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Slashdot is Moving. Help Load Test!
We're moving the Slashdot cluster from Exodus East to Exodus West in the next couple days. In good Slashdot Tradition, we've opened up brak.slashdot.org for you to help load test the new cluster. Currently its almost an exact copy of our existing setup (missing a couple of webheads which will be up soon). The actual move will occur late at night (most likely tonight or tomorrow depending on how things go), and will hopefully involve only a few minutes of downtime as we copy the last of the data over the continent. Thanks for your help.
Load test indeed!
Someone please post mirrors!
One future, two choices. Oppose them or let them destroy us.
..is slashdots design. Its time, dont you think ?
This paid my last vacation, it mi
.....the hardware required to run slashdot.
Its been asked by me before - and I am sure many others...
can you please give us a rundown on what Slashdot physically and technically looks like?
It'll only take three hams to kill it.
Three hams!!!
You guys got another one called Zorak?
In the free world the media isn't government run; the government is media run.
Since you're apparently in a "meta" mood, can you tell me what happened to Jon Katz? I miss him.
Karma: Good (despite my invention of the Karma: sig)
Does this mean that response times will be worse for Europeans? Or does modern routing make that irrelevant?
Here's the text of the website, just in case it gets slashdotted:
... now! ...
Have you Meta Moderated recently?
This page was generated by a Flock of Elite Mummies for American AC in Paris (230456).
Smells like...
NewsPosted by krow on Tuesday October 29, @09:45
from the 40-thousand-years-we-have-been-painting-in-caves dept.
Is this working, fee, fi, foe, fum....
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Apple: Darwin 6.0.2 for x86 Released!?!?!?!
OS X (Apple)Posted by pudge on Monday October 28, @16:24
from the foo-on-you-in-th'-hizouse-yo-yo dept.
Jos Louis writes "Apple has released the x86 version 6.0.2 of Darwin, the FreeBSD-based core of Mac OS X Jaguar. You can download the bootable ISO from here." Commence the raising of the roof
Obliteracy: Words with explosions
All I see is duplicate stories. Seems like business as usual.
Wouldn't it be a better load test to make www.slashdot.org the load testing server, and old.slashdot.org the server to go to if something breaks?
Honestly, you aren't getting a good load test by putting up a link (at least, not a good 'slashdot' loadtest).
Yeah, I'm a Republican AND a geek. It is possible.
I checked out the brak./. and found old messages in my inbox. I'd prefer not to get deluged with old messages after the move occurs.
Just thought you should know in case you didn't know already (?).
What is music when you despise all sound?
So will slashdot be slasdotted? Is that even possible considering slashdot is in sort of a permanent state of slashdottedness?
I live in LA, this is about twice as snappy as the current server is. time wget slashdot.org is about .9 ms slower than brak. Sux0rs to be east coast ;)
Photos.
As of now, the slashdot stats box is reporting over 405 days of uptime. You're not going to lose that over a move are you?! *sob* I hope not.
"It's the little touches that make a future solid enough to be destroyed" --William S. Bourroughs
Check out CmdrTaco's Journal for the answer. OSDN is consolidating servers.
Quick!! Get all your meta discussions in while there still is time!
Load test? I mean, in order to do that you'd have to be running some sort of website which got a lot of people to click on a link at once. It would have a large effect on slashdot, some sort of "Slashdot effect", if you will.
I just don't think we can manage it.
-Denor
To: Tech department
From: Management
Moving all the data from the East to the West is NOT what we meant when we said "copyleft"!
~~~~~~~
"You are not remembered for doing what is expected of you." - Atul Chitnis
but this is unbefsckingleivable!
Is this a reference to ?!?!?!?!
:)
Heh. Adult Swim. Next time are you going to name the server "Master Shake"?!?!?!?!
I don't know it's related but I just saw an Ask Slashdot about daylight savings pop up. When I clicked through it gave me an error and now it's gone.
Does this have anything to do with the test? Or with Daylight Savings perhaps?
I am on a fast pipe in Raleigh, NC and the elapsed load time went from .32s @ slashdot.org to .52s @ brak.slashdot.org. Not really a huge jump, but enough to notice on large page loads. The hops did drop from 20 to 18, fewer routers to break!
Kindness is the language which the deaf can hear and the blind can see. - Mark Twain
It was on the front page and I had a Funny/Insightful/Interesting/Underrated comment but by the time I had entered it, the story had disappeared.
I have discovered a truly marvelous sig, unfortunately the sig limit is too small to contain i
Glad to see Slashdot finally mirroring a site they link to for once...
Does this have anything to do with the "story" on DST that disappeared mysteriously?
Gamingmuseum.com: Give your 3D accelerator a rest.
