Spammer Gets Spam Mailed
ssblood noted a story about a spammer getting what he deserves as well as a related story
from the Register.
Essentially the virtual spammer is capable of sending a billion emails a day, and is getting sacks of physical junk mail from irritable folks. Apparently part of this plot was hatched on familiar turf too.
..and first post?
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/12/06/155422 7&mode=nested&tid=133
Or should I go back to bed on a Sunday morning...
karma...
/. cheapened use of the word.
Ain't it a bitch?
And I don't mean
Ok....? Getting back a little of what you dish out justifies calling people "Out of their minds". I can see if they were firebombing his house, but sending him junk mail? ;) Come on Alan, what're you thinking.
This has to be the best story ever. The funniest thing I've heard today at LEAST!
...with old news, wonder why I even bother to point this out...
Original Here
"Almost 300 anti-Ralsky posts were made on the Slashdot.org Web site..."
Sure that sounds impressive, but how many of those were dupes?
Yeah, keep postning this story every and then as a reminder so the junk mail pressure on this guy does not ease off...
- El riesgo siempre vive - Private J. Vasquez
John Poindexter is also getting a taste of his own medicine. Check out this article. They've got his address and everything.
Let us alll forgive CmdrTaco on this cheerfull Sunday morning, since it's obvious thatCMDR TACO NEEDS TO DRINK HIS #$%#$% COFFEE before posting stories!
LongTail SSH Brute Force analysis tool is here!
Sending mail back to spammers really isnt new, I dont see why it hasnt become mainstreme. I get about 10-20 spam e-mails every day and I just reply to them. If you consider it, lets say a spammer sends out 1000 e-mail messages from his hotmail account. Now lets assume each one of these is 3k, if everyone replies to his e-mails and sends his own message back hotmail will shut down the account! There is no need to sign them up for anything special, just reply to their e-mails! So what if some of the are automated. I was getting spam from a company over a period of a year and kept replying to it every day. It turned out that there was a bot doining the mailing so my messages were never deleted, they just sat there. After 9 months I got an e-mail from them telling me to stop imediatly because their web-account had run out of space and their server suspended their account. Other people must have been doing this as well, or maybe my e-mails just built up over time. My point is this, always reply to ur spam mail, 3 or 4 times.
If anyone is sued by Ralksky, get discovery! Get his spams and make them public so that 1000s of people can file lawsuits against him for spamming.
Fight Spammers!
I imagine the poor bastard who's email you posted is just some guy that you have some gripes with. Most readers will, I believe, ignore you, but if only 20% get in the trap, this guy's e-mail is toast.
If he's really a spammer, post some proof of it, non-anonymously.
Sigged!
Sign him up with every mailing list for porn magazines, and several Christoid magazines. Also pay a few bucks for an order of Jack Chick tracts (www.chick.com).
Better still, spoof his IP, and create accounts on known Al Qaeda supporter websites, so the next knock he gets on the door will be from the FBI. Imagine his glee when all his funds are snatched up as money tagged to support terrorism.
Just because you can mod me down, doesn't mean you're right. Shoes for industry!
Why re-post old news when there's new news available? Interesting new news, as a matter-of-fact. See:
http://www.freep.com/money/tech/mwend13_20021213.h tm
Suff That Matters, eh? Right.
Tracking a package to Santa
South Haven photojournalist David McCreery uses Federal Express a lot and is fascinated with the tracking feature on the FedEx Web site (www.federalexpress.com) that lets you watch as your package makes its way to its destination.
"I send FedEx packages every few weeks," he says. "Once, I sent a package to Bowling Green and watched it leave Michigan via Flint for Memphis, come back to Flint and then drive to Ohio."
So, this being the holiday season, he decided to FedEx a letter to Santa, wondering: "How far would a package to the North Pole go? How would it get there? Where would it end up? Who would sign for it?"
You can follow the progress of his letter on his personal Web site (www.davidm.net), where he posted his letter and the FedEx tracking number.
Read the results, linked from here, over here.
Ya, there were part 1 and part 2 of this story, in part 1 we all organized the mail bombing, in part 2 he calls his lawyer on us, this is a dupe of part 2.
