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An anonymous reader writes "The Wait is over! Ellen Feiss's interview is up! And she really was on drugs, (well, allergy meds.)" She's, like, going to be traumatized about this forever, like.
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Hell, the server's been slashdotted within minutes of posting! How much more pain can you take?
can type in the article from the 'paper paper', since that will probably be faster than waiting for this server to recover?
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Seems this interview has already been slashdotted. It was like a server. And then it went beep. beep. beep. And all the webpage was gone. It was a really good server too.
the apple of apple's eye: ellen feiss
... well it's a kind of confusing story, but anyway, they wanted me to be in one of their movies, but since they found out how old I was they don't think I can be in one. Supposedly, though, my agent is "floating my image," quote unquote. I don't know what the hell that means.
.... I thought it was the most boring thing. I got shuttled down to New York, and I got VIP seating, and I was like, "Wow, I'm at the Oscars or something," but then I was like, "No, I'm at Macworld." I met Steve Jobs. He called me by my first name -- clever, huh? It was brief.
her pc crashed, she made the switch, and now she's famous. meet the internet's latest it girl.
By Zachary Frechette
Ellen Feiss is a lot like most 15-year-olds, with one notable exception: Some guy in Holland is wearing a T-shirt with her face on it right now. Actually, a lot of people are wearing that shirt with her picture or drinking coffee from a similarly themed mug purchased on one of Ellen's numerous fan sites. After appearing in a "Switch" ad for Apple computer (www.apple.com/switch/ads), Feiss quickly became an Internet celebrity, spawning stories in newspapers from coast to coast and sparking discussion in chat rooms across the world. There was even a look-alike contest held outside Amsterdam, although most of the entrants were men. Some have argued she seems a bit too, um, light-headed in her commercial, but that hasn't stopped Leno and Letterman from trying to book her (actually, it probably helped). As a sophomore in high school, Ellen still isn't quite sure what to make of her 15 minutes, but between meetings with her agent and MTV executives, she took some time to answer questions for Post-.
How did you get involved with the Apple switch campaign in the first place?
It's kind of a funny story. I'm friends with the son of the director, Errol Morris. I'm friends with his son Hamilton. I went with him after school, him and two of my friends. We didn't think we were going to make ads; we were just going to get the free set food. So we go there, and they're like, "We need a couple more people, so I guess the three of you can make ads." So we all made ads, and me and Hamilton's got picked. I had no idea I was going to do it until I got there.
Is the story you told true?
Oh yeah, it's definitely true.
What was the paper about?
It was about Chinatown, and the formation of Chinatowns in America. I lost like three pages of it; it was terrible. It was a really, really good paper.
Did Apple compensate you for the commercial at all?
I'm not actually sure how much I got paid because it was in installments, and the whole contract was dealt with by my parents, so I'm not actually sure. Oh, and I got an iPod. It's like the coolest thing ever.
What was the initial response of your friends and family to the commercial?
They all freaked out. I called my dad while I was at the set because I had to get him to say that he was my guardian and it was OK for me to do it, and he didn't believe me that I was going to do it. So they all freaked out when they found out I got the ad.
Did you get a lot of phone calls after it aired?
Yeah, a lot of old camp friends, actually.
When did you start getting the sense you were becoming a celebrity beyond the commercial itself?
I was on vacation in Arizona this summer, and when I left everything was fine. It was kind of like, "Oh this is cool, I'm in a commercial," but that's it. And so we left. When we get back two weeks later, it's like a bombard, it was so big. I have like 20 messages on the answering machine from different people telling me about this, random people like people who work with my parents and all these other people. I get back and I'm in The New York Times, and I'm in the L.A. Times, and Letterman wants me on his show, Leno wants me on his show. I'm like, "I just got back from vacation!" It's funny because I get back, and the New York Times is like, "Ellen is unreachable for comment because she's supposedly on vacation," and I was like, "How do they even know this?" It was really kind of scary, actually, a little overwhelming at first.
So do you have any interest in doing Leno or Letterman?
I was offered to, but I decided not to because I thought it wouldn't be so much "Who are you, Ellen Feiss?" It would be more like, "Are you a stoner?" blah blah blah. I did get other offers besides that that I'm getting into. MTV wants to talk to me. They're doing a pilot on me. The guy's going to come to my house in two weeks and interview me, and then show it to the CEO of MTV. I got a lot of crazy offers. I thought if I went on Letterman, it would be like I go on Letterman, and then I go on "Regis and Kelly," and then I go on Channel 5 News, and then it would kind of fizzle out pathetically. MTV's a little cooler.
Any idea what the MTV show would be about?
No, he has no idea. He just said he liked the ads and said I was a cute kid.
Do you think this has the potential to jump-start a career in entertainment?
I don't know. I also got a call from the Farrelly Brothers. They were like, "You know we really like your ad," so they wrote down my name or something. I have an agent now. This guy writes me down -- the producer of all the Farrelly brothers movies -- and he's like this kid is whatever whatever, this ad is pretty funny, so he writes my name down and he's trying to get in contact with my agent. Since I didn't have an agent at that point
So have you made a bunch of new friends at school?
No, it isn't that weird. I get a lot of really obvious comments from people like "Did you know that there are mugs with your face on them?" and I'm like, "No I didn't; why don't you tell me about that?" Just comments like that. It's like, "Thanks for telling me about that."
Are you OK with all the Web sites, and people walking around wearing your face on their T-shirts?
Oh, whatever, I think it's kind of funny. These people don't have lives. I don't know, it was kind of bizarre at first. I went to my Web site but I decided not to read any of the comments because I thought it would be too weird. I heard about some of them, though, so I was like, "Weeell, I'm not going to read those."
Did you hear about the look-alike contest in Holland?
I did! I saw the pictures, too. It was really funny.
