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XBox Chip With Legal BIOS

Lours writes "OzXChip, an Australian company, has a new Xbox chip which comes preinstalled with the new (Cromwell Linux BIOS. Previous chips came without (or simplistic) BIOS for obvious legal and hardware-related (HD-key) reasons you had to go through a lot of manipulations in order to install a patched version of the original Microsoft BIOS or ask the vendor to do it which obviously he was not willing to do for free (when he was willing to). Since the new Cromwell BIOS is fully open source it can be shipped with the chip without any legal risks, gaining you a lot of time, sweat and money. Plus the chip has a very useful feature: by using software based on Andy Green's -- one of the maintainers of the XBox Linux project -- Raincoat, it lets you flash a new BIOS very easily: burn the BIOS file onto a blank CD, put it in the Xbox, boot and you are done. With such beasts there is not much left in the way of want-to-be Linux Xbox hackers who might have been affraid until now to have to deal with delicate hardware intricacies or reluctant to run the whole town for a vendor willing to mod their Xbox at the smallest fee. With important linux distributions also incoming (Debian and Mandrake are underway if not completed) it won't be long before everyone can write code for (and on!) the machine only a few minutes after receiving the chip in his mailbox. Hopefully we are going to see a zillion things running on the machine that Microsoft would only have dreamt of making (and selling)." Update: 01/23 16:07 GMT by T : The company's name is actually OzXChip, rather than OzChip (as originally rendered); thanks to reader Michael Muir for pointing this out.

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  1. yes but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    will it still play games? and be easy to go back to the original bios?

    1. Re:yes but by op00to · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's a fraction of the machine my laptop is.
      I'm assuming your laptop has a kickass 3d card, a dvd drive, component out, kickass controllers (laptop keyboards BLOW for gaming), and almost no OS overhead. Don't fall into the (pretty closedminded) belief that the XBox is just another shitty msft project. The Xbox is as much a regular computer as the new BMW 7 series, which is built with similar off-the-shelf parts and a MSFT OS.

  2. Build it, the (apps) will come? by Linux+Freak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > Hopefully we are going to see a zillion things running on the machine that Microsoft would only have dreamt of making (and selling)."

    I hope so too, but I thought the same thing when I picked up my Sony PS2 Linux kit. Not too many useful projects have come out of THAT yet. (All I really wanted was the ability to play mpeg video on my TV at a decent speed...but SDL hasn't been optimized yet, so that's not yet possible.)

    1. Re:Build it, the (apps) will come? by b0r1s · · Score: 5, Insightful
      There's no good reason why a majority of the people would want this. There is a small minority who will do it just to show that it can be done, the rest either:

      1. Will buy an X-Box to play games and DVDs ONLY
      2. Will not buy an X-Box, but instead will buy a dedicated machine to do whatever you might want to hack into a linux-running X-Box


      Why? Because as a computing platform, the X-Box isn't that impressive, especially for $200. The graphics are nice, indeed, but you can buy a P4 tower from Dell for $400 these days, or a Tivo/PVR for a few hundred, a DVD player for $99, you'd have to be really dedicated to mod a perfectly good X-Box (which voids the warranty).

      Yea, it's a nice hack for those who really want to see linux running on everything. For everyone else, another dedicated box is a better option.
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    2. Re:Build it, the (apps) will come? by Delgul · · Score: 4, Informative

      FYI, I already play accelerated video on my xbox using Debian and it runs just fine!!

      The first projects that are implementing a jukebox/settopbox especially for the xbox have already started...

    3. Re:Build it, the (apps) will come? by warmcat · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not MP3.

      Proprietary WMA.

      And no way to get your existing MP3s into the box, or the ripped WMAs out of it. MS don't want you to do that, so you can't. No way to play video media other than DVD either.

      Only if you get either a hacked native BIOS, so you can run unsigned native apps, or you run Linux through cromwell or a hacked native BIOS, can you actually do what you want with the box you paid for.

      There are some amazing unsigned native apps out there, like XBMP, but they are made with warez-ed MS tools. All respect to them for the quality of the results, but it sits badly with me that they are made with MS libraries, spreading MS proprietary APIs, and prepping the programmers really only for continuing the dominance of MS OSes. I hope as Linux on the Xbox gets more mature they'll consider moving over.

