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Spammer Gets Spam Mailed

ssblood noted a story about a spammer getting what he deserves as well as a related story from the Register. Essentially the virtual spammer is capable of sending a billion emails a day, and is getting sacks of physical junk mail from irritable folks. Apparently part of this plot was hatched on familiar turf too.

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  1. Dupe: A great reminder by joshua42 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah, keep postning this story every and then as a reminder so the junk mail pressure on this guy does not ease off...

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  2. Spammers?John Poindexter is getting a taste too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    John Poindexter is also getting a taste of his own medicine. Check out this article. They've got his address and everything.

  3. I was hoping by www.sorehands.com · · Score: 5, Funny
    I was hoping that this was a report of Ralsky being hospitalized for paper-cuts because of all that spam.


    If anyone is sued by Ralksky, get discovery! Get his spams and make them public so that 1000s of people can file lawsuits against him for spamming.

  4. Re:Hmm this really isnt new by Saint+Nobody · · Score: 5, Insightful

    never reply to your spam mail. sometimes the address will be forged, and you'll be harassing some poor shmuck. sometimes you're just replying to a bot that notes you as a valid email address. plus, if you do wind up on a spammer's bad side, you're probably more likely to be the victim of a forged address.

    by replying to spam, you're betting that your spammer is ethical. do you really want to make that bet?

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  5. Now for Phase 2 by NeuroManson · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sign him up with every mailing list for porn magazines, and several Christoid magazines. Also pay a few bucks for an order of Jack Chick tracts (www.chick.com).

    Better still, spoof his IP, and create accounts on known Al Qaeda supporter websites, so the next knock he gets on the door will be from the FBI. Imagine his glee when all his funds are snatched up as money tagged to support terrorism.

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  6. Anti-Spam Activist Threatened by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    Dear SlashDolts,

    Why re-post old news when there's new news available? Interesting new news, as a matter-of-fact. See:

    http://www.freep.com/money/tech/mwend13_20021213.h tm

    Suff That Matters, eh? Right.

  7. Clearly everyone has missed the best story... by Munra · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Clearly the best story on that page is the genius of the person using Fedex's parcel tracking to find out where Santa lives :)

    Tracking a package to Santa

    South Haven photojournalist David McCreery uses Federal Express a lot and is fascinated with the tracking feature on the FedEx Web site (www.federalexpress.com) that lets you watch as your package makes its way to its destination.

    "I send FedEx packages every few weeks," he says. "Once, I sent a package to Bowling Green and watched it leave Michigan via Flint for Memphis, come back to Flint and then drive to Ohio."

    So, this being the holiday season, he decided to FedEx a letter to Santa, wondering: "How far would a package to the North Pole go? How would it get there? Where would it end up? Who would sign for it?"

    You can follow the progress of his letter on his personal Web site (www.davidm.net), where he posted his letter and the FedEx tracking number.

    Read the results, linked from here, over here.

  8. /. editors don't read the papers they cite by ravenwolff · · Score: 5, Funny

    Very interesting and sure to be controversial study that suggests most /. editors don't read the papers they cite. This means that if one paper misreads a work the misreading propagates. It's a very interesting study and has big implications for geeks, in my opinion. /. has a good overview of the work. Given that most attention to work has been in sloppy work on the experimental side (poor methadology or outright fraud) this suggests a whole other problem. A lot of the ultimate problem is that many in /. are concerned more about publishing than in solving the issues they investigate. Ideally the point both in science and in academics in general is to understand the ideas. Yet those of you who've looked up footnotes realize that actually engaging the ideas of other editors typically falls by the wayside. Often footnotes are there simply because references are needed. Engaging others works is secondary. I've always thought that the hard geeks were more immune to that effect than the humanities. I guess not."

  9. Re:Dupe alert! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There's quite a lot of duplicate news stories here, most often citing the same URL as the previous story. I'm wondering, how much work would it be to adapt the "enter new story" script the editors use to do a search for similar urls or stories in say the past month? Given the article posting rate and the amount of readers /. has, the server won't even notice, and with a search engine already in place I doubt it would be hard to implement. So what's keeping them from adopting a simple technological measure to improve the quality of their site?

    Lourens

  10. bored this sunday morning by deus_X_machina · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you haven't already heard...

