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Video Game Award Show Announced

HorrorIsland writes "According to the Boston Globe, Video game industry gets TV award show. Of course, it sounds like the on-screen awards will focus on celebrities both real (Dennis Hopper), artifical (Laura Croft, perhaps), and in-between (Jenna Jameson)... so you can quit trying to hold in your gut, programmers!"

117 comments

  1. Lara. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's "Lara", not "Laura".

    But I guess that it doesn't matter, because the games blow.

    1. Re:Lara. by OneEyedApe · · Score: 1

      The original Tomb Raider was a rather enjoyable game, but I must agree that the games following that did not come close to the quality of the original, and the "modifications" to the main character model did get a bit ridiculous.

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    2. Re:Lara. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      because the games blow

      Wow! Is there a secret cheat code for that?
      Is that where Jenna Jamison gets involved?

      That's it, I'm purchasing a copy today!

    3. Re:Lara. by CaptainPsyko · · Score: 1

      It's a damn shame the games blow. The first one had quite a bit of potential.

      Of course, I'd rather Lara blow anyway.

    4. Re:Lara. by Andy_R · · Score: 1

      Wow, Really? Well, that's one set of cut scenes I sure won't be skipping!

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  2. Region encoded prizes by KrunZ · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...and all the prize-categories will be replicated for each region.

    1. Re:Region encoded prizes by mkraft · · Score: 1

      What if someone dupes the prizes? Do they have to reset and do the awards show over?

  3. Blatant Discrimination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I suppose Donkey Kong and Ms. Pac Man were not invited, simply because they're out of favor with the "in" crowd. What a convenient way to overlook their innumerable contributions to video gaming over the years. I, frankly, am disgusted.

    1. Re:Blatant Discrimination by mirko · · Score: 1

      What about Commander Keen and Miner Willy ?

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    2. Re:Blatant Discrimination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...and I suppose we're going to ignore Leisure Suit Larry because he works blue, right?

    3. Re:Blatant Discrimination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but in that case how do they do so well? it doesn't make much sence if you consider the dynamics of it all.

    4. Re:Blatant Discrimination by Jagasian · · Score: 2

      Keen is a Super Mario Bros rip off. Id originally intended to make a Super Mario Bros clone for the PC, but Nintendo said no, so they changed the art.

  4. Would there be a by The+Analog+Kid · · Score: 1, Funny

    sort of Razzie Award show too? Then you can really tell who the bad developers are.

    1. Re:Would there be a by uncoveror · · Score: 2

      I wonder if the Video Game Awards will produce anything worthy of inclusion on the Awards Show Awards? Is TV out of ideas or what?

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  5. Categories by MosesJones · · Score: 5, Funny


    Most expanded Female chest in an Action Game

    Largest amount of gore created from a shotgun blast

    Largest gun

    Largest impact on work productivity

    Smallest number of patches before it would work properly

    Smallest slip from proposed date to actual date

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    1. Re:Categories by ender81b · · Score: 2, Funny

      Smallest slip from proposed date to actual date

      Or, the converse:

      Greatest change from proposed date to actual date. We can just go ahead and call this the 'Blizzard' award in honor of Warcraft II, III, Diablo II, Starcraft, etc, etc.

    2. Re:Categories by G-funk · · Score: 3, Funny

      Er, I believe we can safely call a pre-emptive strike in favour of duke nukem forever.

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    3. Re:Categories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i would have thought dai katana would be in there (i didn't want to mention it, the devil made me do it)

    4. Re:Categories by ender81b · · Score: 4, Funny

      Heh, they get the 'lifetime achievement award.' =).

    5. Re:Categories by KrunZ · · Score: 1, Funny
      and these I suppose:


      Largest amount of football games released by one company


      Least difference between a game released last year and a game released this year

    6. Re:Categories by Dark+Lord+Seth · · Score: 5, Funny
      Er, I believe we can safely call a pre-emptive strike in favour of duke nukem forever.