  3. Re:Good for MS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    everyone will still buy the bad ass xbox games.

    Haven't most xbox owners already got both of those?

  4. Just in time!!! by PasteEater · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sweet! And the "Matrix" chip that I ordered last week should be here tomarrow.

    In other news, I buy all of my Apple hardware the day before a Macworld Expo.

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  5. Most chips COME with programmers now by raam · · Score: 5, Informative


    If you really want to get caught up in this addictive and fun hacking, check these sites for answers to all questions:

    www.xboxhacker.net

    www.xbox-scene.com

    #xbins on IRC

    By the way...the number of hacked xboxes surely runs into the thousands, if not more, and there are already enough robust applications to make it a full-fledged media device.

  6. What's with the parentheses? by AlphaHelix · · Score: 5, Funny

    What is this guy, a Lisp programmer?

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  7. X-Box Killer apps by Jason1729 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    2 of the best Killer apps for the X-Box I've heard of are the DivX player and the PVR. This chip will go a long way towards making it quick and easy to set those up.

    It's too bad MS doesn't jump on the bandwagon. If they produced PVR software and sold it for the price of a normal game, I'd happily buy an X-Box and that software. I'd also pay at least $20 for DivX player software for it.

    Jason
    ProfQuotes

    1. Re:X-Box Killer apps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      2 of the best Killer apps for the X-Box I've heard of are the DivX player and the PVR.

      Yeah! And that killer app Mediaplayer is a MPLAYER + some other open source projects rip off! Read more about on MPlayer's HQ site. There's talk about it somewhere on the frontpage. Xbox mediaplayer people shamelessly denied using open source code and DID NOT GIVE ANY CREDIT to whom it belongs. They were also violating GPL by not providing the source code.

  8. XBox Live by DJayC · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How does this change the problem with playing XBox Live with a modded XBox? I would like to mod my box to play around with a lot of the homebrew apps, but I really don't want to get my XBox's MAC address banned from XBox Live, as I really do like the service. This is assuming that Microsoft really does check for modded XBox hardware. Does this advancement help the situation?

  9. Let me get this straight.... by trotski · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So I buy an X-BOX, buy the chip, and then install a linux based bios.... on what amounts to a shitty celeron based machine? I don't know... seems kind of weird.

    I'd rather get a good machine, install linux... and NOT pay microsoft 300 bucks for sub-standard equipment.

    I'm gussing most people who do this sort of thing are the types who would love to see Microsoft fall... if that is the case, don't give them your money.... no matter how cool your modded X-BOX will be.

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    1. Re:Let me get this straight.... by FS1 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Actually microsoft loses money everytime someone purchases an xbox. So just buy the machine use it for a media box or whatever just don't buy any games, and microsoft will lose about $50 on you.

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    2. Re:Let me get this straight.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's not true. An XBox sold is better than an XBox shelved.

    3. Re:Let me get this straight.... by Longinus · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Just to clarify, the XBox only costs 200 dollars and comes with a Pentium III 733 MHz, not a Celeron. Any way you cut it, its a good price for the amount of hardware you're getting. Although it was more trouble for me than what this new BIOS will allow, I now use my XBox (with a 100GB harddrive) as a omni-emulator that allows me to play NES, SNES, Gensis, MAME, etc on my TV, as well as a media player so I can easily watch my DivX movies on my TV. In the future I plan on messing around with Linux and experimenting with PVR options (oh yeah, I own a couple XBox exclusive games, but that's really just a bonus to the real reasons I bought it). All in all, its been one of the best 200 bucks I've ever spent for the amount of stuff I can do with it.

  10. Re:XBox Live by Osty · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How does this change the problem with playing XBox Live with a modded XBox? I would like to mod my box to play around with a lot of the homebrew apps, but I really don't want to get my XBox's MAC address banned from XBox Live, as I really do like the service. This is assuming that Microsoft really does check for modded XBox hardware. Does this advancement help the situation?