Others than the webheads looks mighty fine. Anyone can comment what hardware differences it has running in comparision of the current east coast one? Thanks
NO! NO! Please don't mod me, I'm too young to die a troll. *click* Oh the pain, the pain...
Cable and Wireless West? ;)
..There's a-dooin's a-transpirin'
On the 'new' server, I have five Moderator points which I actually spent this morning on this server :)
Ch-ching!
"Hey! Unless this is a nude love-in, get the hell off my property!!"
I once moved a server by dropping to init 1; setting HD sleep timeout to 5sec and moving the sever and extended runtime ups as a unit. That way we kept the 300 day uptime. :) Yes, it was a short move and only took about 30 minutes.
Kindness is the language which the deaf can hear and the blind can see. - Mark Twain
What happened to the Daylight Savings Time article?
sulli
RTFJ.
Slashdot completely broken in aborted switch over test. News at 11. Maybe?....
Humm, I have moderator access on the new Slashdot and not here...
Secondly, did you know 'brak' is Dutch, and literally means 'something that sucks'? Seems appropriate since people complain it is slashdotted [even though it works for me!]
If you are a moderator, you have 5 fresh points waiting for you on the new server. You can use them there without affecting the number of points you have on this server. One of the very few times you get 10 points instead of 5.
Just raise the taxes on crack.
You have 30 Moderator Points! Use 'em or lose 'em!
As good a person as I am, with plenty of karma etc, I am not quite sure I deserve 30 free mod points on the new system. Oh well, "Use 'em or lose 'em." ^_^
Just got my first mod points from the new site. I wish Slashdot would move more often :)
Interestingly enough, I've never had moderator access here on Slashdot, even though I metamod whenever I can.
;)
Well, I clicked on the link to brak, and I immediately got moderator access... except the points say that they expire on 1970-01-03. I also seem to have 30 moderator points. Er, not good.
I'll use my points anyway...
Simpli - Your source for San Jose dedicated servers and colocation!
Move out west. The west is the best, baby!
The new server is kinda having the crap beat out of it right now making ping comparisions a little irrelivant, however I find that generally traffic to and form Europe varies little based on geographic location. Basically, your signal is going to have to hop around europe till it hits a transcontential cable, then back around till it hits exodus. Most of the time taken will be in getting the signal to their network, where specifically in their network it has to go will make little difference.
I would also like to know why Slashdot is suddenly pandering to the Silicon Valley crowd by moving the servers to the West Coast, leaving us Right Coasters with high latency and slow connections (than usual, I mean).
Well, it's only fair, after you Easterners complained about how boring the World Series was because there were no New York teams! BTW, you guys missed an INCREDIBLE series!!!!
Fascism starts when the efficiency of the government becomes more important than the rights of the people.
That's way better than the sicko Mac porn Slashdot posted a couple of days ago.
brak.slashdot.org is apparently generated via a pack of "Flying Albino Monkeys", whereas the existing server is created via a "Team of Elite Squirrels". Anyone got some performance metrics of Monkeys vs Squirrels, and more importantly, can Monkeys be overclocked?
John Maynard Keynes: "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do?"
Well, I just stumbled into the test site and suddenly had 25 or so moderator points...such an orgy of excessive, freakish moderation you never did see! People went up! People went down!
Head over there, bang on the system. It's fun to play God for a few minutes.
So, I think what they really meant it to say was:
You have 30 Moderator Points! Abuse 'em or lose 'em!
Too... much... power... Anyone else feeling drunk?
pi = 3.141592653589793helpimtrappedinauniversefactory7
http://saveie6.com/
What better way to field test a server than to give every /. member 30 points and watch them waste several hours loading and reloading to mod!! Not to mention all the people who only read occasionally and are showing up just to see the fireworks....
Cogito ergo sum in Slashdot.
I feel so..... powerful
"However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation."
What you really should do to test this server is load a quake 3 and unreal tournament 2003 server on it, then ask someone (or someones, like all of slashdot's readership) to DDoS the new server, like they have done to many servers, large and small, in the past.
i -ab
s /
Or you could just do network load testing by playing a large number of fps games on a locally-connected network segment.
Additionally, as I crafted this little response... How about using Apache Bench? http://codeflux.com/ab/ is a gateway for it.
Tsunami-bench is a front-end
http://sourceforge.net/projects/tsunam
BenJaws is another front-end
http://sourceforge.net/projects/benjaw
Run those a few times...
fair.org counterpunch.com truthout.com indymedia.org salon.com
eff.org guerrilla.net debian.org gentoo.org
Just performed a search and got the following error:
Searching For: linux kernel
HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:04:07 GMT Server: Apache/1.3.26 (Unix) mod_gzip/1.3.19.1a mod_perl/1.27 mod_ssl/2.8.10 OpenSSL/0.9.6g X-Powered-By: Slash 2.003000 Connection: close Transfer-Encoding: chunked Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
OK
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, pater@slashdot.org and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
I'm not getting any response at all right now.