      Clearly, the "Forever" bit is related to the development time...

    7. Re:Categories by jgerman · · Score: 2

      Hey they warned you. Forever was how long you'd have to wait for it.

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    8. Re:Categories by anonymous+loser · · Score: 2

      Duke Nukem Forever = infinity. Only on Star Trek could they figure out a way to cancel out infinity.

    9. Re:Categories by Inda · · Score: 1

      Smallest number of patches before it would work properly

      Smallest slip from proposed date to actual date

      I would like to nominate Team17 for both these awards. Apart from the fact their game is still not working properly after 3 years and the only proposed date for the long awaited patch is "Soon, before Christmas <INSERT RANDOM YEAR HERE>".

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    10. Re:Categories by ThrasherTT · · Score: 2

      I've said it before and I'll say it again:

      D(uke) N(ukem) F(orever)

      D(id) N(ot) F(inish)

      Coincidence? Perhaps...

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    11. Re:Categories by SmittyTheBold · · Score: 1

      Which particular issues are you talking about?

      I'm honestly a bit fuzzy, because one, I play the game on other platforms (Dreamcast etc.) and because WWP has been relatively trouble-free for me.

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  6. so what... by eglamkowski · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There are already a ton of awards in the game industry as it is. They're all politically hacked back-scratching non-sense (to put it kindly) and this one won't be any different. Game geeks turned CEOs can be quite petty and vicious...

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    1. Re:so what... by AnamanFan · · Score: 2

      There is one difference with this awards show. It will get more press than the others.

      And who said these awards are being rewared by game geeks to begin with?

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    2. Re:so what... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is not true that all game awards are politically hacked backscratching nonsense. The IGDA(International Game Developers Association) award ceremony at the GDC(Game Developer's Conference) is an Academy style voting process. Nominations and votes are done by IGDA members. Membership is open to all developers. (And possibly to non-developers, I forget because it hasn't mattered for me yet).

  7. Re:CowboyNeil out of touch? by Jugalator · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's CowboyNeal, not CowboyNeil...

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  8. No point... by DasBub · · Score: 1, Funny

    I doubt anyone would bother attending this event...

    John Romero's gonna win everything anyway.

  9. My acceptance speech by Scorchio · · Score: 4, Funny

    As winner of the "longest amount of overtime worked on wacky feature, removed two days after completion when the designer decided he doesn't want it after all" award, I'd like to say hello to my wife, family and dog who are all but a faint memory, and would like to know if I can use the MTV showers.

  10. PREDICTIONS by Vidmaster_Steve · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Duke Forever will sweep the fucking show.

    MOST "ATTITUDE"!
    BEST MALE CHARACTER!
    MOST ANTICIPATED GAME!

    Wait, what am I saying, the works of Color Dreams / Wisdom Tree will end up taking the gold. COME ON BIBLE ADVENTURES, OPERATION SECRET STRIKE, YOU FUCKING GO AND GIVE DUKE NUKEM THE GODDAMNED BEAT DOWN.

    If American Sammy isn't at least given their "Mad Propz, Yo" we can sufficiently say that this show is "Motherfucking Rigged"

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  11. Cashing in by LordKronos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why do I get the feeling this is just a cheap attempt to cash in on the industry? Of course, what else should I expect?

    I would be curious to know if anyone has seen any more details about this even. I wonder if this whole thing is going to be arranged in collaboration with industry professional or if it is all going to be based on the opinions of a few random judges or something.

    1. Re:Cashing in by swordboy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why do I get the feeling this is just a cheap attempt to cash in on the industry?

      Ummm... Capitalism is about cashing in.

      The video game industry has already 'cashed in', as they rake in more than the domestic box office every year. It is huge. This is the next logical step (the fingers in the pie that are the Xbox was one of the first).

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    2. Re:Cashing in by LordKronos · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I really meant people *outside* the industry trying to cash in and get a little piece of the video game pie. Thats why I was asking how much collaboration there would be with industry professionals on this.

