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the apple of apple's eye: ellen feiss
... well it's a kind of confusing story, but anyway, they wanted me to be in one of their movies, but since they found out how old I was they don't think I can be in one. Supposedly, though, my agent is "floating my image," quote unquote. I don't know what the hell that means.
.... I thought it was the most boring thing. I got shuttled down to New York, and I got VIP seating, and I was like, "Wow, I'm at the Oscars or something," but then I was like, "No, I'm at Macworld." I met Steve Jobs. He called me by my first name -- clever, huh? It was brief.
her pc crashed, she made the switch, and now she's famous. meet the internet's latest it girl.
By Zachary Frechette
Ellen Feiss is a lot like most 15-year-olds, with one notable exception: Some guy in Holland is wearing a T-shirt with her face on it right now. Actually, a lot of people are wearing that shirt with her picture or drinking coffee from a similarly themed mug purchased on one of Ellen's numerous fan sites. After appearing in a "Switch" ad for Apple computer (www.apple.com/switch/ads), Feiss quickly became an Internet celebrity, spawning stories in newspapers from coast to coast and sparking discussion in chat rooms across the world. There was even a look-alike contest held outside Amsterdam, although most of the entrants were men. Some have argued she seems a bit too, um, light-headed in her commercial, but that hasn't stopped Leno and Letterman from trying to book her (actually, it probably helped). As a sophomore in high school, Ellen still isn't quite sure what to make of her 15 minutes, but between meetings with her agent and MTV executives, she took some time to answer questions for Post-.
How did you get involved with the Apple switch campaign in the first place?
It's kind of a funny story. I'm friends with the son of the director, Errol Morris. I'm friends with his son Hamilton. I went with him after school, him and two of my friends. We didn't think we were going to make ads; we were just going to get the free set food. So we go there, and they're like, "We need a couple more people, so I guess the three of you can make ads." So we all made ads, and me and Hamilton's got picked. I had no idea I was going to do it until I got there.
Is the story you told true?
Oh yeah, it's definitely true.
What was the paper about?
It was about Chinatown, and the formation of Chinatowns in America. I lost like three pages of it; it was terrible. It was a really, really good paper.
Did Apple compensate you for the commercial at all?
I'm not actually sure how much I got paid because it was in installments, and the whole contract was dealt with by my parents, so I'm not actually sure. Oh, and I got an iPod. It's like the coolest thing ever.
What was the initial response of your friends and family to the commercial?
They all freaked out. I called my dad while I was at the set because I had to get him to say that he was my guardian and it was OK for me to do it, and he didn't believe me that I was going to do it. So they all freaked out when they found out I got the ad.
Did you get a lot of phone calls after it aired?
Yeah, a lot of old camp friends, actually.
When did you start getting the sense you were becoming a celebrity beyond the commercial itself?
I was on vacation in Arizona this summer, and when I left everything was fine. It was kind of like, "Oh this is cool, I'm in a commercial," but that's it. And so we left. When we get back two weeks later, it's like a bombard, it was so big. I have like 20 messages on the answering machine from different people telling me about this, random people like people who work with my parents and all these other people. I get back and I'm in The New York Times, and I'm in the L.A. Times, and Letterman wants me on his show, Leno wants me on his show. I'm like, "I just got back from vacation!" It's funny because I get back, and the New York Times is like, "Ellen is unreachable for comment because she's supposedly on vacation," and I was like, "How do they even know this?" It was really kind of scary, actually, a little overwhelming at first.
So do you have any interest in doing Leno or Letterman?
I was offered to, but I decided not to because I thought it wouldn't be so much "Who are you, Ellen Feiss?" It would be more like, "Are you a stoner?" blah blah blah. I did get other offers besides that that I'm getting into. MTV wants to talk to me. They're doing a pilot on me. The guy's going to come to my house in two weeks and interview me, and then show it to the CEO of MTV. I got a lot of crazy offers. I thought if I went on Letterman, it would be like I go on Letterman, and then I go on "Regis and Kelly," and then I go on Channel 5 News, and then it would kind of fizzle out pathetically. MTV's a little cooler.
Any idea what the MTV show would be about?
No, he has no idea. He just said he liked the ads and said I was a cute kid.
Do you think this has the potential to jump-start a career in entertainment?
I don't know. I also got a call from the Farrelly Brothers. They were like, "You know we really like your ad," so they wrote down my name or something. I have an agent now. This guy writes me down -- the producer of all the Farrelly brothers movies -- and he's like this kid is whatever whatever, this ad is pretty funny, so he writes my name down and he's trying to get in contact with my agent. Since I didn't have an agent at that point
So have you made a bunch of new friends at school?
