Posted by
timothy
on from the cd-r-handheld-ogg-player dept.
ThatKidYouDid writes "Wired.com is holding a vote for this years best
vaporware. My vote definitely goes to the oqo, although I'd still snag one if they ever materialized. What do others really wish could have happened by Xmas?"
I'm sure we're both going to be moderated as trolls or flamebaits or whatever for this, but it's true. Yet another year has gone by with no sign, not even an inkling, of a suitable Linux-based desktop operating system.
OS X, on the other hand, just keeps getting better, proving that user-friendly yet powerful UNIX is not only possible, but damn profitable.
QuarkXPress for Mac OS X
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phillymjs
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I actually submitted this one to Wired last week when they originally posted the request for submissions.
Those fuckwits at Quark have been pissing on their customers for years, and now they're making my life harder because I have to deal with supporting the Classic environment instead of being able to make a clean break to OS X.
I've heard that this way-overdue version of XPress has been the final straw for many of Quark's customers, and they're finally dropping XPress for Adobe InDesign. Quark's customer-hostility has done more to sell copies of InDesign than anything dreamed up by the folks in Marketing at Adobe.
~Philly
Son of Star Wars Missile Program
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happyhippy
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Itll disappear in a couple of years when the govt cant get any more PR out of it for TWAT
Never Winter Nights for linux ...
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phoxix
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Sorry mates
But my vote goes for NWN on linux.
They stated that they'd have linux support ASAP. But with the recent events I wonder if they even knew what they were talking about. My gut feeling is that they stated linux support just to generate PR.
I don't mean to sound ungrateful, nor do I want to sound 'mean' in anyway. But this has become one of those I'll believe it when I see it sort things
Sunny Dubey
the matrix reloaded?
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jefdiesel
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sure i know the vampire queen's pilot was smoked out after a big week in the sun, but this movie was due out a while ago.. wasn't it?
Re:MS .Net Server
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TeknoDragon
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RTFM
"As in previous years, software locked in the pre-release, beta-testing stage is considered vaporware, even if it's widely available. It hasn't shipped until it's shrink-wrapped."
How about....
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KAMiKAZOW
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Osama Bin Laden?
Re:Doom III
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TeknoDragon
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"If you've played the alpha and it rocks, and you're sure that it will rock when it comes out... how exactly is it vaporware?"..... again RTFM
"As in previous years, software locked in the pre-release, beta-testing stage is considered vaporware, even if it's widely available. It hasn't shipped until it's shrink-wrapped."
if it counts for.NET server... it counts for Doom III
and with the paragraph preceeding the one I quoted... sounds like Doom III should be in the top ten.
Re:A working Linux distro
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aussersterne
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I am about to speak for all those of us who use a multimedia Linux desktop now for years, complete with audio, 3D acceleration, DVD, streaming video, full MS Office interoperability and KDE ease-of-use that even our Windows-ing friends comment on with envy...
You're absolutely wrong about Linux. Maybe you're even simple.
I'm very tired of the so-and-so's on Slashdot who keep posting that Linux is unusable without even giving any major distribution a real try. Linux on the desktop rules, I wouldn't use anything else. No, it's not exactly like Windows. In fact, it's better-- faster workflow, more intuitive desktop, better icons and themes, nicer applications, the ability to run Windows applications (under VMWare or Win4Lin) more stably than under Windows... But of course there's no arguing that it's different.
Still, if you can't be bothered to figure out your way around the differences and appreciate the wealth of features and applications that are already there for Linux and that have been putting Windows to shame already for years, it isn't the fault of Linux or the Linux community, it's the fault of you and nobody else. Some have said they don't have the time to figure out the features of Linux. Fine, they don't get to use them. But that doesn't mean they aren't there or that they aren't as usable as those of Windows or Mac OS! Sit a Windows guy down in front of a Mac OS X machine and watch what happens: he's as confused as hell. But nobody is storming around claiming that OS X is bad for the desktop because such claims aren't fashionable.
Justification: I am writing this right now from a multimedia tablet PC running Red Hat Linux and KDE3 with Light.v3 style and the iKons theme. Yes, the touchscreen works wonderfully! Yes, I have handwriting recognition via xscribble! Yes, I'm using all external USB peripherals, including a DVD player which is right now playing "Lola Rennt"! Yes, onboard audio and onboard 3D acceleration work properly! Yes, it makes my friends green with envy!
