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Tallest Roller Coaster in the World

Coaster Art Guy writes "Cedar Point amusement park unveiled the tallest roller coaster in the world today. Top Thrill Dragster launches you from 0 to 120 MPH in 4 seconds via a hydraulic launch. The dragster looking like cars take you straight up a 420 foot tower, into a top hat element, and twists you 270 degrees straight down. All in about 20 seconds from start to finish. How about that one? Also check out the POV video here Quicktime or here Windows Media Player."

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  1. First Post by gulfan · · Score: 3, Funny

    And it's already down, I guess there right about that 20 second from the start to the end :)

  2. Yuck, Flash. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Re:Yuck, Flash. by yobbo · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ya, thanks for the non flash page, now how about the server?

  3. Pretty short... by sean23007 · · Score: 5, Funny

    20 seconds is pretty short. The only thing I can hope is that the extreme rating this thing would get in Roller Coaster Tycoon would keep the crowds away so that the lines never get too long. I could spend an hour going up and down that thing! Unfortunately, if they change the name to something such that "extreme" contains a capital "X" in the form of "eXtreme" or "Xtreme," everyone and their mom will want to ride it. After all, it's Xtreme!!!

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    1. Re:Pretty short... by wideBlueSkies · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah great. So If I want to give myself my first heart attack on a schedule, I know where to go.

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    2. Re:Pretty short... by SoCalChris · · Score: 3, Informative

      Unfortunately, if they change the name to something such that "extreme" contains a capital "X" in the form of "eXtreme" or "Xtreme," everyone and their mom will want to ride it. After all, it's Xtreme!!!

      Yeah, the prototype for this ride is at Knott's Berry Farm, and is named of all things, Xcelerator.

  4. And the server goes by MrScience · · Score: 4, Funny

    from 120mph to 0mph as soon as Slashdot hears about it.

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  5. Multimedia links on /. front page by Znonymous+Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'll bet there servers are going for a roller coaster ride right about now.

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  6. So Happy by OldMiner · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes, it's exciting, but something about this guy's expression on the diary page makes me think he's got more than a coaster blueprint hiding behind that paper.

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    1. Re:So Happy by MrScience · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, he is talking about his "steel erection." (no kidding, read the link)

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    2. Re:So Happy by Rew190 · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's an older picture of Monty Jasper, basically The Man when it comes to building CP coasters. He did Millenium, Wicked Twister, and now Dragster. Very cool guy, I've talked with him a few times.

  7. Re:I see whjy by moertle · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... because if it was any longer you would piss your pants ...

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  8. In case /. effect does not wane: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Taken directly from http://www.cedarpoint.com/public/inside_park/rides /thrill/_ttd/specs/diary/index.cfm

    Date: January 09, 2003
    Entry: Catching Up
    By: Monty Jasper
    Vice President of Maintenance and Construction

    You have no idea what a relief it is to finally be able to talk about Top Thrill Dragster. It's the most exciting project I've ever worked on, and keeping it a secret for more than a year has been tough! So far, we've met our milestones, but there are still some big ones up ahead. Overall, I'm pleased with how well things have gone.

    I'm sure you've been keeping track (no pun intended) of the ride through the webcams. As you can see, about 90 per cent of the ride is up, and we're well on schedule for the steel erection portion of the work. Our biggest challenge on Top Thrill Dragster was to put up the steel as soon as possible so winter didn't delay the project. We really needed to beat the clock on this one, and despite the winds in November and December, and the recent snow, we're doing okay on the track work. The crew did a great job under some major adverse conditions.

    A few sections of track and support columns still need to be put in place once all the heavy equipment is removed from the infield. We're keeping one of the cranes for a little bit longer to install the elevator that'll go to the top of the tower, put catwalks in place, to allow us to torque the bolts on the track and inspect it all.

    The foundation for the station is done. The station has an incredible clamshell design, and I predict it will be magnificent.