Did you have a favorite picture?
The toothless old man was hands down the best, but no one actually looked anything like me.
Has Apple tried to contact you since all this happened?
They contacted me to supposedly advise me. They were like, "We don't really want you to take this anywhere," but I decided to get an agent anyway. I went to Macworld in July. It seems like the kind of thing where if you're not in the biz
Do you have a favorite switch ad besides your own?
Probably Hamilton, just because I know him, and I saw him make it. It was so funny. Me and Hamilton have decided that our new nemesis is Jeremiah Cohick. He's our age, and he's trying to steal our limelight! We decided we don't like him. We're out to get him.
Does it bother you at all that some of your fame might be related to your perceived state of sobriety in the commercial?
It doesn't really bother me. I do admit to looking pretty out of it in that commercial -- I think I look horrible. It was after school, but I was the last person to make the commercial, so by the time I made it it was like 10, so I was really tired. The funny thing was, I was on drugs! I was on Benedryl, my allergy medication, so I was really out of it anyway. That's why my eyes were all red, because I have seasonal allergies. But no one believes me.
Do you feel any connection to the Dell dude?
No, none whatsoever. That guy's a doofus. I get a lot of "What if you guys had kids?" And I'm like, "What if we had kids?" Why would you ask that? What a weird question. They'd probably be blond.
Since the server seems to be slashdotted there's not much chance of me educating myself on who she is...
Anyone care to enlighten me?
.: Max Romantschuk
It was on the Mac sites first. All the mac people beat you there.
Posted Nov 22 3:20 AM
Keep up or get left behind.
Watch her here: http://www.apple.com/switch/ads/ellenfeiss.html
An anonymous reader writes "The Wait is over! Ellen Feiss's interview is up! And she really was on drugs, (well, allergy meds.)" She's, like, going to be traumatized about this forever, like.
This is Slashdot. Now that the server is down, the wait is just beginning...
Oh wait, it's still (sluggishly) responding. I'll repost it (somewhat) anonymously.
Robots are everywhere, and they eat old people's medicine for fuel.
...That they weren't real switchers.
I am also amused that they were able to pick people at random from their friends, and say "Tell us a windows PC horror story" and then that somehow equalled a series of TV commercials...
What does that tell you?
Who did what now?
I really think that this is going to be bad for Linux as a whole.
Everybody now is talking about Apple. Sure, It's pretty cool that Macs run Unix, but well, it's not Linux is it?
Geeks are now starting to get Macs, instead of developing for Linux they're playing with all the cool stuff on their mac.
Even Taco has got one! What next, will Linus get one? Will he decide that getting stuff done on his mac is more important than trying to get the next kernel out the door?
Bah. Mac running unix might sound like a good thing, but all we're going to end up with is Apple as the new M$ instead.
I just think it's a really bad thing for the whole Linux community.
-- Hulver's site
For the 234892 of you who will inevitably post 'the server was already slashdotted', the interview was a lot like a standard interview, with questions and answers. Ellen thinks your fascination with her is unhealthy and you should get lives. She doesn't like that she's on your coffee mug. The toothless man in the Feiss look-a-like contest was the funniest. The Dell dude is a doofus. She's friends with the son of Errol Morris and that's how she really got her part. And her ad was filmed at around 10pm and she was on Benadryl, so of course she seems out of it. Also, her really really good paper was about Chinatowns appearing in cities across America. She was asked to appear on Letterman/Leno but declined because she figured her fame would dry up quickly, like going from Leno to Regis to some local public access deal... but she's in talks with MTV and possibly the Farrelly brothers.
That's all from memory and I read it a while ago. Stop complaining about the server being slashdotted or CmdrTaco will come to your house and eat your children.
...Bummer...
Janie took my gun...
Like, if you're a brain dead-teen, like, with the linguistic skills of a Klingon, like, and, like, you hit the delete button at the wrong time, like, cause you're thinking about what your girlfriends are gonna wear to school, like, and you write papers on the use of the word like, like, then
maybe you are the typical Mac user, like?
Interesting market demographic....
It seems others are noticing elen feiss's popularity with the geek crowd.
The apple of apple's eye: ellen feiss
... well it's a kind of confusing story, but anyway, they wanted me to be in one of their movies, but since they found out how old I was they don't think I can be in one. Supposedly, though, my agent is "floating my image," quote unquote. I don't know what the hell that means.
.... I thought it was the most boring thing. I got shuttled down to New York, and I got VIP seating, and I was like, "Wow, I'm at the Oscars or something," but then I was like, "No, I'm at Macworld." I met Steve Jobs. He called me by my first name -- clever, huh? It was brief.
her pc crashed, she made the switch, and now she's famous. meet the internet's latest it girl.
By Zachary Frechette
Ellen Feiss is a lot like most 15-year-olds, with one notable exception: Some guy in Holland is wearing a T-shirt with her face on it right now. Actually, a lot of people are wearing that shirt with her picture or drinking coffee from a similarly themed mug purchased on one of Ellen's numerous fan sites. After appearing in a "Switch" ad for Apple computer (www.apple.com/switch/ads), Feiss quickly became an Internet celebrity, spawning stories in newspapers from coast to coast and sparking discussion in chat rooms across the world. There was even a look-alike contest held outside Amsterdam, although most of the entrants were men. Some have argued she seems a bit too, um, light-headed in her commercial, but that hasn't stopped Leno and Letterman from trying to book her (actually, it probably helped). As a sophomore in high school, Ellen still isn't quite sure what to make of her 15 minutes, but between meetings with her agent and MTV executives, she took some time to answer questions for Post-.
How did you get involved with the Apple switch campaign in the first place?
