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Santa Claus vs. the Marketers

Jonathan Cohen writes "Hi: Not sure if this is up your alley, but since Slashdot deals with privacy, copyright, and 'piracy' issues, I thought you might be interested...I'll quote my press release: It's Christmas Eve, and Santa Claus is grounded. After Claus Inc. hired a consulting firm in early November to re-brand Santa's image and revamp its business practices, the corporation has been on a downward spiral. The elf workforce has been downsized 70%, Santa's been given shoulder pads to make him look thinner, and even Rudolph's been eliminated for environmental reasons (nose radiation). This is just part of the free short story "Santa Claus vs. the Marketers," an adult fable about contemporary business issues."

81 comments

  1. I wonder... by WindBourne · · Score: 1

    when it will be santa vs. the crakers/SKs? All you credit cards belong to us (thank you MS).

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    1. Re:I wonder... by WindBourne · · Score: 1

      I am wrong, they are running apache on Mac OS: www.santaclaus.com That explains why no story though.

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    2. Re:I wonder... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Looks like Santa wouldn't know the difference between a hacker and a cracker...

      "But Rob was also a computer whiz, and would've become a hacker if Santa hadn't intervened
      when Rob was quite young." (Jonathan Cohen)

  2. I am stunned and amazed.... by Maudib · · Score: 0

    What? Am I the only Jew or non christian on slashdot?

    This story has been out for 2 minutes, and not a single post yet. Truly unprecedented.

    Of course, it could just be because of the absurdity of a fabble regarding Santa and modern business practices. Im no gentile, but I would think that the notion of associating the two would only further taint christmas.

    Happy holdiays.

    p.s. First Post

    1. Re:I am stunned and amazed.... by snoozerdss · · Score: 1

      Oh please! It's Christmas. I know we're not suppoesd to say so because it might offend someone but come on it's the holidays!! Lighten up a bit. The article is just in good fun. Happy Hanukkah BTW.

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    2. Re:I am stunned and amazed.... by uncoveror · · Score: 2

      Forget Jesus, Santa, Mithra, and other mythology. December 25th is Sir Issac Newton's Birthday,and he definitely did exist! What would science be without him?

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  3. Origin of Santa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I think that Father Christmas (as we call him in the UK) needs to be remodelled. He looks the way he does because a Coca-Cola ad campaign seriously caught on (hence the red and white).

    Personally, the marketing side of Christmas gets to me because the "true meaning" has been totally lost in the persuit of present buying.

    On the flip side the "true meaning" of Christmas is rather lost on me because I'm a heathen!

    Saint Nicholas should be green. He has no sleigh or reindeer, he doesn't live at the North Pole and he does not necessarily have to be fat.

    Still, what does it matter. I'm nothing but an anonymous coward!

    1. Re:Origin of Santa by nagora · · Score: 3, Interesting
      He looks the way he does because a Coca-Cola ad campaign seriously caught on (hence the red and white)

      This is only half-true. Before the campaign Santa was depicted in several ways, green was popular but so was red and white. Coke picked up on the red and white one for obvious reasons but they didn't originate it.

      TWW

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    2. Re:Origin of Santa by elsegundo · · Score: 3, Funny

      In watching the Christmas-related stuff on the History Channel, it would seem that it was those pesky heathens who started all this revelry in late December. The church tacked on the Feast of the Nativity later and then Christmas on top of that.

      My point is that being a heathen, you should know quite a bit about the true meaning of Christmas! :)

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    3. Re:Origin of Santa by DutchSter · · Score: 2

      Haha, it's still early in the morning for me but I can't resist being half troll/half serious:

      In Soviet Russia Santa is Blue!

      My wife's grandfather is Russian, so we've gone to visit him around the holidays a few times. Their "Santa" dresses much like ours, except that all of his clothes are dark royal blue. He is called Dedushka Moroz which means "Father Christmas." However, in most areas of Russia, it is traditionally Babushka Moroz (Grandmother Christmas) who leaves the presents for the children.