      Maybe it is elitist of me but, as an independant game developer myself, I kind of feel insulted by the prospect of someone else trying to give out awards for my industry. We already have our own awards ceremoney (as the article mentioned). Its the Game Developers Choice Awards at the Game Developers Conference each March. The thing I like about the GDCA is it is the industry giving out awards to their own people, and the winners are quite level headed. There isn't anyone showing up accepting awards drunk, or getting up there saying "I'd like to thank god, and my mom, ....[5 minutes later, stage director cues to wrap it up]...I'm not done yet...I'd also like to thank my dog, and that guy that bought me a hot dog this morning". I feel that at most of the other awards, the winners get caught up in the glammor and how "special" they are. I'm afraid an event like this wouldn't acknowledge the people who actually make these games happen, and instead we would have some big headed CEO's accepting the awards or something.

  12. Cmon by zephc · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    What is with this rumor that all programmers are fat??

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    1. Re:Cmon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that's a nice site, pics of some fat guy who likes to tell you he's fat, and his cats. and they say there's nothing of interest left on the internet!

      P

  13. Don't forget the long-standing tradition... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...as with all awards ceremonies, there'll have to be a Lifetime Achievement Award, which will probably go to Mario...

  14. A hope by katalyst · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is great !!! Now, it may not be the market ALONE which judges the game... (as the same goes for movies). Actuall SKILL will now be appreciated. The possible areas for awards are amazing: -best action/adventure/blah blah -best gfx -best sfx -best soundtrack -best voice over -best gameplay -best MOD -best charecter male -best charecter female -best weapon (?) -best story line -best cutscenes/direction woha... i'm drooling here.
    Incedently, Lara Croft was the only woman who made it in the top 50 personalities.. listed by the Time Magazine a few yrs back.. (2000 I think).

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  15. I suppose this could work... by acehole · · Score: 1, Redundant

    I could see the designers and programmers involved with 'Duke Nukem Forever' getting a life time achievement award.

    (providing it ever does get released ;)

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    1. Re:I suppose this could work... by ender81b · · Score: 2, Funny

      Great Minds think alike!.

      Of course the possibility of Duke Nukem Forever ever actually being released is pretty much nil. Indeed in a few years the possibility of it actually being released will go *Below* zero and soon we will have the memory of Duke Nukem Forever actually be erased from our minds and the collective consciousness of the geek community. Or something. I'm delirious time for bed.

  16. Re:CowboyNeil out of touch? by lburdet · · Score: 1, Funny

    >> It's Lara Croft, not Laura...
    > It's CowboyNeal, not CowboyNeil...

    where, oh where are your mod-points when you need them... and where's the Grammar Nazi when you need him?

  17. Who will decide... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Who will decide who gets the prizes?
    The current awards that are given within the IGDA (International Game Developers Association) aren't public prices. They are selected by a jury form within the industry, making those prices more important for your reputation amongst other developers.
    Such TV shows only seem to be for commercial endings and only big titles will win I suspect. Settled big name publishers and developers will benefit from such an event.

  18. Will anyone look at this? by Fulkkari · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Do you really think this will be interesting? Why would anyone want to see never-before seen person like a producer of a game grab an award? Why you actually look at awards on the tv, is not because not the awards itself. It's because of the celebrities.

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    1. Re:Will anyone look at this? by Man+of+E · · Score: 2

      Not that most people know the names and faces of movie producers, editors or effects people. It's really just the actors and directors that get the limelight.
      But when it comes to game designers, who can tell? Maybe thanks to this, next thing you know, John Carmack or Romero will be as well-known as Steven Spielberg. This might also make voice acting for games a more interesting area for professional actors to explore.
      The downside might be a return to FMV as "celebrities" try to get their faces in the game (shudder).

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  19. Believe it or not... by Salden · · Score: 1
    Of course, it sounds like the on-screen awards will focus on celebrities both real (Dennis Hopper), artifical (Laura Croft, perhaps), and in-between (Jenna Jameson)...

