?