    4. Re:Origin of Santa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see the point you are making, but we only put sparce decorations up for the 12 days of Christmas, I also find it odd how some people seem to celebrate Christmas for 2 months!

      Much of the symbolism we come to associate with Christmas (more to Easter I think) derives from Pagan religions - which is ironic given how much Christians hate the pagans.

      To be honest, to me the true meaning of Christmas is just to kick back and chill with the family and friends without worrying about work for a few days. This is a bigger thing than I make it sound.

      I think the BEST thing that could happen for Christmas is a boycott of those horrible Christmas songs in favour of proper, tradional carols. I like them, despite being a heathen!

      No more Jingle Bells.
      No more Jingle Bell Rock
      No more Santa Baby (or whatever it's called

      I'd like that.

    5. Re:Origin of Santa by OneEyedApe · · Score: 1

      True, Original, or Current? The "heathen" celebrations in December would be the original meaning. The true meaning would refer to the christian celebration. And the current meaning can be found out in the stores.

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    6. Re:Origin of Santa by uncoveror · · Score: 2

      In Japan, He's called Annual Gift Man, and he lives on the moon. -Lisa Simpson

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    7. Re:Origin of Santa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My wife's grandfather is Russian, so we've gone to visit him around the holidays a few times. Their "Santa" dresses much like ours, except that all of his clothes are dark royal blue. He is called Dedushka Moroz which means "Father Christmas."

      Dedushka Morz means Father Frost, not Father Christmas.

    8. Re:Origin of Santa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dedushka Moroz means Father Frost, not Father Christmas.

      To be even more correct, "dedushka" in russian means "grandfather".

    9. Re:Origin of Santa by AriesGeek · · Score: 1
      Still, what does it matter. I'm nothing but an anonymous coward!

      And a moron, to boot. While we're at it, why not remodel Jesus? He looks that way because a medeival painter's idea of what Jesus looks like seriously caught on. Considering where/when he was born, he probably did not have long hair and a ghotee. He was probably fairly dark skinned. Probably had a fairly large nose, very pronounced forehead, fairly large, brown eyes. Oh. And since you're a heathen, let's remodel Mary, since you know she couldn't have been a virgin, right?

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  4. This is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Drivel. Plain and simple. Not news that matters, or for that matter news. It is an advertisement. Wise up editors.

  5. Let me guess... by titzandkunt · · Score: 1


    You got shit presents this year?

    Oh! so bitter!

    T&K.

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  6. Yay! by happypizzaguy · · Score: 1

    from the night-santa-went-crazy dept.
    Wierd Al references are fun!

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  7. The reason for the season... by Phredd · · Score: 3, Funny

    In this time of shopping malls, gift giving and presents, lets all take a few moments to remember the reason for the season; the birth of Santa.

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  8. In another news by niranjan · · Score: 3, Funny

    In another news Finland has demanded royalties, which may run into billions, because Santa comes from Finland.

    1. Re:In another news by pilot1 · · Score: 1

      They want money for Santa because thats where he came from?! Thats like saying that after Bill Gates' death, the USA might as well have to pay damages to all the countrys that used his software. Waaaait, maybe that's not such a bad idea.

    2. Re: In another news by Antity · · Score: 2

      Ahem.. Don't they always tell us that owning it doesn't make it our software?

      That said, there can only be so much software that is Bill Gates' software.

      FUD rules.

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    3. Re:In another news by Mike+Monett · · Score: 1

      "In another news Finland has demanded royalties, which may run into billions, because Santa comes from Finland."

      Don'cha know the North Pole is in Canada? If there's any doubt, Santa gives his postal code every time he drives his sleigh:

      H0-H0-H0

      Merry XMAS!

  9. Sad to say.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But it's the Marketers that winns.
    Se result.

  10. Good stuff by nnet · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Nice little read. I enjoyed it immensely!

  11. Dudes, dudes.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...it's Christmas. Logoff. Check out your family. C'mon!

