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Real PDA Wristwatch

Larry Groebe writes "Just before COMDEX, Fossil announced a new PDA in a wristwatch. Based on the Palm OS, this is nothing less than a complete Palm Pilot on your wrist. See here for features and a picture. This is completely UNLIKE Fossil's *first* attempt at a wrist PDA, which was a hopeless view-only gadget. This new model allows regular Graffiti input and appears to run all Palm programs! At $149, I may be the first in line when it comes out next spring."

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  1. Time Travel Possible??? by Dugsmyname · · Score: 5, Funny

    I thought the Google headline was a little deceiving...

    "Fossil unveils wrist-worn Palm OS PDA"

    It made me think of Back to the Future and all of the time travel Star Trek episodes!

    1. Re:Time Travel Possible??? by scubacuda · · Score: 4, Funny
      When I saw that headline, I expected to see Bob Dole doing some promo with them...

  2. Too small... by gazuga · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't even use a PDA, but looking at that picture, it strikes me that maybe this thing is *too* small. How can you input anything? You'd better be good with a stylus...

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  3. /.'d by cjustus · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wonder if Fossil's website is powered by one of their watches?

  4. I was "THAT guy" by anonymousman77 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was the dorky guy in your school who had the calculator wristwatch.

    Should I try that again with this thing? After the beatings and the finger pointing? I think not!

    1. Re:I was "THAT guy" by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hey man, this is Slashdot. We were all THAT guy :)

      One of my good friends even added some small solar panels to his watch, so it would charge the batteries in the sunlight...

      Of course, the batteries burst and burned a hole in his shirt. But still, very geeky...

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    2. Re:I was "THAT guy" by happystink · · Score: 4, Funny

      If he was truly hardcore, he never would have been able to test it, you need to go outside to see sunlight.

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  5. Redundant by gadgetboy1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While it looks cool and all, it may have hit the market be too late. Cell phones and PDA look to be heading for convergence and almost everyone I know carries a cell phone. Does my watch with its much smaller screen really need to be a (Palm) PDA too? Isn't that why its called a "Palm" and "PocketPC" device?

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  6. More news at infoSync by GrouchoMarx · · Score: 5, Informative

    They've got more news on the new watch, as well as some nice pictures.

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  7. still fails.. by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    and like all the other pda/pc watches it's missing one crucial feature...

    WATERPROOF!

    Why cant they throw in that small and desperately needed thing? It must be waterproof... so I can wear it swimming,snorkling,in the shower... how about just in the shower/tub without fear of it getting killed?

    why cant they do that?

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    1. Re:still fails.. by unicron · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Most people don't recognize the difference between "water-resistant" and "water-proof" when they buy a watch. Water-resistant means that it can survive the shower. If your watch is truly water-proof, then odds are it's a dive watch, and you're going to be spending some bucks.

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    2. Re:still fails.. by shadow303 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why do you wear a watch in the shower? Unless you are timing your spank time, I fail to see why you should be wearing it.

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    3. Re:still fails.. by unicron · · Score: 4, Funny

      Because it looks nice written on the packaging.

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  8. Why they chose Palm OS by Rui+del-Negro · · Score: 5, Funny

    They decided to go with Palm OS because there was no way they could fit Windows CE's EULA into something that small.

    RMN
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  9. Re:Now... by Sir+Homer · · Score: 5, Funny

    Pocket PC? All I need is another thing to be able to BSOD on me... Chick: What time is it? Me: It's *bsod* 4B:1A5EDB1

  10. silly little stylus by The+Fun+Guy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Would anyone seriously use the dinky little stylus that's part of the band? Talk about an ergonomic nightmare (and a choking hazard). Why not just include a selectable-point pen with every watch, that will let you switch between blue/black/red ink and a stylus? That seems to make much more sense from an actual functionality standpoint than that tiny stylus, letting you use the PDA concurrently and seamlessly with more traditional dead-tree technology.

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    1. Re:silly little stylus by spotter · · Score: 4, Interesting

      on the IBM linux watch our experiments seemed to imply that using a wheel that you could scroll around (selecting things) and also "click" was a good comprimise, however, one cant do everything that one would do with a palm w/ a device like that.