Could we see a MRTG report or other type of traffic analysis when you're done? I love to see pretty charts of servers getting beat up.
In the words of Ozzy Osbourne, wha?
I really hate signatures, but go to my website.
In addition, because most people suddenly have 30 mod points a piece on brak, I just had my first post ever marked as a Troll: here. It's moderation totals are as follows: Flamebait=1, Troll=3, Redundant=1, Insightful=1, Interesting=1, Informative=2, Funny=1, Overrated=2, Total=12. Wow. It was just a little comment about the server working and hoping the actual moves goes smoothly.
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"Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong." --Dennis Miller
Slashcode + Kuro5hin content = brak.slashdot.org
We're moving the Slashdot cluster from Exodus East to Exodus West in the next couple days. In good Slashdot Tradition, we've opened up brak.slashdot.org for you to help load test the new cluster. Currently its almost an exact copy of our existing setup (missing a couple of webheads which will be up soon). The actual move will occur late at night (most likely tonight or tomorrow depending on how things go), and will hopefully involve only a few minutes of downtime as we copy the last of the data over the continent. Thanks for your help.
And I still had 13 Mod points left and tons more witticisms to unleash. . .
You are not the customer.
-B
Ash and Hickory, straight-grained and true, make excellent bludgeons, dandy for the cudgeling of vegetarians.
SMOKE!
Creationists are a lot like zombies. Slow, but powerful and numerous. And they all want to eat our brains.
... my [b]Karma:[/b] is still just "Excellent".
Holy crap! Exodus is still in business?
It seems that all the insane people are now on the new server. The mods being thrown around do not seem to make any sense.
Especially when two of my posts (very on topic, legitimate) were both modded +2 troll.... Odd....
Cogito ergo sum in Slashdot.
WHAT THE FUCK!! I wrote this BEFORE the first post was even up, and I'm modded redundant?? Give me a fucking break you assholes!
"Ask not what your country can do for you." --John F. Kennedy
Is this a bug in the slashcode or what? I thought you could only get 5 modpoints at a time... and my "points" don't show up on regular /.
Insight anyone? Will i get $rtbl for going on a modding spree?
I hereby place the above post in the public domain.
Wow, I've got thirty moderator points on brak! Let's move on over!
It's all going according to
Neo: Whoa, deja vu.
Trinity: What did you just say?
Neo: Nothing, I just had a little deja vu.
Trinity: What did you see?
Cypher: What happened?
Neo: A black cat went past us, and then another that looked just like it.
Trinity: How much like it, was it the same cat?
Neo: Might have been, I'm not sure.
Morpheus: Switch, Apoc.
Neo: What is it?
Trinity: Deja vu is usually a glitch in the matrix. It happens when they change something.
-"...bad old ideas look confusingly fresh when they are packaged as technology" - Jaron Lanier (Digital Maoism on Edge.o
The IP octet in a Slashdot post didn't point to goatse.cx for a change.
Do a traceroute against brak.slashdot.org and you'll find the response time shoots up 1500% in Cable & Wireless's Santa Clara subnet.
This isn't an Exodus problem. This is a classical C&W problem.
500 Internal Server Error on brak...looks like it could be a problem.
SIGFAULT
I think the raging debate over daylight savings time was just too much for the poor server.
Interestingly, I used all 30 points, did my Meta-modding, and then came back a bit later to find I then had 60 points!
The Humblest Mollusk on the Net
Brak: Faithfully served pages from 12:11MST to 2:38MST. We shall miss him.
Things you think are in the Constitution, but are not.
According to a post by krow which might be this one, and definately can be found as a link here (if you can ever get the server to respond- I can't), mod points, karma, and presumably meta-mods, will not carry over to the "real" slashdot.
This makes for a kind of free-for-all. Mod points distributed in blocks of 30 and trolls given the +1 bonus also makes for more traffic.
You'll find a few of these posts on the brak server itself (when it comes back to life). The code went something like this:
/ 2028219&mode=thread&tid=124" & [--- Remove the extra space in the middle ---]
while [ 1 ]
do
wget "http://brak.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/10/29
echo "hello"
done
I run that on an Ultra Enterprise 10000 with a 100mbit/full network drop (not the best network connection but my gigabit ether boxes were doing "real" work). Because this system had 4gb of RAM in it, Maxusers was very high, which resulted in the maxprocs being very high. And the kernel seemed to work very well under that kind of pressure.
Then, for fun, add in another box or two. Presto! Instant simulated Slashdot effect. But then again, I happen to be using a MASSIVE network connection from a very well-known telco. So that gives me a big advantage over most people.