    1. Re:Dudes, dudes.... by nnet · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They're not awake yet. I'm drinking my coffee, and reading /. Besides, we opened our gifts last night :)

  12. For the first time... by craenor · · Score: 5, Funny

    In a long time, I'm working Christmas day. I have what some would call the misfortune (although I like my job) of working Tech Support for Wireless Networking at the largest PC manufacturer.

    Yesterday and I'm sure today, I'm being overwhelmed with calls from boys/girls, moms/dads and grads who are setting up their new wireless networks for the first time.

    Don't forget the series of College students home for the holidays trying to get their portable with the wireless card setup for school to associate with mom and dads wireless network at home.

    I have to admit, that when I first walked in this morning, I was a bit bitter. I considered blaming my day here at work away from my family on every caller. Were it not for them, I wouldn't have to be here.

    But you know what? If I just got a wireless network for Christmas to go with my new computer, well, I would want the stupid thing to work too.

    So I'm happy to help. Maybe someone's day can be made better by the fact that I can get there new toys all working for them.

    To those people calling for older issues though...put down your computer. Watch some TV, relax with your family. Heck, go see a movie.

    My daughter asked my why I had to work today...I explained that Santa had a wireless network in his sleigh so he could get mapquest...I had to be at work in case he needed help with it.

    Merry Christmas!

    1. Re:For the first time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I am a telecoms service engineer, same situation, taking the support calls from network providers that are overloaded by all the christmas phone calls.

      But still, a little sacrifice to make others happy.

      Merry Christmas

    2. Re:For the first time... by nnet · · Score: 1

      I sympathize, this is the first Christmas in the last five years that I don't have to work.
      All the best to you and yours.

    3. Re:For the first time... by ottawanker · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Funny, where I work doing tech support, most people are scrambling TO work christmas, boxing day (a stat holiday in Canada) and New Years, because of the double-time-and-a-half.

      If I wanted to, I could have traded my shift away, and gotten cash for it, and still been payed for the holiday.

      But, doesn't bother me, I worked the graveyard shift, so now I'm relaxing at 11:00 am, drinking some wine, and celebrating. My family doesn't really celebrate Christmas until the 28th anyways (let's us get the last minute boxing day shopping in.. been that way since as long as I can remember - suprised more people don't celebrate this commercial holiday later.)

      Anyways, happy holidays to all!

    4. Re:For the first time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I purposely don't call tech support on Christmas day because I don't want people to have to work that day.

    5. Re:For the first time... by Snotnose · · Score: 1

      My son is a fireman, my daughter a paramedic. Both volunteered to work today because "we don't have families, and our co-workers want to spend time with theirs". Brought a tear to my eye.

      Of course, I'm not stupid. They get paid time and a half for working holidays, and both need the money...

  13. Retail and Christmas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apparently, according to the retail sector the "Christmas Spirit" is going out and buying lots of presents. In point of fact, the Christmas Spirit is about going to church hopefully with your family on Christmas morning.

  14. Re:DO NOT WORSHIP SANTA CLAUS ! by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 5, Insightful

    (I'll probably get modded into oblivion for this, but what the heck...)

    While we're on the subject of subverting holidays: How about the fact that "Christmas" is the result the early Christian Church rebranding Yule (a.k.a Sunreturn)? They even changed the birthdate of Jesus (which was actually in March so far as anyone can tell for sure). Pine trees -- also co-opted from the Pagans. Santa Claus/Father Christmas -- ditto. Midwinter feasting -- etc., etc. All co-opted by (what was then) the New Order.

    My take on the whole business from a Pagan perspective is that the Christians stole our holiday, now they're having it stolen from them in turn by the acolytes of Mammon. As you give, so shall you get. So don't preach at me about "the reason for the season" -- my reasons to celebrate are liable to predate yours by a millenium or more.

