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University of Twente Back Online

UncleH writes "University of Twente is back online again, after the University NOC burned to ashes on wednesday. This also means that the much discussed University Campus network is also fully available again. The university already had internet access through a masquerading box in the network of their neighbours. Big hurrah for the network engineers of the University, large applause for the network engineers of SURFnet for restoring the 10Gbps Point of Presence within 36 hours after the fire."

189 comments

  1. Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    The University of Tene was only half as good.

    1. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      does Canada even have an army?

    2. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, but they do have a navy.

  2. Even Better... by David+Walker · · Score: 0, Redundant

    And the university of Forte is twice as good!

    1. Re:Even Better... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Suck my fat cock

    2. Re:Even Better... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that you, dad?

    3. Re:Even Better... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      whoa, tonight must be my lucky night. first a guy tells me to "eat shit" which is like, my #1 fantasy, and now you want me to suck your cock? damn! do the happy dance!

      so where do you want meet? should I bring a rubber or what?

  3. I bet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...someone must have put a fire under their asses to get it done that quick. Oh wait...

  4. oh, no! by Tuxinatorium · · Score: 1

    Those students had to go 36 hours without pr0n???

    1. Re:oh, no! by isolenz · · Score: 0

      no, I believe that pr0n can be stored on your hd (whatever the hell that is)... As I've been told

      -isolenz

    2. Re:oh, no! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Collge is a great big drunken fuckfest. They were probably screwing on the quad and in the cafeteria. Bunch of whores with herpes.

    3. Re:oh, no! by HillBilly · · Score: 1

      You think they could sue for the stress cause by lack of internet?

      --
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    4. Re:oh, no! by tsa · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Come on, this is Holland! I bet the girls on the campus (there are about 7 of them I think) have had a hard time though... :-)

      --

      -- Cheers!

    5. Re:oh, no! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You obviously have no knowledge about the situation here. I live at the UT campus and since there are mostly technical studies here there's a lack of women. hence the amount of pr0n.

  5. Whoa... by dirkdidit · · Score: 2, Funny

    Damn that must have been some hot hot file trading to burn the internet equipment.

    1. Re: Whoa... by saskboy · · Score: 1

      They were probably accessing the new material at Asia the Geek's web site after learning of its existance after reading the /. article about Star Trek Nemisis trailers. Star Trek is really big over in Europe, you know.

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    2. Re:Whoa... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it was probably the Slashdot article from a few days back. The article submitter submitted it knowing that, once posted, the server would burst into flames and burn down the NOC, creating the fire mentioned in the story.

    3. Re: Whoa... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Nasty, that cunt is like 60 years old now.

  6. Erm ... by carb · · Score: 4, Funny
    Big hurrah for the network engineers of the University, large applause for the network engineers of SURFnet for restoring the 10Gbps Point of Presence within 36 hours after the fire.

    And one giant hurrah for the original structural engineers for building us one giant flamable deathtrap.

  7. Congratulations... by anthonyrcalgary · · Score: 5, Funny

    And the first thing to happen after getting back online is getting slashdotted. :)

    --
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    1. Re:Congratulations... by winnetou · · Score: 4, Funny
      And the first thing to happen after getting back online is getting slashdotted. :)

      $ date --rfc-822; time lynx -dump www.utwente.nl | wc
      Sat, 23 Nov 2002 02:38:31
      183 551 7907

      real 0m0.182s
      user 0m0.090s
      sys 0m0.010s

    2. Re:Congratulations... by jesser · · Score: 3, Funny

      Slashdot editors: in a few hours, please post an article entitled "University of Twente No Longer Slashdotted".

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  8. Shouldn''t it now be University of Twente-one ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Sorry to the guy who came up with this nonsense in the previous story. I posted this without his copyright permission.

  9. In other News.. by He+Was+Gamecubed · · Score: 2, Funny

    In other news, the world's largest interconnecting bandwidth pipes have a usage increase of roughly 50%. This is thought to be a result of University of Twente students catching up on all the latest pr0n, warez, and mp3 that is a vital part of the university experience

    1. Re:In other News.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mp3? Yes. Warez? Check. pr0n? No.

      That's what girlfriends are for.

    2. Re:In other News.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MEOW! *whipcrack*

      Someone is trying to impress someone, and its not the /. community.

  10. and now ... by h4x0r-3l337 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    let the pr0n flow!

  11. engineers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >big hurrah for the network engineers of the University, large applause for the network engineers of SURFnet

    Ummm that's misuse of the title engineer :)

  12. Oh good they made backups... by saskboy · · Score: 1

    "The network should be operational again as soon as possible," said Van Vught. "We do not yet know how long this will take, but it will certainly take a few days." He does not expect the UT to have lost much data. A back-up was made this weekend. "

    I bet the tapes were sitting next to their proprietary tape drives too. Melty Melty.

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    1. Re:Oh good they made backups... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, they kept the weekly backups in a different building. Smart thinking eh? So Van Vught was right for a change.

      Unfortunately the Math department wasn't so smart, their backup tapes were in a fire-repellent safe which wasn't fire-repellent enough :-( Some of the researchers in the building lost years and years of study results and valuable study books. The network server wasn't the only thing in the building, several hundred people (mostly researchers) lost their work rooms.

      Anyway: the day after the main network burned down, another fire was started in the Computer Science building, next to THEIR main server room. There was a lot of gasoline and a lighted match. Fortunately this fire didn't spread, there was just a scorched place in the carpet.

      Wanna make a bet whether the CIV fire was arson?

  13. So!? by SHEENmaster · · Score: 2, Funny

    The hidden webcams were back up, popups and all, withing 12 hours!

    Capitalism is said to be driven by greed, but I think a more powerfull force is at work!

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    1. Re:So!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  14. Re: Deathtrap? by saskboy · · Score: 3, Funny

    No one died in the fire, as I read on the website.
    Unless you are talking about the death of the computers.

    Bless their Pentium, and RISC souls.

