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Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines
An anonymous reader writes "There is a new Quicktime Trailer avalible for Terminator 3 up and avalible to download. Features include shiny chrome, blue LED's a-plenty and a few seconds of a CGI'ed army of Terminators." Looks like a pretty fun movie.
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Oh well, I'm sure You've Got Mail II will be pretty cool.
Sigh.
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I know it's unavoidable, but Arnold is getting old and just looks strange as the Terminator. And the fact that the new "girl" bot looks a regression of design versus the t1000 :|
Damn I feel bad for saying this.
If it's any consolation, I -hope- that this movie is good.
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I was under the impression that T3 was going to tell the story of Skynet coming on-line and the war - taking place entirely in the future.
Instead we get the same concept as T2: an new, advanced Terminator is sent back in time to kill people (presumably Connor once again), and it appears a new Terminator is sent back to protect them, again (Arnold).
The only difference is newer special effects and the evil terminator is a buxom blonde, with big breasts, and wearing a tight red leather outfit.
All these years and all they could come up with is the Baywatch Effect?
Mr. Cameron, I thought you could do better then that.
"They do not preach that their god will rouse them, a little before the Nuts work loose." Kipling, 'The Sons of Martha'
In this one Arnold passes a kidney stone made of pure medal.
Gosh I really wish they can just let these things die.
Really...
Why does the movie industry have to pimp a franchise until it runs out of money, but at the cost of running out of charm too?
Take MIB - it was nice, well, self contained. MIB2 was not NEARLY as good, but they just HAD to drag everyone back to make another sequel (and probably one after that too)
Arnold is like how old now?
And there is gonna be another Rocky? - so will I see dentures flying in the ring?
Creativity just seem really lacking these days. Can't we go and start some new pop legend, instead of feeding on old ones till our brains shrivel?
*matrix is the only "new" one i can think of it off the top of my head. Fight Club maybe too - and I really hope there is no sequel to that*
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Given the stratospheric budget on this one ($150 MM at last check), it is really amazing that they aren't even attempting a twist... I mean come on, how hard is it to push everything forward 50 years and show the skynet war details, or do a prequel, or something besides Terminator 2 redone with better effects... it's such a predictable shame when production companies are given such incredible budgets and they destroy such seemingly indestructible plot concepts
"Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
Can no one else see that this 'film' looks like complete shit. From the first line in the trailer .. "John Coonnoorrr... It's ttiimmeee.." it goes straight down-hill. What is this? Arny can't even play the TERMINATOR. The lines sound .. BAD .. not writing-wise.. but delivery-wise. Yes, there are only two of them (The second being the completely worthless "She'll be back.") but Arny reads them BADLY. Did no one else notice?
.. but can we at least have a little backbone NOW and say that this trailer is shit?
And a female terminator? Does no one else see something wrong with that. I sincerely hope they didn't just do that for lame PC reasons. Why would the machines opt to make a smaller-framed, less physically imposing killing machine? The only way to justify it would be to have some sort of seduction bullshit and that would be stupid in its own right. Christ. So disappointing.
I'm not even going to go into the fact that Arny is the ONLY member of the cast/crew who's come back for this. Cameron is gone and for good reason. He knew there was nothing to be done with the Terminator franchise after T2. T2 was as good as a film about futuristic cyborgs can get and it was the best action film of its (if not any) era. That's why Cameron's turned his attention to making True Lies II a good movie.
God. I can't even count everything that's outlandish and ridiculous about T3. Yeah, we're all gonna see it
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Well its news for nerds, and nerds love famous fictitious characters. No, its true. I just got back from LOTR, and there were people dressed up in star trek outfits and someone else had a lightsaber! I'm like what fucking movie did you guys think you were seeing? Its like they just want to congregate and dress up to show how nerdy they are. But I shouldn't complain, cause I like to laugh.
You mean, it takes T-1000's and sends them off to be on the X-Files?
I'd hardly call that "destroying".
But then, I'd call anyone who could banish a T-800 to the world of Last Action Hero to be one mean bitch.
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Speaking about bots from this movie. The conceptual art of one of the robots looks remarkedly similar to a character from an older movie...
All editorial writers ever do is come down from the hill after the battle is over and shoot the wounded.
James Cameron is not in this one. Maybe that's why it doesn't look so good?
Mr. Cameron, I thought you could do better than that.