It's kind of a funny story. I'm friends with the son of the director, Errol Morris. I'm friends with his son Hamilton. I went with him after school, him and two of my friends. We didn't think we were going to make ads; we were just going to get the free set food. So we go there, and they're like, "We need a couple more people, so I guess the three of you can make ads." So we all made ads, and me and Hamilton's got picked. I had no idea I was going to do it until I got there.
Is the story you told true?
Oh yeah, it's definitely true.
What was the paper about?
It was about Chinatown, and the formation of Chinatowns in America. I lost like three pages of it; it was terrible. It was a really, really good paper.
Did Apple compensate you for the commercial at all?
I'm not actually sure how much I got paid because it was in installments, and the whole contract was dealt with by my parents, so I'm not actually sure. Oh, and I got an iPod. It's like the coolest thing ever.
What was the initial response of your friends and family to the commercial?
They all freaked out. I called my dad while I was at the set because I had to get him to say that he was my guardian and it was OK for me to do it, and he didn't believe me that I was going to do it. So they all freaked out when they found out I got the ad.
Did you get a lot of phone calls after it aired?
Yeah, a lot of old camp friends, actually.
When did you start getting the sense you were becoming a celebrity beyond the commercial itself?
I was on vacation in Arizona this summer, and when I left everything was fine. It was kind of like, "Oh this is cool, I'm in a commercial," but that's it. And so we left. When we get back two weeks later, it's like a bombard, it was so big. I have like 20 messages on the answering machine from different people telling me about this, random people like people who work with my parents and all these other people. I get back and I'm in The New York Times, and I'm in the L.A. Times, and Letterman wants me on his show, Leno wants me on his show. I'm like, "I just got back from vacation!" It's funny because I get back, and the New York Times is like, "Ellen is unreachable for comment because she's supposedly on vacation," and I was like, "How do they even know this?" It was really kind of scary, actually, a little overwhelming at first.
So do you have any interest in doing Leno or Letterman?
I was offered to, but I decided not to because I thought it wouldn't be so much "Who are you, Ellen Feiss?" It would be more like, "Are you a stoner?" blah blah blah. I did get other offers besides that that I'm getting into. MTV wants to talk to me. They're doing a pilot on me. The guy's going to come to my house in two weeks and interview me, and then show it to the CEO of MTV. I got a lot of crazy offers. I thought if I went on Letterman, it would be like I go on Letterman, and then I go on "Regis and Kelly," and then I go on Channel 5 News, and then it would kind of fizzle out pathetically. MTV's a little cooler.
Any idea what the MTV show would be about?
No, he has no idea. He just said he liked the ads and said I was a cute kid.
Do you think this has the potential to jump-start a career in entertainment?
I don't know. I also got a call from the Farrelly Brothers. They were like, "You know we really like your ad," so they wrote down my name or something. I have an agent now. This guy writes me down -- the producer of all the Farrelly brothers movies -- and he's like this kid is whatever whatever, this ad is pretty funny, so he writes my name down and he's trying to get in contact with my agent. Since I didn't have an agent at that point
So have you made a bunch of new friends at school?
No, it isn't that weird. I get a lot of really obvious comments from people like "Did you know that there are mugs with your face on them?" and I'm like, "No I didn't; why don't you tell me about that?" Just comments like that. It's like, "Thanks for telling me about that."
Are you OK with all the Web sites, and people walking around wearing your face on their T-shirts?
Oh, whatever, I think it's kind of funny. These people don't have lives. I don't know, it was kind of bizarre at first. I went to my Web site but I decided not to read any of the comments because I thought it would be too weird. I heard about some of them, though, so I was like, "Weeell, I'm not going to read those."
Did you hear about the look-alike contest in Holland?
I did! I saw the pictures, too. It was really funny.
Did you have a favorite picture?
The toothless old man was hands down the best, but no one actually looked anything like me.
Has Apple tried to contact you since all this happened?
They contacted me to supposedly advise me. They were like, "We don't really want you to take this anywhere," but I decided to get an agent anyway. I went to Macworld in July. It seems like the kind of thing where if you're not in the biz
Do you have a favorite switch ad besides your own?
Probably Hamilton, just because I know him, and I saw him make it. It was so funny. Me and Hamilton have decided that our new nemesis is Jeremiah Cohick. He's our age, and he's trying to steal our limelight! We decided we don't like him. We're out to get him.
Does it bother you at all that some of your fame might be related to your perceived state of sobriety in the commercial?
It doesn't really bother me. I do admit to looking pretty out of it in that commercial -- I think I look horrible. It was after school, but I was the last person to make the commercial, so by the time I made it it was like 10, so I was really tired. The funny thing was, I was on drugs! I was on Benedryl, my allergy medication, so I was really out of it anyway. That's why my eyes were all red, because I have seasonal allergies. But no one believes me.
Do you feel any connection to the Dell dude?
No, none whatsoever. That guy's a doofus. I get a lot of "What if you guys had kids?" And I'm like, "What if we had kids?" Why would you ask that? What a weird question. They'd probably be blond.
zach frechette '04 forgot to ask if ellen knows janie porche's phone number.
She says "like", like 28 times. I like counted.
The funny thing was, I was on drugs! I was on Benedryl, my allergy medication, so I was really out of it anyway. That's why my eyes were all red, because I have seasonal allergies. But no one believes me.
Mmmhmm.
Look, Ellen, I've done a lot of dope during my day. Bunch. Used to grow it, in fact. And I've taken Benadryl, too.
Not once has Benadryl made people think I'm high. Never. I've taken Benadryl, gone to work, nobody even knew. Weed makes people think I'm high. The bloodshot eyes, the lazy movements, the relaxed jaw and speaking style. Fuck, you're wearing a cotton pullover with a hood. Comfy clothes, man. Comfy clothes are all you care about wearing when you're stoned. Detective Rev. says that you were high as a fucking kite but can't admit it because you'll get in trouble.