    Work on one of the electrical rooms is 40 per cent complete, and the hydraulic room is about half-finished. The electrical work overall is about 20 per cent complete, and the electrical component of the project is extremely important. Top Thrill Dragster will require a lot of power, because it's taking roller coasters to a whole new level of energy and speed.

    Because we'll be dealing with heat and speeds no one has ever contended with before, we're going to need a lot of time to deal with these issues, and Top Thrill Dragster will undergo extensive testing. I'm shooting to have it fired up so we'll have everything resolved in plenty of time for Opening Day, May 4. Testing will include a partial pull-through, and sending a train with a clearance template attached.

    That's it for now. I'm looking forward to riding it, how about you?

  9. Towers over their next highest coaster by immanis · · Score: 5, Informative

    Cedar Point's Millenium Force coaster is 310 feet high.

    The current highest out and back coaster, according to Guinness, is the Steel Dragon in Japan.

  10. Hey girls (and guys), read to not bleed. by $$$$$exyGal · · Score: 5, Informative
    When you are going to ride in a super-fast and bone-jarring rollercoaster, make sure you take out your earrings. One time I didn't, and it was bloody. Since my head got banged from side to side so much, my earrings banged my head over and over again. After the ride was over I had two earring size holes underneath my earlobes. It bled, and it hurt. I'm all better now ;-).

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    1. Re:Hey girls (and guys), read to not bleed. by dr_dank · · Score: 5, Funny

      To add to the above poster, those of you with the "Prince Albert" piercing style may do well to go on the teacups instead. :)

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  11. More info, press release, pictures by Krellan · · Score: 4, Informative

    In case Cedar Point's servers are going for a ride, here is more information:

    Stats
    http://www.rcdb.com/installationdetail1896.htm


    Press Release
    http://www.rcdb.com/document82.htm


    Pictures
    http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery1896.htm


    Now, go slashdot rcdb instead. :)

  12. Another name ... by LoudMusic · · Score: 3, Funny

    They could just as easily call it the "Barf-O-Matic" ...

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  13. And that's fun? by unfortunateson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ok, 20 seconds to ride,
    60 seconds to load and unload
    7014 seconds in line...

    Not for me.
    Give me an entertaining ride that lasts a couple minutes at least. Millenium Force was down when we were there, but they've got some great rides.

    Mantis -- Woot!

    Just avoid the indoor dark bobsled-style coaster on days when it's 90 degrees out -- the AC in the building can't keep up.

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    1. Re:And that's fun? by jdkane · · Score: 3, Informative

      Short rides aren't necessarily bad. For example, the Drop Zone (see third row of pictures) at Paramount Canada's Wonderland is very short but very exciting. In fact Theme Park Critic gives it a high rating of 8.1 out of 10. The ride doesn't do much ... just pulls you up and then drops you. Simple, short, yet elegant enough to be one of the more popular rides for thrill seekers.

    2. Re:And that's fun? by Rew190 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Having worked at Cedar Point as an area supervisor, it surprises me that you're disappointed with the long waits that'll probably go with this ride but bring up Mantis.

      Mantis was actually one of the longest waits. Since it's a stand up coaster and the restraints are such a pain in the ass, we can typically only run two trains at a time on that track.

      Dragster has 6 trains (and yes, they will all be up and going), and as you mentioned the ride time is short. I'm sure we're going to see some huge lines, but they will move quickly. Keep this in mind before you pass it up. I'm very excited about this one.

  14. Re:I see whjy by EggplantMan · · Score: 5, Informative

    Probably because at 120 MPH you need to add 176 feet to the rollercoaster for every imperial second you want to add to the ride.

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  15. why? revenue, of course by djupedal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The more bodies they can run thru the gate, the more income they can grab to help pay for the next model. Just like turning over tables at a restaurant, fares in a taxi or Johns on the street.

    Want a longer ride? Buy another ticket...it's all about money, after all.

    1. Re:why? revenue, of course by SplendidIsolatn · · Score: 5, Informative

      Cedar Point is a one admission fee-for-everything in the park (ridewise) It doesn't matter if the cycle 100 or 10000 people through an hour.