Very interesting and sure to be controversial study that suggests most /. editors don't read the papers they cite. This means that if one paper misreads a work the misreading propagates. It's a very interesting study and has big implications for geeks, in my opinion. /. has a good overview of the work. Given that most attention to work has been in sloppy work on the experimental side (poor methadology or outright fraud) this suggests a whole other problem. A lot of the ultimate problem is that many in /. are concerned more about publishing than in solving the issues they investigate. Ideally the point both in science and in academics in general is to understand the ideas. Yet those of you who've looked up footnotes realize that actually engaging the ideas of other editors typically falls by the wayside. Often footnotes are there simply because references are needed. Engaging others works is secondary. I've always thought that the hard geeks were more immune to that effect than the humanities. I guess not."
Considering that /. listed the lawyer's address as well, what is happening to the lawyer and the law firm?
www.eFax.com are spammers
I wouldnt mind, but not only has it been covered TWICE by /. already, it was BECAUSE it was on /. that the article referenced was even written!!!!
ARRGGHHH!!!!
If you haven't already heard...
Taken from http://www.spamhaus.org
found here
Alan M. Ralsky
Telephone: 248-926-0688
Current email address: amr777@comcast.net
Address : 6747 MINNOW POND DR Property ID: 18-31-177-002
City/State/Zip: W BLOOMFIELD MI 48322-2663
Owner Name : RALSKY ALAN M Latitude : 42.5460
Taxpayer Addr.: 6747 MINNOW POND DR Longitude : 83.4284
City/State/zip: W BLOOMFIELD MI 48322-2663 Census Tract: 1566.00
Block Group : 9
City/Vill/Twn : WEST BLOOMFIELD
Subdivision : BLOOMFIELD PINES SUB NO 2
School Dist : WALLED LAKE CONSOLIDATED SCHOOLS
Prop Category : RESIDENTIAL
Land Use : SI SUBURBAN IMPROVED, TOWNSHIP ONLY
"In a Democracy, people get the kind of government they deserve." -Winston Churchill
Please forward questions, complaints, and replies to:
ALAN M RALSKY
6747 MINNOW POND DR,
WEST BLOOMFIELD, MI 48322
Seller: BING CONSTRUCTION CO
Property Address: 6747 MINNOW POND DR, WEST BLOOMFIELD, MI 48322
Sale Date: 8/28/2002
Recorded Date: 9/12/2002
Sale Price: $ 740,000
Anybody got Taco's snail mail address? ;-)
Fried ice cream is a reality. - George Clinton
Give a hand, not a hand-out.
Let's make 'dup think' work for good, not evil...
Spammer of the week.
Ya' know - a puff piece profile. Who they are, what they do in their spare time, what their favorite color is, name address and phone number, shirt size...
I'm serious. Why not?
Cake or Death? Cake Please!
This is much, much better. You don't have to give away your e-mail address, and you can be rest assured that they'll be getting email forever. Just make one post with their email address anywhere on Usenet. They'll be on spam lists for years, possibly even getting their own spam. Just one little post will set it off. A few spammers will pick it up, use it, sell it, re-sell it, etc.
This is great, but he will eventually straighten this out, hire someone to sort out his real mail, or learn to deal. This will not deter him. To make this guy REALLY miserable, we should send the junkmail to his neighbors addresses with his name on it! This would be especially effective using the porn junkmail!!!
Call it...
a Lifestyles of the Kitsch and Shameless...?
Cake or Death? Cake Please!
Alan Ralsky, who may just be the world's biggest sender of internet spam, has been getting a taste of his own medicine. But now the tide may be turning, he reports.
"They've signed me up for every advertising campaign and mailing list there is." he says. "But, I will get even. I know who they are and I know what to do." he adds with a mischievous grin.
Reports have been coming in from all around the internet about the duplicates. First there was just one or two. Then there was ten. Yesterday there were a few hundred. And today, over twenty five thousand duplicate stories have been posted on the famous geek forum called Slashdot, where the campaign against Ralsky was hatched.
"It's not me." says Ralsky, interviewed outside his home, which is surrounded by hundreds of postal bags because no more room remains inside. He adds "I don't do story submissions. Hell, I didn't even know the place existed until a few weeks ago."
Another truck arrives, and 3 postmen deliver 25 more bags of mail. Over half the yard is covered in bags now.
"I know who these guys are now. My lawyers were looking into this, but I've never heard back from them, so I just had to take matters into my own hands." says Ralsky as small snicker shows up in his grin. "It's all about getting even, and I know what these people hate the most; it's duplicate stories." he goes on saying "In Soviet Russia we didn't have people doing things like this; mail bags would deliver you away."