Can't blame you, but can't believe you, either.
damnit, now im gonna have to go back to chasing Natalie Portman with a bowl full of grits.
Pay attention now mods, this is an attempt at HUMOR, not a troll, or flamebait, or offtopic. Thank you.
All Troll + "offtopic" mods are meta moderated as "Unfair", because you abused the system.
At least she can laugh about all of the crazy stuff, like dress-up contests. Too many other people would, "like, freak out because that's really, like, wierd."
Ah to be 15, ignorant, naive, on Benadryl, and an instant celebrity.
According to Ellen in the interview:
It's kind of a funny story. I'm friends with the son of the director, Errol Morris. I'm friends with his son Hamilton. I went with him after school, him and two of my friends. We didn't think we were going to make ads; we were just going to get the free set food. So we go there, and they're like, "We need a couple more people, so I guess the three of you can make ads." So we all made ads, and me and Hamilton's got picked. I had no idea I was going to do it until I got there.
According to Ellen at Apple's site:
I'm writing to share a tragic little story.
My Dad has a PC that my sister and I used to use for our homework assignments. One night, I was writing a paper on it, when all of a sudden it went berserk, the screen started flashing, and the whole paper just disappeared. All of it. And it was a good paper! I had to cram and rewrite it really quickly. Needless to say, my rushed paper wasn't nearly as good, and I blame that PC for the grade I got.
I'm happy to report that my sister and I now share an Apple PowerBook. It's a lot nicer to work on than my dad's PC was, it hasn't let me down once, and my grades have all been really good.
Thanks, Apple.
Ellen Feiss
So which was it - an email to Apple, or a hookup with the director's son?
"Oh, whatever, I think it's kind of funny. These people don't have lives..."
What's that sound? Ah yes, the sound of 1000 slashdotters being stabbed through the heart.
Well, at least Natalie Portman still loves you.
Beauty is in the eye of the beerholder.
Are you OK with all the Web sites, and people walking around wearing your face on their T-shirts?
Oh, whatever, I think it's kind of funny. These people don't have lives.
That's it, I'm taking this T-shirt off. And you can have my mug back.
I just can't get into the swing of the whole "Ellen Feiss" thing. I've invested WAAAY too much time, money, and effort into the "Natalie Portman/Hot Grits" movement to switch now.
Natalie Portman Forever!!! (*waves pennant feebly*)
BlackBolt
What does that tell you?
That everyone hates their PC?
Brown Daily: Good morning Ellen.
Ellen Feiss: yo mannnn...
BD: How was your time working with Apple?
EF: Do you.. like.. have any crack?
BD: umm..
EF: Apple gave me crack.. it was.. like.. really good crack.
BD: Let's talk about your upbringing.
EF: It was.. like.. gone..
BD: Your upbringing was "gone"?
EF: nooooo.. the crack at Apple.. it was like.. really good crack..
BD: OK, well then let's talk about Apple. Did you meet Steve Jobs?
EF: It was really.. good crack.
[the above story is fictional..]
Trolling is a art,
I quote from the interview:
""We need a couple more people, so I guess the three of you can make ads." So we all made ads, and me and Hamilton's got picked. I had no idea I was going to do it until I got there."
So I get the impression from this that the ad was made up. Didn't the majority of y'all just finish trashing Microsoft for doing that a few weeks ago?
I want a new quote. One that won't spill. One that don't cost too much. Or come in a pill.
I mean, she seems to take this rather well. Were I a 15 year old girl who just wandered onto a set and told a story, and then discovered that there were thousands of rabid slashdotters drooling over me, Natalie Portman, and hot grits... Well maybe that Benadryll might start to come in handy.
I hope she gets an acting career. When everyone forgets this is where she started, it will be fun to burst the bubble of some fan boy. (Sort of like Alanis Morissette and "You Can't Do That On Television")
-- I am become sig, destroyer of posts.
PA said it best about these stupid people and their stupid commercials.
This is my sig. Its pathetic.
You know when you've become a geek icon when you've become a reference in Fox Trot
I wish my lawn was emo, so it would cut itself.
I'd say it's highly likely she could type 3 pages in 10 minutes; however, chances are if you're typing that fast you're doing it off the cuff and it isn't that good anyway, so the second time around after the crash might be a better version anyway.
What?
If you're wondering why the Brown Daily Herald (student paper of Brown Univ.) got the scoop on the first Feiss interview, the reason is that someone on its staff was apparently an ex-classmate of hers. She has avoided the media, by her own choice and at Apple's request (they are trying to downplay the pot thing) but she figured that a college newspaper would be sufficiently "under the radar."
(see also the Wired Article...)
Mirror here Oh, and YOU'RE WELCOME (sorry, computer guy joke)
"We didn't think we were going to make ads; we were just going to get the free set food."
Sounds like someone had a hit of the munchies...
"I got shuttled down to New York, and I got VIP seating, and I was like, "Wow, I'm at the Oscars or something," but then I was like, "No, I'm at Macworld.""
:-)
"I also got a call from the Farrelly Brothers. They were like, "You know we really like your ad," so they wrote down my name or something."
"Supposedly, though, my agent is "floating my image," quote unquote. I don't know what the hell that means."
Kids...
Beware: In C++, your friends can see your privates!
When Apple asked Ellen "What do you like? FreeBSD?" Ellen though they said "What do you like? Freebasing?" and hired her on the spot.
Trolling is a art,
"Area girl friends with TV director's son, gets part in ad!"
Does this sound like an Onion article?
There are a thousand forms of subversion, but few can equal the convenience and immediacy of a cream pie -Noel Godin
Classic parodies of Ellen Feiss
I'd like to point something out.