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  15. gentlemen by UU7 · · Score: 1

    Gentlemen ... START YOUR P2P APPS...

  16. and i hope we all learned our lesson. by frenetic3 · · Score: 4, Funny

    this is what happens when too many lonely college students try to download "too hot for tv.mpg" at once and don't take the filename seriously.

    --
    "Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket?"
  17. Good for them. by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What was the cause of the fire anyway?

    1. Re:Good for them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdot article origianlly posted that talked about the fire:
      http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/11/20/132259 &tid=99

    2. Re:Good for them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      too bad all of the followups aren't in english foo...

    3. Re:Good for them. by brrrrrrt · · Score: 3, Informative

      Fire was started by an anonymous coward.
      2 tiny fires were already put out the day before the big fire.
      Jerrycans with petrol and matches were found in the (remaining part of the) building.
      1 guy was arrested today. The police refused to comment about him.

    4. Re:Good for them. by Drahca · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Although this is not official (yet), the cause seems to be arson. From the official anouncement of CIV (loosly translated in, Center for Information Services):

      "Nothing is known yet about the cause, the police have started an investigation. It is true however, that their have been reports of 2 small fires in the same building the day before the fire. Security has been increased due to this. The exact cause of the big fire is not known at this moment."

      Today there was another incident. They found fuel and matches in the building housing the most IT services (second only to the TWRC building, which has burnt down). Some people claim it was already burning and they were able to put out the fire. All people leaving that building (building of Computer Science) were checked for fuel fumes.

      This is indeed the most interesting exams period I have ever had here at the University.

    5. Re:Good for them. by oddrune · · Score: 3, Informative

      As yet, the cause of the fire is unknown. Technical investigators will look into it and investigate the possibility of the fire having been started. This may take some time. .. from: http://srv1ut.utwente.virtu.nl/en/news/engels1.doc /

    6. Re:Good for them. by NotAnotherReboot · · Score: 2

      That part about this being the exams period definitely leaves room for a motive to do this.

  18. Re:I bet... mods on crack. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Moderators on crack still.
    Please send money to PayPal to pay for their methodone.

  19. Deliberate attack on Debian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I believe this computing facility hosted a Debian mirror. Let us not think that this fire was due to some type of isolated eletrical fault or a gas leak. I think this is a deliberate strike against Debian. People are heartily sick of the ceaseless but apt-get is sooo cool repetition that goes on, unfettered by common sense. Unfounded self-righteousness and wanker elitism is to blame for this act. Debian users...take this as a warning. Other Debian mirrors will surely suffer the same fate as this one. This situation is preventable. Just shut up about apt-get. Gentoo and BSD users are more 3733+ than you anyway

    1. Re:Deliberate attack on Debian by winnetou · · Score: 1
      I believe this computing facility hosted a Debian mirror.

      security.debian.org is now hosted at klecker.debian.org. However, according to Debian's security list:

      We expect the next security advisories to be sent out on Monday, since all packages that were already prepared for release on Wednesday are lost and need to be rebuilt.
    2. Re:Deliberate attack on Debian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      security.debian.org is now hosted at klecker.debian.org. However, according to Debian's security list

      Can you guess which installation is going to be hit next? Thus, it's especially fitting that this server is named after the deceased Joel 'Espy' Klecker, the first (but not last) Debian developer to actually die from boredom waiting for Woody to be released.

      Hope the insurance at the server farm covers fire damage....

  20. Quick... by BSOD+from+above · · Score: 4, Funny

    everybody link to their home page. If the T1 doesn't smoke, the server will.

    If we just /. spam servers, maybe they will go up in smoke too. Definitely worth a shot.

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    Karma: Censored (mostly affected by decency laws)
    1. Re:Quick... by Adam9 · · Score: 2

      Damn.. I wish I had 10gbps on my T1.

  21. Makes you realise how much you depend on it... by Idaho · · Score: 5, Informative

    I am a student at this university, and one of the people who had no internet connection for 2 days because of this.

    The thing is, you don't realise how much you use the Internet everyday until something like this happens.

    It's not that you can't read Slashdot and some other sites - I can do without that for a week or two (honestly, I swear!! :-)

    The thing is, there are exams this week and next week, and you run into problems like this:

    - There is a system where you can see at what location your exams are - *on the internet*.
    - Part of the things you have to learn for exams are on the internet (central server containing a lot of this stuff, which has been burnt away as well).
    - You don't have a clue whether your exams will even take place, maybe the original assignments are burned so they have to make a new exam (might well have been in some cases, and turns out to be the case for one of my exams).
    - You can't mail people to make an appointment or ask about what is going to happen next, you actually have to go there or someway find out their telephone number (if you don't have it - I nearly always use ICQ or mail). I usually look up telephone numbers using...you guessed it...the internet.

    I can go on some more, but I think you can fill in the rest for yourself: you *really* become very dependent on something as "simple" as a permanent internet connection.

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    1. Re:Makes you realise how much you depend on it... by puto · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not to be a jerk, more like devils advocate.

      My univerity had all those resources in the early 90's as well.

      But:
      1. Usually all teachers give out contact info besides email and ICQ. Telephones and such.

      2.University Telephone Directory? Call information?

      3.Good old fashioned book learning?

      4. Dont trust computers to keep vaulabe stuff you need for exams, copies should have been made at least 3 weeks before exam.

      5. If you know the material, what difference if its a new exam? Unless you have one from a testbank and have only studied that instead of the answers. Besides if the exam burned, it is your teachers problem.

      And last but not least you can leave your dorm/apartment and walk your lazy ass over to wherever your information might be, or to the campus and see who knows what is up.

      This is the problem these days, too much reliance on the computer. All of the items you mentioned could have been solved with a quick walk. Or using something as archaic as a telepone.

      I for one would have been watching the action, walked around campus, looked at chicks, talked to my teachers, got involved in the mix.

      Do you think in those two says there were more people getting laid? Riding bikes? Doing something other than vegging out?