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    2. Re:why? revenue, of course by Proc6 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      You think more space, bigger rides, with more breakdowns, don't cost more money? Or how about longer rides, taking longer, creating longer lines, and more people leaving the park with memories of 2 hour waits, instead of 30 minute waits.

      I'd guess it's an attempt to find the shortest possible thrill that still leaves people feeling they had a good time, while taking as little space as possible, and moving people through it as quickly as possible.

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  16. Re:Just what we need ;-) by ZxCv · · Score: 5, Funny

    Screw what people like or don't like...pass the bong!

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  17. Re:Cedar Point rocks by bleckywelcky · · Score: 5, Insightful


    Truly an awesome coaster park, one of the best, if not the best, coaster park in the country.

    Correction: the best coaster park in the world.

  18. Cerebral Hemorrhages by (eternal_software) · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There have been a lot of reports of people getting neurological injuries on coasters already.

    I wonder how much more they can push these things before the human limits are reached (at least the human limits the insurance companies will allow!).

    1. Re:Cerebral Hemorrhages by or_smth · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You bring up an interesting point. As one could expect, an injury/death in a theme park is the absolute worst thing for business possible. While a lot of people think theme parks are safe, and they are (to an extent), there is a lot more going on then they might not know about. I'm pretty sure every park basically wants a NDA from anyone who got hurt on a ride.

      So, we are reduced to the employees (myself included, I work at a Canadian theme park) and rebellious victims to give us any information. Try this site if you want to see more or don't believe me.

      Just something to watch out for.

    2. Re:Cerebral Hemorrhages by ayjay29 · · Score: 4, Funny

      >>As one could expect, an injury/death in a theme park is the absolute worst thing for business possible.

      I heard that the reverse is true. Sounds morbid but after there's a death on a ride, everyone wants to go on it. I remember as a kid at a park friends were saying "Someone died on this last year, it must be good!".

      A friend of mine worked at a sky-diving school and whenever there was a fatal accident in the press the courses would be fully booked for weeks.

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  19. Re:I see why by WolfgangFlur · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well, I just can't agree with that.
    After all, Canadians use the metric system! ;)

  20. Re:Oops... by Znonymous+Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    At 120 MPH you pee'd the guys pants behind you too.

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  21. Longer ride != faster lines by JackL · · Score: 5, Informative

    The millenium force gets 1600 riders/hr. This one is predicted to get 1500. Usually the turnover is dictated by the size of a train and how fast you can load/unload them. There will be a train going up the hill, one on the track and one in the house loading/unloading. When they are going 70-120 mph, you'd need an awfully long track to change this model. Since this coaster is so fast, there will only be one train going up the hill or on the track. All the others will be loading/unloading and keep the line moving that way.

    I think the reason it is short is twofold. 1) Cedar Point is on an peninsula and space is getting scarce. 2) No one really cares what comes after the first hill.

    I don't believe it is as simple as some of the "screw the customer and move 'em along" remarks would lead you to believe

  22. Re:First puke by AntiNorm · · Score: 3, Funny

    520 feet??? Bleah! First puke!

    Being a skydiver, 520 feet is way too low an altitude for me to be freefalling from. Higher please!

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  23. 20 seconds? by core+plexus · · Score: 3, Funny
    That's all? I can think of dozens of things that are way scarier, and last much longer. Try ice climbing, rapelling, free-fall parachuting, open-ocean diving, (and diving under the ice), camping beside a salmon stream in bear country, etc. etc.

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  24. Re:Down in record time. by MissMyNewton · · Score: 5, Funny
    "All in about 20 seconds from start to finish"

    What, the Slashdot effect?

    No, the average Slashdot reader having sex...

