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For Those Long Coding Sessions: The Food Patch
rtphokie writes "The U.S. Army has created a Transdermal Nutrient Delivery System which works similarly to to nicotine or birth control patches but delivers vitamins and other micronutrients. It was developed to help "warfighters sustain their physical and mental performance" during high intensity conflict. Is this what ./'ers need during those long coding sessions."
It might be good for slashdotters too. :-)
I'd really like tandoori chicken with mint sauce, please. Oh yeah, my arm has no taste buds. Dang.
I just want a caffeine patch. - Well, maybe a junk food patch. I can see this.
"It is a greater offense to steal men's labor, than their clothes"
Clinical studies show that, while only about 20% (less now, I'm thinking) of Americans are addicted to cigarettes, 100% are addicted to food.
Hopefully, this patch will help people with a food abuse problem to combat it and overcome it. In moderation, food is a good and healthy thing, but as with so many things, there is such a thing as too much.
I wonder how long it's going to take them to come up with the Sleep patch? Now that's an addiction I'd like to kick...
Don't you wish your girlfriend was a geek like me?
Not sure if it would be a wise idea to slashdot a military server these days. You might be considered a terrorist.
Is this what ./'ers need during those long coding sessions.
This may have been said jokingly, but it definately isn't what we need. Not only do TNDS' not give you a delicious taste in your mouth, they don't tell your body that you are full either. If we want fatter geeks, this is the way to go. Otherwise, I'll just stick to my perishable food.
Future warfighters may spend substantial amounts of time encapsulated in protective garments ...with limited access to normal meals.
Foolish Army...Everyone knows the answer to this is alien-tech suits filled with multi-purpose gelatin.
"Inattention makes clowns of us all" -Bean
Going to the refridgerator for food was my only excersize! Just encourage me to be lazier and get fatter! Thanks alot!
X(7): A program for managing terminal windows. See also screen(1).
That's all we need now to have neverending LAN games...
"This processor might activate a microelectrical mechanical system that transmits the micronutrients -- either through skin pores or pumped directly into blood capillaries."
I am warfighter of Borg.
You will be assimilated.
Resistance is futile.
Why should I apply patches to myself? There's no Windows inside... Oh wait...
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Error 500: Internal sig error
Anyway, it's nice to see this kind of technology being developed out of the military budget instead of another variation on the bullet, bomb, etc. It has a lot of potential and I imagine it's not long before we see folks using pharmecutical patches soon - probably tailored for their specific needs/doses.
It would be pretty nice if I could take ALL of my daily meds via a single patch rather than gulp down 10+ "easy-to-swallow if you're a horse" caplets.
Good show, GI Joe.
I know I'm not the only one who still buys them...
I think the Borg icon (currently used for Microsoft stuff) is more appropriate for this particular article.
--naked
Very popular slashdot journal for adul
but it's a well-known fact that anyone who reads /. is too busy refreshing to do any coding ;)
"I would say that 99 per cent of what my father has written about his own life is false." - L. Ron Hubbard Jr.
Forget food. I want one that pumps BEER straight into my veins!
I'm sorry, but when I'm wading through breakpoints, I want something cruncy. When I'm hacking out a killer regular expression, something sweet. While I'm sure the patch is nice and chewy, there's nothing like an ice cold Jolt Cola at about 1a.m. when you've finally inherited and overloaded your native hash object to recursively enumerate its own members.
Point is, some of the fun of eating while coding isn't just the stinking vitamins, more full tummy for that matter. So while I see it as an effective way to feed someone who'd rather starve than gag on MRE's in the middle of a minefield, I'll stick to my pretzels and mint-conditioned coffe thank you very much.
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I definitely wouldn't want to be a soldier once they figure these things out. After all, if the soldiers could get nutrition from a patch, why feed them at all? Or at least that's what their thinking will be.
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the implications of this to long endurance sports, such as 24 hr LeMans car racing, ironman triathlon, long range cycling, and so on.
I think currently athletes drink some sort of soups or something to get their calories... just a semi wild guess.
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"Is this what ./'ers need during those long coding sessions."
Is that anything like the much needed Sex Patch?
Uh, erm, not that I need it. =)
Well it seems you're in need of one to prevent you making mistakes through hunger! It's /.ers not ./ers. The site's called slashdot - not dotslash!