      I was an CS major and I was encouraged to only have email communication. But I went around, talked to my professors, did other stuff. No one ever beleived I was a CS geek.

      Just a few thoughts.

      Puto

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    2. Re:Makes you realise how much you depend on it... by donutello · · Score: 3, Funny

      I had this NOC. It was a great NOC. I really like the NOC. It told me where my exams were and stuff. Then it burned up and I was like uhhuhhh. And then I had to look at the university phone book to figure out everyones phone number. It was like ... a bummer.

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    3. Re:Makes you realise how much you depend on it... by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 2

      In the event my university's datacentre burned down, we would be in a world of hurt because it also hoses the Lucent 7/RE (new version of the 5ESS) phone switch that handles all campus phones. Of course, it would be rather difficult to burn down, they had that in mind when they made it.

    4. Re:Makes you realise how much you depend on it... by KFK2 · · Score: 1
      1. Usually all teachers give out contact info besides email and ICQ. Telephones and such.
      Yeh, that contact info is usually on the syllabus at my school.. but I tend to loose those very quickly, and How are you supposed to know if the prof is even going to be in? Voice Mail you say? what's that?

      2.University Telephone Directory? Call information?
      I happen to know how the Campus Information gets it's phone numbers.. you guessed it.. The IntrAnet

      3.Good old fashioned book learning?
      Not if the only copy of the assignment was on the server.

      4. Dont trust computers to keep vaulabe stuff you need for exams, copies should have been made at least 3 weeks before exam.
      How can you make copies 3 weeks before the exam when you don't even get the what's going to be on the exam till the class day before the exam or at best 2 class days before.

      It is true, you never know how much you take for granted till it's not there. Take High-Speed 'net access.. (like my university provides). When I go home, all we can get is Dial-Up, I never realized how much I use the internet like my book-shelf until I can't get my "books" as fast as I usually can (SGI STL reference for one.. no I'm not printing it out - and after buying required course books, I'm not spending more money on a book where I can access the info for free)

      Yes, I too, am a CS major, I get out, I interact with my professors, I do other stuff.. but e-mail is a lot easier then looking for a professor when I have a question, I can shoot an e-mail off, go on to another assignment, and when I get a reply continue.

    5. Re:Makes you realise how much you depend on it... by EvanED · · Score: 2

      "Yeh, that contact info [telephone #s] is usually on the syllabus at my school.. but I tend to loose those very quickly, and How are you supposed to know if the prof is even going to be in? Voice Mail you say? what's that?"

      Or in my case, where for some classes (comp sci, physics), it's *only* online.

      "Yes, I too, am a CS major, I get out, I interact with my professors, I do other stuff.. but e-mail is a lot easier then looking for a professor when I have a question, I can shoot an e-mail off, go on to another assignment, and when I get a reply continue."

      Exactly.

      Plus I have a situation where all my physics and comp sci homework is due online.

    6. Re:Makes you realise how much you depend on it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are an idiot. His point was not that are *no* workarounds - his point was that the loss was a disruption during a stressful time (exams).

      Instead some fucking wanker says ~you should have planned for this and printed your exam schedule 3 weeks in advance~ (sidenote: any wanker talking about printing exam schedules 3 weeks in advance should not talk about getting laid later. Red flags of moronic wanker talking about that one time in band camp fly up...)

    7. Re:Makes you realise how much you depend on it... by DeathToBill · · Score: 1

      My comments can only be taken in the context of The University of Adelaide, but I think it is representative of other universities around the place.

      1. Usually all teachers give out contact info besides email and ICQ. Telephones and such.

      Yes, they are published in their lecture notes... which are online.

      2.University Telephone Directory?

      ... which is online.

      Call information?

      The switchboard just uses the online 'phone directory.

      3.Good old fashioned book learning?

      Yes, using books found in the library catalogue... which is only available online.

      4. Dont trust computers to keep vaulabe stuff you need for exams, copies should have been made at least 3 weeks before exam.

      Come off it, I've just studied about 600 pages of lecture notes for three weeks, I am not going to make hard copies of them just so I can use them for those three weeks.

      5. If you know the material, what difference if its a new exam? Unless you have one from a testbank and have only studied that instead of the answers. Besides if the exam burned, it is your teachers problem.

      It makes a difference because lecturers are notorious for reusing past examinations and there is an established history of a large percentage of students failing when the exam is significantly different to previous years' exams. This is not exactly justification from the moral high ground, but you get the picture...

      Like it or not, the network has become a crucial piece of infrastructure in many organisations around the world. There is no good reason why this shouldn't be so; the network is not intrinsically evil, such that it will corrupt us all if we rely on it. This particular network has suffered a catastrophic failure, but that fire could just as well have been in the telephone switchboard, denying all 'phone conversations, or indeed in the computer science building, which would have made all the lecturers inaccessable.

      It is all very well to say, "But I went around, talked to my professors," but that is not really a scalable study method when 130 students want to review a semester long course.

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  22. As Geeks Celebrate by Alien54 · · Score: 3, Funny
    The restoration of the University pr0n collection.

    Some folks had gone into a panic:

    No! No! Not the the pr0n!
    Aeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

    We could go on, but you get the idea.

    --
    "It is a greater offense to steal men's labor, than their clothes"
  23. neighbours by Traa · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The neighbours also have their site in English. They offer serverspace from an old Dutch gold storage facility (nuclear safe building deep underground). As cool as this is their quality leaves something to be desired ;-)

    (the error in the last link is theirs, not mine...try it yourself by going to this page and clicking on "qualty".....really...quite funny)

    1. Re:neighbours by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nuclear safe, ten meters under ground? I don't think so!