The normal adult human male (as shown by psychological studies) finds females to be in their _peak_ of attractiveness from the ages of 14 to 24. This is normal human sexuality for adult males to be attracted to teenage girls - males find teens more attractive than 30somethings.
The condition by the name of "Paedophillia" means being primarily attracted to pre-puberlessant children. This means under 12s; pre-puberlessants. A normal human male of any age is going to be capable of finding a 14 year old girl (and perhaps younger) both physically and mentally attractive.
It was considered in 19th century England that no normal woman could enjoy / want sex, and any one that did was perverted and immoral. Victorian England had great negative associations with sexuality in general. In the paedophile-hysteria of the last decade and half, people in English-speaking countries have falsely come to associate any attraction to under-18s as being 'sick'. If this is so, then just about everybody is sick. Of course, an inidividual's sexuality sits on a spectrum in regards to age just as it does to hetro/homosexuality, but more 40year old guys are going to be able to find this 15 year old Ellen Feiss attractive than ones who are not.
What I think is morally suspect is the righteous spouting from people who don't bother to carefully consider the truthfulness in their view of the world....
So I was on slashdot, composing the greatest troll in the world, and the post comment form was like "slow down cowboy", "invalid formkeys", "you're using too many caps, it's like yelling", "lameness filter encountered, post aborted", and I was like "hunhhhhh?"
/switched to kuro5hin.
And then when I hit the back key to try to repost my whole troll was gone.
And it was... like.... a bummer.
I'm A. Troll, and I
Even Wired beat you to the punch. Don't be so quick to assume that the 403 you see has anything to do with you.
You must be new here huh. They call it the "Slashdot effect" right?? Not the "Wired Effect". We've been launching legal DOS attacks since 1999. Get with the times buddy.
ghuy'. You dishonor me?!? I will drink the blood from your carcass insolent fool.
http://www.kli.org/tlh/newwords.html
WHY THE FUCK YOU ALL AREN'T DOING SOMETHING MORE PRODUCTIVE, like, say, WORKING right now
After you? Or do you work as Slashdot Troll Master?
Don't you all have stuffed penguins to fuck or something?
No, it's much more funny to let them drink until they pass out.
Beware: In C++, your friends can see your privates!
"Dude, you're getting a BOY!"
Karma: Chevy Kavalierma.
Neither. It wouldn't get past the power switch.
"So on one hand, honey is an amazingly sophisticated and efficient food source. On the other hand it's bee backwash."
This "BSD is dying" joke gets progressively older and less funny every time someone is lame enough to modify it for $topicAtHand
Janie took my gun...
Sure win2K and XP are more stable, but after tons of install/uninstalls of apps and programs the thing starts to seriously slow down and munge itself. Since 95 I've had windows corrupt it's own dll's atleast 2x a year on all the systems. This isn't even counting production boxes at work that have mysteriously killed IIS dll's.
The thought of having to tech support my Son's computer is beginning to make me throw up. He already has a skill for crashing win2K and XP by pressing down on a half dozen keys for a minute. Toddlers and young children don't know that microsoft didn't design the keyboard as a ladder or piano. All they know is when I push down on all the keys with my palm, the box makes lots of funny noises. I've seen young children bang on mac keyboards without causing it to lock up hard. Sure the ads are stupid, but many people consider themselves computer challenged. If buying a mac means I don't have to re-install windows on my Son's box 5x times a year, I'm there. I rather not waste 4 hours per install, when I could be doing other things more fun.
What about Kirsten Dunst? Can we ridicule her? I dunno... I have something with redheads, dyed or not.
She looked pretty hot in Spiderman though....
So Benadryl gives you the munchies?
Roving Web-Teleoperated Robot
I find it really, really pathetic that people are obsessing about a person in a commercial. JEsus, fetishizing commercials? For a group of people that are anti-big company, anti-commercial softweare, it's pretty damn hypocritical that a person who shows up in a fucking corporate commercial is being obsessed over. It's a commercial. Ignore it. Get on with your lives. Jesus, talk about commercialism gone rampant. Geeks hate commercialsm from big company X, but eat it up if it's from big company Y. That's like saying "I hate those nasty, big, soul-killing companies like Wal-Mart. But have you seent hat new K-Mart ad? It's so cool!"
Can we please get a slashdot interview with her, so we can ask some questions????
"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true." - Homer Simpson
"It's one thing to dupe your parents, but if this chick thinks we are going to believe shes not a stoner, she must be on dope. Just check out the photo. http://primeous.homestead.com/files/bondgirl2.jpg"
So, I was like making a really bad photo edit of Ellen Feiss, and then my computer went beepbeepbeepbeepbeep, and then I lost it. The computer devoured my really bad photo edit. So I had to start completely over, and I was rushed, and it wasn't as good. Which is saying a lot, 'cause the first one was crap.
Kierthos
Mr. Hu is not a ninja.
I'm in the UK, so I've missed out on the switcher ads, and didn't understand all this huge fuss about her.
According to the interview, they held a lookalike contest for her in Holland. She seems to be bigger than the US. I've seen the ad, and I don't really get it. Of course, I don't get NSync or Britney Spears - maybe you have to be 15 to get it.
like, really.
There must be nothing scarier than being stalked by the Mac community ...
Go vaguely scottish
"Dude, your getting a gel!"
It is precisely because she reinforces stereotypes about Americans (Californians, in particular) that we find her fascinating. Specifically, it's the vacant, listless, "I'm drugged to the gills" manner of speech she exhibited in the ad that made us laugh at her. She was just such an unlikely choice for a spokesperson - sincere, but not particularly articulate, her wit possibly dulled by the use of chemicals - that we couldn't help but celebrate her.
Plus, as it turns out, she was on drugs in that interview. Even if it was just an over-the-counter antihistimine.
Personally I think Momoko Kokikuchi is much cuter!
Right.
Who?
