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Mesa 5.0 Released
Eugenia writes "Mesa 5.0 has been released. It implements the OpenGL 1.4 specification." There's more information as to what's been fixed/added/changed on their SF.net project page.
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lick it you dirty, dirty boys
mesa sucks compared to dx 9.
I heard that a lot of GNOME code went into the Mesa repository not long ago.
a NoPorkBeasts.Com public service announcement
As many of you know Land Whales come in many shapes and sizes, this is also true about their personalities. Here at North American Anti Pork Beast Society we have gone to great lengths to study the Greater Northern American Homo-Erectus-Sapian-Glutonous, and discovered several subspecies with in the main Pork Beast group. We have gathered all the information and put it in a chart to help you the American public recognize what type of lard monster you are dealing with.
Happy Smiling Pork Beast: (laeta risum intransit petaso beluae) AKA: HappyFatty or Tons'O'fun
These monsters are the way we often think about fat asses, happy and smiling full of joy. Always appear to be laughing and having a good time in general. Often seen around skinny women, making light of the situation. This is a ploy, this landwhale is plotting against you and using a happy demeanor to get you to put your guard down. Often uses hot women to attract men to her, these skinny women have no idea how much danger they are in. This beast is using them to attack not only a mate, but food. One of the most dangerous porkers often found in bar or clubs. They pray on the drunkenness of the homo-sapian male. The best way to combat them is always drink with friends, make sure your one of your friends isn't drinking, and always know where the exits are in the location.
Sully Sulking Land Whale: (reclamitare sulka terra pistricis orca) AKA: Depressed about her weight or Just needs some love
Often seen in a depressed state these lard eaters have been know to cry at the drop of a hat. They normally hunt by themselves and sit in public areas looking sorry for themselves. Although they appear to be a non-threat, they are very dangerous. Often pray on people who want to help and when they get close enough to the creature an eat attack normally occurs. They are very slow and can be stopped with quick movements and attention be brought to them. They do not like to be found out and will leave the area if exposed.
Angry militant Fat Monster: (iracundae pilus adipatus prodigium) AKA: Naafa Underling, Tons'O'Anger and Card Carry Member of Naafa
A highly dangerous sub species of the Pork Beast. These creatures believe that not only it okay to be fat, but fat is better. They are often seen making a scene where ever they go, making unreasonable threats backed up with false information about the law. They love the attention and will not stop the attack until something else catches their small minded attention. These beast also have a huge amount of time which allows them to surf the web and write books of information on things that no one really cares about. These beast will not attack individuals but rather an establishment. They feel they are never wrong and the world must change to accommodate them. The best way to combat these nasty beasties is to carry shinny things, all dumb animals love shiny things. Never ever argue the facts with these creatures since they have been know to attack even in public when flustered with truth.
Crying like a little bitch Pork beast: (vagitus canicula petaso beluae) AKA: Teary eyed, Oh look the fat girl is crying, and oh look what you have done
Not to be confused with the Sully Sulking Land Whales, these flabby arms use tears to get what ever they want. If something is not going there way they will turn on the water works and cry until they get what they asked for or wanted. Often see with chocolate around their fat face they appear to be truly pathetic animals. These monster usually pray on the feelings of over sensitive people and girlfriends. Like the Militant fatties they believe they are always right, but use tears to get what they want. These creatures do not normally eat attack humans but will ask for food when a person helps them.
Baby Eaters: (infantis comedesse) AKA: The Fat Day care worker, Fat Baby Sitter, and the Chubby Girl who will watch your kids
The most dangerous of all the fatties, these monsters eat the young not only of humans but of cats and dogs too. They often appear as a Happy Smiling beasties but are not accompanied by the hot girls. They will smile and entertain your children and lead you to believe they care. They will build your trust and get you to leave your kids with them. They never eat with in the first few years of using them, but often kiss the children to taste them. Once they believe the child is ripe will eat it and disappears. They often eat as many as 12-13 babies in a year. When not eating children will eat puppies and kittens. They say the meat is soft and juicy. The best way to protect yourself is never to leave your children unattended around fat people. Although Baby eaters choose this as a lifestyle, all fatties will eat babies given half the chance.