Lesson learned: Wow. I can slashdot Slashdot itself.
I submitted this story two weeks ago, and it was rejected!
Well, unless Taco's decided Brak's had enough of a workout and taken it down without notice, I'd say we've been successful.
Once again, the power of countless geeks wasting time online has been demonstrated. We must always remember that this power can be used for good... or evil....
Good judgment comes from experience.
Experience comes from bad judgment.
.. can you add some more power to wherever it's currently lacking? I found /. to be less responsive as of lately. Maybe you can merge both older and newer hardware to double the overall capacity? ;)
Btw, something tells me brak is not ready for prime time..
have you been defaced today?
Slashdotting a Slashdot Server in just over 3 hours? Wow...
I find it funny that that was the first person in the thread to ask why Slashdot was moving servers.
:^)
I guess the rest of the readers figured why not? Typical geeks.
[PowerPoint] is a tool for capitalist presentation
For some reason when I log onto the brak site, it says I have one new message but in fact there are no new messages! And for some reason, a tab for user number 178529 shows up in my account page in addition to my own information. All of this seems to have infested my account on the old server too. (This is real, I am not trying to make a lame joke.)
Could this be a newly identified issue with the server move?
It says I have 30 moderator points! I feel so powerful!
:-)
What can I do with that many points? Can I post my own articles?
er, guys, what on earth is your issue?
its a website. does it really matter how fast you can access it? its a static website. who cares how fast you can ping it. if its taking to long to load, turn your head then look back and you won't notice. besides, we're talking milliseconds. you can't say millisecond in a millisecond!
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And posting a comment (or logging in while previewing) times out. Previewing anonymously works, though.
Okay, I have 5 mod points or regular slashdot.
But on Brak, I have thirty.
Original message: here
.5 seconds).
;)
(Probably will not be available in the future after the migration.)
My reply:
I'm sure I could do better with some tweaking. I benchmarked against the same URL as the original tester. But then again, the URL probably has more data attached now, and there is less traffic on the server.
I did the ab command:
ab -c 200 -n 1000
The result was 11952 kbits of traffic received.
(Assuming 1kbyte=8kbits. Ab gives results in kbytes/second, so I'm multiplying the results by 8 to get kbits.)
Then, I took two different E10ks in two different datacenters with semi-diverse paths to brak. Woah! One had a duplex issue. I fixed it on the fly. I ran the same command on both of them at *about* the same time (+/-
Server #1: 6138kbits/sec
Server #2: 6556kbits/sec
TOTAL 1+2: 12694kbits/sec
At the very same time, within those datacenter's networks, I browsed other (non-slashdot) off-site web pages during the test with no problem... bandwidth was ample to the outside world. I used a third connection (local ISP) to visit brak with a web browser. Brak wasn't serving pages during the test. Although not scientific, what this tells me is that the limitation was at the Slashdot test server farm.
The maximum throughput of the new servers is in the *neighborhood* of 12Mbps for dynamic pages. Requests per second under high load (in several tests) was a low number approaching 20 requests/second.
I did a quick test against a story of about the same size on the live production slashdot. (Sorry, scientific curiousity... I did lower the count, though, to minimize impact.) The transfer rate was a bit higher... 12896kbps. Requests per second was lower... around 13. But then again, it does have a greater load on it right now and people actually using it.
So those are my results.
Bigoted summary: You need a better server farm for your dynamic pages. Have you considered an E10k farm with large cached fiber storage towers and big network pipes?
Inspired by brak.slashdot.org, Fox will be airing, "When Moderators Attack"
Watch the battle here.
This Karma Whore is having one topsy turvy day:
Moderation Totals: Offtopic=3, Flamebait=8, Troll=13, Redundant=3, Insightful=5, Interesting=25, Informative=3, Funny=2, Overrated=8, Underrated=1, Total=71.
__ Someday, but not this morning, I'll finally learn to use the preview button.
hehe, the ugly part is debatable.
150K miles is hardly any for a Volvo.
For that cheap (at any price really), would a radio really influence your decision to buy the car?
However I completely agree that all automatics suck and should only be driven by people with no arms.
THERE IS NO DATA. THERE IS O
Why beat around in the bush with a public announcement when you can just write a virus to DDOS yourselves? :)
"No problem. I have the capacity to do infinite work so long as you don't mind that my quality approaches zero."-Dilbert
I thought it was hosted by a kid in Afghanistan running a TI or Amiga or whatever it was on a 9600 baud modem.
Shhhhhh! Keep quiet! All those computers are just cardboard mockups with a few flashing lights! It's all a tax dodge while the real work gets done on that Amiga. Admittedly it's overclocked to the max...
So then, you've been to Orlando too!