Video Game cheats, hints a
The boss figures that if we can get access to the low-sleep research as well, I'll be better than a robot.
OS Software is like love: The best way to make it grow is to give it away.
Big news in Canada is the two US pilots who killed the canadian soldiers were hopped up on crank.
Government issued crank which they couldnt refuse to take.
There was an article in a British paper before this accident which explained how the pilots were doped when they went up, doped when they came down and the doped so they could go to sleep, so its not like this was a big secret.
Coming from the taliban-like leader on the War on Drugs, this was just too freakin ironic.
Of course, Zoloft, Xanthax, Prozac, Lithium and other popular happy pills which are regularly consumed by a third of americans are considered to be a normal way of life in the Excited States, while lighting a doob will get you an invitation to be Bubba's prison bitch.
I always said to maximize a programmer's efficiency would require a full-time attending nurse, to administer IV drips that insure adequate levels of hydration, nutrients, stimulants, etc, as well as urinary catheterization. Haven't figured out how to handle the need to take a dump, although I figure that would be gradually minimized by 100% IV feeding.
and then the Government would know the chemical make-up of our blood at all times!
One might have hoped that tragic events in Afghanistan would have taught the US military that drugging your troops is a bad idea.
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They need sex patch.
You can't handle the truth.
Military stimulants.. just what /. coders need to crash into Canadian networks.
Escher was the first MC and Giger invented the HR department.
If the following is any indication of their level of technical experience that I think I will pick some place else.
From their site:
"Our servers at dual 64-bit 1266 Mhz. Pentium III machines. With 6 Gigabytes of RAM and hardware level RAID 10 UltraWide SCSI A/V Hard Drives. These boxes dual 64-bit PCI buses, with ALL 64-bit peripherals. Additionally dual power supplies and network cards round this package out."
Yes, carbohydrates, protein, and fatty acids are macronutrients, that is, nutrients your body needs in fairly large amounts (protein 30g/day, carbohydrates 250g/day, fatty acids 100g/day or thereabouts). These patches only contain micronutrients, that is, nutrients we only need in sub gram amounts (e.g., vitamin C 65mg/day - 500mg/day depending on which authotity you believe, and what stresses you're under).
So I really don't see how these patches could be a complete solution, although they might be useful for replacing lost electrolytes like potassium, sodium, calcium, and magnesium. When you're engaged in physical exertion for long periods of time though, you really need macronutrients. This is why marathon runners and triathletes drink sports beverages and/or eat power bars. In addition to the electrolyes in, lets say gatorade, you also get a load of sugar (carbohydrates) for energy. These patches would only help with half the problem, and the smaller half at that.
Maybe they just expect that with the right micronutrient balance and some hormones the field soldiers will burn their own body fat for energy. Then when they do get some down time, they eat a meal rich in protein (for muscle/tissue repair), carbohydrate (to replace muscle and liver glycogen stores), and fatty acids (to replenish body fat stores, for repair and growth of nerves/neurons, and for various hormone precursors, etc.)
*mumbles* /.'d yet .mil site, should be able to handle the effect..
/. 1 .mil 0
Cant be
*mumbles*
*shakes monitor*
Come on ya bitch, serve the page, serve the page!
*frowns*
too late!
Does any body else find that healthy food is counter productive when it comes to your programming?
A couple years ago we opened an office that is 3 blocks from my home so now instead of grabbing some fatty restaurant food I go home and eat real food.
I find that most home made foods (e.g. Fettuccini Alfredo made with pasta, cream, garlic, parmessean etc and not just from an instant package) tend to slow me down in the afternoon. My body seems to take longer to digest the real food. OTOH junk food seems to be converted to energy in only a few minutes.
What we geeks need is for those long coding sessions is: better chairs, better screens, workplace ergonomy in general, decent food, short breaks a couple times an hour and a short walk around the block or something now and then aswell as 8 hours of sleep. We do not need anything to keep us glued to our monitors.
I know it's incredibly cool to keep up the pizza/coffee/dew image, I like all three of them too, but considering how bad a lof of geeks handle their eating and sleeping, combined with a bad workplace and little excercise... they're a burnedout zombie with bad back and wrist problems waiting to happen.