Proud to be Me Fatty: (celsus actito apud unguinis) AKA: Naafa Admin, Guest Speakers, Fat is Great, and Naafa Ministers of Propaganda
These are the leading party of all the sub species. These monsters are not on;y devious but also accomplice all the other species in one. They often seen leading other soldier fatties around and seem to have mind control over them. They will eat attack when hungry, yell and scream when needed and cry if it is called for. These porkers are the most intelligent of the porkbeasts with IQ's as high as 70 they are the ruling party. Although rare can be found where ever fat people gather, i.e. all you can eat restaurant, amusement and water parks, Naafa conventions, and chubby chaser parties.
Hopefully this will help you recognize these awful creatures and keep you safe. Remember never approach a pork beast alone and always be aware when pork beasts are around.
Copyright 2002 North American Anti-Porkbeast Society. Everything you see on this page is owned by NoPorkbeasts.com/NAAPBS/Cobra. We will not sue you if you steal any of our images or intellectual property, but we will damn sure track your ass down and beat the living shit out of out.
1: Write free software.
2: ?
3: Download and play around with Mesa.
4: Profit!
When will Mesa 5.0 be incorporated into Debian stable?
So that's all it takes, eh?
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the pen is mightier than the sword, the sword is mightier than the court, the court is mightier than the pen.
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Multiply the version number by 2.333435 to get FPS
Was I the only person who thought of this song when I read this article (I hope not, lest I get modded as 'offtopic' :0)
The mama pajama rolled out of bed
And she ran to the police station
When the papa found out he began to shout
And he started the investigation
It's against the law
It was against the law
What mama saw
It was against the law
The mama looked down and spit on the ground
Every time my name gets mentioned
The papa said oy if I get that boy
I'm gonna put him in the house of detention
Well I'm on my way
I don't know where I'm going
I'm on my way I'm taking my time
But I don't know where
Goodbye to Rosie the queen of Corona
See you, me and Julio
Down by the schoolyard
See you, me and Julio
Down by the schoolyard
Me and Julio down by the schoolyard
In a couple of days they come and
Take me away
But the press let the story leak
And when the radical priest
Come to get me released
We was all on the cover of Newsweek
And I'm on my way
I don't know where I'm going
I'm on my way I'm taking my time
But I don't know where
Goodbye to Rosie the queen of Corona
See you, me and Julio
Down by the schoolyard
See you, me and Julio
Down by the schoolyard
See you, me and Julio
Down by the schoolyard
When the rhythm calls, the government falls.
Here come the cops From Tokyo to Soweto
Viva la musica
Here is her lame shit bio:
Name: Eugenia Loli-Queru [AKA FAT PIG STUPID BITCH]
Title: Editor-in-Chief [Editor? HAHAHAHA. That's a laugh. Cant spell or speak and is not technical.]
Email: eugenia@osnews.com [fat.pig@goatse.cx]
Personal website: http://www.eugenia.co.uk/
Birthday: 24th May, 1973
Current residence: Foster City (San Francisco Bay Area), CA, USA
Short biography: I worked for 2 years at BeNews, serving the BeOS and its community, and before that I was contributing as a news editor for a well known Gaming news site for about 8 months and I also co- held a fan site (LandOfEden) in the early development days of Lionhead's Black'n'White. For more information about me, you can always check my homepage.
I am Greek and english is not my native language. We do OSNews for fun (however, OSNews takes most of my time every day), so if you have a problem with my spelling and grammar either a) do not come back (spare us and save your time too) b) send me a proofread version of the article in question.
Whining about something I can't radically improve overnight, is not an option.
[osnews.com]
I have to agree. And now for posterity's sake I will post a fine collection of Eugenia treatises.
Ok. I am really getting tired of Slashdot reposting the crap rag OSNEWS on here. Please, PLEASE stop "editors". I don't know which of you has a fetish for Eugenia Loli, but this is supposed to be a Nerds site, not a technically impaired idiot site. Please, I implore you, please, STOP RE-POSTING OSNews *Crap* here. Here stuff is devoid of technical cross examinations, rife with conjecture and poor spelling and grammar, and she does what has long been disallowed here, the censoring of Anonymous Cowards. It is bad enough Slashdot isn't critically edited or reviewed, but in the absence of recourse by a commenting public free from censorship and suppression, OSNews is a totalitarian one way street. Please consider that she is likely to be getting kickback to review and announce things, and with her one way system, she could very well be lying to suit the needs of her underwriters without having recourse.
Hi there fat fucking pig lard
Why does anyone listen to Eugenia fat pig. she is a fucking cunt. Did you ever read her shit in OSNews? she censors out fucking everyone. its worse than the cunt moderation here on Slashdot. dude, it is a sad day here on Slashdot when you listen to a stupid fat bitch who is clearly dumber than any Ziff (Sith Davis) Davis idiot, and dare i say it, even fucking lamer than Jon the Jerkoff Katz.