    2. Re:neighbours by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not 10, 8 actually.

  24. wow by tps12 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm surprised to see such outpouring of emotion over this event. The first story had hundreds of comments, and this one looks like it's headed the same way. Frankly, I'm saddened. Granted, fires are scary things, and shouldn't be taken lightly. But come on...no one died, and a single building of computers burnt down. Considering the violence and tragedy that occurs around the world every day, is the loss of a couple thousand dollars of (insured) plastic, metal and silicon really cause for such dramatics? I know this is "News for Nerds," but nerds are people too. Or so I thought. Sometimes I wonder if there's any humanity left on Slashdot...

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    1. Re:wow by David+Walker · · Score: 1

      Frankly, I'm saddened. Granted, fires are scary things, and shouldn't be taken lightly. But come on...no one died, and a single building of computers burnt down

      OK, now we extract the important bits...

      a single building of computers

      SWEET

    2. Re:wow by circletimessquare · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I agree. this is the third story related to this: the original fire, then a focus on backup policies, and then a follow up? honestly, why is this fire treated with such interest? basically, a building burnt down. it had a bunch of computers in it. why should we be interested?

      "well you answered your own question, it's really about backup and emergency handling and rebuilding efforts."

      ok, but show me how this fire is different from maybe 100 other fires of a similar nature with similar cause and effect and a similar bandwidth size that didn't warrant a peep from slashdot. i mean c'mon, what next? "backhoe causes intermittent net access failure to bucks county pennsylvania! film at 11!" frankly, who cares?

      i don't get it.

      i don't think we need a story system like kuro5hin, but howabout this: since we already metamoderate the moderators, why not metamoderate the editors? if the problem is that you can identify the editor who posted the story, well, start hiding the editor's identity on the original story so things don't get stupid and personal. hide the story submitter's identity as well. i think the editors can handle the blow to their egos, having their little tags removed from the story post. and as someone who has had 2 stories posted here, i can handle not having my name appear on the story i posted, what do i friggin' care?

      oh boo hoo hoo! i live to see my name on slashdot! lol ;-P

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    3. Re:wow by Idarubicin · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Considering the violence and tragedy that occurs around the world every day, is the loss of a couple thousand dollars of (insured) plastic, metal and silicon really cause for such dramatics?

      If there was a fire in the Louvre, and nobody was hurt, there would be no cause for concern, now would there? If the Mona Lisa was turned to ashes, why should we care? It's a hundred bucks worth of canvas and oil paint. Might be worth a bit more if it has a nice frame. On the other hand, it's pretty old, so we would have to account for depreciation.

      Physical objects can have emotional and cultural significance. Some good stuff has come out of the University of Twente. Many on Slashdot know (or are) good people who have been greatly inconvenienced by this event. No, it's not the Louvre, nor is it the Tower of London, nor the Parthenon, nor even the White House. (Incidentally, soldiers from Canada burned the original President's Mansion during the War of 1812.)

      But we are nerds, and our monuments happen to have a slightly different flavour--more functional than ornamental (I do include the White House in this comparision.) Why shouldn't we have something to say about it? Besides, if you read the posts, many tongues remained firmly in cheek. Lots of smiles about hot pr0n, and reference to The Register's photo collection of the World's Worst Server Rooms.

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    4. Re:wow by Permission+Denied · · Score: 5, Interesting
      I'm surprised to see such outpouring of emotion over this event.

      I think the outpouring of emotion is because a lot of us can relate to those network engineers - but not on this scale.

      It's about getting a page at 22:00 because a brownout at 17:00 fried a router and it takes you an hour to drive to the closet, it takes some time to figure out the router died, back to the office to set up a replacement, back to the closet, etc. You end up back home at 03:00. I'm not a network engineer, but I've seen some of the stuff these guys put up with.

      Can you imagine the chaos those engineers and administrators faced? You have to wonder how much sleep they got over this period. And you can imagine the thoughts going through their heads as they watched their NOC burn down (of course, thoughts of "Oh shit" come after learning that nobody died or was injured - if you're worried first about the equipment instead of human lives, then yes, there's something wrong, but I can imagine the oncoming dread as you learn all your work is gone and you MUST come up with a replacement DAMNED QUICK).

      Getting a page or phone call in the evening really sucks, but you can usually go home at the end of the day. These guys probably worked their asses off for days on end.

      I congratulate these engineers and admins and offer a virtual beer.

    5. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i think the editors can handle the blow to their egos

      You must be new here.

    6. Re:wow by David+Walker · · Score: 1

      C:\>tracert life.liberty.pursuit-of-happiness

      No, they changed it, now it's "Life, Liberty-- shut your damn proletariat mouth"

      didn't you get the memo?

    7. Re:wow by OneFix · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think it's frame of reference. Everyone on here has likely seen a fire...most of us have networking/data center backgrounds (to some extent)...the issues are important for some of us...

      But I'm actually surprised that you somehow think that sympathizing with one cause somehow means that we are unsympathetic with another...

    8. Re:wow by circletimessquare · · Score: 1

      you don't understand my sig. think about it. then post. not the other way around, lol. ;-P

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    9. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      wow, i didnt know canada burnt down the original whitehouse... after we bomb iraq, lets go after canada!!

    10. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no, he did, and you're just a dumbass.

      i care, i think its amazing they got everything back and running in such a short time... and when the original post was made i didnt care about backup policies,..i cared about the servers, i actually felt sad knowing computers were burning.

      maybe im weird, in fact i am, ive almost committed suicide when my pc crashed once.

      maybe thats because my whole life is around a pc, my only friends are on AIM, and all i do all day is chat with them and read slashdot.. im pathetic i should just die. sigh.

    11. Re:wow by circletimessquare · · Score: 1

      wtf?! a suicidal troll? now that's funny! ;-P

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    12. Re:wow by johnalex · · Score: 3, Interesting

      We're not simply talking emotion here. Yes, I hate that Debian took the hit, but that's not the major issue with which many of us empathize.

      Having been in systems administration for a while now (including in a university setting), I assure you that most of us read the story and then wondered, "wow, how would I have handled the situation?" Then, we looked around our offices and realized that if our business (or campus) suffered a fire in the computer area, we would be the ones expected to pull a miracle out of the hat.