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  25. This is actually something I'm familiar with. by Xnone · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Cedar Point is certainally a great park. They care for their employees, and run a great place. I have had much experience with many people involved with the park over the years, living just a stones throw away. I did some computer work in the past for the head mainframe analyst there a while back. I saw some pictures from their data rooms back in the mainframe days, as well as some more current ones. It certainally is an impressive sight, especially being an amusement park. The park is built in fact on a peninsula, not an island, so they have more room then you would think to expand, as well as hotels, and marinas which can be used for future expansion. They outdid themselves with the Millennium Force in my opinion. There is nothing like watching your favorite lady (or man) in the seat next to you as you scream down a 310 foot drop in the front seat. I can only hope this coming attraction will hold a candle to its predecessors. Cedar Point has several methods these days to cut down on the time to wait in line, such as hand stamps, and such, for those early to arrive. Hopefully this will cut down on the anticipation time, and increase the ride time on this. Anyway, this introduction is certainally thilling, and I can only hope my ride this coming May will live up to the immense hype.

  26. Re:The lines shouldn't be long. by nuintari · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You've obviously never been to Cedar Point then, if the line moves fast, more people will get into it, Vacuums tend to be filled, especially at Cedar point when they whip out yet another new ride. Fortunately, this will keep people out of the lines for the Millenium Force and Raptor. :-D

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  27. Re:I see whjy by srmalloy · · Score: 5, Informative
    but I don't see why they are so short i mean sure its faster but why not make the damn thing longer??

    Because this type of coaster is still in its infancy. This is clearly an evolution of the Thrust Air 2000 coaster invented by S&S Sports Power, and it follows the same basic design -- a catapult launch, a 90 pitchup, a 180 pitchover to nose down, and back to the launch point, throwing in a 360 roll during the descent to heighten the thrill.

    The selling points of this type of ride are the catapult launch -- instead of the long, slow crank up the lift hill, you're shot off the mark, reaching maximum speed almost immediately -- the vertical climb and dive, and the 'hang time' spent in free fall. You come out of the dive at close to the 120mph at which you entered the climb; at that speed, any of the fancy track elements you see on slower coasters would create unacceptably huge G forces on the riders -- if you look at the other 'gigacoasters', they have one or more secondary hills after the first drop to bleed some of the speed off the coaster train before they start any serious turns, and these coasters use speed and drop height as their selling points, not inversions, while the coasters that are known for their inversion count are all much slower than the gigacoasters. Top Thrill makes its mark from its height; adding more hills detracts from the purity of the single vertical hill (and the attraction of rides like SFMM's 'Superman: The Escape', which is nothing but a shot out, up, down, and back), and slowing the coaster train down enough so that inverting track elements are survivable detracts from the ride's speed. And, as another poster has pointed out, Cedar Point is running out of space to put new coasters.
  28. 270 degrees ? by terrymr · · Score: 3, Informative

    So if I'm going straight up and then getting twisted through 270 degrees how the hell am I coming straight down again ? I think you mean 180 degrees.

    1. Re:270 degrees ? by LordKronos · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes and no. What happens is that while you are going up you do a 90 degree rotational twist about a vertical axis. Then you go over a 180 hill (so you go from facing up to facing down). On the way down you do a 270 degree rotational twist about the vertical axis again.

  29. Re:Cedar Point rocks by meringuoid · · Score: 3, Informative
    Truly an awesome coaster park, one of the best, if not the best, coaster park in the country.

    Correction: the best coaster park in the world.

    For sheer density of coasters per unit area, Blackpool has to be tough to beat...

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  30. Re:park unveiled the tallest roller by Maeryk · · Score: 3, Informative

    You're friend's a moron, then. This was being constructed before the park closed, and the area was fenced off for the entire summer. And there's no such thing as "Steel Force".

    SOrry.. they had the area fenced, but the big hill wasnt up yet. I double checked with him this morning.

    And yes, by the way, there IS something called "Steel Force".. its here in Eastern PA, (as I said) at Dorney Park, which is also owned by Cedar Fair. Steel Force is the second tallest in operation, (In the US, or in the Eastern US.. it keeps going back and forth) apparently, with Millenium Force its big brother.

    http://www.dorneypark.com/rides/thrill/steelforc e. cfm

    Who is the moron?

    Maeryk

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