Ask when all this might come to an end, Ralsky replied "You just wait until I try out all the mod points I managed to get."
now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
Damn, and I thought this was going to be a story about another dipsh!t getting his due.
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
The repost makes me wonder: are there any legitimate updates to the story? Is he still recieving tons of s-mail? How's his legal action going? Has he had an insight, and sworn off spamming? Anyone? Anyone?
That's not a taste of his own medicine.
A taste of his medicine would mean everyone keeping track of where he is going and what he is doing. e.g. everyday someone sticks gps modules on his cars and puts the info on a website. Someone pointing a webcam at his front door (not his bedroom window).
People calling up his home phone number and pestering him or his wife is something totally different. That's like telemarketing.
BTW the article sucks too. No imagination. Sure you don't like that person or what he's doing, but how does asking members of the public to call his home phone help?
The article also talks about California seceding. Where does CA get water from? They are going to have to build a lot more waterworks from north to south. Not sure if north CA has enough water to cover the south's needs as well as its own. I'm sure some states would be fine with CA leaving, since they'll have a better chance of getting their fair share of water. Mexico might even start seeing the Colorado _river_ again.
The US-ca could start charging California a lot more for electricity from the Hoover Dam too.
Then the US-ca could indulge in a bit of schadenfreude: watching everyone in California battle each other over the power and water issue: the usual "no nuclear power", "no fossil fuel plants", "not in my backyard" etc.
Silly article.
Funny... I thought Groundhog day wasn't until February...
I'll have something intelligent to add one of these days...
Mate, I'd just suggest gettign a new email addy and letting him know it's restraining-order time if he keeps it up.......
Conflict resolution..It's anifty thing.
Excuse the Unicode crap in my posts. That's an apostrophe, and slashdot is busted.
Well, you gotta expect the guy has more'n one face... He's a spammer!
Cake or Death? Cake Please!
Now that everyone knows who he is I get the feeling some crazed anti-spammer is going to go kill the poor guy. I mean, some of us really do hate spam that much, don't we?
void women (int money, time_t time);
I guess you're all interested in this, ok, more or less :) Yes, the Jaguar actually followed the spotter and he got threaten on his voice mailbox. Mirrors here.
He's made a few modifications to reflect the business that he runs from his house. (Hope he's got a business licence for that.) Enjoy!
One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
I was looking up some information about Sir Walter Raleigh and I came across a new word!
'Ralsky'
SYLLABICATION:
ralsky
PRONUNCIATION:
ral - skee
ADJECTIVE: Inflected forms: ralskeer , ralskyest 1. Slow to learn or understand; obtuse. 2. Tending to make poor decisions or careless mistakes. 3. Marked by a lack of intelligence or care; foolish or careless: a stupid mistake. 4. Dazed, stunned, or stupefied. 5. Pointless; worthless: a stupid job. 6. Boasting to a newspaper writer ill- advisedly
ex.He ralskyed about his windfall and then the IRS confiscated his belongings Huh! Go figger...
Cake or Death? Cake Please!
We don't like direct marketers, but we should have the least amount of venom for the The Direct Marketers Association. They maintain legitimate opt-out lists for email, telephone, and junk mail. Not every "marketer" uese 'em, but those that do use the lists only use them to opt customers out.
If it reduces just some of the harassment, isn't it worth it?
Less junk mail
Fewer telemarketers
Less spam
And BTW: don't be lazy and use the $5 Internet option. Print out the page and pop it in the post for less than 10% of the cost.
Support a few technologists in Washington.
In Soviet Russia - people queue up for spam...
;)
And that's just to _look_ at the one and only can (it's not for sale after all).
as a verb...
Stupid dictionary.
Cake or Death? Cake Please!
Mac
That works.
Cake or Death? Cake Please!
...and want to have the satisfaction of signing Mr. Ralsky up for a few more mass mailers, here's his address which was posted the last time this story appeared.
Buyer: ALAN M RALSKY
Buyer Mailing Address:
6747 MINNOW POND DR, WEST BLOOMFIELD, MI 48322
Seller: BING CONSTRUCTION CO
Property Address: 6747 MINNOW POND DR, WEST
BLOOMFIELD, MI 48322
Sale Date: 8/28/2002
Recorded Date: 9/12/2002
Sale Price: $ 740,000 (Full Amount)
I was always impressed by Steve Job's comment to the guy who was writing the Mac bootstrap code. The guy was complaining that it wasn't worth optimising the bootstrap loader any more because it was fast enough already. I don't Steve's exact words - but it was something like: We will sell 100 million of these machines - if each of those people boots their machine once a day for five years - then that's 15 billion reboots. If you can save just one second from the reboot time of the Mac then that's 480 YEARS saved.