      I work at a business now that talks big about disaster recovery but won't ever spend the money for us to go offsite and test it. I've often half-jokingly said that our disaster recovery plan is putting a geek on a plane to our offsite location with two things: the latest backup tapes, and a blank checkbook. My fellow geek and I are going to try again soon to convince them to let us test the system. I hope we get to test the plan before we have to implement it.

      That's what is so big about this story. Many of us old timers have either been there or have had to imagine being there.

      --
      JA
      http://www.johnalex.org/
    13. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, and they work for free. Where's my violin?

    14. Re:wow by Profane+Motherfucker · · Score: 0, Troll

      Are you fucking nuts? You're equating the best preserved record of human fucking history in the Western World to a FUCKING NETWORK OPERATIONS CENTER? WHAT THE FUCK, CHUCK?

      You're goddamn fucking right it isn't the fucking Louvre or the Tower of London. Not even close. In fact, the shit I just took 30 minutes ago is closer to the Louvre than some fucking NOC.

      Physical objects can have emotional significance? Jesus Christ in a fucking Jetta! You might be on to something. I think I heard one or two people mention something about some Buddhist statues destroyed last year in Afghanistan. But until you mention it, I never would have guessed at the connection.

      Don't claim, with your nose hung high, that Oh We're Nerds, and You Just Don't Understand Our World. Fuck that bullshit. It's not as significant of an event as was made out to be.

    15. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      I don't know where the fuck it is - probably some third world country full of starving niggers, but they dump all this money into technology so it looks good to the western world. We should bomb those stupid towel-head gooks. What-the-fuck EVER, send them a fire extinguisher instead of rice next time.

    16. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Can you imagine the chaos those engineers and administrators faced? You have to wonder how much sleep they got over this period. "

      Actually, I can imagine that. I've been through it, through both personal and professional disasters. In this particular case, it may actually have been "better" for them that the facility was a complete loss. They weren't in there salvaging what was left after the fire. They had the relative luxury of calling it a day. I'd take that over going in the next day to a partially burnt, flooded, or quake damaged building, any time.

    17. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      At least they didn't have to spend much time figuring out if the router was fried...

    18. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure Mona Lisa or her painter wouldn't appreciate that bad mouth mister.

    19. Re:wow by stevey · · Score: 1
      nor even the White House. (Incidentally, soldiers from Canada burned the original President's Mansion during the War of 1812.)

      Something I've wondered for a while, as a non-American with too little knowledge of your country..

      The Banks house from the Fresh Prince of Bel Air - is it deliberately modelled after the white house? Or are there lots of houses like that in the USA?

      (Of topic I know, but I was suddenly reminded by your comment)

    20. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But everyone knows that the real Mona Lisa is in someones basement. The one in the louvre is just a good copy....

    21. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, that's not it. What's so tiring is that Slashdot nerds use this opportunity to vent their frustration over being ignored all the time. "See?!?! We are important after all!! We fix important things!! We're like firemen, really!"

      That's what's so sad.

    22. Re:wow by Doug+Neal · · Score: 1

      Woah. I think someone forgot their medication this morning ;)

    23. Re:wow by 3247 · · Score: 2
      Physical objects can have emotional and cultural significance. Some good stuff has come out of the University of Twente.
      But that stuff was rarely physical. So far, no one has mouned about the loss of important data.
      The hardware is nothing that can't be replaced.
      --
      Claus
    24. Re:wow by cmdr_beeftaco · · Score: 1

      Federal law requires that 1 out 3 homes built must have a "major design element" from the White House. So it answer your question yes most houses are white and large pillars. It is good that you Brits are watching Fresh Prince to better understand the complex culture and sociological underpinnings of the great country USA. You next assignment will be to watch Mel Gibson in The Patriot.

    25. Re:wow by stevey · · Score: 1

      Thanks for that - I was curious.

      It almost sounds a bit draconian though, worse than I was expecting from the land of the free.

      Over here in the UK we can have our houses how we like - we just have compulsory Fish + Chips every Friday..

  25. Re:I bet... mods on crack. by c.derby · · Score: 1

    methadone is used to treat addictions to codeine, morphine and heroin, not crack.

    --
    -- derby
  26. 10 Gbps... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    for me to POOP ON

  27. But sadly... by That+Nessy · · Score: 1

    it caught flames yet again. Damn slashdotters.

  28. Incredible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think it's awesome that they got the network back up and running so fast. I consider my school very proficient when it comes to managing the school network, but I don't think they'd be able to get the network back up that quickly in the event that something like that happened. To anyone who works for a University on their network: is your school making any changes to prepare itself in the event that something like this happens?

  29. Feiss... by c0dedude · · Score: 4, Funny

    So i was in the server room, and the fire alarm was like *beep beep beep* and i had to leave and i lost my server. it was a really good server.

    --
    Since when has this country used intellectual elite as a pejorative term?
    1. Re:Feiss... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can we please stop moderating up this crap?

      Thank you, drive thu.

    2. Re:Feiss... by compwiz3688 · · Score: 1

      it was a really good server.

      You won't missing it much once you see that it's really a depressed server (may be from all that fire).

      Too bad it's offline. Here's a mirror for those who haven't seen it.

    3. Re:Feiss... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PLEASE GOD MAKE IT STOP

      so who's started the "Enough With Stupid Brat Already" club? I want to join!!

    4. Re:Feiss... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      So i was in the server room, and the fire alarm was like *beep beep beep* and i had to leave and i lost my server. it was a really good server.
      It's kind of ... a bummer.
  30. Article on fire by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm surprised no one put a link to the original Slashdot entry...

  31. Wow by JTMON · · Score: 0

    That's friggin incredible!! 36 hrs and they're back already.

    ATTENTION MICROSOFT...TAKE A CUE FROM THESE GUYS

  32. ERROR: by JessLeah · · Score: 5, Funny

    lp0: printer no longer on fire

  33. Seriously.. by mindstrm · · Score: 2

    Was there really a 50% increase in major pipes today? And perhaps yesterday? I thought something was funny... couldn't play quake for 2 days cause of an extra 100ms that came from nowhere.