Eugenia Loli needs to exposed. I will post 3 articles that show how fascist the Greeks can be, and that people like Eugenia perpetrate. Then I will cover My Big Fat Greek Wedding, with Fat being the operative word. Then some random Eugenia quotes. I hate you Eugenia, for being a fascist at OSNEWS. You are a pathetic waif who can not accept dissent, and you dictate to your small and withering community. I hope you get ovarian cancer.
Fat Eugenia Loli's Friends Ban all electronic games by mistake. Its people like Eugenia Loli that show that the formerly great state of Greece has eroded into a festering inbred, stupid hairy totalitarian fucks like herself. Now is the fatty greases sweltering out of her cellulite that makes it seem like Grease would be a more apropro name than Greece.
The Night Defender Fat Eugenia Loli Fat
Sweating and farting nervously on the verge of mental meltdown, ELQ reloads each of her precious OSNews pages, making sure all is well. Fifty Internet Explorer windows are open in Windows XP, it's grinding the hard drive to death. ELQ's cable modem and NIC activity LEDs are nearly solid from the raw frenzy of almost constant browser reloading. Eugenia's eyes twitch rapidly from window to window with Mercurial speed to make sure that any rogue comments do not escape her attention, always hitting her refresh buttons with pinpoint accuracy. No logical order for checking, purely random and impulse driven by raw Mediterranean temper, stopping for the occasional savage bite from a pork loin still affixed to the bone, Eugenia's eyes never leave the monitor.
"N-n-n-n NO! No TIME for Dance Dance Revolution, oh but it's been so long! I cannot allow the BASTARD flooders' comments to be seen. MY DOMAIN IS SACRED!"
Hair is frizzled and days unwashed, ass-crack just barely half wiped in a frenzy to return to her monitor, having taken a large shit earlier. No time to flush! Her armpits are over-ridden with pubic hair, her fat flaps reek of B.O. and yeast from days of neglect and hour upon hour of sweating. Relentless sweating.
"Cannot to be keeps up this pace! I may be need to go to hospital for exhaustions" she pants in desperation, wiping the sweat from a matted hair lock with her week-old t-shirt offering.
The hour of judgment approaches! Comment number 45 in thread 374 is clearly of anti-Greek sentiment! It reads "Eugenia continues to post yet another story that's simply ripped off from other websites. How much longer can this continue? It's my opinion that she has poor editorial skills. I think they should be revoked."
"YOU BASTARD FUCK!", Eugenia erupts in raw hatred, simultaneously ripping a 120 decibel-at-1-meter fart into the back of her chair. "Nobody is to be attack my site!" Eugenia blasts away at 10 words per minute in a barely-coherent broken English. She's on a mission. After several hours, the words on the screen are completely shattered and in disarray, they make no sense. Eugenia is impressed with her English progress and submits her lousy retort. Relaxing only for several seconds to savor the rush, she continues her patrol, sleepless into the night.
Greeks ban electronic games by mistake
Beware Greeks writing laws
By Adamson Rust: Sunday 01 September 2002, 17:40
ONE OF THE SO-CALLED CRADLES of European civilization appears to have got its Aristotle's all in a twist over computer gaming. And mobile phones, for that matter.
The Greek government appears to have lost its marbles.
The government wanted to prevent its people from wasting their money by using electronic slot machines but the democratically appointed government has banned all computer games everywhere by mistake.
And now the cops are raiding Internet cafes to enforce the said SNAFU.
The law, according to our Greek correspondents, prohibits any kind of game that is played on any kind of electronic equipment.
And it appears to have been drafted so loosely that that includes mobile phones.
Theoretically, the cops could bust into people's homes but so far apparently they have arrested Internet cafe owners and customers who were fighting a few rounds of Q3 CTF.
Next thing, the cops will be creeping up on people using their mobile phones just to make sure they're not playing a quick game rather than using them for their real purpose.
Here are some details of the cock up in Greek.
And there's more details about this at the Greek Net Cafe organization.
Give us a glass of hemlock, Socrates!
FAT EUGENIA FAT FAT LARD FAT PORCINE CORPULENT CELLULITE RIDDEN FAT
Eugenia, is that you? I hate you because of the way you censor. I hate you, and if I had to live in your kingdom in real life I would suicide attack you. Your death would be worthy ends to my means.