    Easy solution: buy a second XBox. No, really. There are a number of used/refurb XBoxes around if you look. The infamous "Disk is Dirty or Damaged" error (DDoDE) made for a lot of replaced XBoxes. If you look around at your local used game shops, I'm sure they have a couple used for a good price (or refurbished for a bit more money). Play XBox Live on your current working XBox, waste your time hacking around with Linux on the refurb.

  11. Why this is interesting by warmcat · · Score: 5, Informative

    There are two big reasons why this is interesting.

    1) Because modchips can now ship with a fully legal clean BIOS, it is very hard for MS to suppress or chill their development any more. Cromwell, the Linux booting BIOS, is only capable to boot Linux, there can be no copyright-based complaints. Ozxchips have made a micro-distro (~2MB ISO) which boots and reflashes the BIOS. In the future, I expect mods with multiple BIOSes in one flash, with Cromwell used to manage and reflash the other parts, but being itself read-only/protected.

    2) Because Cromwell can boot off the Linux install CDs, perform the install and then subsequently boot direct into Linux, the increased availability of the BIOS suggests that more people will be encouraged to try Linux. And considering these are mainly kids who otherwise face a sterile, uncreative and useless relationship with games on the Xbox, that's a good thing. Again, in the future we can expect Cromwell to be a static feature of mods, the option to boot into Linux always being available.

    You've been able to run Linux on the Xbox for some time now, this doesn't really change that. What's different is that you can now run Linux without using any MS code in the BIOS, whereas before Linux required the use of a hacked native BIOS to get it started. So the big difference is that you can run Linux without any copyright infringement.

    That has ramifications for the MS trend to try to suppress modchips.

  12. Gains by 0x20 · · Score: 5, Funny

    gaining you a lot of time, sweat and money

    Well, one of those things I have plenty of, but I could always use more of the other two.

  13. ugh by gatesh8r · · Score: 4, Funny
    So someone went, did an Open-Source BIOS to replace the main functions of a gaming console expecting to make a General-Purpose PC all because it runs on the x86 arch with a modified GF3? Feh:


    "Yeah! Check this out! I'm uber-l33t because I hax0r3d my X-Box just like my Dreamcast -- Oh hold on a sec... *nervous laughter* uh, that wasn't Halo you saw; that was uh... ah... The Torque Engine! Yeah! I'm working on a FPS for my Linux-enhaned X-Box that I modded. Oh the Dreamcast? I ended up putting NetBSD on it, but it's been slashdotted ever since I put the URL in my sig."

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  14. So how is everyone going to react... by SensitiveMale · · Score: 4, Insightful

    when the next 'leaked' halloween memo states that the original Xbox strategy was

    (1) to test different types of security and see which ones were easily hacked

    (2) to test different types of licensing agreements for their real hardware push into the living rooms of America

    (3) to find a way to willing have people buy ms boxes to replace the failed WebTV fiasco

    (4) to use open source people to boost the sales of Xbox above Sony's PS2s.

  15. x-anything by ianmalcm · · Score: 5, Informative
    Yes the $100k prize was awarded, search for the /. story.

    You'll never play xbox live online with a modded box. Theyre attitude makes sense: a service population with 5% cheaters will make 60% of normal gamers shy away from playing. Many people stopped playing CS because cheating is so prevalent.

    As for killer apps, the XBMP - Xbox Media Player now in v2.2 is the ultimate app that is continually updated. DVD/mp3/ogg/m3u playlist/divx support, and the features keep getting better. Plus streaming support. right now, Xbox is the most cost effective media center available. Plus it has some great tech support in the dev scene. And Dreamix is a WIP PVR to complete the media center ideal

  16. What wrong with you? by jeanjean83 · · Score: 5, Funny

    What's the fun part in running anything on an x-box? Have you forgotten that it's made by microsoft? It's like saying that it's cool to run programs in windows, which it obviously isn't. Stop the madness!

    1. Re:What wrong with you? by terrencefw · · Score: 4, Insightful
      What's the fun part in running anything on an x-box? Have you forgotten that it's made by microsoft? It's like saying that it's cool to run programs in windows, which it obviously isn't. Stop the madness!