No, it isn't that weird. I get a lot of really obvious comments from people like "Did you know that there are mugs with your face on them?" and I'm like, "No I didn't; why don't you tell me about that?" Just comments like that. It's like, "Thanks for telling me about that."
Are you OK with all the Web sites, and people walking around wearing your face on their T-shirts?
Oh, whatever, I think it's kind of funny. These people don't have lives. I don't know, it was kind of bizarre at first. I went to my Web site but I decided not to read any of the comments because I thought it would be too weird. I heard about some of them, though, so I was like, "Weeell, I'm not going to read those."
Did you hear about the look-alike contest in Holland?
I did! I saw the pictures, too. It was really funny.
Did you have a favorite picture?
The toothless old man was hands down the best, but no one actually looked anything like me.
Has Apple tried to contact you since all this happened?
They contacted me to supposedly advise me. They were like, "We don't really want you to take this anywhere," but I decided to get an agent anyway. I went to Macworld in July. It seems like the kind of thing where if you're not in the biz
Do you have a favorite switch ad besides your own?
Probably Hamilton, just because I know him, and I saw him make it. It was so funny. Me and Hamilton have decided that our new nemesis is Jeremiah Cohick. He's our age, and he's trying to steal our limelight! We decided we don't like him. We're out to get him.
Does it bother you at all that some of your fame might be related to your perceived state of sobriety in the commercial?
It doesn't really bother me. I do admit to looking pretty out of it in that commercial -- I think I look horrible. It was after school, but I was the last person to make the commercial, so by the time I made it it was like 10, so I was really tired. The funny thing was, I was on drugs! I was on Benedryl, my allergy medication, so I was really out of it anyway. That's why my eyes were all red, because I have seasonal allergies. But no one believes me.
Do you feel any connection to the Dell dude?
No, none whatsoever. That guy's a doofus. I get a lot of "What if you guys had kids?" And I'm like, "What if we had kids?" Why would you ask that? What a weird question. They'd probably be blond.
Watch her here: http://www.apple.com/switch/ads/ellenfeiss.html
An anonymous reader writes "The Wait is over! Ellen Feiss's interview is up! And she really was on drugs, (well, allergy meds.)" She's, like, going to be traumatized about this forever, like.
This is Slashdot. Now that the server is down, the wait is just beginning...
Oh wait, it's still (sluggishly) responding. I'll repost it (somewhat) anonymously.
Robots are everywhere, and they eat old people's medicine for fuel.
Gamingmuseum.com: Give your 3D accelerator a rest.
For the 234892 of you who will inevitably post 'the server was already slashdotted', the interview was a lot like a standard interview, with questions and answers. Ellen thinks your fascination with her is unhealthy and you should get lives. She doesn't like that she's on your coffee mug. The toothless man in the Feiss look-a-like contest was the funniest. The Dell dude is a doofus. She's friends with the son of Errol Morris and that's how she really got her part. And her ad was filmed at around 10pm and she was on Benadryl, so of course she seems out of it. Also, her really really good paper was about Chinatowns appearing in cities across America. She was asked to appear on Letterman/Leno but declined because she figured her fame would dry up quickly, like going from Leno to Regis to some local public access deal... but she's in talks with MTV and possibly the Farrelly brothers.
That's all from memory and I read it a while ago. Stop complaining about the server being slashdotted or CmdrTaco will come to your house and eat your children.
It seems others are noticing elen feiss's popularity with the geek crowd.
The apple of apple's eye: ellen feiss
... well it's a kind of confusing story, but anyway, they wanted me to be in one of their movies, but since they found out how old I was they don't think I can be in one. Supposedly, though, my agent is "floating my image," quote unquote. I don't know what the hell that means.
.... I thought it was the most boring thing. I got shuttled down to New York, and I got VIP seating, and I was like, "Wow, I'm at the Oscars or something," but then I was like, "No, I'm at Macworld." I met Steve Jobs. He called me by my first name -- clever, huh? It was brief.
her pc crashed, she made the switch, and now she's famous. meet the internet's latest it girl.
By Zachary Frechette
Ellen Feiss is a lot like most 15-year-olds, with one notable exception: Some guy in Holland is wearing a T-shirt with her face on it right now. Actually, a lot of people are wearing that shirt with her picture or drinking coffee from a similarly themed mug purchased on one of Ellen's numerous fan sites. After appearing in a "Switch" ad for Apple computer (www.apple.com/switch/ads), Feiss quickly became an Internet celebrity, spawning stories in newspapers from coast to coast and sparking discussion in chat rooms across the world. There was even a look-alike contest held outside Amsterdam, although most of the entrants were men. Some have argued she seems a bit too, um, light-headed in her commercial, but that hasn't stopped Leno and Letterman from trying to book her (actually, it probably helped). As a sophomore in high school, Ellen still isn't quite sure what to make of her 15 minutes, but between meetings with her agent and MTV executives, she took some time to answer questions for Post-.