  34. Firewire by BSOD+from+above · · Score: 1

    ...is plug and play too.

    I hear plasmas are a great data transport medium, I bet all those ones and zeros are now very far away.

    --
    Karma: Censored (mostly affected by decency laws)
    1. Re:Firewire by JessLeah · · Score: 1

      FireWire(TM) is a registered trademark of Apple Computer. Expect a call from their lawyers within the next 5 milliseconds. (Expect the case to settle out of court within the next 5 years.) ;)

    2. Re:Firewire by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lawyers: The world's fastest stop sign.

  35. Woah! by nothing+safe · · Score: 1

    Now thats what I call a Firewall!

  36. Re:I bet... mods on crack. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After the last several posts using my account have been getting -1's all to hell, this is my theory. No, I am not a troll.

  37. Does anything make it on slashdot thesedays? by Joey7F · · Score: 3, Funny

    Whoopdee doo! If I knew I could get this kinda publicity I would set fire to all kinds of crazy things...

    --Joey

  38. Overclockers beware... by BSOD+from+above · · Score: 2, Funny

    silicon eruption from a molten 486dx can ignite cat-5, unplug from server farm prior to moving clock jumper.

    --
    Karma: Censored (mostly affected by decency laws)
  39. Lesson learned? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    What a bunch of dumbfucks. They think "Halon" is a game for the X-Box.

  40. You know what-it's great /. posted this story! by krinsh · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Abolute, superclapping kudos to the guys that had a backup and were able to restore operations so quickly.

    Can you imagine how devastating it must have been when the ENTIRE NOC WAS WIPED OUT? Can you imagine how many unemployed people there would be right now if this ever happened to a company and there was no such plan? I hope none of you ever find out, for all your jokes and goofiness.

    NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL DISASTER RECOVERY.

    --
    I think with the interesting people, their lives can't possibly be wrapped up into a nice little package.
    1. Re:You know what-it's great /. posted this story! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Watching that NOC getting wiped out would have been great entertainment. Personally, I love it when people become unemployed. I like to wipe my ass with dollar bills just to see if they'll swallow their pride and take it, depite the fact that it covered in shit.

    2. Re:You know what-it's great /. posted this story! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Disaster recovery plans are for nutsacks. Good "disaster recovery" is making sure your shit doesn't catch on fire. If a fire started in MY server room the automatic shit would kick in and put that fucker out. Tapes are for paranoid assholes. That shit applied in the 80s but hardware and software is much reliable now.

    3. Re:You know what-it's great /. posted this story! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      I often wonder if my distaster recovery plan is good enough - and you know, test all you want but you never can know for sure until the real thing comes. What I do is keep your sister drugged and tied up in my closet, just in case your whore mom doesn't show up for my daily blow job. I gotta stick my dick into something, you know?

    4. Re:You know what-it's great /. posted this story! by greenrd · · Score: 2
      No hardware or software can protect against human error - or even (highly unlikely but possible) natural disasters.

      It's stupid to never make backups.

  41. We don't need no servers... by dethl · · Score: 0, Troll

    let the mother$(*&*& burn....burn mother&*&(*&....burn

    --
    "Some fight for law. Some fight for justice. What will you fight for? One day, you will see."
  42. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  43. Re: Deathtrap? by HillBilly · · Score: 3, Funny

    Computers have feelings too.

    I dont know about you, but I hug mine all the time.

    --
    "Go into the hall of mirrors and have a bloody hard look at yourself" - HG Nelson
  44. In denial by Cheese+Cracker · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's not that you can't read Slashdot and some other sites - I can do without that for a week or two (honestly, I swear!! :-)

    As true of most drug dependents, they deny their addiction. ;o)

  45. No prob, I can post again!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SKO Has gone from a Troll to a KarmaWhore. That is actually a move in the right direction. NOT!!!! Trying to build back up your karam I see slut. All that trolling takes its effect on you doesn't it.

  46. Huzzah! by Ridge · · Score: 5, Funny
    Big hurrah for the network engineers of the University, large applause for the network engineers of SURFnet for restoring the 10Gbps Point of Presence within 36 hours after the fire.


    I wish I could get these guys over to my house to restore my cable modem back the the glorious speeds I had about 5 years ago. Of course today if they mucked around 'restoring' my bandwidth, the FBI would show up with their guns and confiscate my my coffee pot and take a few donuts as some form of evidence. Oh well, back to my 'high-speed online' web surfing.
    1. Re:Huzzah! by /dev/trash · · Score: 1
      I wish I could get these guys over to my house to restore my cable modem back the the glorious speeds I had about 5 years ago. Of course today if they mucked around 'restoring' my bandwidth, the FBI would show up with their guns and confiscate my my coffee pot and take a few donuts as some form of evidence. Oh well, back to my 'high-speed online' web surfing.

      Oh the heady days of being an early adopter, when it was you and the guy across the street who were the only ones on unmetered cable internet. Hell I remember in college, 6 or so people in apartments got cable and split it between them paying just 2 dollars over a normal modem connection. This was in 1996. It was funny because 4 of the people were in apartments below the other 2, so they had cable out a window.

  47. Christ, if your going to name by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 1, Funny

    your university after a number, at least learn to spell it correctly.

    1. Re:Christ, if your going to name by jelle · · Score: 5, Informative

      Or before you post, learn geography. The map is of the region of Twente, the University is just north of Enschede in the East.

      --
      --- Hindsight is 20/20, but walking backwards is not the answer.
    2. Re:Christ, if your going to name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your sarcasm detector seems to be broken, mister.

    3. Re:Christ, if your going to name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      talking about spelling: it's "you're" not "your" ;-)

    4. Re:Christ, if your going to name by Ruliz+Galaxor · · Score: 1

      "...just north of Enschede in the East."
      Ummz... that's northeast right? :)

      sig(h)

    5. Re:Christ, if your going to name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was a joke my friend, just a joke.