    Taken from http://www.spamhaus.org

    found here

    Alan M. Ralsky
    Telephone: 248-926-0688
    Current email address: amr777@comcast.net

    Address : 6747 MINNOW POND DR Property ID: 18-31-177-002
    City/State/Zip: W BLOOMFIELD MI 48322-2663

    Owner Name : RALSKY ALAN M Latitude : 42.5460
    Taxpayer Addr.: 6747 MINNOW POND DR Longitude : 83.4284
    City/State/zip: W BLOOMFIELD MI 48322-2663 Census Tract: 1566.00
    Block Group : 9
    City/Vill/Twn : WEST BLOOMFIELD
    Subdivision : BLOOMFIELD PINES SUB NO 2
    School Dist : WALLED LAKE CONSOLIDATED SCHOOLS
    Prop Category : RESIDENTIAL
    Land Use : SI SUBURBAN IMPROVED, TOWNSHIP ONLY

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  11. Punishment for dupes by hubbabubba · · Score: 5, Funny

    Anybody got Taco's snail mail address? ;-)

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  12. What about his postperson? by cmeans · · Score: 5, Funny
    You've got to believe that this all this physical "junk mail" is causing problems for his local post person (if not the post office itself) too...maybe they'll go "Postal" on his ass just to lessen their work-load.

  13. There oughta be a weekly profile... by mtec · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let's make 'dup think' work for good, not evil...

    Spammer of the week.

    Ya' know - a puff piece profile. Who they are, what they do in their spare time, what their favorite color is, name address and phone number, shirt size...

    I'm serious. Why not?

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  14. Re:Dupe story? by skroz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah, but Taco was out with his new bride when the first one was posted. Do you really expect him to be reading his site ON HIS WEDDING NIGHT? I can see it now... carrying her across the threshhold of the honeymoon suite, gruffly depositing her on the bed, whipping out his Zaurus (no, not THAT "Zaurus..." the one with the, er, stylus. I mean, batteries... no, that's certainly no good. Digital screen, yes. The zaurus with the digital screen...) and searching feverishly around the hotel room for a nearby WAP so he can read his website.

    CowboyNeal, maybe, but Taco?

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  15. Ralsky gets even! by Skapare · · Score: 5, Funny

    Alan Ralsky, who may just be the world's biggest sender of internet spam, has been getting a taste of his own medicine. But now the tide may be turning, he reports.

    "They've signed me up for every advertising campaign and mailing list there is." he says. "But, I will get even. I know who they are and I know what to do." he adds with a mischievous grin.

    Reports have been coming in from all around the internet about the duplicates. First there was just one or two. Then there was ten. Yesterday there were a few hundred. And today, over twenty five thousand duplicate stories have been posted on the famous geek forum called Slashdot, where the campaign against Ralsky was hatched.

    "It's not me." says Ralsky, interviewed outside his home, which is surrounded by hundreds of postal bags because no more room remains inside. He adds "I don't do story submissions. Hell, I didn't even know the place existed until a few weeks ago."

    Another truck arrives, and 3 postmen deliver 25 more bags of mail. Over half the yard is covered in bags now.

    "I know who these guys are now. My lawyers were looking into this, but I've never heard back from them, so I just had to take matters into my own hands." says Ralsky as small snicker shows up in his grin. "It's all about getting even, and I know what these people hate the most; it's duplicate stories." he goes on saying "In Soviet Russia we didn't have people doing things like this; mail bags would deliver you away."

    Ask when all this might come to an end, Ralsky replied "You just wait until I try out all the mod points I managed to get."

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  16. Re:Hmm this really isnt new by MonkeyBoy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I hate to break the news to you, but of all the spams I've received over the past 2 days, not a single one was SENT from the account that is listed on the reply-to address. In fact, if you read the contents of the spam, you'll usually see them point replies to a completely different address, and "remove" requests to another (usually bogus) address. In not a single case does the subnet of the sender, nor the mail server used to relay the message, match any email address contained within the spam.

    Now, that's not to say that there are idiots out there who are ignorant enough to send spam with their own return address via their ISP's mail server, nor do I mean to say that there aren't enough spam-friendly ISPs out there loaning bandwidth to spammers running their own server farms (like the scumbag weasel $!@#$@# who's currently getting ever-increasing amounts of old-fashioned junkmail). I'm just saying that it's unlikely your actions will cause the effect you intend, as spammers who operate in the manner you need are in the minority.

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  17. Re:Any Updates by zaren · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes, there was an update:

    Free Press article:

    MIKE WENDLAND: Behind the scenes, spam's even uglier

    December 13, 2002

    Bloomfield Township spam artist Alan Ralsky is in the midst of yet another controversy, this time involving an anti-spam activist who says someone left him threatening telephone messages after he took photos of Ralsky's brand-new $740,000 house.

    The activist, Rich Clark of Warren, said he's reported the threats -- which were left on his answering machine -- to police. He said it all started last weekend when he drove to Ralsky's neighborhood to snap some photos for an anti-spam Web site.

    Clark said as he was taking his pictures from the street, someone left Ralsky's house, got into a black car and tried to block him from driving away. Clark said he maneuvered around the vehicle, but was followed.

    The next day, the phone calls started.

    "You don't know who the hell you were . . . with yesterday," began the first call. "You got the wrong guy. You don't even have the guy you think you do."

    The caller then gave details about Clark's home, his driver's license number, even the bank his car was financed through.

    A second call said: "I'm going to make your life so miserable you should watch every corner you go into, bro, every second."