    That being said, I hope everybody had a nice holiday, whatever you might call it. Here in Brisbane, we tossed a couple of chickens on the barbie, pigged out, and were blessed by some rain late in the afternoon that checked the heat nicely, thanks.

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  15. Reminds me of Politically Correct stories by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Funny
    Reminds me of Politically Correct Holiday Stories by James Finn Garner.

    His first book, Politically Correct Fairy Tales was pretty cute, but by the time Holiday Stories came out the jokes had run their course. What with the climate of paranoia today, I've got a kick out of some of the political satire running locally.

    He knows when you are sleeping...
    He knows when you're awake...
    He knows if you've been bad or good...

    No, not Santa Claus, John Poindexter, so you better watch out!

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  16. Mirror by Helmholtz · · Score: 2

    Just in case the main site gets slashdotted .... the story can be gotten here as well:

    http://www.gutenpress.org/SantaClausVsMarketers.PD F

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  17. Re:DO NOT WORSHIP SANTA CLAUS ! by NanjingGuy · · Score: 1

    To reuse an old Christmas commercial tagline. It's Christmas! It's fun. So please confine your stupid religious issues to things nobody gives a shit about. Pakistan, please nuke India the next time the infidels give Islam a hard time. Iraq, Iran called you all pig eating scum. Isreal, Turkey secretly tainted this year' gelfite fish with camel dung. Mexico, the US says Catholics eat children on Christmas. Northern Ireland, the French say their saints can whip your saints any day. Let's all remember, revisionist history aside, a relative handful of pissed off white guys sailed out of the frozen north and subjugated the entire planet and kept it long as it damn well suited them. Guess what? They're starting to get pissed again...

  18. Pink slip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does your employer know you waste their money posting to /.?

    Oh and:

    Heck, go see a movie.

    Movies are banned due to teh /. boycott of the MPAA.

    1. Re:Pink slip by craenor · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I realize that some employers discourage posting on websites and surfing the web while at work. My employer has a very clear policy on this as well.

      Don't ignore the needs of customers to surf the web. Don't surf porn, hacking, hate, piracy or illegal activity websites.

      Otherwise, surf to your hearts content to the limit of the firewalls. Which means, if between calls or while a customer is rebooting I want to read /. and keep up with technology news and trends in the industry, more power to me.

      Just because some employers are oppressive about the use of the web in their workplaces, doesn't mean my employer is.

    2. Re:Pink slip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You didn't get the new memo? The ban has been lifted for Wednesdays now. Microsoft has been put into its place.

  19. Nice quote from the story by snowtigger · · Score: 1

    Very nice story. I especially like this line which associates to modern copyright issues etc.

    "I don't know if information wants to be free or not," they heard santa call out from the sleigh, "but I know Christmas presents gifts certainly do."

  20. thanksgiving dinner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a bachelor, my diet consists of canned things and peanut butter. But during the holidays, I look forward to visiting family and enjoying real food.

    Turkey with stuffing. Fresh bread and butter. Baked beans. Caeser salad, pumpkin pie, apple pie. Mashed potatos and gravy. Mmmmm.

    Even right no, I'm not so concerned about the presents, or even if there will be any at all. But the food....

  21. Keeping with the times by StormcallerESC · · Score: 1

    I hear Santa's trying to reinvent his image for the 21st century.

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    1. Re:Keeping with the times by StormcallerESC · · Score: 1

      (uh, that's a clicky)

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  22. Santa Claus lives in Korvatunturi - Finland by niranjan · · Score: 1

    http://www.santagreeting.fi/

    Santa Claus of Finland

    Santa Claus lives in Korvatunturi - "Ear Fell" - with Mrs. Santa and elves. It is his own secret home. He is wise and old. Did you know that Santa Claus speaks many languages. He wears a red coat, vest and linen shirt and warm boots.

    Korvatunturi is 483 metres high and in fact, there are two ears at the top. This way Santa Claus can hear all children around the world. Korvatunturi is located in the municipality of Savukoski, at the eastern border of the Finnish Lapland.