-- STOP . AMERICA . NOW
My vote: non zealous Linux users.
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Anonymous Coward
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That is all.
Bitboys Glaze 3D
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SparkyTWP
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Remember this thing?
They were supposed to release this over 2 to 3 years ago.
We keep hearing about technologies for making low-cost, large flat panel displays. But either they don't work, or they don't stay cheap if made large.
There's been talk for years about "printing transistors", "organic light emitting diodes", "E-Ink", and similar concepts. So far, none of these technologies have progressed beyond the prototype or tiny screen level.
Since the market for this technology would be huge (all TV sets, for starters) if it worked and was cheaper than CRTs, it's the premiere vaporware technology. Nothing else actually promoted as Real Soon Now has similar volume potential.
Vaporware-like
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Devil's+BSD
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The all-time best vaporware, IMHO, is fusion power. In 1950, the experts were saying that we would have self-sustained, controlled fusion reactions on Earth within 50 years. 50 years later, the new deadline is 2050. Curious, isn't it?
-- I'm the Devil the Windows users warned you about.
DOOM isn't locked in a "pre-release, beta-testing state", it's currently under development and has not been pre-released for testing and is not in some kind of limbo state of Q/A. The leak was just that, a leak from a hardware vendor.
By your expert interpretation of "the manual", every piece of software in development is therefore vaporware until it's shrinked wrapped. That wouldn't be a very useful definition if it makes the word all-inclusive.
In fact, the DOOM III poster that's up here on my wall has a 2003 release date in big bold letters right at the bottom.
Perhaps you should tell me to RTFM next, if it actually misses a release date.
ICQ and AIM meld (aka unified messaging format)
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Gudlyf
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How long has it been sice AOL bought out ICQ, yet we still have both ICQ #'s and AOL login names, and still a seperate messenger for each? How long will it be before these two finally become one, never mind having a single, unified messaging format that we can all use without having to either install one special client to handle all the different servers (i.e., Everybuddy, Trillian, etc.), or run seperate clients for each? ANd I'm not talking about something like Jabber.
I suppose the work went into TFC for Half-Life, but still, they wanted to call it TF2.
Doubtful. TFC was initially created as a proof of concept for the Half-Life mod SDK. It was also a pretty close translation of the original TF for Quake (they screwed up a bunch of stuff, like letting the HWGuy walk while shooting, and totally f'ing over canalzon with the should've-been-aborted map cz2). TFC shared almost nothing in common with the ideas that were tossed around for TF2 (two-man gunner teams on fixed-position turrets, requiring a gunner and an ammo-feeder; medics with absolutely no offensive capabilities; a WW2-ish setting, etc).
I met with the oqo guys at the last Pocket PC Summit (in Hollywood at the end of October). They let me play with their device and it was pretty neat. After some small talk, they let on that the reason we haven't seen these in the consumer market yet is because that isn't their business plan. Their business plan is to get bought up by some large company (Microsoft and Intel were mentioned as potential canditates) and retire. Unfortunately, they forgot to check first on whether or not corresponded with the strategy of any potential buyer. So sadly it appears that while these devices are *real*, we won't be seeing them on store shelves.
Just because Sprint calls it 3G...
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wilson_c
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...doesn't mean it is.
The reason your Sprint "3G" phone can't handle 3G features like video is that it isn't 3G. Sprint is using interim technology that the rest of the world refers to a "2.5G" - it offers some of the features of 3G while still building on a second generation base. Since 3G has been hyped so much, Sprint just decided to piggyback their inferior technology by calling it 3G.
Re:Portable Vorbis Players
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Alan
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Ok, how about one that's affordable to a normal human and not the cost of a decent PC MB and CPU:)
Re:The .Net "Revolution"
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Iamthefallen
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Interesting? hardly, it is however getting a wee bit annoying that people are seen as insightful just cause they whine about.Net. If you don't like.Net on techincal merit, fine. If you don't like it cause MS made it, fine. But quit whining about it just because you don't understand it and you're too lazy to pick up some books.