      It's like a tradeoff b/w those REX pcmcia devices and a full fledged palm. Do you want something that you aren't going to do full fledged input on (but can input things into), but is mostly for info retrieval, or something that you actually want to do lots of input into.

    2. Re:silly little stylus by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Talk about an ergonomic nightmare (and a choking hazard).

      I don't think you're supposed to hold it in your teeth. I would imagine your fingers would work better.

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  11. Extending the lifespan of the 68000 by dsandler · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's underpowered, sure, but the 68k architecture has been around long enough that, by now, it's a straightforward proposition to manufacture cores at low cost. Device makers are still trying to figure out how to put together ARM devices that land in impulse-buy territory, but Fossil can pack a totally functional 68k PDA into a $150 wristwatch. Nifty.

    1. Re:Extending the lifespan of the 68000 by silvakow · · Score: 4, Funny

      ARM? I thought it was a WRIST architecture!

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  12. Lefties? by bziman · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Waterproof is important... but for something like this, it would also be nice to have a left-handed model -- or a reversible model. I'm sure their engineers could do that. It would suck to have to use the rocker-control with my left thumb instead of my index finger, like designed.

    And what's with the two hour battery life?

    Otherwise, very very cool.

  13. an aggressive strike by Gizzmonic · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Although Fossil brought Palm to the table for this one, does anyone else get the distinct impression that they might be making an end-run into the PDA market?

    Fossil is a hugely popular brand (they even have Fossil stores in airports!) and with the low margins on watches, they might be looking for a new market. I mean, right now, any Taiwanese sweatshop can put together a POS digital watch, hell, some kid in his garage could do that.

    Remember when watches only had an hour and a minute hand? And then all of a sudden, they had a second hand, and now the date, several time zones, "chrono" mode and other stuff.

    The PDA is the next step in complexity and "needed" features for a wristwatch. If Fossil were to come out with its own Palmtop OS, or maybe even take Opie or something, they could ink a deal with a few fortune 500 companies just with the force of their name.

    And what happens at "What's up Wednesday" when your technology-fetishizing boss passes out a gaggle of huge PDA-watches to all the gals in accounting? I think you may have to start firing up the copy machine to print out resumes!

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  14. Re:Linux watch by spotter · · Score: 5, Informative

    I worked on it 2 summers ago at IBM Research (get paid well to work on cool things, who can ask more).

    It was never meant to be an IBM product (at least from my understanding). It was meant to be a sort of cool "testbed" for all these mini technologies. Such as OLEDs (at the time we had the highest density OLED displays in production on our prototypes), mini linux on the software side and similiarly on the hardware side.

    We were also trying to figure out what cool things we could do with it, such as we had a bluetooth module for it, so we initally had a demo of that that one could switch ones slides via the watch's thumbwheel, (so one's giving a talk, and walking around and just tap the watch to switch slides back and forth). But we were experimenting with different things as well, such as imagine sticking a GPS receiver in your backpack while you are hiking and just use the watch as a display for the GPS, it stores the data in the backpack. Since the OLED display was 640x480 (1bpp) it was fairly detailed.

    doing this also involved getting things like PPP working on the watch (which since I had gcc working on our testbed's that had ethernet (nfs mount w/ nfs swap), meant we could get gcc working on the watch, though wouldn't have been so much fun as testbench was 70-80mhz, while watch ran at something like 17mhz (these numbers might be off)

    We were also doing work on getting the system even smaller than it was (glibc's a hog, a simple fix was getting uClibc working on it, I was then able to take this know how to make a bootable linux floppy that boots directly into a windows terminal services server full screen (basically kernel, X, dhcp, rdesktop all on a single bootable floppy) for a school project).

    That summer there was interest from citizen (They actually made some PR announcmenets) in making a product out of it, but dont know whats happened since in regards to that.

    people in charge of IBM Research wanted to put funding behind the watch to give out samples to U's involved in pervasive devices (I believe CMU and Georgia Tech are big into it) to basically have them see what they can do with these pieces of tech, but dont know what's happened on that either.

  15. Against God by L.+VeGas · · Score: 5, Funny

    A palm on the back of your wrist! You know what's next. We'll be eating with our butts and walking on our hands.

  16. Extra Bonus! by edremy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Doubles as a birth control device! Wear one of these puppies and watch the women cross the street to avoid you!

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