James Cameron is sitting this one out, AFAIK. He didn't direct this one, and I think he only got writing credit on the IMDB listing because he has to, since he created the characters.
I think he felt there was no need for another sequel. To a degree, I agree with him. But on the other hand, I'm looking forward to checking out the continuation of the story on the big screen.
I'm so dying for a continuation of the story, in fact, that I've devoured the books that have been written to do so. There are two so far by S.M. Stirling, and one so far by Russell Blackford. They are not related to what's going to happen in Terminator 3, they take different paths. Having read all of them, it takes a little effort to keep the storylines straight. But it's definitely worth it-- the books make reference to the most minute details mentioned or seen in the movies, which (obsessive Terminator fan that I am) I find very satisfying.
~Philly
Okay, for the benefit of the people who havent really looked into this movie I'll provide the following information.
First off, I was quite interested in this movie so I found out if James Cameron was directing it, he is not... my interest dropped a fair bit.
Secondly, they tried to get Linda Hamilton to reprise her role as Sarah, she refused to do it after looking at the script. Not a good sign.
I've looked at the storyline, and this sounds shockingly familiar to a fanscript I read back in '98. Although there are a couple of differences, the overall plot is exactly the same.
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Who's been waiting for T3??
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I know that T2 is *MY* cult movie.
- Superb effects at the time (one of the first heavy-3d film actually and one of the few with a good storyline, especially with the crap coming out since a few years
- Superb storyline (for an action movie)
- Superb ending (something that Hollywood is usually good at screwing up (dragonheart comes to mind) on of the main hero "DIES", something you won't see often, because good guys always live and win with hollywood.
- Overall, one of the best rounded movies in the 90s, I have yet to see a movie that will sustain me that much all long and heck even make me cry at the end (another rare thing with action movies, or totally screwed up that makes you want to laugh (or cry because you lost 10$
Heck if T3 would be just 1/2 as good as T2 was, I'd pay 50$ to see it!
Producers relying on 3D renderings should always look at T2 to learn how to balance that technology, I never seen anything that was as balanced as T2 in the 90s; the CGI effects were coexisting with the storyline (and not only being a CGI festival covering the rest that would be crap, like Hollywood is selling nowadays).
Can't wait.
Heck while at it, why not announce Neuromancer the movie, that would make my day!
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What, you think all the Terminators look alike? They were created by Skynet, remember, to infiltrate human enclaves. If every single Terminator is a tall white scary guy who looks like Ahnold, then they're no good for covert infiltration. The "hot female" chassis is probably just one of many designs for the pre-T1000 series, with, yes, the added advantage that a female Terminator could have certain psychological advantages in manipulating humans over a male terminator.
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Terminator: Human protects Sarah from Terminator
Terminator2: Terminator protects Sarah+John from advanced Terminator
Terminator3: Terminator protects John from Barbie.
The machines aren't the only thing rising! Whew!
For those of you like me that are on linux and want to see this, here are some tips:
1) The latest version of mplayer does play all QT, including this one. The needed codecs are here along with a short how to.
2) The standard view-source and play whatever it lists doesn't work. All trailer's on apples website are now redirects. Add an "m" before the size for the real movie (t3_tlr_480.mov becomes t3_tlr_m480.mov).
3) mplayer http://... usually doesn't work (sits there at 0% cache). Just wget it.
4) Here's a direct link to the large trailer.
5) While I'm at it, here's a link to the large X2 (X-Men 2) trailer.
Ironic how just yesterday there was discussion of boycotting the MPAA, and here - just about 100 pixels below the trailer is a link to mpaa.org...
Are we going to do this, or is a boycott just vaporware? Oh, I see - I'll watch the TT tomorrow, and after that I'll quit. I can quit anytime! They have a link to a really lame writeup on how piracy affects movie sales - they use the example of Star Wars: Phantom Mencace, that once it got to Asia, it was so pirated that nobody wanted to see it anymore. Bah! I say that everyone knew how badly Jar-Jar fucked it up that they didn't want to see it anymore.
Let's pick a weekend for a big movie opening - at least a few months from now, so that we'll have time to organize and boycott it for a weekend. Then, we'll intentionally all go and see it on, maybe a tuesday afternoon - just to show them how many we are that protest their anti-piracy policies.
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A quick look at the cast & crew will tell you that T3 is going to be a big budget train wreck. The most glarring omission? James Cameron. He directed and wrote T1, directed, wrote and produced T2. He's nowhere to be found on T3. Very Bad. Nor do we get William Wishner Jr., co-writer of both T1 and T2. Very, very bad.