    Since the 1950s, Santa Claus has visited the Arctic Circle to meet children. There he established his own Santa Claus Office in 1985 where he comes every day of the year to meet children and adults and also to hear gift wishes.

    On this site you can read what Santa Claus wants to tell you about Lapland and the traditions of the Finnish Christmas. You can also find some other important things that Santa Claus wants to tell you.
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  23. Spare us your enlightened spirituality..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hmmm. No doubt the 'Pagans' (funny, that is what Christians call them) did not have their religion influenced by people living around them, or the people who had come before them.

    What? You never learned anything about the peoples that predated the Celts? Shamanism predates the Horned God and the Goddess by tens of thousands of years, I would think.........

    Your post reminds me of someone who constantly tells other people how profound 'The Matrix' is -- 3 years after they saw it.

    1. Re:Spare us your enlightened spirituality..... by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 2

      > No doubt the 'Pagans' ... did not have their religion influenced by people living around them, or the people who had come before them.

      My point was that each religious New Wave *cough* borrows *cough* from those preceding it.

      > You never learned anything about the peoples that predated the Celts?

      Who said anything about the Celts?

      > Your post reminds me of someone who constantly tells other people how profound 'The Matrix' is -- 3 years after they saw it.

      I must admit that I enjoyed The Matrix, but -- "profound"? I don't think so. It was just a movie, after all.

      I must confess that I find it amusing when I (very occasionally) point out someone else's preachy revisionism and get accused of it myself for daring to do so. Particularly by those who presume to pigeonhole me so they can make More Enlightened Than Thou attacks on some stereotype, whether or not it actually has anything to do with me or my belief system.

      The pot thinks it sees a kettle and wants to call it black.

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  24. Movie... by sconeu · · Score: 2

    Didn't I see this movie? It starred Pia Zadora as a kid...

    whisper whisper

    Oh. That was Santa Claus conquers the MARTIANS.

    <EMILY-LATELLA>
    That's very different. Never mind.
    </EMILY-LATELLA>

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  25. This just in... by macdaddy357 · · Score: 2

    Biblical scholars and archaeologists have positively established the date of Jesus' birth. It was February 29!!! I guess Christmas will have to be once every four years from now on.

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  26. What I want for xmas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I'll tell you what I want for xmas, I want to be able to turn off the "AD SLASHDOT" Category. The one that keeps posting these useless ADVERTISEMENTS disguised as stories.

    1. Re:What I want for xmas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remove all advertisements from slashdot and you are left will purdy icons.

  27. Conquers the Martians or MST3k reference? by RyanFenton · · Score: 2


    That title reminds me of the old movie "Santa Claus Conquers the Martians", which, surprisingly enough, is aparantly being remade!

    This is the movie from whence the line "Droppo, you're the laziest man on mars!" sprang forth into the world. It's a very entertainingly bad movie, and was featured in Mystery science theater 3000 episode 321.

    Ryan Fenton

  28. What are they still doing here? by Xpilot · · Score: 2

    The elf workforce has been downsized 70%

    I was under the impression that the Eldar left for the undying lands long before. Or did they leave because they were downsized?

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  29. Re:DO NOT WORSHIP SANTA CLAUS ! by CounterZer0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    'my reasons to celebrate are liable to predate yours by a milenium or more'

    That's like saying 'Mine is bigger!'

    Really, who cares who's relegion is older? Older doesn't always mean 'right'.

  30. Sorry, no. That's an Urban Legend. by still_sick · · Score: 2

    The Santa by-way-of-Coke is an Urban Legend.

    Claim: The modern image of Santa Claus -- a jolly figure in a red-and-white suit -- was created by Coca-Cola.