How did you get involved with the Apple switch campaign in the first place?
It's kind of a funny story. I'm friends with the son of the director, Errol Morris. I'm friends with his son Hamilton. I went with him after school, him and two of my friends. We didn't think we were going to make ads; we were just going to get the free set food. So we go there, and they're like, "We need a couple more people, so I guess the three of you can make ads." So we all made ads, and me and Hamilton's got picked. I had no idea I was going to do it until I got there.
Is the story you told true?
Oh yeah, it's definitely true.
What was the paper about?
It was about Chinatown, and the formation of Chinatowns in America. I lost like three pages of it; it was terrible. It was a really, really good paper.
Did Apple compensate you for the commercial at all?
I'm not actually sure how much I got paid because it was in installments, and the whole contract was dealt with by my parents, so I'm not actually sure. Oh, and I got an iPod. It's like the coolest thing ever.
What was the initial response of your friends and family to the commercial?
They all freaked out. I called my dad while I was at the set because I had to get him to say that he was my guardian and it was OK for me to do it, and he didn't believe me that I was going to do it. So they all freaked out when they found out I got the ad.
Did you get a lot of phone calls after it aired?
Yeah, a lot of old camp friends, actually.
When did you start getting the sense you were becoming a celebrity beyond the commercial itself?
I was on vacation in Arizona this summer, and when I left everything was fine. It was kind of like, "Oh this is cool, I'm in a commercial," but that's it. And so we left. When we get back two weeks later, it's like a bombard, it was so big. I have like 20 messages on the answering machine from different people telling me about this, random people like people who work with my parents and all these other people. I get back and I'm in The New York Times, and I'm in the L.A. Times, and Letterman wants me on his show, Leno wants me on his show. I'm like, "I just got back from vacation!" It's funny because I get back, and the New York Times is like, "Ellen is unreachable for comment because she's supposedly on vacation," and I was like, "How do they even know this?" It was really kind of scary, actually, a little overwhelming at first.
So do you have any interest in doing Leno or Letterman?
I was offered to, but I decided not to because I thought it wouldn't be so much "Who are you, Ellen Feiss?" It would be more like, "Are you a stoner?" blah blah blah. I did get other offers besides that that I'm getting into. MTV wants to talk to me. They're doing a pilot on me. The guy's going to come to my house in two weeks and interview me, and then show it to the CEO of MTV. I got a lot of crazy offers. I thought if I went on Letterman, it would be like I go on Letterman, and then I go on "Regis and Kelly," and then I go on Channel 5 News, and then it would kind of fizzle out pathetically. MTV's a little cooler.
Any idea what the MTV show would be about?
No, he has no idea. He just said he liked the ads and said I was a cute kid.
Do you think this has the potential to jump-start a career in entertainment?
I don't know. I also got a call from the Farrelly Brothers. They were like, "You know we really like your ad," so they wrote down my name or something. I have an agent now. This guy writes me down -- the producer of all the Farrelly brothers movies -- and he's like this kid is whatever whatever, this ad is pretty funny, so he writes my name down and he's trying to get in contact with my agent. Since I didn't have an agent at that point
So have you made a bunch of new friends at school?
No, it isn't that weird. I get a lot of really obvious comments from people like "Did you know that there are mugs with your face on them?" and I'm like, "No I didn't; why don't you tell me about that?" Just comments like that. It's like, "Thanks for telling me about that."
Are you OK with all the Web sites, and people walking around wearing your face on their T-shirts?
Oh, whatever, I think it's kind of funny. These people don't have lives. I don't know, it was kind of bizarre at first. I went to my Web site but I decided not to read any of the comments because I thought it would be too weird. I heard about some of them, though, so I was like, "Weeell, I'm not going to read those."
Did you hear about the look-alike contest in Holland?
I did! I saw the pictures, too. It was really funny.
Did you have a favorite picture?
The toothless old man was hands down the best, but no one actually looked anything like me.
Has Apple tried to contact you since all this happened?
They contacted me to supposedly advise me. They were like, "We don't really want you to take this anywhere," but I decided to get an agent anyway. I went to Macworld in July. It seems like the kind of thing where if you're not in the biz
Do you have a favorite switch ad besides your own?