Contrary to popular geek belief, our bodies are not made for such abuse, and no, you are not different, you too need nutrition and sleep.
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I have pizza rolls, I take them orally. They work quite well.
My Karma was at 49, then they switched to words. All that work for nothing!
Imagine you'll get pretty hungry, though.
GI Joe: Trade you my patch for your peanut butter and crackers.
GI Ethnic: [bitch slaps GI Joe]
The soldier of the furture come equipped with everything he needs to operate in a hostile environment.
The nutrient patch Eating means downtime, and downtime means certain death (we tell them that so we can save on the scrambled egg MREs)
The NRG patch To keep the soldier of the future alert and in the business of acting as the freeworld's finest killing machine, we have the NRG patch, a potent time release combination of caffine, cocaine, methamphetimine(sp?), and some of the best drugs every developed for narcolepsy. (If they run for 24 hours straight we can get three times the use out of them)
The Mind patchEverything you need to keep moral high and your soldiers too, eliminate battle fatigue, reduce stress, and give them the ability to see the colors of the world with our unique combination of nicotein, lsd, pcp, thc and various other combinations of letters. ( They'll be so addicticed they will battle to get their fix)
Recreation patch This patch features a combination of drugs recovered from Roswell, Viagra and birthcontrol to take the male and female integrated army to the next stage, no more ping pong or other games of skill. It's the oldest form of recreation known to man, all induced at appropriate times by appropriate couples with the use of this patch.(If they screw like bunnies they might just forget we sent them to hell)
Better living through chemistry, it's not just a motto, it's a way of life!
Not until it also releases Dr. Pepper into the bloodstream.
C'mon!
This is army food that even the Atkins diet could love!
What gives?
-Jordan
Great, now I can finally do away with that glucose/ephedrine IV!
"FDA staff reviewers expressed concern about the number of patients who were left out of the study because they died."
"Is this what ./'ers need during those long coding sessions[?]"
:-P
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Going long-term without eating cannot happen... big problems if you don't feed the gut.
Critically ill hospitalized patients with long-term abdominal pathology that prevent them from eating (severe Pancreatitis, shotgun wound to the abdomen, Gastric Outlet Obstruction from cancer, Crohns Disease, etc) are at high risk for all kinds of problems. It can even happen with anorexics. They often end up on TPN (total parenteral nutrition)... AKA Intravenous feedings. Long term TPN puts you at risk for some nasty complications (see below), even aside from the risk of TPN itself (you have to have the electrolytes, osmolality, etc just right).
The current theory is that the intestinal wall needs to be "fed" by absorbing food. Like many things in the body, the gut needs exercise. If it doesn't get it, you get atrophy of the viscera, and bacterial translocation across the gut wall. This results in severe gram-negative sepsis from enteric organisms (think about intravenously injecting feces... it's about the same effect). Overwhelming gram-negative sepsis has a tremendous mortality rate... most don't survive.
Even without the above complication of not eating, the amount of material (think in terms of simple mass of nutrients) you could get from a transdermal patch is miniscule. There is no way you could absorb enough nutrients to stay alive. Even TPN requires that huge volumes be infused, since it can only be concentrated so much. Some components are not even water soluble (lipids), and have to be given as a suspension. Even worse, TPN has to be given through a central IV line (subclavian, jugular, femoral, PICC), since peripheral veins quickly become unusable from the irritation and osmotic load.
Honestly, I can't see this satisfying anyone's caloric needs.
I suspect this will be used primarily to deliver drugs... something we already do.
Even if a man chops off your hand with a sword, you still have two nice, sharp bones to stick in his eyes.
I don't need a sticky wafer feeding me fancy "nutraceuticals". That's why they make vending machines, I imagine the pork rinds are chock full of them (not that I could ever bring myself to eat them, mind you. I'm in for the sweet rolls).
No, what I need is a patch to feed me lots of "nutrazzzzzicals", giving me a full nights sleep while I do whatever. If that means lucid dreams overlaying normal vision, fine (I'll just be really careful who or what I look at), just give me real sleep I don't have to catch up on later.
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I'm still waiting for someone to come up with a workable exo-skeleton for ground troops. Given all the crap infantry soldiers have to cart into the field these days, some way of augmenting their load capability would go a long way to extending operational range.
The human body cannot process macronutrients in this manner.