    Status: False

    (Excerpt)"This legend is not true. Although some versions of the Santa Claus figure still had him attired in various colors of outfits past the beginning of the 20th century, the jolly, ruddy, sack-carrying Santa with a red suit and flowing white whiskers had become the standard image of Santa Claus by the 1920s, several years before Sundlom drew his first Santa illustration for Coca-Cola"

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    1. Re:Sorry, no. That's an Urban Legend. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And who the fuck Snopes are? Did they became the Humanity History Authorities while I was sleeping?

    2. Re:Sorry, no. That's an Urban Legend. by Deadstick · · Score: 1

      Ummm, no, they merely dig out sources and offer cites. They'll be glad to take your contrary cites under consideration too, if you can cite something better than a friend of a friend.

      rj

    3. Re:Sorry, no. That's an Urban Legend. by still_sick · · Score: 2

      If you'd care to actually read the site, you'd see that they've got a myriad of actual details with the whole history, as well as verifiable references. Considerring only this, I'd tend to take their word over the word of some AC on Slashdot.

      However if you'd care to send them contrary evidence with verifiable references, I'm very sure they'd change the status to True.

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  31. Re:DO NOT WORSHIP SANTA CLAUS ! by fermion · · Score: 1
    Since I heard a talk about this recently, and apparently i have karma to burn, I will take the flame-bait, as I way too often do.

    There are christians that do take the Santa/Jesus feud seriously. If it is a feud, then, as depicted in the first South Park holiday episode, Jesus has lost. However, it need not be a feud. Jesus and Santa appeal to different parts of our personalities. They are not in competition. Of course if you are referencing the graven image clause of the biblical commandments, they that also precludes ownership of most artwork and buying clothes, cars, etc based on branding. It is not useful to pick and choose commandments.

    The current image is large based on the Coke ads but Santa, much like Christmas is a composite. It Santa's case, there have always been legends of good people leaving gifts for kids. In the case of Christmas, there was an intentional decision by the church powers to set christmas a few days after the winter solstice, in line with then contemporary pagan traditions, rather than Spring, which would have been consistent with biblical accounts.

    You are correct that Christmas is not about gifts, but peace and love. However, Santa in itself is not about materialism. It is about being rewarded for being a good person. This is a developmentally appropriate feeling for children. I was good today so I get a sticker in my book. Santa leaves one gift. Mall santa make parents buy too many gifts.

    And just as a counter argument, no one should worship anything. The 9/11 people worshiped and it caused them to kill thousands of people. McNicol and McVeigh worshiped and they killed innocent children in a day care center. Hitler worshiped and he oversaw the deaths millions of innocent civilians.

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  32. The birth of Santa? by Sr.+Zezinho · · Score: 0

    The birth of Santa? I thought it was someone else's birthday...

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  33. there should really be a spoiler warning by fermion · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Kids, Santa Clause is real, and will always be able to deliver presents. He is just that good. This story was posted by a bad person who hates Santa Clause and wants to end Christmas. Do not believe it. Open your presents and enjoy your day. Remember, Santa loves you.

    Thank You. S. Clause

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  34. Are you saying... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...that there is no clause for alarm?

  35. The TOYS conquer Christmas? by MickLinux · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Ummm... I think there is a serious set of misplaced priorities here. The toys are not more important than Christmas. Nor are they more important than one's daughter. Here are some alternatives:

    (1) Post a notice on the side of the box: "Our employees enjoy Christmas too. We will be available for tech support on Dec. 26th, bright and early."

    (2) Be available for tech support for setup *before* Christmas, for those who have the foresight to test it. Make one optional box a decorated box that only needs a ribbon added. Necessary info is on the bottom.

    (3) Make something that really works out of the box.

    (4) Sell only working units.

    (5) Be more diverse: hire more Jews, Islamic, and Buddhist people. They'll be happy to work on Christmas day. But also have Christians who can work on the Jewish, Islamic (etc.) holy days.

    That's just a few. The overall message? Have a backbone. Be decent to your employees AND their families. Your employment practices do not exist in a vacuum; they help create the world you live in next year.