Probably Hamilton, just because I know him, and I saw him make it. It was so funny. Me and Hamilton have decided that our new nemesis is Jeremiah Cohick. He's our age, and he's trying to steal our limelight! We decided we don't like him. We're out to get him.
Does it bother you at all that some of your fame might be related to your perceived state of sobriety in the commercial?
It doesn't really bother me. I do admit to looking pretty out of it in that commercial -- I think I look horrible. It was after school, but I was the last person to make the commercial, so by the time I made it it was like 10, so I was really tired. The funny thing was, I was on drugs! I was on Benedryl, my allergy medication, so I was really out of it anyway. That's why my eyes were all red, because I have seasonal allergies. But no one believes me.
Do you feel any connection to the Dell dude?
No, none whatsoever. That guy's a doofus. I get a lot of "What if you guys had kids?" And I'm like, "What if we had kids?" Why would you ask that? What a weird question. They'd probably be blond.
zach frechette '04 forgot to ask if ellen knows janie porche's phone number.
She says "like", like 28 times. I like counted.
I agree! Apple has Ellen Feiss, linux people have Alan Cox and Richard Stallman, neither of whom are too appealing.
What we need to do is wait until Ellen's mac goes bleep, bleep and then shove a slackware cd into her hands. Then she can do commercials for linux.
The funny thing was, I was on drugs! I was on Benedryl, my allergy medication, so I was really out of it anyway. That's why my eyes were all red, because I have seasonal allergies. But no one believes me.
Mmmhmm.
Look, Ellen, I've done a lot of dope during my day. Bunch. Used to grow it, in fact. And I've taken Benadryl, too.
Not once has Benadryl made people think I'm high. Never. I've taken Benadryl, gone to work, nobody even knew. Weed makes people think I'm high. The bloodshot eyes, the lazy movements, the relaxed jaw and speaking style. Fuck, you're wearing a cotton pullover with a hood. Comfy clothes, man. Comfy clothes are all you care about wearing when you're stoned. Detective Rev. says that you were high as a fucking kite but can't admit it because you'll get in trouble.
Can't blame you, but can't believe you, either.
...you mean, that the the advertisment DIDNT use real people telling real stories ?! My god, they should fire all those advertising types because they mislead people...
Hello? McFly?
Actually, they were real switchers. If you read the article (when it's recovered from the nasty /.ing) Ellen says her story in the ad is completely true.
Go here to see her ad and you can make your own decisions. Warning - if you have a soft place in your heart for cute goofy stoner chicks you just might become obsessed. :)
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damnit, now im gonna have to go back to chasing Natalie Portman with a bowl full of grits.
Pay attention now mods, this is an attempt at HUMOR, not a troll, or flamebait, or offtopic. Thank you.
All Troll + "offtopic" mods are meta moderated as "Unfair", because you abused the system.
At least she can laugh about all of the crazy stuff, like dress-up contests. Too many other people would, "like, freak out because that's really, like, wierd."
Ah to be 15, ignorant, naive, on Benadryl, and an instant celebrity.
According to Ellen in the interview:
It's kind of a funny story. I'm friends with the son of the director, Errol Morris. I'm friends with his son Hamilton. I went with him after school, him and two of my friends. We didn't think we were going to make ads; we were just going to get the free set food. So we go there, and they're like, "We need a couple more people, so I guess the three of you can make ads." So we all made ads, and me and Hamilton's got picked. I had no idea I was going to do it until I got there.
According to Ellen at Apple's site:
I'm writing to share a tragic little story.
My Dad has a PC that my sister and I used to use for our homework assignments. One night, I was writing a paper on it, when all of a sudden it went berserk, the screen started flashing, and the whole paper just disappeared. All of it. And it was a good paper! I had to cram and rewrite it really quickly. Needless to say, my rushed paper wasn't nearly as good, and I blame that PC for the grade I got.
I'm happy to report that my sister and I now share an Apple PowerBook. It's a lot nicer to work on than my dad's PC was, it hasn't let me down once, and my grades have all been really good.
Thanks, Apple.
Ellen Feiss
So which was it - an email to Apple, or a hookup with the director's son?
"Oh, whatever, I think it's kind of funny. These people don't have lives..."
What's that sound? Ah yes, the sound of 1000 slashdotters being stabbed through the heart.
Well, at least Natalie Portman still loves you.
Beauty is in the eye of the beerholder.
Are you OK with all the Web sites, and people walking around wearing your face on their T-shirts?
Oh, whatever, I think it's kind of funny. These people don't have lives.
That's it, I'm taking this T-shirt off. And you can have my mug back.