    6. Re:Christ, if your going to name by jelle · · Score: 2

      Not only that. It's lauching at me!

      --
      --- Hindsight is 20/20, but walking backwards is not the answer.
  48. Except now it is called by baywulf · · Score: 2

    the University of Nineteen

  49. Re:REJECTED SUBMISSION--PLEASE READ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Slashdot will post a story on it once they've got the technical specs on those tasty wireless motion sensors.

  50. Re:MOD PARENT UP! (+5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    I agree with the main post but I disagree with yours.

  51. Re:REJECTED SUBMISSION--PLEASE READ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    sorry, but non-citizens just don't get to enjoy same rights as citizens.

    send 'em back home.

  52. Porn??!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I see all these comments about the students missing out on porn. What you guys fail to realize is that in the Netherlands you can go fuck a hot chick for roughly $25.

  53. The goodside? by JTMON · · Score: 0

    They will get to buy all new equipment hopefully.

  54. Why is this news? by kirn_malinus · · Score: 0, Troll

    Who cares?

    --
    All circuits busy.
    1. Re:Why is this news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Mod me down, fine, but I'm serious here people.

      This happens at my school probably monthly, a few people complain about their internet being down (the sections of our network that go down are probably larger than the University of Twente), and it gets fixed in a few hours. It doesn't even make student newspapers, why does this make Slashdot??

  55. lp: The printer is on fire! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    So, did anyone actually see the "lp: The printer is on fire!" message?

  56. DR Site by ToadSprocket · · Score: 1

    Every year or so our company brings in some consultants, who have never done our (IT Staff) job but somehow know how to do it better than us. One of the things they invariably tell us, it that we need a DR site. They always say something like "What if there is a major disaster such as an earthquake or a fire?" My answer was always, "If there is a disaster of that magnitude, the last place I am going to be is work." Whether I would have that luxury or not I hope I never have to find out, but I agree with you. What the hell are these guys thinking as everything is going up in flames? Not cool. On a side note, our datacenter almost went up when a huge disk array caught on fire. The pipes got flooded but luckily the sprinklers didn't go on and hose down all the servers. (No, we didn't have halon at that point.) You'd be more scared if I actually said the name of the company. Sad but true.

    --


    If this article confuses you, don't worry. It was posted yesterday in a much clearer fashion.
    1. Re:DR Site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ebay?

      etrade?

      oh no. goatse.cx!

  57. Lucky that you had a connection to lose by rynthetyn · · Score: 1

    The college I attend doesn't even have internet access except in the labs. They are finally putting in a wireless network, but it won't be until next year--after I will have graduated.

    --
    Eagles may soar, but weasles don't get sucked into jet engines...
  58. Sheer Brilliance... by deadhammer · · Score: 2, Funny

    First these people have to endure losing and replacing an entire NOC in a fire, and now their new webserver is linked to directly from the slashdot frontpage. Haven't those poor server admins suffered enough?

    --
    I'll be honest, we're throwing science against the wall to see what sticks. -Cave Johnson
  59. Dutch Telecom recovering from record effort by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Dutch leisure facilities were stretched to the breaking point recently, while Dutch Telecom workers recovered from their record-breaking, 2.7-hour effort. Beer and "herb" suppliers reported a massive surge in demand as hundreds of Telecom workers left en masse for breaks at 11:13 am Friday, hours after lifting a manhole cover and connecting a spare pair of wires at an out-of-office location.

    "It was hell out there" said DT assistant foreman Paul Verhoeven, "we would break for 20 minutes, and get right back into it for another 10. I barely had time for the forms, and then my assistant went down with a sore thumbnail."

  60. Debian elitism, not for long by Laven · · Score: 3, Interesting
    People are heartily sick of the ceaseless but apt-get is sooo cool repetition that goes on

    Not for long. The Fedora project aims to bring a Debian-like community of packages and apt-get to Red Hat Linux. We are early in specification stages at the moment, but developers (NOT USERS YET!) are welcome on our mailing lists.

    I personally feel that Fedora will be very influential for the Linux community in the future.
    Why? Please read my 1st Fedora draft proposal .

    Mailing Lists
    http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/fedor a-announce http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/fedor a-devel

    1. Re:Debian elitism, not for long by Stonehead · · Score: 3, Informative

      First, the Debian community is not an 'elite'. Instead, you are welcome to join. But my point is that Fedora seems waste of efforts to me. Anyone can help Debian, OpenPKG, the freebsd-ports team, the Fink team for MacOSX or even Gentoo with packaging already. That makes sense - users need it and will use it. Playing 'man in the middle' for these pays off, you will learn a lot, and you do help other distributions as well. I don't mean 'there's no point in another community' - there is, just start, and that the best may win. That's what open source works like. But RedHat is a commercial distribution, package management for RedHat seems not that fun to me. Compare it to starting a 'Fink 2' that will never be the default. You will depend on their mistakes, on their decisions. There is one 'man in the middle' too much. Even better, you try to help RedHat, but it's RedHat's choice to let you pay for updates using the RedHat Network. Would they like you?
      Still, let the best win. I hope to hear something from Fedora soon.

    2. Re:Debian elitism, not for long by Laven · · Score: 2

      I was kidding about the elitism, and I realize it is too early for most people to see the impact that Fedora will have. You will see in a few months.

    3. Re:Debian elitism, not for long by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      First, the Debian community is not an 'elite'

      you're right. they're not...they're mostly a bunch of 35 year old virgins still living at home so their parents can pay for the DSL. but they think they're elite, and that's just as bad. fuck you all.

  61. Some pictures... by Sprunkys · · Score: 3, Interesting

    of people hard at work to get my email back online! Thank you very much!