Now, if you've got a store, a pump, and a catheter to feed directly into the vascular system, you can pump some sort of saline-sugar solution, the way you feed patients who can't eat.
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There aint no pancake so thin it doesn't have two sides.
.. how about your poor stomach, being slowly but steadily digested by its own hydrochloric acid and peptides?
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So when will my job start requiring this new technology so i can work without a lunch break.
If you want a meal replacement, gulp down a can of Boost. You can get a generic 6 pack for about 7 bucks here in Canada. They have 353 Cal, 17.6g Protein, 44g Carbs, an assload of vitamins, etc. Which seems to be better than those patches. You can drink one in a matter of seconds (that way you don't taste it), and you're good for a couple hours, I'd say. I'm a geek, and I never eat chocolate, drink caffeinated beverages or all that junk, and I still am able to code for long stretches, and, I can also still play my favorite sports. Nutrition is a good thing for your future. These drinks are equivalent to the price of a bottle of Jolt, and they do liven you up, too. Just an alternative view of this hold geekdom thing... Although this reply might be a bit late... Meh...
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the surface area of the small intestine is several hundred square meters, and it is particularly adept at absorbing the nutrients you need. The cells that line your intestinal villi and microvilli include several specific cellular pumps on their membranes, specifically so you can move particular compounds.
Your skin, aside from being a much smaller surface area, has none of these absorptive properties.
Some drugs that are effective in micro-gram quantities (like fentanyl) can be delivered trans-dermal, but nutrients cannot be delivered in a similar fashion, or at least not in any real quantity. Think about your larger-molecular-weight nutrients... no way those are going through the skin.
Even if a man chops off your hand with a sword, you still have two nice, sharp bones to stick in his eyes.
Could someone please explain to me the benefit of delivering the food as a skin patch instead of as little food pills or something. For insulin and nicotine, I can understand the need for a controlled continuous release, but why the need for such precision with food?
Warfighters! Another doubleplusgood word served up to us by our superduperleader and his department of the Fatherland, er, Homeland Defense!
C'mon! Be Bush's bitch! Throw out that old, not-government-approved terminology like 'soldier' and sign up for your New and Improved English class today!
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Not necessarily. When the army ships things in bulk, they really do mean bulk. At the strategic/logistical level, targetting nutrient patches would present the same difficulties as targetting MREs. At the tactical level, each soldier could carry a week's worth of the suckers without even noticing--kinda hard to create a shortage when each enemy troop has a surplus in their pockets...
Any sufficiently well-organized community is indistinguishable from Government.
..."works similarly to to nicotine or birth control patches"...
Oh yeah, there's a warehouse mixup waiting to happen.
-- Terry
Why do people assume that coding needs a lot
of food? I mean mental labor definitely requires
a normal diet, but it is not mountain climbing
or pentathlon... Even the hardest mental
activity cannot compare to moderate physical
activity in terms of calorie consumption.
Even for the longest coding session a 10 minute
break to eat something healthier is OK, I suppose.
For those who worry about micronutrients, a
nice fresh fruit (orange/apple) is a good idea
and you can eat it while coding.
Hydration and electrolyte balance is propably
more important, especially in conjuction with
fluid loss from caffeine consumption (diuretic).
P.
Of course, Zoloft, Xanthax, Prozac, Lithium and other popular happy pills which are regularly consumed by a third of americans are considered to be a normal way of life
What you say is more true than you know. When I started taking Prozac, my life turned around. My life became normal again. So yes, a lot of people probably shouldn't be taking the drugs they do. But a lot of other people should. Please don't associate scientifically tested and proven useful medical drugs with common street drugs. Anybody who scoffs at the use of medications such as SSRIs and thinks of them as nothing more than "happy pills" probably hasn't been or known someone in their life who has suffered from and been diagnosed with major depression.
Before you jump on the what-about...-train, I'll admit that drugs like marijuana do have ligitimate medical uses. However, recent research has isolated the elements of the plant that work for pain relief from the other elements, such as those that cause the "high" that can permanently damage the brain's pleasure receptors after frequent use. If that first element can be administered seperately in a refined form, say in a pill, shot or nasal spray, it can be safely taken. Heck, even a patch (strangely, sounds almost on-topic). That is the difference between street drugs and prescription drugs.