I just can't get into the swing of the whole "Ellen Feiss" thing. I've invested WAAAY too much time, money, and effort into the "Natalie Portman/Hot Grits" movement to switch now.
Natalie Portman Forever!!! (*waves pennant feebly*)
BlackBolt
What does that tell you?
That everyone hates their PC?
Have you used Mac OS X? (Particularly in it current incarnation?) It's ... a really, really good OS. That's why a lot of geeks use it. Good UI + Unix power is appealing to a lot of people.
...) And Apple is engaging in a frutiful give-and-take with the Open Source world. Microsoft has never done anything like this, and never will.
...
How is this bad for Linux? This is called healthy competition. Until Mac OS X, there really was no good UI for a desktop Unix-y OS. Linux desktops have improved dramatically since OS X was released, at least partly due to the fact that the developers have OS X as a benchmark of how good a Unix desktop can be. (Granted, they'd be improving even faster if so many developers weren't trying to clone the awful Windows interface, but that's another matter
Mac OS X and Linux are good for each other. More Unix-y OS users out there to provide a market, more developers writing software that can be ported to each other's platforms, more people getting the idea that Unix is not something scary and dangerous
If Apple ever has 90% market share -- hell, if Apple ever has 50% market share -- you'll have something to worry about. Right now, Linux and OS X are natural allies.
The correlation between ignorance of statistics and using "correlation is not causation" as an argument is close to 1.
Brown Daily: Good morning Ellen.
Ellen Feiss: yo mannnn...
BD: How was your time working with Apple?
EF: Do you.. like.. have any crack?
BD: umm..
EF: Apple gave me crack.. it was.. like.. really good crack.
BD: Let's talk about your upbringing.
EF: It was.. like.. gone..
BD: Your upbringing was "gone"?
EF: nooooo.. the crack at Apple.. it was like.. really good crack..
BD: OK, well then let's talk about Apple. Did you meet Steve Jobs?
EF: It was really.. good crack.
[the above story is fictional..]
Trolling is a art,
But she says in the article, it was a true story...
- Oliver
The right to bear arms is only slightly less stupid than the right to arm bears...
I quote from the interview:
""We need a couple more people, so I guess the three of you can make ads." So we all made ads, and me and Hamilton's got picked. I had no idea I was going to do it until I got there."
So I get the impression from this that the ad was made up. Didn't the majority of y'all just finish trashing Microsoft for doing that a few weeks ago?
I want a new quote. One that won't spill. One that don't cost too much. Or come in a pill.
I have to agree. I run Linux on all my servers, and love it, but OS X on the desktop really rocks.. I haven't had so much fun with my machine (A dual G4 powermac) since my Amiga 1000. It's also quite depressing when I have to work on a windows machine again, but I am very enthousiastic about OS X, it's easy, but if you want to do more complex stuff, that is also very well possible.
PA said it best about these stupid people and their stupid commercials.
This is my sig. Its pathetic.
From your comment title I thought you were advocating a switch of your own... Anyway, Ellen Fiess is a girl who made a commercial as part of Apple's switch campain, where real people (some famous, some not) talk about why Windows sucks (which is kind of like talking about why water is wet), and why Macs rock. She happened to be to have a stoney disposition in the commercial, though, which sets her apart from the other commercials. Now she's the main obsession of Mac enthusiasts.
"Now gluttony and exploitation serves eight!" - TV's Frank
You know when you've become a geek icon when you've become a reference in Fox Trot
I wish my lawn was emo, so it would cut itself.
I'd say it's highly likely she could type 3 pages in 10 minutes; however, chances are if you're typing that fast you're doing it off the cuff and it isn't that good anyway, so the second time around after the crash might be a better version anyway.
What?
Mirror here Oh, and YOU'RE WELCOME (sorry, computer guy joke)
"We didn't think we were going to make ads; we were just going to get the free set food."
Sounds like someone had a hit of the munchies...
"I got shuttled down to New York, and I got VIP seating, and I was like, "Wow, I'm at the Oscars or something," but then I was like, "No, I'm at Macworld.""
:-)
"I also got a call from the Farrelly Brothers. They were like, "You know we really like your ad," so they wrote down my name or something."
"Supposedly, though, my agent is "floating my image," quote unquote. I don't know what the hell that means."
Kids...
Beware: In C++, your friends can see your privates!
"Area girl friends with TV director's son, gets part in ad!"
Does this sound like an Onion article?
There are a thousand forms of subversion, but few can equal the convenience and immediacy of a cream pie -Noel Godin
Classic parodies of Ellen Feiss
I'd like to point something out.