-- Note: If you don't agree with me, don't bother replying. I won't read it.
Guys. If you're going to be a lam0, and stalk a switcher, Ellen is a dead end. And, too young for even the high-schoolers among you.
Instead, I recommend Janie Porche. She's literate and smiles. A lot. Much easier to deal with, in the long run. Trust me on this one.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. (Einstein)
Just when you'd seen enough of Natalie Portman and Heidi Wall...
N4st0r, trixx0r h0bb1tz0rz! Th3y st0l3 0ur pr3c10uzz!
I am rather interested to know what thousands of people are so obsessed by Ellen Feis when all she did was pretty much act like a stupid teenager with a computer. Maybe its just me, but acting like an ignorent teen with a computer who says 'like' and is pretty much completely average overall (according to her performance) is not really something I aspire to. Is there some detail I am missing. I don't watch TV (but have seen the ad online), and this looked like standard 'stupid advertisement' with some decent writing. Honestly, the way people are obsessed by her is disturbing; I, like any geek, look up to certain people, but I have never been obsessed by someone to this degree, and especially just because they emulated dumb teen. Can anyone rationally explain this phenominon(sp)?
"What can a thoughtful man hope for mankind on Earth, given the experience of the past million years? Nothing." -Bokonon
Pitchbabe for Dayquil--"and I was going to a commercial, but my head on the cold medications was like, beep, beep, beep so my speech went zoink--it would have been a good commercial."
Why I'm a Linux user for life
:)
Who is this Anonymous Coward character, how does he post so much, and why is he always such a whore?
Reminded me of Foxtrot:
Link
It's a bit off-topic for an Ellen Feiss thread, couldn't agree more regarding Linux's tendency toward Windows look-alike interfaces. This would apply to both the desktop and the way applications work.
l in es/HIGuidelines-2.html
I understand why Linux developers look to Windows. It's a familiar environment for most users. But I think we don't give users enough credit: provide them a well thought-out, consistent, attractive interface, and they'll do well. Of these three atrributes, consistency is the key.
The cool thing about the Mac interface is that everything works the same. No matter what you're running, you'll know where to find things. Windows behave consistently from app to app. Once you've spent a couple hours on a Mac, it's a BETTER pointy-clicky interface than Windows.
Mac developers design their interfaces with the Macintosh Human Interface guidelines in mind. I wish there were something similar in the Linux world:
http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/mac/HIGuide
Ah, yes: we must maintain our choices. No consistent interface for us. Long live the Revolution.
This is my post. There are many others like it. If you don't like what you read here, go try one of the others.
ArsTechnica has a discussion with the full article as well as a candid photo of Ellen for those of you who just can't get enough.
-- Mark Lyon http://www.marklyon.org
...when we have Janie Porche to obsess over instead?
Did Apple compensate you for the commercial at all?
I'm not actually sure how much I got paid because it was in installments, and the whole contract was dealt with by my parents, so I'm not actually sure. Oh, and I got an iPod. It's like the coolest thing ever.
Only a geek would shrug aside money for an iPod!
But I guess I've seen stoners fascinated by shiny things though....
Something tells me her teacher didn't buy the excuse, and she's obsessing over it...
Does it make you happy you're so strange?
Hey, those Linux guys are more interesting than you might think....
grep -ri 'should work'
In a brilliant PR move, Apple has trademarked the word "Like" and is sending cease and desist letters on behalf of their new IP acquisition. The question of prior art has arisen, though the only clear contenders, Moonunit Zappa and "My So Called Life" have yet to respond at the time of this posting. Film at 11.
Zech Harvey, MCSE, MCDBA, CCNA
And for those who've had just a few American stereotypes too many, you can indulge in John's switch to Canada, eh?
Wah!
Alex Bischoff
HTML/CSS coder for hire
Do we need to start an Ellen Feiss Switch add campaign to migrate the last few Natalie Portman fans over to being Ellen Feiss fans?
"I kept sending notes and flowers to Natalie but I never got a response. Then one day I got this cease and desist letter and this lawyer said something about a restraining order. That was like totally rude. That was the day I realized Natalie just didn't understand me. That was the day that I found Ellen Feiss on Slashdot. She knew who I was and understood everything about me. She said it like right to me 'these people don't have lives', that was me. We just have so much in common, I don't like that Dell dufus either. "
"My names Bob, I'm a Slashdot geek. I switched"
"Do not be swept up in the momentum of mediocrity." - anon
Do you realize what this means?
/. people actually read the article BEFORE posting.
For ONCE in the history of
Holy shit...
-- El Sacarino tiene gusto de la chocha
This was reported in US News & World Report last summer
It's advertising... Most things you see in advertising aren't real.
Maybe she's like me and has adverse reactions to allergy meds...sometimes I have to take them too, but I don't like to. For the record, I like smoking weed, but Benadryl doesn't make me stoned in a fun way -- or in a functional way. Just ask people who watched me stumble and almost stick my hand under a red-hot stove burner while trying to avoid falling on my face into the stove while on Benadryl...yow!
Speaking of yow, your sig, dude. Thanks for the "Visualization mode OFF!" moment for today.
I'm not a geek, I'm just a clever script.
Please don't post spoilers without indication in the subject line. The interview has not yet been released in zimbabwe, so some of us have not been able to read it yet.
You /.'ed Ellen Feiss. Slashdot has brought bad mojo to us all...
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It's just that yours is stupid.
That's the smartest thing ever said by a temporary celebrity about temporary celebrity.
Here are the pictures taken at the Holland party where everyone dressed up as Ellen. Some people are very scary!
That's the last straw. Did we really need to know the destination of your oral fluids???
I'm now officially declaring a JIHAD on those spawns of satan, Joke Congratulation Posts.