    Jenna Jameson does exist. There are real women out there, they are not all fantasies, fellas.

    Yes, I know it was a joke, mine post is also a joke, relax....

    1. Re:Believe it or not... by jmcwork · · Score: 1, Funny

      Would Ms. Jameson qualify as a partially silicone-base life form?

    2. Re:Believe it or not... by Parad0x177 · · Score: 1

      Yes Virginia, there is a Jenna Jameson...

      It's just that she's surgically, digitally, and manually augmented, lifted, tucked, brushed, tweaked, buffed, and fluffed for our "viewing" pleasure....

  20. The "When It's Done" Lifetime Achievement Award by pariahdecss · · Score: 1, Funny

    And the nominees are: 1) Duke Nukem Forever (and ever) 2) Team Fortress 2 (Brotherhood of Vaporware) 3) Prey (that we never release this) 4) The big hairy mole on Doom guy's ass 5) et al

    1. Re:The "When It's Done" Lifetime Achievement Award by gclef · · Score: 2

      You know, maybe we don't want them to release "the big hairy mole on Doom guy's ass". Personally, I think my life would be a bit better knowing that a game called "the big hairy mole on Doom guy's ass" never made it out of the design stage. It would encourage me that there is some hope left.

  21. Been done before. by Ryokurin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I remember in the early 90s a so called "Video Game Awards Show" called something on the lines of 'Cybermania' that was shown on TBS one year. It was around 1993 or 1994. Im willing to bet that the TNN version would be pretty much the same thing, and probably will only come around once too.

    1. Re:Been done before. by parliboy · · Score: 2

      I certainly hope it'll improve somewhat on that one's track record. They gave token awards to Doom and the SimCity CD-Rom game, but other than that, it was pretty much an ass-kissing to an FMV title by the name of Voyeur. Eventually it was swallowed up by IDSA and integrated into E3's awards, a much better fate to be sure.

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    2. Re:Been done before. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember that, the celebreties that never played a game in their lives, had to present lame awards. And because it was all "Cyber" they used Apple Newtons instead of envelopes to read the name of the winners, problem was they didn't know how to use the newtons(maybe lost the stylus?) so you could see a sticker on the damn screens with the name of the winners.

  22. What... by Wtcher · · Score: 2, Funny

    No "Best Story" award?

    *glitters*

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  23. Re:CowboyNeil out of touch? by iapetus · · Score: 2
    From Websters:
    Irony \I"ron*y\, a. [From Iron.] 1. Made or consisting of iron; partaking of iron; iron; as, irony chains; irony particles. [R.]
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  24. Halle Berry by KrunZ · · Score: 1

    As long as the award show commitee can promise me that we won't have Halle Berry crying on the stage I will not interfer.

  25. Like Beavis and Butthead on MTV or... by wwwssabbsdotcom · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...like the animated characters on Monsters for the Emmys was it? I think they should have Solid Snake from Metal Gear Solid in here somewhere, but who knows what they'll do.

    Cool idea, I wonder other than Gamespy.com and GameSpot.com how are people voting on these?

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    1. Re:Like Beavis and Butthead on MTV or... by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 2
      I think they should have Solid Snake from Metal Gear Solid in here somewhere

      He can't make it. He's working the AVN awards instead.

      *rimshot*
  26. Will the usual rules apply? by Washizu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When I hear the Oscar nominees I typically try to see the movies I haven't heard much about. If I have heard of it already, chances are I've already made my mind up about it by seeing it or watching the trailers. Unlike a book, you can usually judge a movie by it's trailer.

    Many times the Best Picture nominees are a lot better than the winner. Just look at 1997's group that lost to Titanic:

    As Good As It Gets
    The Full Monty
    Good Will Hunting
    L.A. Confidential

    Personally I don't think video games need an award show. There is so much gaming press on the Internet that good games rarely fall through the cracks.