.Net has been compared to most modern languages/runtimes/architectures/strategies in a ".Net is just xxx with yyy!" way, sorry, it is nothing like those. Yes it is similar to J2EE, not Java, J2EE, but not many other things, so please stop the comparisons if you don't know what you're talking about.
99% of their architecture isn't ready, pray tell what that refers to?
-- Wax-Museum Fire Results In Hundreds Of New Danny DeVito Statues
Re:MS .Net Server
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vbweenie
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That would be Mono that I'm currently using on my Linux desktop to learn C# with, right?
Hard to think of that many other vaporware projects that can actually compile themselves. Although I suppose if there were nothing but vapor to compile, a vapor compiler would do just as well as a real one...
-- Experience is a hard school, but fools will learn no other.
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The QT based compile of GUII Lyx?
Sex - Find It
I second this nomination.
I'm sure we're both going to be moderated as trolls or flamebaits or whatever for this, but it's true. Yet another year has gone by with no sign, not even an inkling, of a suitable Linux-based desktop operating system.
OS X, on the other hand, just keeps getting better, proving that user-friendly yet powerful UNIX is not only possible, but damn profitable.
I write in my journal
I actually submitted this one to Wired last week when they originally posted the request for submissions.
Those fuckwits at Quark have been pissing on their customers for years, and now they're making my life harder because I have to deal with supporting the Classic environment instead of being able to make a clean break to OS X.
I've heard that this way-overdue version of XPress has been the final straw for many of Quark's customers, and they're finally dropping XPress for Adobe InDesign. Quark's customer-hostility has done more to sell copies of InDesign than anything dreamed up by the folks in Marketing at Adobe.
~Philly
Itll disappear in a couple of years when the govt cant get any more PR out of it for TWAT
But my vote goes for NWN on linux.
They stated that they'd have linux support ASAP. But with the recent events I wonder if they even knew what they were talking about. My gut feeling is that they stated linux support just to generate PR.
I don't mean to sound ungrateful, nor do I want to sound 'mean' in anyway. But this has become one of those I'll believe it when I see it sort things
Sunny Dubey
sure i know the vampire queen's pilot was smoked out after a big week in the sun, but this movie was due out a while ago..
wasn't it?
I hate spyware and spies
RTFM
"As in previous years, software locked in the pre-release, beta-testing stage is considered vaporware, even if it's widely available. It hasn't shipped until it's shrink-wrapped."
Osama Bin Laden?
"If you've played the alpha and it rocks, and you're sure that it will rock when it comes out... how exactly is it vaporware?" ..... again RTFM
.NET server... it counts for Doom III
"As in previous years, software locked in the pre-release, beta-testing stage is considered vaporware, even if it's widely available. It hasn't shipped until it's shrink-wrapped."
if it counts for
and with the paragraph preceeding the one I quoted... sounds like Doom III should be in the top ten.
I am about to speak for all those of us who use a multimedia Linux desktop now for years, complete with audio, 3D acceleration, DVD, streaming video, full MS Office interoperability and KDE ease-of-use that even our Windows-ing friends comment on with envy...
You're absolutely wrong about Linux. Maybe you're even simple.
I'm very tired of the so-and-so's on Slashdot who keep posting that Linux is unusable without even giving any major distribution a real try. Linux on the desktop rules, I wouldn't use anything else. No, it's not exactly like Windows. In fact, it's better-- faster workflow, more intuitive desktop, better icons and themes, nicer applications, the ability to run Windows applications (under VMWare or Win4Lin) more stably than under Windows... But of course there's no arguing that it's different.
Still, if you can't be bothered to figure out your way around the differences and appreciate the wealth of features and applications that are already there for Linux and that have been putting Windows to shame already for years, it isn't the fault of Linux or the Linux community, it's the fault of you and nobody else. Some have said they don't have the time to figure out the features of Linux. Fine, they don't get to use them. But that doesn't mean they aren't there or that they aren't as usable as those of Windows or Mac OS! Sit a Windows guy down in front of a Mac OS X machine and watch what happens: he's as confused as hell. But nobody is storming around claiming that OS X is bad for the desktop because such claims aren't fashionable.