    The next day, there was still another message. "Just waiting for you," it said. "You haven't heard the beginning of what's going to happen to you yet. Keep your eyes open."

    Clark provided me copies of the recordings. Are they from Ralsky? It was hard for me to tell. I asked Ralsky, and he said he knows nothing about it.

    "Come on," said Ralsky, "That's ludicrous. I'm not that stupid."

    He said he had no idea who was in the black car that Clark said left his driveway. "I don't have a black car," he said. "And I'm 57. I'm not about to go chasing anyone. But what was that guy doing taking pictures of my house for, anyway?"

    Clark says he took the pictures to post on an anti-spam Web site (he hasn't decided which one). He now plans to add the audio files from the phone messages.

    Warren police said Clark's report is on file, but there is no investigation in progress.

    Ralsky, who is one of the biggest senders of unsolicited bulk e-mail in the world, says anti-spammers have been harassing him for the past year. Lately, said Ralsky, anti-spammers started flooding him by snail mail with coupons, brochures and ads. "I just toss them right into the wastebasket," he said. "It doesn't bother me."

    You might also want to check the following Usenet thread in news.admin.net-abuse.email:

    Google News

    which includes links to mp3s of the threats left on his answering machine.

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  18. Re:Feedback? by mcgroarty · · Score: 5, Funny
    Mr. Ralsky's feedback...
    Ralsky, who is one of the biggest senders of unsolicited bulk e-mail in the world, says anti-spammers have been harassing him for the past year. Lately, said Ralsky, anti-spammers started flooding him by snail mail with coupons, brochures and ads. "I just toss them right into the wastebasket," he said. "It doesn't bother me."
    That, from an article in Detroit Free Press.

    The immature thing to do here would be to take that as a challenge, or a suggestion that you're just not trying hard enough , or that you're not yet doing your part. But thankfully, we're all adults here, right?

  19. Strange co-inkydink by mtec · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was looking up some information about Sir Walter Raleigh and I came across a new word!

    'Ralsky'

    SYLLABICATION:
    ralsky

    PRONUNCIATION:
    ral - skee

    ADJECTIVE: Inflected forms: ralskeer , ralskyest 1. Slow to learn or understand; obtuse. 2. Tending to make poor decisions or careless mistakes. 3. Marked by a lack of intelligence or care; foolish or careless: a stupid mistake. 4. Dazed, stunned, or stupefied. 5. Pointless; worthless: a stupid job. 6. Boasting to a newspaper writer ill- advisedly


    ex.He ralskyed about his windfall and then the IRS confiscated his belongings Huh! Go figger...

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  20. Re:Dupe story? by TrumpetPower! · · Score: 5, Funny

    The zaurus with the digital screen...

    Whoah...Taco's Zarus has a digital screen? That's like, waaaay too much information.

    Cheers,

    b&

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  21. How many lifetimes has he wasted? by sbaker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was always impressed by Steve Job's comment to the guy who was writing the Mac bootstrap code. The guy was complaining that it wasn't worth optimising the bootstrap loader any more because it was fast enough already. I don't Steve's exact words - but it was something like: We will sell 100 million of these machines - if each of those people boots their machine once a day for five years - then that's 15 billion reboots. If you can save just one second from the reboot time of the Mac then that's 480 YEARS saved.

    So shaving one second of the boot time is like saving the lives of 50 people. What
    could be a more noble activity than saving human lives like this.

    So - applying that math to this spammer: If he sends out ten million spams a day and it takes 1 second to delete each one - and if this guy does that every day for five years - then that's morally equivelent to murdering 50 people.

    Just because the damage he does to each individual is small, the cumulative damage is huge.

    There is another story (probably apochryphal) about the guy writing the banking system software who changed the code to take the roundoff error (less than a half cent) from every interest calculation and direct it into his personal account. The story goes that he made tens of thousands of dollars a week. This story probably isn't true - but should such a person be considered any less a criminal because the money he stole was spread so thinly? Obviously not - he stole those thousands of dollars and that's that.

    This spammer deprived the people of the world of 50 human lives - he should be considered a mass murderer and treated accordingly.

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  22. Re:Dupe story? That's ok! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    It's a great chance to rake in the karma! Just go back to the original post and copy some of the +5 posts.

    On a more serious note, however, I have just right now been struck by a great (original) idea, and have decided to write this, a spontaneous and completely original, post:


    I am writing this article to request something for a terminaly ill boy.

    Alan M Ralsky is a seven year old boy who has terminal cancer. His ambition before he dies is to be included in the Guinness Book of Records as having the largest collection of post cards.

    My request is that EVERYONE who reads this posting send at least one post card to him at:

    Alan M Ralsky
    6747 Minnow Pond Dr
    West Bloowfield Township, MI 48322-2663

    Please pass this information on to as many people as possible. Let's make a child's dream come true before its too late.

    Best wishes.

    A hopeful person.