Now if advocates put half the energy into fighting the medical industry as they did getting their pet stoner-drug legalized, these prescriptions would be cheap enough for anyone (who needs them) to afford. But prescription drugs make a nice scapegoat (mischaracterise, scream "me too!") for anyone who is cranky that they can't get their daily high.
Remember "Bring 'em on"? *sigh
Your imagination is behind reality.
At least the DARPA is doing research
on that issue.
Here's a recent german article.
We in the navy always said the cannonfodder shit their pants.
FRA: STFU GTFO
What happens when we run out of skin surface to place all these patches?
then we ram them down our throat and place them on the inside of our stomacs.
FRA: STFU GTFO
FOLKS!
This patch is nothing but a fancy vitamin pill. It won't "feed" you any more than a vitamin pill would. RTFA!
The only advantage this patch has is that it lasts many days - the idea being to prevent soldiers from coming down with beri-beri, scurvy, and other diseases due to lack of vitamins (which MREs are not exactly high in). If you can issue a soldier a patch every week,
a) You can quickly determine if the soldier is using it - "INSPECTION - Pruuu-zent PATCH!" This is harder to do with a pill.
b) You only need worry about it once a week - for guys on long range patrol this simplifies life. In combat, simple is good.
For geeks driving a keyboard, just take your multivitamin every (virtual) morning, along with your coffee, and you will get the same effect.
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Food Patch? How about a Laid Patch?
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US Pilots bombing Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan because they're a bit warped out on speed in Go pills, soldiers on the ground surviving assault rifle hits with armoured vests, nutrient patches to be able to stay fit longer in battle, remotely controled drone bombers. All very in the realm of Lucius Shepard's Green Eyes I think it was, written in the Contra years in the 80's.
Why is it that I think that things like this will not make better soldiers, but merely soldiers that are more and more dependant on technology to fight?
I am a US Army vet, but my only exposure to field food was MREs, I never got to see the next generation MREs used now or the older C-rations. When I was in the service the MREs came in diverse enough configurations that there was something for everyone, plus of course the little black market we had running using the M&Ms as a bargain tool.
:-)
Still, MREs had a small problem, it took time to eat them. The MRE not only gave us a certain caloric load per bag, but it also kept us busy for up to 30 minutes (some of us looked forward to getting MREs instead of a chow truck because you would be literally guaranteed 30 minutes of peace from the cadre as long as you looked busy tearing open packets of food). If you are really in a hurry and you don't eat your MREs whole then over time in a long deployment you could start suffering vitamin deficiencies, which is where a patch like that would rock.
Of course, we know the first three patches that are going to be issued will be:
1. Caffeine
2. Tylenol/Motrin
3. Go pills
The concept sounds great, but it is just too obvious that they are looking for a clean way to deliver chemicals without needles or pills (plus the patch allows a time release).
If any of you has never tasted an MRE and has a chance to, go ahead and try it. I have always been picky about food but I never thought I would be so damn well pleased with cold food (the warming jackets were not widely distributed to non-deployed units). Chicken-a-la-King, Beef Stew and "Ham and Omelette" where the best
Pedro
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The Insomniac Coder
How about one that acts as an external kidney, filtering and accumulating wastes, releasing them through an external one-way valve?
I think waste elimination would be as important, perhaps more so, since the natural way would involve removing far more protective gear, than feeding or imbibing the conventional way.
Those limeys probably got their information about air force phamacueticals from this article written by Marc Bowden The Atlantic Monthly.
The fact that fighter pilots take "go" pills and "stop" pills so they can withstand 9-hour sorties is common knowledge.
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Take of hoser!
Eh?
If Netcraft is not decieved, that would be the way to "fix" it. Netscape on NT, I'm amazed that it has not blue screened yet and is so responsive. If it was IIE, it would be all over by now for the second or third time. Thanks for the insight.
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For those that joke about this patch, I'll bet many of the same jokes were had about canned food in 1812 too. "Who would eat food that had been bottled up for a year? How unwholsome!" Well, look at you now. Does your town have a market where farmers bring their food for you to purchase or do you eat beans from a can? In 100 years or so, people will wonder aloud about why their grandparents troubled themselves with cooking food. They will point to their care free, perfectly ballanced nutition and contrast it to a former world population that was either obese or malnurished. Something will be lost, something will be gained, the methods will be improved.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
He said ./'ers, don't panic.