So who do we have instead?
Director: Jonathan Mostow
Of "U-571" infamy.
Writers: John D. Brancato and Michael Ferris
The people who brought us "The Net", "The Game" and the terminally medicore "Interceptor".
Writer: Tedi Sarafian
He wrote the script for "Tank Girl".
Actors...
The only returning actor is Arnold, because you can't have the movie without him. Neither Linda Hamilton nor Edward Furlong are coming back.
Given the exodus of the original cast and crew and the lame second string players they've brought in for replacements, I can predict it won't be worth $10.
Rent the T2 Special Edition instead.
Stop terminating a dead horse.
Seriously, though, I don't understand why they are making this movie, or at least why they are making it the way they are now.
First off, Arnold is a bit too old now. 5-8 years ago, maybe it could have happened. Not now, though, despite the massive amounts of makeup.
Second off, looks like they are just turning this into a cheeseball cliche action movie. Very little originality, lots of mindless action, special effects, and the obligatory hot chick.
Now, the trailor gives away very little except that the machines have sent thier latest robot back in time to kill us. The original Terminator must also go back to stop that machine. Sounds a lot like the Plot of Terminator 2.
I might be wrong. It might end up being a good movie. I just doubt it.
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Also, whenever there's talk of T3, the question comes up, well, didn't they stop it from happening? Obviously not, and here's how. Arnie tore off his own arm after the T1000 stuck it in that machine in the steel mill. So, they used his arm for the research instead of the original Terminator's arm and CPU. Also, I've heard the idea that Cyberdyne Systems had off-site backups. ;)
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In the future we will be hunted by teenage blondes that look like Buffy the vampire slayer.
This movie is going to be a joke. No James Cameron is bad enough, but making Buffy the vampire slayer into the terminator is just over the top.
Yes I know it's not the real Buffy chick, but honestly, does it matter? It's the same cliche.
We aren't the fucking borg man. I didn't agree to any boycott nor has anyone I know. Maybe you did, but don't dare include me in your "we".
Only problem is, they didn't destroy the Terminator's arm, that was torn off in the giant gear. They destroyed the arm that was left by the original Terminator, but Arnie only had one arm when he took the molten lead bath. There's still an arm (and thus a chip) floating around somewhere. Hence, the ability to make a sequel.
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Well thats one movie Im not going to go and see. Just watched the trailer and I had an amazing sense of deja vu all over again.
Basically it looks like Terminator 2 with tits.
I wonder if they'll introudce a plot device as outlandish and unbelievable as Cyberdyne keeping offsite backups.
Naah. Too unbelievable.
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Just some quick background information...
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/* Arnie hanging from a crane driving down the street? Or would this be a rehash of the "Saving ____ Connor from the evil terminator by jumping in front of, on, or shooting at the chase vehicle?" scene? */ followed by a big truck exploding ending with a fight in some factory type of place.
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I remember back when I was a kid, I convinced my parents to sneak me into the Drive In to watch the original Terminator on the big screen. I remember being blown away by the action, the story, and well... okay, I had a school-boy crush on Linda Hamilton.
Of course when T2 came out I hadn't seen the original in years, so I went out and rented it from the local Video Store and checked it out again. Again I rather enjoyed it, and was able to have an even deeper understanding of the films story.
Then I went and saw T2, and I started to feel uneasy. For it was then that I started to realize that the entire film was basically just a rehash of the entire first film.
The structure, plotting, even the scenes are almost completely ripped off from the first movie. From the arrival scene, to the "Finding *insert* Connor.", to the ending sequence where both films ended with a car chase, tanker explosion, and a climactic battle scene in a manufacturing plant with lots of belts and gears and pullies and crap.
It was almost as if Cameron had didn't really bother to come up with anything new. So when I found out that he wasn't doing it I was quite happy. Not because I think his movies suck, but more because I didn't really want to see a rehash of T1 & T2 yet again.
But after watching that trailer, I'm pretty conviced that we're going to see the same film as the first two.
We're going to have a similar arrival experience, although with the Bimbornator it might be interesting. Then we're going to be subjected to a wasteful 20-30 minutes of "Is the Bimbornator bad or good, and just where in the heck is John Connor, and why doesn't he look like Eddie Furlong, anyway?" Despite the fact that all the advertising for the film is going to make it quite obvious that Bimbornator is bad, Arnie is good.