Justification: I am writing this right now from a multimedia tablet PC running Red Hat Linux and KDE3 with Light.v3 style and the iKons theme. Yes, the touchscreen works wonderfully! Yes, I have handwriting recognition via xscribble! Yes, I'm using all external USB peripherals, including a DVD player which is right now playing "Lola Rennt"! Yes, onboard audio and onboard 3D acceleration work properly! Yes, it makes my friends green with envy!
STOP . AMERICA . NOW
That is all.
Remember this thing? They were supposed to release this over 2 to 3 years ago.
Since the market for this technology would be huge (all TV sets, for starters) if it worked and was cheaper than CRTs, it's the premiere vaporware technology. Nothing else actually promoted as Real Soon Now has similar volume potential.
The all-time best vaporware, IMHO, is fusion power. In 1950, the experts were saying that we would have self-sustained, controlled fusion reactions on Earth within 50 years. 50 years later, the new deadline is 2050. Curious, isn't it?
I'm the Devil the Windows users warned you about.
Perhaps you should pay more attention then.
DOOM isn't locked in a "pre-release, beta-testing state", it's currently under development and has not been pre-released for testing and is not in some kind of limbo state of Q/A. The leak was just that, a leak from a hardware vendor.
By your expert interpretation of "the manual", every piece of software in development is therefore vaporware until it's shrinked wrapped. That wouldn't be a very useful definition if it makes the word all-inclusive.
In fact, the DOOM III poster that's up here on my wall has a 2003 release date in big bold letters right at the bottom.
Perhaps you should tell me to RTFM next, if it actually misses a release date.
How long has it been sice AOL bought out ICQ, yet we still have both ICQ #'s and AOL login names, and still a seperate messenger for each? How long will it be before these two finally become one, never mind having a single, unified messaging format that we can all use without having to either install one special client to handle all the different servers (i.e., Everybuddy, Trillian, etc.), or run seperate clients for each? ANd I'm not talking about something like Jabber.
Trolls lurk everywhere. Mod them down.
Doubtful. TFC was initially created as a proof of concept for the Half-Life mod SDK. It was also a pretty close translation of the original TF for Quake (they screwed up a bunch of stuff, like letting the HWGuy walk while shooting, and totally f'ing over canalzon with the should've-been-aborted map cz2). TFC shared almost nothing in common with the ideas that were tossed around for TF2 (two-man gunner teams on fixed-position turrets, requiring a gunner and an ammo-feeder; medics with absolutely no offensive capabilities; a WW2-ish setting, etc).
I met with the oqo guys at the last Pocket PC Summit (in Hollywood at the end of October). They let me play with their device and it was pretty neat. After some small talk, they let on that the reason we haven't seen these in the consumer market yet is because that isn't their business plan. Their business plan is to get bought up by some large company (Microsoft and Intel were mentioned as potential canditates) and retire. Unfortunately, they forgot to check first on whether or not corresponded with the strategy of any potential buyer. So sadly it appears that while these devices are *real*, we won't be seeing them on store shelves.
...doesn't mean it is.
The reason your Sprint "3G" phone can't handle 3G features like video is that it isn't 3G. Sprint is using interim technology that the rest of the world refers to a "2.5G" - it offers some of the features of 3G while still building on a second generation base. Since 3G has been hyped so much, Sprint just decided to piggyback their inferior technology by calling it 3G.
Ok, how about one that's affordable to a normal human and not the cost of a decent PC MB and CPU :)
Interesting? hardly, it is however getting a wee bit annoying that people are seen as insightful just cause they whine about .Net. .Net on techincal merit, fine. If you don't like it cause MS made it, fine. But quit whining about it just because you don't understand it and you're too lazy to pick up some books.
If you don't like
.Net has been compared to most modern languages/runtimes/architectures/strategies in a ".Net is just xxx with yyy!" way, sorry, it is nothing like those.
Yes it is similar to J2EE, not Java, J2EE, but not many other things, so please stop the comparisons if you don't know what you're talking about.
99% of their architecture isn't ready, pray tell what that refers to?
Wax-Museum Fire Results In Hundreds Of New Danny DeVito Statues
That would be Mono that I'm currently using on my Linux desktop to learn C# with, right?
Hard to think of that many other vaporware projects that can actually compile themselves. Although I suppose if there were nothing but vapor to compile, a vapor compiler would do just as well as a real one...
Experience is a hard school, but fools will learn no other.