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    1. Re:Will the usual rules apply? by tswinzig · · Score: 2

      Many times the Best Picture nominees are a lot better than the winner.

      Here, try this sentence on instead:

      "Many times I feel the Best Picture nominees are a lot better than the winner."

      There ya go.

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    2. Re:Will the usual rules apply? by jpmkm · · Score: 2

      Unless someone tells you something is a fact and can provide evidence, or it is common knowledge, you should assume whatever the person is saying is opinion(especially with such an opinionated crowd as slashdot). Therefore, the 'I feel' would be superfluous.

      Back ontopic, Titanic was full of dog shit and cat hair and should have never even been nominated.

    3. Re:Will the usual rules apply? by tswinzig · · Score: 2

      Unless someone tells you something is a fact and can provide evidence

      That's just it, he presented it as fact, and tried to provide evidence (the other movies). Like looking at the list of movies just proves it. I liked all the movies up for the award that year, ESPECIALLY Titanic.

      Those of us not cold and cynical liked it a lot. Witness the huge box office.

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    4. Re:Will the usual rules apply? by jpmkm · · Score: 2

      Oh bullshit. Yes, the movie list is a fact. You can look it up anywhere and it's the same. However, you can look anywhere and you will get different answers for which movie was best. That is an opinion. No one answer is correct and you are an inconsiderate dumbshit if you keep thinking one is.

      Box office sales should not mean anything for award shows. Just because a lot of people saw it does not mean it is a good movie and deserves an award(or several). Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.

    5. Re:Will the usual rules apply? by tswinzig · · Score: 2

      No one answer is correct and you are an inconsiderate dumbshit if you keep thinking one is.

      Hey dumbass, I'm not the person originally posting how the other movies "were better" than Titanic.

      Box office sales should not mean anything for award shows.

      Never did I give the large box office as a reason for Titanic to win. I listed the large box office as proof that there were many people that enjoyed the movie.

      Just because a lot of people saw it does not mean it is a good movie

      In your opinion a movie may or may not be good. The box office proves whether a movie was popular, and whether or not it had staying power. If it had staying power, like Titanic, then it definitely meant a lot of people liked the movie enough to recommend it to friends and see it multiple times.

      Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.

      As a loyal slashdot reader, I'm well aware.

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    6. Re:Will the usual rules apply? by jpmkm · · Score: 2

      No one answer is correct and you are an inconsiderate dumbshit if you keep thinking one is.

      Hey dumbass, I'm not the person originally posting how the other movies "were better" than Titanic.


      I thought you were dumb and then you went and kept talking and proved it. Those two statements have nothing to do with each other. One could say that one movie is better than the others without saying or even thinking that it is the only answer.

      Well your other points really did not contribute any to the discussion so I will not even reply to them.

    7. Re:Will the usual rules apply? by henshin · · Score: 1

      Personally I don't think video games need an award show. There is so much gaming press on the Internet that good games rarely fall through the cracks.

      So you say. And perhaps it's true, but what do the programmers think? The people who give up their lives to make entertainment for billions of sometimes ungreatful children who probably don't understand what it takes to make a video game. I don't know about you, but I like to know I have done a good job. You know, done something that people can appreciate? Maybe an award isn't going to make everyones day, but to some people it really counts for a lot. Now wether or not a TV Game awards is a good idea remains to be seen. Who knows what they will come up with now. Im sure money will have a big part in this, but I highly doubt it will take over the whole thing. I would say have a little faith in humanity, but I would only be lying to myself wouldn't I. =]

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  27. Of course they weren't... by No+Such+Agency · · Score: 2

    People kept mistaking DK for George W. Bush, and Pac Man went around eating everyone else's E.

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  28. First reality TV now this... by will_die · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So a TV channel looking for rating has decided they will create thier own awards show.
    You already have some of this with channels dedicated to a specific topic, but do we really want this with a general anything goes network?