We're going to probably have a the flimsy filler that will attempt to make a story, but will probably follow quite closley to the original plot, "John you are destined to be this great leader, you better make sure you don't die! Oh and by the way, this evil Sky-Net thing you killed in the last movie, it didn't die."
It will most likley end with a cheesy car chase scene,
The sad part though is that the coolest part, the first 15-20 minutes of the movie that takes place in the future, would probably make a more interesting and exciting movie to watch.
But the even sadder part though, I'll probably go and see it. Even though I know it'll probably suck badly, deep down I have this faint hope that they might actually make this film interesting, exciting and worth seeing.
Oh, and one last thing... Did anyone else get the feeling that when the Bimbornator was running through the forest in the red leather outfit; that for just a split second you were watching a trailer for an upcoming episode of Buffy?
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So, like, I tried to sent an assassin robot back in time and it was like "beep beep..."
What part of "shall not be infringed" is so hard to understand?
The T3 of my imagination is better than this drek. In my T3, we see hubris of man as they give the keys to the kingdom to a machine. Skynet become-self aware and the war starts. John Connor rises up and fights in a dark painful world where the banality of mindless evil crushes everyone's soul and body. His soldiers, friends, and mother die around him.
Sure, he sends Ahnuld back to save his bacon but that is what is so interesting to me about this mind-flick -- what happens after? I'm sure it would have a Millenium type feel with timequakes or something or would the future just instantly change into something more pleasant, too easy, like Ender at the end of Ender's Game. Where do you go next?
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Are we going to do this, or is a boycott just vaporware?
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I have already seen Terminator 2!
Oh this -is- a new episode? Terminator 3? I thought it should be somehow different from the previous two episodes. I thought these people are PAID to be original and creative.
Joking apart, I am not going to waste my time and money in watching a pathetic re-make of Terminator 2. I wish nobody did, because it's about time that the habit of sqeezing out the last cent from a franchise while adding NO NEW IDEAS, came to an end.
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I was watching the trailer and about three quarters of the way through it crashed with the following:
Abnormal Termination Error
How apt.
I'm just curious.
As you may or may not know, the actory playing the T-X is norwegian.
Do scandinavian women appear as exotic to Americans? For a native norwegian I get a disturbing notion that the T-X is just about to tell the weather forecast or work in the state financial committee. Personally I think this makes her even more scary.
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the lamest explanation they could use.
It likely the arm of a Terminator contains some distributed neural processing capability consider the Terminator equivalent of muscle memory particularly part of a 'learning machine/computer' with redundant systems and fail-over capability.
The idea of Cyberdyne using off-site disaster recover or fire safe backup vault are also very credible.
Building Terminators requires advances in metallurgy.
There is also the unsettled issue of a batch of steel containing some highly unusually elements, or a part of the liquid metal terminator surviving. There are several clues that detached liquid metal is somewhat autonomous but with reduced effectiveness, how can we be sure it is all accounted for ?
If a T-800 can self repair it is likely a T-1000 Liquid metal terminator can also, perhaps this is become SkyNet.
The final point is that we as outside observers know that despite their best efforts, the future is already set. It cannot be changed, otherwise a cause and effect paradox arises. The idea that the heroes can change anything is an error in their knowledge or percecption.
All that has happened IS history. The T1 & T2 stories, the future fall, the fight for survival, and ultimatly John's victory have already happened.
I know I have just seen a trailer, but it seems like a bandwagon flick. Nothing innovative from what I can see - sorry, making the terminator a chick is just a lame gimmick. This might be a "wait for the rental".
I gotta say though, hearing that booming theme "Duh Duh Dum Da Dum" still sends chills down my spine.
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...here is the transcript of the trailer:
.... stalavista
In A.D. 2101
War was beginning.
Sarah Connor: What happen ?
Kyle Reese: Somebody set up us the nuclear bomb.
John Connor: We get signal.
Sarah Connor: What !
John Connor: Main screen turn on.
Sarah Connor: It's You !!
Terminator: How are you gentlemen !!
Terminator: All your base are belong to us.
Terminator: You are on the way to destruction.
Sarah Connor: What you say !!
Terminator: You have no chance to survive make your time.
Terminator: HA HA HA HA
Sarah Connor: Take off every 'zig' !!
Sarah Connor: You know what you doing.
Sarah Connor: Move 'zig'.
Sarah Connor: For great justice.
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