Friendly Plastic Pop Can Nearly Ready for Market
drfishy writes "BevNET has the story of Toledo, OH based Owens-Illinois and their new pop can. The can is made of a "fancy" new clear plastic with a traditional aluminum top and should be in stores sometime this year. Consumers are supposed to like it because of the "cool" factor, manufacturers will like it because they can use the same equipment to fill and package them, beverage companies like it because consumers and manufacturers will, and advertising agencies love it because they can get rich making all new commercials to convince people it really is cool. Seriously though, I like the idea, enough to submit a story about it anyway..."
What the hell is pop? I think you mean soda, or maybe coke, but certainly not pop.
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Great! Another reason to add more and more garish artifical colors to my sugar water.
Gimme some more o' dat green "Romulan Ale"!
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They declared bankrupcy after a huge loss in a class-action asbestos lawsuit. Then they went on to simply not pay many small design firms they owed money to. Pretty much puta few of them out of business. It was right around Christmas time too.
Anyone think they'll pay these firms pay after plastic pop cans become all the rage? Yeah, me neither...
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This can may be new to the market, but it's not a new design. I held a prototype of this exact can (plastic body, aluminum top) while visiting a friend that worked at a 7UP plant back in the early 1980s, twenty years ago. The can was clear green plastic with the 7UP paint job. It was empty, but sealed.
how do you crush it on your forhead? A plasticy plunk is nowhere near as manishly satifying as the savory crash and pang of sweet, metallic destruction...
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So how do i recycle this can? Do i put it in the plastics or aluminium bin? By the way, where i live its not "coke" and not pop (doesn't matter if its sprite, dr pepper, or coca cola)
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How do the recycling folks like it? What's the number in the little triangle? I suppose they'll have to separate the top from the body to recycle it at all. Gotta love that!
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Right now aluminum cans are recycled by many people because they bring a decent price and there are many places they can be sold. But plastic? As far as I know, there's no money to be made by an individual in recycling plastic and if there is, I doubt it's as much as aluminum.
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I was drinking out of these cans years ago (like 5 years). Yes, they looked somewhat "cool" becuase of the clear body, but they seemed to have disappeared. Was it becuase the contents tasted like crap? Packaging by itself isn't enough to make a successful product.
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Before the soda connoisseurs get on here and try to tell us they're not gonna like these because the soda from the metal cans tastes better than the soda from the plastic bottles, keep in mind the aluminum cans' interiors are coated with some sort of plastic material.
Otherwise the carbonic acid would react with the aluminum, and leave you with a nasty taste (I believe due to Aluminum Oxide? but its been a while since high school Chemistry).
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This isn't news for nerds, it is news for marketing geeks. And those two groups are certaintly not the same!
Really though, this is nothing new. It is just using old technology to try to make people buy more of something that everyone needs less of (put your own link to children becoming fat on soda/pop/cola/coke here please).
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this?
I remember these transparent plastic cans with standard aluminium top at least ten years ago, selling here in the UK.
AFAICR, the drink itself was foul.
At least I hope Slashdot collected some money for the headline. If not, they're bigger suckers than those of us who read the article.
DDB (who sees no need to migrate from the all-plastic 20-oz form factor)
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Does this mean this can will keep my drink cool at all times?
Or am I just expecting too much?
Well, technically you can separate the aluminum from the plastic, but no consumer is going to take the time to do that - most people are still too lazy to take the screw caps off their plastic pop bottles before throwing them in the bin - and there is no way that it will be financially feasible for recycling companies to separate the aluminum from plastic themselves.
Personally, this idea pisses me off enough to keep me from purchasing ever again from companies that bottle their beverages in these cans.
Does anybody else remember the old New York Seltzer plastic can just like this from the 80's? I remember everyone boycotting them because of the recycling issues. They stopped making them pretty quickly.
I have to disagree, the topic is, as they say, on.
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Anyone else think of Star Trek IV when they read the article?
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In Japan, you can buy bottles made completely out of aluminum. It's an aluminum can narrowing into a neck at the top with a traditional metal twist-off cap, and it's got a sticker around it which looks much like the decoration on a standard Coke can.
Now I can find the one with the finger in it without having to open them all!
If the stupidity or laziness of a few makes the efforts of everyone else useless (they still have to pass them under a magnet), then the industrious and smart people should rebel and pretend they're stupid to send a message that thier time and efforts are being wasted.
However, the magnet that processes steel might be part of a system that can't handle aluminum and vice versa, so the magnet simply causes a small percentage of material to be rejected. In this sense, the stupid people generate rejected material, but the efforts of the smart people are not wasted. It would be interesting if someone who knew explained how the recycling system works.
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here's the prior-art non-patent application:
Method for making recycleable transparent beverage containers
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I remember in health food shops here in the UK there used to be a soft drink (flavoured water) in a can exactly as described.
It was called 'Glacier' or something similiar, maybe glacial.
Very refreshing fwiw as well, and this was at least 10 years ago.
Nothing new here, move along.
I'm wondering how these "new" pop cans will compare to the old ones (if the "new" ones even succeed) in terms of keeping my Coke colder, longer. AFAIK, plastic is a better insulator than metal, but there are exceptions. Nevertheless, will it keep my cold drink cold (at least longer than in the old Aluminum cans)?
Caffine comes from coffee. Coffee does not come in cans. Or at least, good coffee does not.
Unless they can convince the folks at Guinness to bottle me Draught in the techno can so I can see the nitro widget kick off, I really could give a rats ass less.
in vain to reduce the dangerous aura of aluminium beverage cans by
adding saftey tabs, wider mouth ports, and even larger sized cans.
Now with the technological advent of non-lethal weaponry, can makers
have taken inspiration in the design of so called 'plastic bullets', hence the
new handsome containers and confident consumers.
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...Coke and Pepsi sale drop drasticly as consumers finally see what kinds of crap they've been drinking all these years!
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A clear plastic 'can' and that's it? We've had these for several years in the UK - it was indeed just a 'cool' market attempt. They also had small carefully-density-controlled jelly balls floating throughout the drink. Seems to have pretty much died by now.
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In Mighigan 10 years or so ago they still had reusable half liter bottles of pop (as they called it there). Excellent. I think these are gone now, though.
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"Soft drink" -- a holdover from Prohibition times that's still used today. I've lived in the South, and I don't think I've ever heard "fountain drink" used except maybe to specifically refer to whether or not a drink comes from a can or a fountain. "Soft drink" is definitely more popular where I've lived, with "Coke" being the most often.
(However, even living in Georgia, I've never actually heard anyone call any non-cola drink a "Coke." Ever.)
If it's for-profit but free, you're not the customer -- you're the product (e.g., the Slashdot Beta's "audience").
But I wonder how dirty they get? Plastic seems to attract dirt worse than aluminum.
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