Jokes? Fine. I've no problem with them. A lot of jokes on slashdot are at least a good attempt at being amusing. But joke congratulation posts? Whether satirical or straight, they just blow goats.
I'm sorry. I'm now going on a one-man crusade to mark all joke congratulation posts, irrespective of their origin, as -1 Overrated. You may call me sad and pathetic, you may call me strange - but I retort that those who post Joke Congratulation Posts are even sadder!
Female Prison Rape in NY
I believe NYC pays more in taxes than it gets in
spending.
I sincerely doubt that anyone would attempt to pay
you to visit California or anywhere else.
Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems."
Defense contractor? Let's see how long you think that's a "nice" job. You'll be burning an ounce a week by your second month.
'She's on drugs.'
No she's not; she's thinking. Go get her a Pepsi.
.........
She's not cazy!
Institutionalized!
It is cowardly, and a betrayal of whatever it means to be a Jew, to act as a white man
-James Baldwin
check the sig
(yeah, i'm promoting it a lot - stupid eds wouldn't take the story - probably hitting too close to home?...)
Robots are everywhere, and they eat old people's medicine for fuel.
The major cities are so much more productive than the outlying regions, it's incredible. Do you (speaking rhetorically to the parent, since I'm echoing rather than criticizing) have any idea just how much work people do in New York and San Francisco and Chicago and LA? It's Republican-voting red-state flyover-country that's nursing on the government teat.
As far as the original topic goes, don't mistake the insouciant California manner with stupidity. (After all - it was a really good paper.)
She looked pretty hot in Spiderman though....
Yeah, her nipples were like two stacks of dimes....
Don't mind me. Too much Benadryl...
Robots are everywhere, and they eat old people's medicine for fuel.
I suffer from sever seasonal allergies. I get bloodshot eyes and suffer from allergy induced stupidity. Most allergy medicines remove the burning eyes, but put me to sleep. The effects are so bad that until I got a perscrition for alegra, I stopped taking the meds at all. Hell, I moved to Alaska to get away from my allergies.
I'm willing to cut her some slack and beleive her. This isn't Anna Nicole Smith showing up on the Howard Sternm show stoned.
Boobies never hurt anyone. - Sherry Glaser.
Anyway, at the time, Mac marketshare was about 4% as measured by various independant statistics bodies and (of course ;) Google. At the time, Apple claimed 1 in 10 Mac users had upgraded to OS X. Linux market share was a fraction under 2%. If 1/10ths of the Mac market at 4% had upgraded, that gives a market share for OS X as being 0.4% right? That means that desktop Linux had about 4x the market share of MacOS. Now, I've been generous in the last post and said double, because undoubtably since then as more apps have been ported to OS X and so on more Macs will be running os x than were previously. I'm also assuming Linux hasn't grown in that time at all (unlikely, but we can let it stand for now).
Hence my original assertion. I hope that satisfies you, I could dig out the actual URLs to Apples figures and such but Slashdot covered it at the time and I'm going out soon.
Open the Applications directory
Open the Utilities directory
Scroll down and find the Terminal application
Drag it to your Doc (at bottom) so it's one click away from then on.
From then on,
Click on the terminal app in the dock.
Horny geeks. Cute chic. Need I say more? (Yes I'm aware of her age. It's just a commercial.)
So, to imply that CITIES==LIBERALS==PROVIDE TAX MONEY whereas EXURBAN==CONSERVATIVES==TAKE TAX MONEY is a completely bogus argument.
Besides, cities have MUCH higher tax rates anyway. Is this something we all aspire to?
FYI...I live in NYC, the municipality with the highest total tax burden in the U.S. I pay a sh!tload in taxes. Don't assume that just because much of NYC is liberal doesn't mean that all of its residents are liberal when it comes to tax policy. There are some of us out there who aren't.
Shame on Google.
Hey, why not? He can test kernels under VirtualPC and still have the benefit of using a decent GUI for a change.
-- thinkyhead software and media
Think there is any chance of a "big one" extending the gulf of mexico another couple hundred miles? That would take care of the real nasty parts of this country much better than the loss of California?
I believe in the "save early, save often" theory. Hell I even ^A^C to save my slashdot comments since this site is so fucking obnoxious about throwing them away and then reloading the page when I hit the back button so the form is cleared... thanks, slashdot!
Of course, I didn't learn until about the fifteenth time I typed a page or so of text in less than two minutes. And it was, like, a bummer.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Please grow up, or at least wait for HER to...
... there is no spoon
You should be able to just hit 'refresh' at the 2 minute warning page and tell it to resend the form data. Works fine with Mozilla and IE.
What?
Hint -> Convert 00000010 to decimal. Now read the joke again.
Yeah, right.
Ellen Feiss is a lot like most 15-year-olds
Fifteen? Why God...? WHY!!! I thought I had found my dream girl, but she's just jail bait.
She is pretty cute, though. Just needs to lay off the Benadryl. /Brian
The clipboard is your friend.
From what I understand, the only differences between some pc peripherals and mac ones nowadays is that all mac peripherals have to be compatible with open firmware (IEEE-1275) for that true plug and play feeling.
To the right of my iMac I have 2 external drives, 1HD and a CD-RW which is the reason that consumer macs don't have extra bays, traditionally they kept their add on drives external. It does make 'moving things over' much easier as it's just plugging it into the firewire port of your new computer. Plus, you get to add more than 4 drives without screwing up the internal case heat load along the way. I believe the firewire device limit is 63 devices in the network.
Huh? Yes, she used the word bombard, but she used it incorrectly. It's a verb, not a noun (unless she was referring to an ancient cannon).
ef:"When we get back two weeks later, it's like a bombard, it was so big."
Read it context, she probably meant to say that it's like being bombarded.
Varies between states. Age of consent for around the world.
All editorial writers ever do is come down from the hill after the battle is over and shoot the wounded.