    Pictures

    [Insert own /.-effect-building-on-fire joke here]

    --
    "We live in our minds, and existance is the attempt to bring that life into physical reality" Ayn Rand
  62. Rumour: NOC mis-configured firewall by fluor2 · · Score: 3, Funny

    "I hear that the Twente NOC engineers tried to construct their own firewall."

    (Joke)

  63. Stupid fucking Slashdot editors by 0x0d0a · · Score: 5, Informative

    is getting slashdotted

    Yes. This is downright reprehensible.

    Did you editors not read the comment in the last story? They're running on an emergency setup, and *specifically* requested that their new network *not* be linked to by slashdot.

    See this comment on your own story.

    So they donate resources to Debian, their NOC burns down, they set up an emergency system *and* go to the trouble of politely requesting Slashdot *not* to link to it and the first thing you do is do exactly that, making the network unusable for the students that are already having to deal with the burning down of part of the university.

    Assholes.

    1. Re:Stupid fucking Slashdot editors by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 2, Informative

      You forget, They dont actually read the stories, they just post them. I doubt the submitter even read it, just relayed it from another source.

      --
      Pain lasts, kid. Its how you know you're alive. Sometimes I think this growing up thing is just pain management-TheMaxx
    2. Re:Stupid fucking Slashdot editors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Stupid, this is NO LONGER the emergency network. Seen the date on the message? This was on wednesday. Now the emergency network ist no longer in usage, so their is no need to avoid linking to them. Only Asshole here is you, because you are too dumb.

    3. Re:Stupid fucking Slashdot editors by Koos · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Did you editors not read the comment in the last story? They're running on an emergency setup, and *specifically* requested that their new network *not* be linked to by slashdot.
      Did you read this story, then ?

      The normal connections are back at the same speed as before the fire. And since UncleH is quite involved with the network around utwente he is perfectly able to tell whether the servers can take a slashdotting again.

  64. It wasn't an accident by fearlezz · · Score: 3, Informative

    Wednesday I joked the BSA lit the fire... Officials reported the fire may have actually been lighted. In 3 days, the university had 4 fires. 3 of them could be extinguised before any damage was done. A 26-year old man has been arrested in the case.

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    .sig: No such file or directory
    1. Re:It wasn't an accident by 3247 · · Score: 2
      Hm, there are a lot of people that could have wanted the Twente NOC to be destroyed:
      • A student who wants to avoid exams.
      • BSA
      • RIAA
      • Microsoft
      • SuSE
      • RedHat
      • ...

      Pick one!
      --
      Claus
  65. suspected arsonist arrested by dvdweyer · · Score: 2, Informative

    According to Twentsche Courant a suspected arsonist was arrested.

    1. Re:suspected arsonist arrested by Pepijn · · Score: 1

      According to this article (in dutch), the fire was started by someone from the university. The 26 year old man has plead guity last sunday.

      He had been caught on the friday before, lighting fire in another university building.

  66. Router failure by markov_chain · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I saw the following on my favorite MUD, Tsunami, thanks to Sitavan:


    There was a fire today that destroyed the datacenter at the University of Twente in Enschede, The Netherlands, housing a SurfNet (the academic and research network over there) POP amongst many other things.

    A friend sent me these syslog entries which I found interesting... The first one is from a router in Enschede that was destroyed, and the second one is from the router in Amsterdam that it connected to:



    0.ar5.enschede1.surf.net 3613: Nov 20 7:20:50.927 UTC:
    %ENV_MON-2-TEMP: Hotpoint temp sensor(slot 18) temperature has
    reached WARNING level at 61(C)

    lo0.cr2.amsterdam2.surf.net 1146: Nov 20 07:20:56.458 UTC:
    %CLNS-5-ADJCHANGE: ISIS: Adjacency to ar5.enschede1 (POS2/0) Down,
    interface deleted(non-iih)



    --
    Tsunami -- You can't bring a good wave down!
  67. Can't reach their webserver though by meldir · · Score: 1

    My provider seems to have old DNS data cached, the link doesn't work. Try their IP-address instead.

  68. In other news by roguerez · · Score: 1

    Internet traffic exchanges worldwide have seen the amount of traffic roughly double in the last couple of hours.

    It is suspected that the increase in traffic is due to mp3/divx/pr0n/warez downloading. But where that traffic comes from is still unknown.

  69. All Praise to Allah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This issue is one of the most pressing issues of our time. The fire in the UoT NOC devastated my life and I am glad to see this ongoing coverage on Slashdot. When I awoke the other day to find out that the NOC at UoT had burned, I called in sick and spent the day frantically calling friends and family. True, I live in Las Vegas and do not use the NOC at all, but my heart really went out to these people. I urge everyone to open their checkbooks and donate funds to the NOC. I am lighting a candle as I type. Words cannot express my grief over the NOC fire at the Univerity of Twente.

  70. Re:Switzerland... by num42 · · Score: 1

    Internet traffic exchanges worldwide have seen the amount of traffic roughly double in the last couple of hours.

    I don't think so, i did not see such an increse on our network, and AM-SIX's hugegraph confirms that: -> http://www.ams-ix.net/hugegraph.html

    Zap

    --
    "morning is a state of mind ;)"
  71. The establishment also sends wishes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We would like to extend our condolences to the people involved. We have donated over 500,000 guilders to this cause and I hope that other readers fall in and help out with this.. this is definitely the greatest tragedy of the universe, i am now committing ceremonial hari kari over this. regards.

  72. Re:Good - pictures of the demise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Pictures of the sudden demise of our network can be found here: ( hosting from an other uni wasn't such a bad idea after all :-) ) http://tiefighter.et.tudelft.nl/~maurits/fotosite/ index.html see ya Maurits

  73. Last Post! by alpg · · Score: 1

    When you know absolutely nothing about the topic, make your forecast by
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  74. Last Post! by alpg · · Score: 1

    A cloud does not know why it moves in just such a direction and at such
    a speed, if feels an impulsion... this is the place to go now. But the
    sky knows the reasons and the patterns behind all clouds, and you will
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