The normal adult human male (as shown by psychological studies) finds females to be in their _peak_ of attractiveness from the ages of 14 to 24. This is normal human sexuality for adult males to be attracted to teenage girls - males find teens more attractive than 30somethings.
The condition by the name of "Paedophillia" means being primarily attracted to pre-puberlessant children. This means under 12s; pre-puberlessants. A normal human male of any age is going to be capable of finding a 14 year old girl (and perhaps younger) both physically and mentally attractive.
It was considered in 19th century England that no normal woman could enjoy / want sex, and any one that did was perverted and immoral. Victorian England had great negative associations with sexuality in general. In the paedophile-hysteria of the last decade and half, people in English-speaking countries have falsely come to associate any attraction to under-18s as being 'sick'. If this is so, then just about everybody is sick. Of course, an inidividual's sexuality sits on a spectrum in regards to age just as it does to hetro/homosexuality, but more 40year old guys are going to be able to find this 15 year old Ellen Feiss attractive than ones who are not.
What I think is morally suspect is the righteous spouting from people who don't bother to carefully consider the truthfulness in their view of the world....
So I was on slashdot, composing the greatest troll in the world, and the post comment form was like "slow down cowboy", "invalid formkeys", "you're using too many caps, it's like yelling", "lameness filter encountered, post aborted", and I was like "hunhhhhh?"
/switched to kuro5hin.
And then when I hit the back key to try to repost my whole troll was gone.
And it was... like.... a bummer.
I'm A. Troll, and I
ghuy'. You dishonor me?!? I will drink the blood from your carcass insolent fool.
http://www.kli.org/tlh/newwords.html
Hey, when you can't beat em...
WHY THE FUCK YOU ALL AREN'T DOING SOMETHING MORE PRODUCTIVE, like, say, WORKING right now
After you? Or do you work as Slashdot Troll Master?
Don't you all have stuffed penguins to fuck or something?
No, it's much more funny to let them drink until they pass out.
Beware: In C++, your friends can see your privates!
"Dude, you're getting a BOY!"
Karma: Chevy Kavalierma.
Sure win2K and XP are more stable, but after tons of install/uninstalls of apps and programs the thing starts to seriously slow down and munge itself. Since 95 I've had windows corrupt it's own dll's atleast 2x a year on all the systems. This isn't even counting production boxes at work that have mysteriously killed IIS dll's.
The thought of having to tech support my Son's computer is beginning to make me throw up. He already has a skill for crashing win2K and XP by pressing down on a half dozen keys for a minute. Toddlers and young children don't know that microsoft didn't design the keyboard as a ladder or piano. All they know is when I push down on all the keys with my palm, the box makes lots of funny noises. I've seen young children bang on mac keyboards without causing it to lock up hard. Sure the ads are stupid, but many people consider themselves computer challenged. If buying a mac means I don't have to re-install windows on my Son's box 5x times a year, I'm there. I rather not waste 4 hours per install, when I could be doing other things more fun.
I find it really, really pathetic that people are obsessing about a person in a commercial. JEsus, fetishizing commercials? For a group of people that are anti-big company, anti-commercial softweare, it's pretty damn hypocritical that a person who shows up in a fucking corporate commercial is being obsessed over. It's a commercial. Ignore it. Get on with your lives. Jesus, talk about commercialism gone rampant. Geeks hate commercialsm from big company X, but eat it up if it's from big company Y. That's like saying "I hate those nasty, big, soul-killing companies like Wal-Mart. But have you seent hat new K-Mart ad? It's so cool!"
Can we please get a slashdot interview with her, so we can ask some questions????
"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true." - Homer Simpson
like, really.
I really think that this is going to be bad for Linux as a whole.
How so? Linux is free. It doesn't matter what anyone else does. Linux will always be an available choice.
Also, the Unix-type operating systems are all designed to work with open standards. Want to share files with a Sun box? Go right ahead with NFS! Want to share files with a Windows box? Lucky for us the Samba Team is reverse engineering the SMB protocol. You can add Mac OS X and Linux and BSD boxes to a Solaris NIS domain. You can add them to an NT domain only because of the Samba Team's work.
Also, Apple doesn't have a monopoly on the desktop. They even have a different architecture for their computer systems, which means they cost more to make. Therefore, to be successful, Apple has to compete with commodity beige-box PCs on features alone to get people to pay more for a Mac. Is this a bad thing? Not if it makes the computing experience worth it for Mac users.
Little Debian: America's #1 Snack Distro!
There must be nothing scarier than being stalked by the Mac community ...