Terrifically fun read. She's obviously cooler than the people twice her age (and more) who fetishize her. And do you know what her secret is, you middle-aged cueballs with your Feiss t-shirts and coffee mugs? Have you not read your Nabokov? She doesn't give a fuck. Ha, ha! The ultimate object of worship in our pandering age is the celebrity created out of nothing, who doesn't care, who really can't be bothered, for whom it just happened and for whom just as easily one day it will un-happen, and, meanwhile, whose sheer disinterest turns the covetous world on its ear.
Actually a correct translation from Hebrew shows that the commandment (Exodus 20:13) is really "Thou shalt not murder".
All editorial writers ever do is come down from the hill after the battle is over and shoot the wounded.
Depends on the state. CT it would be legal or illegal, legal by the age of consent but potentially illegal for damaging the morals of a minor(AOC is 15, the morals law goes away at 16). Several states have an age of consent set at 14 or 15. I believe 14 is the lowest in the US.
For those who don't feel like cut n pasting (esp with that dang silly /. space in there)
http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/mac/HIGuidelin es/HIGuidelines-2.html
I didn't know Benadryl was slang for weed. Someone should tell her that smoking pot is actually bad for her allergies.
Of course not! I am careful to be always kind to animals. That's a completely bogus analogy.
The one and only (and totally acceptable) True Way to register laughter on slashdot is to rate posts "+1 Funny". Anything else is punishable by immediate karma hits!
HAND,
--
The Slashdot Humour Police
Female Prison Rape in NY
Huh? I thought market share was how much of the market used a particular product. So if 4% of the computer desktop market uses Macs, but only 2% of those machines use OS X, the the market share for the Mac is 4%, and the marketshare for OS X is 2%. Am I missing something here?
The next two things cannot be easily measured. The number of people that do not run Mac OS X and always switch back to Mac OS 9 on their new Macs. Plus, some people switch between the two and spend more time in one or the other. The other difficult to measure item is not only the number of desktop Linux seats, but the number of them that spend a majority of their time in Linux. I would bet that a majority of the Linux desktop seats out there spend a significant amount of time, if not a majority of time booted into Windows.
When those Linux stats were measured, it was what you use the majority of the time iirc. So for instance I use Linux perhaps 90% of the time, but still use Windows occasionally. I'd be measured as a Linux user. If you count Linux desktop seat as any machine with a desktop distro installed, then you might well be correct (though i'd guess not, after all if you hardly ever use it why keep it installed?).
Well, you are quite correct, I went and looked it up. I was confusing the two, though I normally see marketshare and installed base treated as the same by others, hence my confusion.
So right now, Apple has roughly 3-4% marketshare depending on whose numbers you trust. That means, out of the 100% of machines sold in the past quarter, Apple accounts for roughly 3-4%
So does that mean you can't count things that are given away for free as marketshare? If I download Redhat 8, does that download count as part of their marketshare or not?
thanks -mike
> People getting off on this and being excited must be addicted to kiddie pr0n then.
;-)
What an insipid and societally brainwashed attitude. A 15 year old is typically in the middle stages of adolescence, and therefore will be sexually attractive to a majority of adult males. Indeed, in the interview she mentions that the Farrelly brothers had some interest in casting her for a film, until they learned that she was only 15--by implication they thought she was older.
Therefore, physically, what's the difference between a 15 year old Ellen Feiss and an 18 year old it's socially acceptable to find attractive? Nothing. There are *assumed* differences in maturity and intellect which make it socially unacceptable for adults to express sexual attraction towards 15 year olds--though not in all countries and cultures. That does not however mean that the attraction doesn't or shouldn't exist--it does exist, as proven time and again by performing tests on control groups of "average" adult males using penile plethismographs.
So, don't mistake a social convention for anything more than it is. Psychologically, it is considered normative for adult males to be sexually attracted to mid and late adolescents; pedophilia by definition is a condition which only applies if the adult is primarily attracted to pre-adolescents. Unfortunately, most Americans and some from other Puritanical countries don't even want to acknowledge biological and psychological facts, instead equating normative attraction (notice I said attraction, not taking action on it) with pedophilia or other conditions of abnormality.
To sum up: Ellen Feiss looks very fuckable, and it's perfectly okay for an adult to admit that.
Chasing Amy
(We all chase Amy...)
"The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws"-Tacitus
There's no test in existance which will detect that you smoked some dirt weed when you were 15, or will find those bong hits you did in college.
A background check will. You have to allow a moderately thorough background check when applying for a Secret clearance, and a brutally comprehensive one for any level above that. At the end of it, they'll be able to tell you where you get your drugs, what kind you buy, how much you pay for it, and what your preferred snack food is during those little "private moments."
This is A Good Thing. As a taxpayer-- boy, am I ever-- I would not be happy to know that the people entrusted with our national security secrets are going home and burning one after work every night.
"And now, here's a guy who's a real po-theed. Oh, sorry, that's 'pot head.'"
I write in my journal
It's not circular. While murder means killing, killing doesn't necessary mean murder. If you kill someone in an act of self defense, it is not murder.
All editorial writers ever do is come down from the hill after the battle is over and shoot the wounded.
Murder is wrongful killing. I find this to be a very unproblematic definition, and hope you will get as much use out of it as I have.
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Get that girl some medical marijuana, STAT!
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If that's your planned line of defence, I recommend that you think of another. No judge will buy that. ;)
OLPC Australia
It was assumed in my post that people knew the correct definition of murder and/or had a dictionary close by...
Umm, did you even read my post? It's quite apparent that I know the differences between murder and killing.
All editorial writers ever do is come down from the hill after the battle is over and shoot the wounded.
I was simply offering a clarification of the subset relation. Merely a refinement of your point -- don't be so touchy.
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