So shaving one second of the boot time is like saving the lives of 50 people. What
could be a more noble activity than saving human lives like this.
So - applying that math to this spammer: If he sends out ten million spams a day and it takes 1 second to delete each one - and if this guy does that every day for five years - then that's morally equivelent to murdering 50 people.
Just because the damage he does to each individual is small, the cumulative damage is huge.
There is another story (probably apochryphal) about the guy writing the banking system software who changed the code to take the roundoff error (less than a half cent) from every interest calculation and direct it into his personal account. The story goes that he made tens of thousands of dollars a week. This story probably isn't true - but should such a person be considered any less a criminal because the money he stole was spread so thinly? Obviously not - he stole those thousands of dollars and that's that.
This spammer deprived the people of the world of 50 human lives - he should be considered a mass murderer and treated accordingly.
www.sjbaker.org
Hehe - I just ran a e-mail validation on that mail-adress:
[Contacting mx00.comcast.net [24.153.64.1]...]
[Connected]
220-mtain01 -- Server ESMTP ("Comcast Messaging System")
220 Unsolicted bulk mail prohibited; spammers will be prosecuted
HELO Network-Tools.com
250 mtain01 OK, [66.46.181.116].
VRFY amr777
252 2.5.0 Possible remote address not checked.
RSET
250 2.5.0 Ok.
EXPN amr777
550 5.7.2 EXPN command has been disabled.
RSET
250 2.5.0 Ok.
MAIL FROM:
250 2.5.0 Address Ok.
RCPT TO:
250 2.1.5 amr777@comcast.net OK.
QUIT
221 2.3.0 Bye received. Goodbye.
[Connection closed]
"If you keep an open mind people will throw a lot of garbage in it."
(pity there isn't a more environmental solution available)
What if we erected bilboards on the sidewalks (or some other area off his property) that only face his house, with ads for things that get spammed to us such as debt reduction, penis enlargement, baldness cures, etc. They have to be obnoxious ads in all caps with misleading titles. Maybe we can put some Retina-Scorcher(tm) floodlights on them too so he'll see them bright as day even though his eyelids.
There are only 10 kinds of people in this world... those who understand binary and those who don't
It says that even non-members can 'take advantage' of the opt-out email list.
So... any bets on how many of those non-members actually swipe the emails?
They say they only provide the companies with the lists so that they can remove them, but how exactly do they go about *checking*?
In particular note the bit about the fish and seaweed being mailed: "postal supervisor warned our mailing specialist that he could be fined for mail service abuse, even as a recipient, should this happen again."
I think just signing the guy up for mailing lists is missing out on the truly beautiful possibilities offered by the USPS.
I hope you're not pretending to be evil while secretly being good. That would be dishonest.
On a more serious note, however, I have just right now been struck by a great (original) idea, and have decided to write this, a spontaneous and completely original, post:
To add and update a bit to this:
... and takes you back home (... or to the "big house" ... remember, as soon as you stop moving on the public way, you are "loitering" and thus subject to arrest).
... and official language once again doesn't match unofficial intent.
(I modeled this prediction on the experience of a petroleum engineer and his wife (a teacher) when they moved to New Zealand for a year.
NZ required them to have $50K on hand just to get into the country.)
... it's going to arrive anyway, so you'll find out eventually.
Some guy came up with a plan to fill bags (100ft wide and 800ft long) with Northern CA river water (in excess) and tow them to Southern CA (where it's needed). Recently, this plan was shelved since one of the first steps (California-wise, at least) involved environmental-impact studies for the rivers the bags would be filled from. The studies would have cost $1 million per river.
I think this sums up CA's problem; progress is definitely dampened by such reluctance to move into the unknown, and the level of assurance desired is simply too expensive. That, and the fact that you shouldn't build cities in the desert or even an arid land.