  29. Re:I wonder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Person most featured in online flash games that depiced mameing and decapition"

    What??

    I mean, there are typos here, and there are times when I think I have been errantly routed to a foreign language edition of this site...

    Kid, get off line now, and come back when you have some rudimentary language skills.

    'kay?

  30. Jenna Jameson? by Queelix · · Score: 1

    That girl has gone down more than the slashdot server!

    Ba dum pish!

    1. Re:Jenna Jameson? by inteller · · Score: 1

      Jenna Jameson sucks.....oh wait that's not a good put down. Jenna Jameson blows....hmmm not that either. Jenna Jameson is a ho...uh crap. Ok, there are better ladies out there than Jenna Jameson.

    2. Re:Jenna Jameson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe so, but I'd still do her again.

    3. Re:Jenna Jameson? by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 1

      She smokes more meat than Hickory Farms

  31. Who is Jenna Jameson? by gosand · · Score: 1, Troll
    Just kidding. :-)

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    1. Re:Who is Jenna Jameson? by Queelix · · Score: 1

      I think she was in "Donkey Kong"

    2. Re:Who is Jenna Jameson? by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 2

      No, you're thinking of Donkey DONG

  32. Sam & Max by artoo · · Score: 1

    None of the charaters from Sam & Max were invited either. That has to be one of the most overlooked games ever.

    Of course, then they'd definitely have to run this on a delay, or live. There's no telling what that $%(@!*$# rabbit would say on national TV.

  33. misty water-colored memories by Alric · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There is a significant part of my mind that wishes I were 13 again, with nothing to do on a saturday except play video games all day.

    Is it an inherent quality of getting older to feel that all of the coolest shit is marketed at people younger than you?

    I would now like to pause my life for several years to read good books, watch good movies, and play all of the RPG's I haven't even heard of.

    ARrrrrrr.

    1. Re:misty water-colored memories by Hubert_Shrump · · Score: 1

      Is it an inherent quality of getting older to feel that all of the coolest shit is marketed at people younger than you?

      Nonsense!

      What about things of real quality? I mean, yeah - Kurby 40,000 probably rocks... But.

      The vast majority of non/. reading children (you know who you are) would never get a Kurosawa film. Well, maybe the 7 samurai. But only after that badassed guy lops the loud guy in half -- _SNIP_

      Your tastes are supposed to ripen, I think...

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    2. Re:misty water-colored memories by Alric · · Score: 2

      {moderator note: somewhat offtopic reply to individual, please ignore}

      I agree completely. I just sometimes miss those days when the only real concern when I woke up was "How can I defeat this Leviathan?" and then the sense of satisfaction I would get when I finally realized, "Cast Wall against it, and it won't be able to heal itself. EUREKA!" (Some people know what I'm talking about.) I have great satisfaction in most parts of my life; today I was just struck by the fact that I really could not care less about a video game awards show or a video game channel, when 12 years ago I would have been so excited about it. Now my satisfaction comes from creating artfully reusable and flexible classes and libraries.

      Geez. I guess I really am a geek. Yep.

      If your tastes don't change with time, you probably aren't learning anything new, which is a much more sad idea than a few wistful memories of carefree youth.

  34. Games aren't worthy of this by Junks+Jerzey · · Score: 2

    The typical game has a budget of 4-8 million US dollars, is designed by committee, and is created by 30-100 people working overtime for years. I know that fanboys think that there's a Designer With A Vision behind each game, and so on, but the reality is that marketing concerns override all else (games are marketed as toys) and there's no equivalent of the art film (meaning a movie created without bending to marketing concerns, even though it greatly lowers the odds of being successful).

    1. Re:Games aren't worthy of this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes there is; Ico.

    2. Re:Games aren't worthy of this by Junks+Jerzey · · Score: 2

      Yes there is; Ico.

      No, Ico was just like any other mass market, corporate produced game, except that it didn't click with consumers. That's something different.