This is just another example of spineless crap moderation by Eugenia. I hate her fucking fascist fat fronds of celluite dripping down her bones and puddling up near here wrists which hinge har fat sausage fingers.
Mao Tse Tung, Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Pinochet, Mussolini, Marshall Joseph Tito, Slobodan Milosevic, Idi Amin, Ho Chi Minh, Saddam Hussein, Muammar Qaddafi, Juan Peron, Ayatollah Khomeini, Ferdinand Marcos, General Suharto, Pol Pot, Fransisco Franco, and certainly the worst of the bunch, EUGENIA FAT PIG LOLI's editing/moderating [read: censoring] ALL AGREE on ONE THING:
So, you busy little plebian proletariat BITCH, get busy, you have some censoring to do! FUN!
Good job you little neo-commies BITCH, EUGENIA FAT. Don't want to hear the other side, shoot the fucker in the head as an ENEMY OF THE STATE [In this case anyone who seeks to improve the sad state of OSNEWS and its fucking lame conjecture.]
A few haikus to commemorate the sucktitude:
Crack Pipe
Crack smoke wafts though air
Dumb shit LOLI QUERU
Try to suck less, please
Humorless
Crack smoke wafts through air
Humorless LOLI QUERU
Why do you hate me?
The Proletariat
OSnews Commie
LOLI QUERU fears new idea!
Censor him quickly!
Get busy moderating this down, you little minions of the FAT GREASE LORD obedient prefects of the corrupt CUNT, LOLI! You are the vanguards of chunky brown vaginal discharges, and dissent is not allowed!
'My Big Fat Fat.Eugenia.Lard.Greek Wedding' Rolls on
Wed Aug 14, 3:23 PM ET
By ANTHONY BREZNICAN, AP Entertainment Writer
LOS ANGELES (AP) - In a summer of huge movies that last just a few weeks in theaters and are lucky to break even, one little film won't quit.
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The celebration has lasted all summer for "My Big Fat Fat.Eugenia.Lard.Greek Wedding," a micro-budgeted romantic comedy with great word-of-mouth that has steadily climbed from 20th place on the box-office chart to No. 8 last weekend.
The film, about a woman who defies the traditions of her loud Fat.Eugenia.Lard.Greek family by marrying a man who isn't Fat.Eugenia.Lard.Greek, cost only about $5 million to produce. It has collected nearly $45 million since it's April debut, and the end of the honeymoon is nowhere in sight.
"I feel like I connected with absolute strangers across America. That's what I love more than anything," said Nia Vardalos, the star and writer, who adapted the film from her one-woman stage show.
"The money is like, 'Yeah, yeah.'
Vardalos, 39, said she had thought the film would cover its cost and maybe turn a small profit. "I thought I could just die happy that I made a Fat.Eugenia.Lard.Greek-American movie and I actually got to star in it and that's it," she said.
While "Men in Black II" and "Minority Report" have earned three times as much as Vardalos' film, they also cost about 20 times more to produce. Once marketing costs are factored in, those movies will likely show a profit only on home video.
By comparison, "My Big Fat Fat.Eugenia.Lard.Greek Wedding," playing in only 723 theaters, continues to add screens and draw packed houses. Brian Fuson, box-office analyst for The Hollywood Reporter, said it could hold a spot in the top 10 for several more weeks.
"It was a slow roll-out, a few more theaters each week, building its way up," said Fuson. "It's basically what every small independent film hopes will happen."
The project developed after actor Tom Hanks and his wife, Rita Wilson, who is Fat.Eugenia.Lard.Greek-American, saw Vardalos' Los Angeles stage play in 1998. They liked it so much that Hanks purchased the rights through his production company, Playtone Co., and agreed to let Vardalos adapt the story and take the starring role.
Other producers had shown interest in the story, but most wanted to change the family's ethnicity to Hispanic or Italian, saying Fat.Eugenia.Lard.Greeks wouldn't resonate with mainstream audiences, Vardalos said.
"They came to me and said, 'We saw your play,' and it's almost like the subtext was: 'And now we're gonna wreck it,'" Vardalos said. "They said, 'Fat.Eugenia.Lard.Greek, Italian it's the same, isn't it?'"
The difference may just be the details baklava vs. cannoli but Vardalos wanted to express pride in her heritage while poking fun at universal idiosyncrasies: prying parents, overprotective brothers, oddball aunts and uncles, and the ritualistic force-feeding found at big family gatherings.