To expand upon this article with personal opinion:
I think the USA has more than lost national identity and will Balkanize within a generation. But like the Congress thinking that declarations of war are "anarchronistic" (ref. Rep. Ron Paul), actual secession will also be an anachronism. The secession will be accomplished by other means. A mixture of official and unofficial methods will be used to make sure that Californians stay in, and non-Californians stay out. We kind of have that kind of thing now, scattered over America as local policy; if you are a Black man, try wandering around your town's wealthier sections and see how long it takes before a cop stops you
To dimly predict, it might occur that the CA legislature votes for an "assurance bond" for people moving into CA. To live there, you must present $10000 in cash or a bond good for same to local authorities. Of course, this doesn't say "you can't live in CA", but for people unable to come up with $10K, it does say that
Time will tell. That's the good part about the future
[also misbehaves on Kuro5hin as Peahippo]
Substitute the Internet for teleportation and if, instead of "Flash Crowds", he'd called them "Slash Crowds"... :^)
One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
http://www.freep.com/money/tech/mwend13_20021213.h tm
Hey let's go further, let's give his phone number to telemarketers. He is a supposed millionaire, I am sure he would be delighted to receive wonderful business opportunities by phone.
I'm sure some slashdot reader knows someone who can insert him in some databases of people to "telemarket".
Oh wait, why not sell his information. After all, others do it every day otherwise I wouldn't receive those calls for a security for my house.
(Sorry if this post is redundant, I haven't read all the posts)
Men are born ignorant, not stupid; they are made stupid by education. Bertrand Russel
Yes, this is a rerun. Would somebody tell me when he actually files the lawsuit?
This sig no verb.
Are the /. editors going to keep posting this same story every week?
12/6 Story: HOWTO: Annoy a Spammer
11/25 Story: Spam King Lives Large off Others' E-Mail Troubles
11/22 Story: Another Millionaire Spammer Story
11/13 Story: The Economics of Spam
Enough already.
How would you propose proving it's Mr. Ralsky sending you the spam though?
This sig no verb.
I think this sums up CA's problem; progress is definitely dampened by such reluctance to move into the unknown, and the level of assurance desired is simply too expensive. That, and the fact that you shouldn't build cities in the desert or even an arid land.
California's real problem is that it is so self-righteously "green". They've regulated themselves out of alternatives, which they displayed so well during the power outages (all the while claiming the problem was "deregulation").
Now, the only course left is for California to use its huge congressional contingent to pass legislation that keeps upstream states from taking water from the Colorado river. I'm an ex-Angelino, and I think the solution to California's problems is to nuke LA. It couldn't be any more unlivable than it is now.
I used to get Green Mountain Power, but California did something to the legal climate that made them fold up shop. How this is categorized as "self righteously green" I can't imagine.
C//
They talk about this somewhere in the FAQ that a simple link check often does work. So we get dupes even where the links are identical?
The sanity check could compare the language of the cited articles for overlap, or a preponderance of keywords. I know the slashdot software is under continuous development, who knows what is in the works.
But here, I think a pretty quick check for the spammer's name or the link would have done the trick. I don't know whether it was attempted, but if not that small time savings for the editor consumes many times the time of the posters.
If I understand your comment, you proved my point. California regulated a lot of companies out of business in the name of environmental goodness (green). California is loudly pro-environment but expects all the other states to provide it with power and water.
Oh, wait. That was a joke, wasn't it?
This leads to another of my predictions which I've advocated (yes, I mean "I support enthusiastically the idea of") for years: the water wars out in the American West.
There are just too many urban areas in too arid of climates. They draw so heavily on available water that rivers fail to reach the sea and aquifiers drain so much that the land sinks. Their appetite for water (and to be fair, that of farmers and industries) is simply too high. So they must use force in some respect to get more water.
I live near a Great Lake, and have seen more than enough attempts to get some of that water out West. If we let them, California alone would pipe out Lake Erie until the lake became a river.
As time goes on, the demand will just get worse, and there must be instances of crisis when a drought hits. The Californians will indeed bend the national Congress over their knee and spank them until they pass a law making Midwestern states dig the Great Lake pipeline. And then the shooting will start in ernest. (After all, there's no way to secure a pipeline; a little dynamite can always be brought into the argument, making CA's need and authorization a moot point.)
[also misbehaves on Kuro5hin as Peahippo]
I wish I could forward the couple hundred pieces of spam I get a day to this guy. Spammers should have to pay to use the internet then take the money to help maintain the internet infrastructure. Truckers and other commericial vehicles have to pay extra fees for using the interstate system of highways to run their business. I don't see have spammers are any different using the internet for business.