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    1. Re:The TOYS conquer Christmas? by addaon · · Score: 2

      You think Jews such as myself want to work on National Jews Go To The Movies Day? I don't think so!

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  36. Re:DO NOT WORSHIP SANTA CLAUS ! by Charcharodon · · Score: 1

    The Church modified a lot of the celebrated Church days to match those of the Pagans they were trying to convert. It had an eroding affect. Slowly it ate away at the old traditions and moved them towards the new, of course the new Chruch holidays couldn't escape the influence of the old so we see a hodge podge of both. Halloween is another good example of the Church's schemes. (All saints day). Personally I dislike Christmas (commercial version) and despise religion (I grew up in a Catholic school), but there is nothing wrong with giving gifts and doing good for others. Christmas doesn't have anything to do with God(Jesus), Santa, or Toys R Us. It's about getting closer to or reuniting with family and friends, as well as helping out those we don't even know. Christmas is the annual reminder, of things we should be doing year round. Merry Christmas everyone.

  37. "Damn Fine Writing"?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Send compliments and lucrative business propositions (only!) to

    notsomuch@selfpromotingwhore.com

    Sad.

  38. Fax strait plz by MickLinux · · Score: 1

    Ummm.... we're over here in Lithuania. I might mention that your "Halloween" is an *American* custom, not some mixture of paganism and Christianity and whatnot.

    That said, you might check your other facts. Who knows? Maybe you'll find that Ebeneezer Scrooge was right on the money, after all. [Okay, just kidding].

    But if your impressions of facts are defining your opinions, and they are wrong, then maybe your opinions are wrong too.

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  39. Correct by Snork+Asaurus · · Score: 4, Funny
    I don't know whether you (thought that you) made the part about the postal code up, but it is factually correct. Canada Post's automated mail sortation equipment recognizes the postal code H0H 0H0, which fits the Canadian postal code A(lpha) N(umeric) "ANA-NAN" format, as a valid code (albeit special for letters to Santa), and sorts accordingly. I was involved in a large IT project for them at the time that this was put into place (no, there was more to the project than that). For the life of me, I can't remember what they do with that mail although I do remember that they don't just dispose of it.

    *Happy**Holidays*!

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    Sigs are bad for your health.
    1. Re:Correct by IIRCAFAIKIANAL · · Score: 2

      You mean... the letters I sent all these years didn't go to Santa?

      That makes me sad.

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      Robots are everywhere, and they eat old people's medicine for fuel.
  40. True Story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I emailed Santa for my daughters last night, at Santa@northpole.com. I got a bounce back from Santa saying he had to close that account due to spam...

    How George Stole Xmas
    A Homeland Security Christmas Carol...

  41. Time for Santa to make a Change for the better! by MacSteve · · Score: 2, Informative

    www.santaclaus.com

  42. Re:DO NOT WORSHIP SANTA CLAUS ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mine is bigger.

  43. damnfinewriting = damnfinewaytogetfreemarketing by Linuxathome · · Score: 2

    /. accepts this pseudo-infomercial story but rejects my awesome submission of a case mod with a built-in coffee maker. C'est la vie.

  44. Last Post! by alpg · · Score: 1

    In the beginning there was only one kind of Mathematician, created by
    the Great Mathamatical Spirit form the Book: the Topologist. And they grew to
    large numbers and prospered.
    One day they looked up in the heavens and desired to reach up as far
    as the eye could see. So they set out in building a Mathematical edifice that
    was to reach up as far as "up" went. Further and further up they went ...
    until one night the edifice collapsed under the weight of paradox.
    The following morning saw only rubble where there once was a huge
    structure reaching to the heavens. One by one, the Mathematicians climbed
    out from under the rubble. It was a miracle that nobody was killed; but when
    they began to speak to one another, SUPRISE of all suprises! they could not
    understand each other. They all spoke different languages. They all fought
    amongst themselves and each went about their own way. To this day the
    Topologists remain the original Mathematicians.
    -- The Story of Babel

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