Keep your packets off my GNU/Girlfriend!
You want stimulation on this job? Chew on a stick of gum, clean up that filthy keyboard, and get back to work! Any more complaining and you are fired. - from the hell job.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
"I'm sorry ma'am, but it really isn't our fault that due to a mixup at our warehouse you got fat and pregnant... by the way, I notice that you are smoking. Would you like to quit? There's a patch for that, too. Just guess which of these three it is..."
Lack of eloquence does not denote lack of intelligence, though they often coincide.
While this is a great idea in some respects, it still fails in others. Part of what makes me "perform less than optimally" when I'm hungry is that my stomach is making all kinds of nasty noises & having nasty feelings. It is rather distracting. Regardless of what I put on my arm, without something in my stomach, it won't stop.
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Drink down four or five egg yolks for a similar effect.
Most depression is caused by cholesterol deficiency. Cholesterol is actually so important to our body's health your body punishes you with depression as a result. Our brains, btw, are about 25% cholesterol on average. Cholesterol as you may know is a lipoprotein. That is its a protein with the hydrophobic properties of fat, perfect for the acquious solution of our brain. Our brains could never grow to the size they are without cholesterol.
Anyway, egg yolks are rich in cholesterol. Drink them down and you will feel tired and happy in a few minutes. Take it before bed time and you will have the a similar effect.
One of the reason low density lipoproteins are common today is because most cholesterol has been oxidized by heat. So its important to eat only RAW egg yolks. LDL's have no functional purpose in our bodies and do not stimulate seratonin.
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Honestly, I can't see this satisfying anyone's caloric needs.
Sigh... this patch isn't trying to deliver calories. It's trying to deliver micronutrients - vitamins and minerals. Just RTFA.
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That's where the testosterone patch was supposed to be applied, but I never had one, and probably wouldn't go there, unless I really needed it. I guess I thought it was a funny picture, solders shaving their testicles before a mission to apply 'food patches'. Actually, it's still funny to me. I mean I did some weird things when I was in the Army, but that wasn't one of them.
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I know MRE's and even old rations are held in high regard in some places, but when I trained with the Brits and French, they had hot and cold running water in their tanks for tea (Brits) and wine in their rations (French). However, I have eaten some local fare that I would gladly go back to MRE's, or even dogs; for example rancid soups, fermented fish heads, and the stomach contents of an ungulate.
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Hey, just imagine being able to game for 86 hours straight. It sure would have helped this guy.
Perhaps you should study some physiology before you criticize.
The article talks about nutraceuticals (who knows what they are talking about? Sounds suspiciously like non-specific marketing speak to me) and vitamins/nutrients.
How exactly do you think they are going to deliver water-soluble vitamins through the skin? The keratinized squamous epithelium is quite water resistant. How about fat-soluble vitamins? Do you think simple diffusion is going to bring in enough to satisfy someone's RDA?
The skin is not porous enough, and is not designed for absorption... in fact, the exact opposite is true. Unless a soldier in the field suddenly develops a B-12 deficiency (something that takes years), putting a patch on his arm is not going to boost his performance one iota.
The point I was making is this: with the exception of some drugs that are effective in very small quantities (Clonidine, Nicotine, Fentanyl) you cannot deliver sufficient material this way. Giving someone some kind of "nutraceutical" is not going to change the fact that their blood sugar is low from not eating.
I hope that clarifies it for you.
Even if a man chops off your hand with a sword, you still have two nice, sharp bones to stick in his eyes.
I also wonder why (you would think it would be a nice logical progression) there haven't turned up any common (or new) illegal drug patches (ie, a cocaine, amphetimine, or THC patch - or an LSD patch)? Heck, why not any common drug patches (pain relief patch - not heat, but real pain blocking chems, or cold relief - though these probably don't matter because taking pills in our society is seen as "normal" - so why not illegal drugs in pill form - sort like LSD sugar cubes)?
Every since transdermal nicotine patches came out, I have kept thinking that some illegal drug entreprenour would come out with such a patch - but nothing, so far. So why not? Does something in the makeup of the patch prevent it (ie, chemical incompatibilities or something similar)? I doubt it is fear of patent infringements...
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