It is precisely because she reinforces stereotypes about Americans (Californians, in particular) that we find her fascinating. Specifically, it's the vacant, listless, "I'm drugged to the gills" manner of speech she exhibited in the ad that made us laugh at her. She was just such an unlikely choice for a spokesperson - sincere, but not particularly articulate, her wit possibly dulled by the use of chemicals - that we couldn't help but celebrate her.
Plus, as it turns out, she was on drugs in that interview. Even if it was just an over-the-counter antihistimine.
Right.
Who?
-- Note: If you don't agree with me, don't bother replying. I won't read it.
Guys. If you're going to be a lam0, and stalk a switcher, Ellen is a dead end. And, too young for even the high-schoolers among you.
Instead, I recommend Janie Porche. She's literate and smiles. A lot. Much easier to deal with, in the long run. Trust me on this one.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. (Einstein)
I am rather interested to know what thousands of people are so obsessed by Ellen Feis when all she did was pretty much act like a stupid teenager with a computer. Maybe its just me, but acting like an ignorent teen with a computer who says 'like' and is pretty much completely average overall (according to her performance) is not really something I aspire to. Is there some detail I am missing. I don't watch TV (but have seen the ad online), and this looked like standard 'stupid advertisement' with some decent writing. Honestly, the way people are obsessed by her is disturbing; I, like any geek, look up to certain people, but I have never been obsessed by someone to this degree, and especially just because they emulated dumb teen. Can anyone rationally explain this phenominon(sp)?
"What can a thoughtful man hope for mankind on Earth, given the experience of the past million years? Nothing." -Bokonon
Warning - if you have a soft place in your heart for cute goofy stoner chicks
Doesn't everyone have a soft place for cute goofy stoner chicks?
I just assumed that was a universal maxim, like how art on sci-fi magazines and novels has nothing to do with the stories to be found inside, or how mice, no matter how optical, self cleaning, nanotech, will always need to be cleaned at the crucial moment of the game winning frag...
I am disrespectful to dirt! Can you see that I am serious?!
Reminded me of Foxtrot:
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It's a bit off-topic for an Ellen Feiss thread, couldn't agree more regarding Linux's tendency toward Windows look-alike interfaces. This would apply to both the desktop and the way applications work.
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I understand why Linux developers look to Windows. It's a familiar environment for most users. But I think we don't give users enough credit: provide them a well thought-out, consistent, attractive interface, and they'll do well. Of these three atrributes, consistency is the key.
The cool thing about the Mac interface is that everything works the same. No matter what you're running, you'll know where to find things. Windows behave consistently from app to app. Once you've spent a couple hours on a Mac, it's a BETTER pointy-clicky interface than Windows.
Mac developers design their interfaces with the Macintosh Human Interface guidelines in mind. I wish there were something similar in the Linux world:
http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/mac/HIGuide
Ah, yes: we must maintain our choices. No consistent interface for us. Long live the Revolution.
This is my post. There are many others like it. If you don't like what you read here, go try one of the others.
Back home, my best mate was a massive Mac advocate. When I went round to his house, he'd always show me a Mac advert. He loved the Switch campaign of course. He was always telling people, even strangers, how great Apple hardware was. I used his Mac quite a bit, all my circle of friends used it at least once, many more times for me. Out of my friends who were geeks (about 4 or 5 of us :) they have all installed Linux at some point. Did they all stick with it? No. Andrew tried a live CD but his disk was all NTFS so he was a bit stuck. Ken set it up as a small server to allow net connection sharing (he's now using it also at university). Hugh used it because his brother used it. Even Paul, the huge Mac advocate, has installed it 3 times (he got pissed off at the poor PPC support each time though ;).
Then I moved away from home, I got a job at a research company. It used to be Ministry of Defence research before it was privatised. Inside the department, Linux is slowly taking over. There are about 25 of us who joined together, they are my new friends now. I use Linux on the desktop all the time, several others use it part time (rebooting for games and such). Now Dave is getting interested, he was enthusing to me today about Knoppix (he didn't want to disturb his current setup). The company I work in is full of geeks, some of them not badly off at all.
How many Macs have I seen since I left Paul behind? None. Zilch. Zero. How many Linux boxes? Loads.
It's easy to forget that it appears that MacOS is losing market share, and by Apples own admission a few months ago, Linux has nearly double the desktop market share of OS X. Hard to believe isn't it, but outside of Slashdot, there are millions of people with PCs, who don't like Windows and want to try something different. It's easy to try Linux, it costs nothing, and isn't a huge decision. Install it in an evening, try it, if you don't like it, remove it and go back to Windows. Try again in a year or two.
That last sentance is the crucial one, I've seen lots of people try Linux and go back to Windows. But they always try again. And again. I tried Linux 3 times before dropping Windows.