    3. Re:Games aren't worthy of this by eglamkowski · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Uh, what world are you living in? The average game has a typical budget of a few hundred thousand (at MOST), and a small handful of programmers and artists. A big project for a game dev house might run up to a million dollars (at the high end), have a dozen artists, a half dozen programmers, and a designer or two.

      The big game companies like EA and Microsoft are the exceptions in the game industry. Next time you go to your local computer game store, take a look at how many hundreds (possibly thousands if you consider consoles) of games there are. Most of them are written by third party development houses on shoestring budgets, not by mega corporations with multimillion dollar budgets.
      Yes, many of the most popular games are written by the biggies, but that's a tiny fraction of the total games out there.

      Most of the games are *published* by the big guys, but the actual coding and artwork is done externally.

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  35. This will suck royally to watch. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    It will also mean jack shit.

    This is an awards show being produced FOR TV. Not for the developers. It's an excuse to get some lame Hollywood stars up on stage to say, "Wow, games are great, I didn't know you could do this kind of thing with computers. [Insert outdated Pac-Man joke here, pause for lau^H^H^Hcoughing.] I'd like to thank EA for letting me do the voice work for Stinkface McAss, because I've been stuck doing dinner theater in Tahoe after getting caught doing lines off so-and-so's wife's tits. Hi Mom!"

    Meanwhile, it's a given that pretty much no Japanese or European dev talent will be recognized. But for some reason I envision Microsoft already has a team working on sweeping these so-called awards with gaudy "extreme" non-games fewaturing an all-Scientologist voice cast extravaganza.

    "For a thorough Hollywood rimjob, there is no power greater than X."

    1. Re:This will suck royally to watch. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You make some really good point - but I doubt that any American dev. talent will be recognised either.

      I'm pissed that it seems like they're very much wanting to focus on the actors and actresses who play voice roles in the games - not the people who actually do the work to make the games.

      To focus on the voice talent is to forget the guys and girls who worked 100 hour weeks for several months to get the game finished on an impossible schedule so it could ship before Christmas (been there, done that - twice).

      Let's face it - today's games are largely not character-driven. There are not yet long touching monologues and emotional nuances. Nobody makes "art house" video games - they can't afford to. Voice acted games are a digital puppet show - a talking monkey could do most of it. Voice roles requiring talent are still few and far between and it isn't even a requirement for a game to talk. Until an awards show such as this drops the pretense and gives the entire development team respect, it's going to be nothing more than self-congtatulatory grandstanding bullshit.

  36. please stop these hurtful stereotypes! by bilbobuggins · · Score: 5, Funny
    so you can quit trying to hold in your gut, programmers!

    why is this such a stereotype with programmers?
    it's just because of this i've been trying to _get_ a gut for years, beer, cheetos the works - but nothing doing yet

    and to top it all off, i have to have /. in the morning reminding me how much of a lesser coder i am with comments like these!
    please stop this horrible stereotype, so us skinny geeks can finally stand up proud!!

    1. Re:please stop these hurtful stereotypes! by Quixadhal · · Score: 2, Funny

      You need a beard too.... regardless of gender, all true programming gurus have beards. :)

  37. Re:CowboyNeil out of touch? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That would be 'Spelling Nazi,' not 'Grammar Nazi.'

    Regards,
    Terminology Nazi

  38. Video games, on TV? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It'll never happen.

  39. Laura Croft by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    I know who Lara Croft is, but who is "Laura Croft"? And why does she matter to video game junkies?

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  40. L.A. Confidential by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's French, you know. It means "the confidential one."

  41. I can't see this being successful... by sterno · · Score: 2

    One of the primary values of the awards shows for movies and music is that, for the most part, the people who are receiving awards are attractive, or at least interesting to look at. Somehow I don't think the show's going to appeal to much of an audience when the stage is populated by people who can barely survive in sunlight :).

    Regardless, it's good to see the videogame industry being recognized for it's impact on the world in a positive way. Most of the time when it gets shown in the public light it's surrounded by phrases like, "graphic violence", and "think of the children".