      Well, that's exactly the point: It's made by Microsoft. They can shut us out of their software with their "screw-yew" EULAs, but they've tried to shut us out of the hardware as well, and the xbox modders have proved that they can't do that, neither technologically or legally. Bet they've got their best monkeys scratching their heads to work out how to close their platform legally, but when it comes down to it, it's hardware, I've bought it, not licensed it and I can do what I damn well like with it. If I want to hack my fridge to run Linux, then I will. Same goes for the Xbox, and there's not a damn thing they can do about it.

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  17. Check the links by thedji · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In the article, there's a link to the pictures gallery.

    It has switch for "X-Box Live" compatibility ;)

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  18. Flashing BIOS Easy? MSFT must love this. by grimani · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Flashing a BIOS is *not* supposed to be an easy one step process, and there's a reason for it.

    I can just see it now:

    1) Linux hacker goes home with new hotly anticipated Starcraft: Ghost (published by Microsoft), which he stood in line for 10 hours to buy.

    2) Linux hacker pops new game into XBox.

    3) New UberSafeDisc protection on Starcraft: Ghost flashes replacement BIOS, replaces it with code for original XBox BIOS, then disables future flashing...

  19. Are they still at a loss? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The question that plagues my mind is whether or not the X-Box (the console itself that is) losses money for Microsoft. I heard, from several sources, that the company loses ~$100 on the hardware of the actual console. This of course makes a "1337" incentive for any Linux hacker to take down the man and get cheap hardware.

    But with the depreciation of hardware over time, does it still cost them? Thoughts appreciated. -MMT

  20. No good reason? by fredistheking · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Gee since It's half the price of the PC you are pricing, I WOULD consider that a great reason to buy an XBOX. Also, with the XBox media player you can watch SVCD/VCD/DIVX, etc. Try building a computer with TV out that will do that for any where near $200.

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  21. Re:Flashing BIOS Easy? MSFT must love this. by warmcat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is a good point.

    However, some information: on the Xbox, the motherboard flash containing the BIOS is not writeable by default. You have to take out the motherboard and short out a couple of links with solder before it can be written. So MS cannot trash or update the original BIOS.

    Most commercial modchips feature a write protect line which you physically have to switch to allow writes to the mod flash. Even those that don't are externally reprogrammable from a PC printer port. So this is no kind of crisis.

    What is more possible to imagine in the future though are new games linked with a new version of the MS libraries which seek out and shit on assets on the HDD that MS don't approve of.

  22. What is the goal? by zebtron · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I am waiting for a "real" X-Box.

    I would be very happy if I could get an X-box to be a 'good file player' that could play DVD, VCD, and everything else I play on my PC (QT, AVI, DIVX, VOB, blah blah... I admit, a big bag), and some basic network functionality without compromising the ability to play legal X-box games.

    Within the community, we seem to have several counter-productive lines of progression.

    There are the folks that want to play around with their X-box and add functionality (the most interesting and productive pursuit) and the people who want to buy a M$-subsidized device and use it for Linux-only purposes.

    Realistically, the latter are better served to craft their own boxes w/o M$ at all (we all know what has happenned w/ HW prices).

    Does it make any sense to buy an X-box and use it as a Linux box? It did months ago, but, with the way the market is progressing, you will gain far less in HW $ than you get is SW time...

    I am all for EXTENDING the abilities of the X-Box, but you get much beyond that and it ends up being a gesture motivated not my innovation, but by spite for M$.

    -Z
    M$ XP user (3 PCs) w/ a SUN Solaris, MacOS, and a lil TiVo on the SDA LAN.

  23. Re:The price of the Xbox will rise by nmg196 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    > The Xbox itself is sold at a loss

    No no no! Why do people always believe what they want to belive.

    This is an urban myth. MS does *not* lose money on the sale of an XBox. It has lost money *so far* when incorporating all the development costs, but it doesn't lose more money each time someone buys one - it makes a small amount of the already lost/spent money back. The cost of the box easily covers the production cost of the unit and also incorporates a small profit for both MS and the retailer/distributor. Admittedly it probably makes more money out of the games, but buying loads of XBoxen will not send MS off into Chapter 11.