I should be able to charge spammers for the percent of my bandwitdh they are using that I have to pay for. I hate junk snail mail, but at least they have to pay postage, that in long run helps pay for running the post office system.
Meta-discussion here. Note the signatures of Gorge Bush and Oliver White displayed prominently at top right.
Got time? Spend some of it coding or testing
Send a bounce to all of the addresses listed, if it succeeds, add the email address to a list, poison a few random fake blogs with it, and auto-subscribe it to every web site with a form on it that you've found from spidering links in spam. Fight spam with spam, excellent idea! Just sending the bounce will make the bouncing address a spam target, so after a while you wouldn't even need user intervention, since most of the weird form field questions would have been answered and your addresses would really be out there. Your spam-harvesting spammer introduction agency would have hit critical mass. (-:
As a side issue, you could listen for worms and email viruses, sending the attacking machines a gratis copy of the Debian installer, with a suitably educated, er, bootloader. (-:
Got time? Spend some of it coding or testing
I recognize your argument, but it seems to me that there are two problems with it.
... they just do it, and the rest of us do nothing about it. So I have no confidence in the application of legal remedies to anything CA might do directly to enforce a virtual wall along their borders.
... thus, your case seems further weakened.
Firstly, once Balkanization occurs, legal remedies won't exist. Hell, this happens now. Ohio's Supreme Court just ruled for the third time about the unconstitutionality of the way public schools are funded. Why 3 times? There are other reasons, but I must point out the attitude that the Governor and leading legislators expressed when they dismissed the ruling. How can a governor and legislators just ignore their own state 's Supreme Court? Easily
Secondly, commerce is one thing, and residency is another. Now, if the SCOTUS (Supreme Court of the United States) has definitively ruled on the issue and has linked commerce and residency, then I'd agree more with your point. But to my knowledge they haven't
IANAL, BISHBO (but I should have been one)
P.S. Have you considered that perhaps vastly increased housnig prices is CA's way of making people post an assurance bond? Just speculating freely.
[also misbehaves on Kuro5hin as Peahippo]
`here' is a unique, randomly-generated email link like this one: `Bill-Me-USD1000-and-Read-This.-1243363468-3707143 8@$COMPANY' and `payable' is a link to a page describing terms:
Never once had a second piece of spam to those addresses, and that domain's got the least spam of any in my possession. (-:
Got time? Spend some of it coding or testing
...were you representing the DA's office and asking them about Ralsky's drug charges or checking to see whether the lawyers were on drugs because they represent him?
Got time? Spend some of it coding or testing
No, I don't think you get it. Green Mountain Power was an alternative clean power company. California's regulatory climate put the only accessible environmentally conscious power company available in southern california out of the direct power business. Wierd, eh?
C//
What, and get slapped with a stalking charge if I'm caught once again? Nah, I have other operatives who can do that dirty work for me.
> What if we erected bilboards
In his neighborhood, you'd probably need a zoning variance for that.
> Maybe we can put some Retina-Scorcher(tm) floodlights
Anybody got a spare airport beacon? Say, while we're getting a
zoning variance, we could put in more than billboards across the
street. A place of business, perhaps, something legitimate, though
by pure coincidence it may be also a tad hard on property values.
The ecconomy, being down, needs more industry, right?
Cut that out, or I will ship you to Norilsk in a box.
http://www.spambouncer.org/ - Procmail-based, also includes this feature. Also easy to rip out the bounce subroutine and integrated it with your own recipes if you wish, as I have.
retrorocket.o not found, launch anyway?
If his neighbors don't know who he is and what he does for a living, calmly educate them as to wheir the shit in their mailbox is coming from.
retrorocket.o not found, launch anyway?
It's obvious that he used your license plate to get your name and address from DMV records.
I suggest you do something similar - Find out if Ralsky owns a black Jaguar.
retrorocket.o not found, launch anyway?
Destination: The North Pole
Green Mountain Power in SoCal? When was this? I left in '91, when the handwriting was on the wall. I think I was current with the issues (especially concerning the SCAQMD), but I don't recall that name.
I don't know when they started providing. They ended during the Power Crisis. Think that was early 2001, maybe. Or late 2000. I had them for a year or two. Funny part was, I couldn't get our office "environmental nut" to get them. The power cost about the same, but it was _cleaner_. No go. Friggin' hypocrit.
C//