Raised in Winnipeg, Canada, Vardalos started her career studying musical theater and worked in the box office of the Second City comedy troupe in Chicago. When one of the actors missed a performance one night, she filled in because she knew all the lines.
The next day, the group hired her as a performer, and the rest played out like a Hollywood movie: Among the Second City performers was her future husband, Ian Gomez, who appears in the movie as her fiance's best friend.
Her own traditional Fat.Eugenia.Lard.Greek wedding full of boisterous relatives, oodles of food and the grudging fusion of cultures inspired her stage act.
She is considering a sequel set in Greece, perhaps something along the lines of "My Big Fat Fat.Eugenia.Lard.Greek Honeymoon," and has received numerous other acting offers.
Vardalos is reluctant to specify future plans or take a guess at her movie's final box-office take. She doesn't want to jinx anything.
"I'm a Fat.Eugenia.Lard.Greek tragedian, so we're scared of stuff like that," she said.
What the fuck is this new string of bullshit? FUcking Homos the assfuck editor reposting Eugenia Fat Fucking Pig Loli's crap?
Slashdot. Not just reposting anymore. Reposting what other people repost.
This is fucking trash. This is a mobocratic meritless fuckig grandiose high school project.
What a fucking lame bunch of fucks. You know when this dump finally folds none of these "editor" pukes would be touched by a 50 ft. pole by any institution of journalism.
Fuckin lame.
It'd be interresting to know how this release compares to other OpenGL implementations on Windows. Anyone looked into this?
Why Windows? It's always interresting to see how any open software solutions stack up versus their proprietary cousins on a proprietary system.
.: Max Romantschuk
A good game generally needs a good budget to back it. Open source doesn't make much money, if any. Why spend the cash to port it to an OS with less users who are used to getting everything for free? Loki games being a good example. (Not to mention that everything was always 6 month late.)
The savings come more in the arena of stuff such as scientific visualisation where the licensing fees are huge for stuff like DirectX. This is where MESA may gain popularity. I'm glad to see that MESA is keeping up pretty well with the OpenGL spec. Nice piece of software. It's too bad most of us will not ever have a need to use it.
But the new mesa seems to have intelligent workload distribution between the cpu and the gpu, i e
:). Server gaming woohoo!
glxgears running in a small window - 200 fps, average 2% cpu load(with Mesa 4.1 it was 800 fps 100% load),
running maximized in 1600x1200 - 80 fps, 100% load(exactly as with Mesa 4.1).
And all the games and etc run at exactly the same speeds with less cpu load.
All I can say is this is great - nobody needs insane fps numbers above 100 and it saves cpu for my poor apache running in the background
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Slashdot. Not just reposting anymore. Reposting what other people repost.
This is fucking trash. This is a mobocratic merit less fuckin grandiose high school project.
What a fucking lame bunch of fucks. You know when this dump finally folds none of these "editor" pukes would be touched by a 50 ft. pole by any institution of journalism.
Fuckin lame.
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The lameness filter makes it impossible to post this in any sort of aesthetically-pleasing format. To paraphrase Final Fantasy Tactics, "Blame yourself or Rob." ;)
Mesa sayin yousa people gonna die?!?
Too bad they never got off their fat, zealotted unshaven unwashed asses and fixed the bug in voodoo5 support (fucking motherfucker crashes when in i686 SMP mode switching from OpenGL mode to any other mode -- text or a different OpenGL mode). I reported this bug a looong time ago but obviously nobody gives a rats ass.
P.S. I bought the voodoo 5500 because of 3dfx's support of the Linux community. Then RIGHT AFTER THAT they get bought out by those proprietary whores at NVidia. FUCK!
This sounds like some incredible performance updates. I'm no developer and i know OpenGL only from the client-side but there's a question now: what's missing from this release in comparison with the NVidia-drivers (performance-wise i mean, i know mesa works for _all_ cards) ? Are the NVidia drivers still needed/preferred ? If so, why ? Can this be changed ?
I used to use Mesa years ago as a software-only OpenGL-like API, on a system for which there was no OpenGL implementation, but I was writing code to run on a system that did have it (these were MacOS 7.x and an Indy, if memory serves). But if you have an OpenGL driver, what does Mesa do? Surely the libraries that come with the driver implement the API? Or does it just let you write 1.4 code with a card/driver that only supports up to 1.2 in the hardware, and do the new 1.4 features in software?
and it implements the latest Goatse specs.
1: read underwear-gnomes joke post at work 2:??? 3:whinge!