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  42. Dennis and Jenna are in GTA:Vice City by AgentTim3 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Dennis Hopper plays the porn director at the film studio, Jenna Jameson is Candy Suxxx.

    And don't forget Gary Busey, playing the gun-toting hard-drinking redneck Phil.

    What a great game. :)

  43. Great. by Hubert_Shrump · · Score: 2

    You know, I'd been saying to myself: When are we going to bow down before the voice talent?

    Thank you, Hollywood - for teaching us how to love again.

    I hope Aerosmith gets that long overdue award for 'Revolution X'. Ahh, the double-whammy of a videogame/hair-band crossover. Torgo would be proud.

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  44. Video (game) industry gets 'F' for Christmas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    " For the first time, the National Institute on Media and the Family's annual "MediaWise Video Game Report Card" gave the video game industry an "F" grade, prompting Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman, Connecticut Democrat, to threaten congressional hearings."

    More info HERE: http://www.washtimes.com/national/20021220-692065. htm

  45. I have no respect... by The+Raven · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... for an awards show that focuses on the personalities and not the people who make it happen. That would be like awards for best movie that included no director awards.

    Laura Croft is a fictional entity. It does not deserve an award. You do not give out awards to the character, you give them to the actor.

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  46. No! No! No! (Redux) by Maul · · Score: 2

    This is stupid. Absolutely stupid.

    I could care less how many Oscars a movie wins. I could care less how many Emmys a TV show wins.

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  47. WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What the hell is up with 'no score bonus'?

    This has _way_ more points than I meant it to...

    Avert your eyes, kids.

  48. The 2003 Fraggies by salientpoints · · Score: 1

    I don't think many people will be tuning in.

    How many gamers do you know actually watch MTV, let alone watch television? If Viacom promotes the show on their other channels, how will they target the gamer demographic?

    The reason why folks tune in to awards shows is to see the stars. The Academy Awards are most popular because it doesn't matter that people haven't seen the movies being honored, they want to see these celebrities be funny, or cry like Halle Berry when they win. They tune in to see fashion and "personality." Without star power, the National Book Awards on BookTV is just as exciting.

  49. I'd like to nominate Rogue by lostboy2 · · Score: 2
    and the new add-ons that display graphics of Jenna Jameson on the walls. It's amazing how much detail you can get in a couple of pixels! Hubba hubba!
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  50. Hey, wanna trade? by wikthemighty · · Score: 1

    Someone needs to set up a Geek Gut Transplant Program so that us fat guys can share experiences with the skinny ones (and hopefully both come out of the program looking better than before...)

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  51. I guess I really am a geek. Yep. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Count me in.

    The satisfaction of actually making something, rather than having it spoon-fed to you, is where it's at.

    Get down and code, people!

  52. Video games deserve this more than internet sites. by smirkleton · · Score: 2

    Frankly, it should've happened a lot sooner- because there are a lot of great videogame pioneers who deserved more recognition than they got, including the geniuses at Infocom, Howard Scott Warsaw (despite the travesty that was E.T. for Atari...), ID and so on.

    And no offense to /. or The Onion, but the Webby Awards (recognizing "the best of the Web both in quality and quantity") is the most ridiculous and pointless awards ceremony of the last century.

    If the Internet is, as is often claimed, one of the most important mediums of the last century (and perhaps even last 1000 years), doesn't it deserve a better body for the recognition of its best-and-brightest contributors than this? An awards ceremony created by a pretty actress cum filmmaker cum Good Morning America 'internet expert'?

    (inserting obligatory karma-whore reply, "I dunno man- her body looks pretty good to me!")

  53. Not drunk? What show did you see? ;) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Um, I've attended those shows every year since they started. They normally do it right after the "Booth Crawl" where companies try to buy your loyalty by serving you drinks. Half of the people there are drunk off their ass (audience and presenters).

    It is great fun however, I wouldn't have it any other way. :)

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