Bah. Mac running unix might sound like a good thing, but all we're going to end up with is Apple as the new M$ instead. I just think it's a really bad thing for the whole Linux community.
Don't worry :) It's alright, Linux is chugging along just nicely. The Mac isn't, and never was, a realistic proposition for most people. That's why it has 4% of the market (far less if you only count os x machines), when it originally had more like 40%. In much the same way that the PC won out over the Mac in the early/mid 90s because the PC was economically if not technically superior (competition drove down margins, powered massive speed increases and so on), Linux gains from the same effect. The presence of competition is usually beneficial to a market as a whole.
For the small number of geeks that decide to stop kernel hacking in favour of writing a new Cocoa IRC client or whatever, they will be replaced 2 times over by newcomers and business. There aren't any flash adverts about it, but the statistics stand.
...when we have Janie Porche to obsess over instead?
Something tells me her teacher didn't buy the excuse, and she's obsessing over it...
Does it make you happy you're so strange?
Hey, those Linux guys are more interesting than you might think....
grep -ri 'should work'
In a brilliant PR move, Apple has trademarked the word "Like" and is sending cease and desist letters on behalf of their new IP acquisition. The question of prior art has arisen, though the only clear contenders, Moonunit Zappa and "My So Called Life" have yet to respond at the time of this posting. Film at 11.
Zech Harvey, MCSE, MCDBA, CCNA
And for those who've had just a few American stereotypes too many, you can indulge in John's switch to Canada, eh?
Wah!
Maybe she's like me and has adverse reactions to allergy meds...sometimes I have to take them too, but I don't like to. For the record, I like smoking weed, but Benadryl doesn't make me stoned in a fun way -- or in a functional way. Just ask people who watched me stumble and almost stick my hand under a red-hot stove burner while trying to avoid falling on my face into the stove while on Benadryl...yow!
Speaking of yow, your sig, dude. Thanks for the "Visualization mode OFF!" moment for today.
I'm not a geek, I'm just a clever script.
Please don't post spoilers without indication in the subject line. The interview has not yet been released in zimbabwe, so some of us have not been able to read it yet.
That's the smartest thing ever said by a temporary celebrity about temporary celebrity.
That's the last straw. Did we really need to know the destination of your oral fluids???
I'm now officially declaring a JIHAD on those spawns of satan, Joke Congratulation Posts.
Jokes? Fine. I've no problem with them. A lot of jokes on slashdot are at least a good attempt at being amusing. But joke congratulation posts? Whether satirical or straight, they just blow goats.
I'm sorry. I'm now going on a one-man crusade to mark all joke congratulation posts, irrespective of their origin, as -1 Overrated. You may call me sad and pathetic, you may call me strange - but I retort that those who post Joke Congratulation Posts are even sadder!
Female Prison Rape in NY
'She's on drugs.'
No she's not; she's thinking. Go get her a Pepsi.
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She's not cazy!
Institutionalized!
It is cowardly, and a betrayal of whatever it means to be a Jew, to act as a white man
-James Baldwin
The major cities are so much more productive than the outlying regions, it's incredible. Do you (speaking rhetorically to the parent, since I'm echoing rather than criticizing) have any idea just how much work people do in New York and San Francisco and Chicago and LA? It's Republican-voting red-state flyover-country that's nursing on the government teat.
As far as the original topic goes, don't mistake the insouciant California manner with stupidity. (After all - it was a really good paper.)
She looked pretty hot in Spiderman though....
Yeah, her nipples were like two stacks of dimes....
Don't mind me. Too much Benadryl...
Robots are everywhere, and they eat old people's medicine for fuel.
Open the Applications directory
Open the Utilities directory
Scroll down and find the Terminal application
Drag it to your Doc (at bottom) so it's one click away from then on.
From then on,
Click on the terminal app in the dock.
Please grow up, or at least wait for HER to...
... there is no spoon
Mmmm yummy. Not sure I agree she's MUCH cuter than Ellen, but she's definately quite scrumptuous in her own right.
I usually feel cheated after reading a troll, but that little nugget made it worthwhile. Thanks.
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Terrifically fun read. She's obviously cooler than the people twice her age (and more) who fetishize her. And do you know what her secret is, you middle-aged cueballs with your Feiss t-shirts and coffee mugs? Have you not read your Nabokov? She doesn't give a fuck. Ha, ha! The ultimate object of worship in our pandering age is the celebrity created out of nothing, who doesn't care, who really can't be bothered, for whom it just happened and for whom just as easily one day it will un-happen, and, meanwhile, whose sheer disinterest turns the covetous world on its ear.