A good game generally needs a good budget to back it.
A flashy game with a lot of graphics may need a big budget. But those games are not necessarily good, nor do good games necessarily need flashy graphics. For example, many of the movie-tie-in 3D games are financed heavily and anywhere from mediocre to horrible. On the other hand, excellent games like chess or go are of utmost graphical simplicity, and they have been refined over centuries and millenia in a process akin to open source. Furthermore, there are quite a few excellent open source games with minimal graphics and excellent gameplay.
Closed source, heavily financed games satisfy a yearning for novelty. They spend a lot of money on eye candy and pushing technology to the limit. But really good game design is a long-term, open process. For computer games, that has barely begun. I suspect that in another few years, you are going to see open source games whose graphics is simpler than Doom but whose gameplay beats anything commercially available. And closed source games won't be able to compete with that because they simply can't have thousands of game players contributing directly to the evolution of the game.
Open source is slow--but eventually, it gets there, and it usually ends up doing a better job.
Are you a Turk or what's your beef with the greek?
i agree. OpenGL lost the lead a long time ago.
So? Who cares? I'd much rather use an open API than some snazzy, proprietary thing.
Wait for 2.0 to come out. MS is going to lock Linux out of 2.0 as some of the api's are based on dx9
Again, who cares? If MS has the power to lock Linux out of OpenGL 2.0 (through patents?), then open source will just not use it and instead evolve OpenGL 1.* in a different direction.
lightyears behind the "competition"...
OpenGL20 (twenty)
Mesa is very tightly bound to XFree86. Are there instructions out there for how to replace the Mesa that ships with XFree86 4.x with this new version? Does anyone know when XFree86 4.3 is due out and which Mesa version it will have?
I'd like to try this out and see if I can finally get some decent FPS on my Radeon 7000, but I don't want to sacrifice stability by messing with Mesa if I don't know what I'm doing.
-- Craig Howard
After reading comments I want to write just one thing: Mesa is not hardware accelerated. There is no point to compare it with nVidia or ATI closed source drivers, there is no point to compare speed of Mesa and Win OpenGL implementation. You can't play any new game with Mesa, because you will get 1-2fps.
I am not sure why non-developer should download Mesa, probably only if he/she need to run OpenGL application (like Blender for example) and hardware accelerated driver works bad or not exist.
Quite frankly, it doesn't matter if Mesa supported 1.4 or 2.0 or 9.99. It's all software implementation, has no 3D acceleration, so your $500 uber-ATI card runs just as slow as my on-board dell video. How do you code "sucker" ?
"Me-sa like it. Me-sa good!"
why-oh-why is this a troll?
and should you say otherwise, you're flamebaiting.
simple?
Let me point readers to the Mesa FAQ:
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1.2 Does Mesa support/use graphics hardware?
Yes. Specifically, Mesa serves as the OpenGL core for the XFree86/DRI OpenGL drivers.
***
Now, Mesa does *include* a software rendering engine...
This could be what you meant, but this is the first post along the "Mesa is nothing more than a software renderer" lines, and there are a *lot* on here, some of which are definitely wrong.
May we never see th
The NVIDIA drivers accelerate OpenGL on NVIDIA hardware. Mesa, unless it has a mini-driver for your card, is a software implementation of OpenGL. There is no Mesa driver for NVIDIA cards, so the NVIDIA driver is still preferred.
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
you mean "what my pork with the greek."
that fat pork eating fucking gyros bitch cucumber sauce coming out her pussy gives a BAD NAME to the people who burnt troy to the ground. man, if i was Agamemnon and I had to come home to whores like this I would banish them to the Isle of Lesbos. Fat pig bitch.
Hahahahahahahahahaha this is so entertaining. The best stuff i've read for soooo fucking long.
That was ... perhaps the most unintelligible thing i've read in a while.
Well, I'm sorry if you were only partially or improperly educated. It was quite easy to read, spelled properly and more or less grammatically correct. English is evolving so I take liberties that experts may horrified by. Your literacy is not my concern. I take comfort in that fact that you now side step and try to change the nature of this thread now, in this later hour, after I have peeled away the layers and have reached the core, as sad and insignificant as it is. This is when you become evasive and try to deflect the conversation away from your mediocrity, of which you are deeply ashamed. Give my sympathies to those who are proximal to you.
But, all in all, this thread and your comment history is the firmament by which I deconstruct you. You are pathetic. You are a sad, unaccomplished pathetic entity.